Re: Bismuth source- please read

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Pepto has salicylates so anyone allergic or sensitive to aspirin and similar

should be cautious and let their Dr know. Esp. if taking other meds like blood

thinners or have stomach issues

and as for Bismuth...Ive heard mixed stuff...its mostly based upon the Ulcer

treatment against the Heliobacter bacteria..( combining pepto and abx) .so the

leap to anti-lyme may be a big one...again Im unsure

but FYI heed the following for this HEAVY metal

:http://www.lenntech.com/Periodic-chart-elements/Bi-en.htm#Health%20effects%20of\

%20bismuth?? and other sites confirm this info

Health effects of bismuth

Bismuth and its salts can cause kidney damage, although the degree of such

damage is usually mild. Large doses can be fatal. Industrially it is considered

one of the less toxic of the heavy metals. Serious and sometimes fatal poisoning

may occur from the injection of large doses into closed cavities and from

extensive application to burns (in form of soluble bismuth compounds).

It is stated that the administration of bismuth should be stopped when

gingivitis appears, for otherwise serious ulceration stomatitis is likely to

result. Other toxic results may develop, such as vague feeling of bodily

discomfort, presence of albumin or other protein substance in the urine,

diarrhea, skin reactions and sometimes serious exodermatitis.

Routes of entry: Inhalation, skin and ingestion.

Acute effects:

Inhalation: POISON. May be a nuisance dust causing respiratory irritation. May

cause foul breath, metallic taste and gingivitis. I

ngestion: POISON. May cause nausea, loss of appetite and weight, malaise,

albuminuria, diarrhea, skin reactions, stomatitis, headache, fever,

sleeplessness, depression, rheumatic pain and a black line may form on gums in

the mouth due to deposition of bismuth sulphide.

Skin: May cause irritation.

Eyes: May cause irritation.

Chronic effects:

Inhalation: May affect the function of the liver and the kidneys.

Ingestion: May affect the function of the liver and the kidneys. May cause

anemia, black line may form on gums and ulcerative stomatitis. Skin: May cause

dermatitis.

Eyes: No chronic health effects recorded.

Medical conditions generally aggravated by the exposure: Pre-existing skin and

respiratory disorders.

Bismuth is not considered a human carcinogen.

Environmental effects of Bismuth

Bismuth metal is not considered toxic and poses minimum threat to the

environment. Bismuth compounds generally have very low solubility but they

should be handled with care, as there is only limited information on their

effects and fate in the environment.?

so again...Id be VERY careful to check with Drs, ND's, etc and make sure you

wont be adding to your ails.and any change or unusual reaction...STOP

be well and careful

Finette

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[Guest guest]

Hi Finette,

I think it's wise to warn others of potential problems with bismuth,

and any other treatment. Thanks for sharing that info. I want to

clarify that I was not encouraging others to use Bismuth to treat

Lyme. I was merely sharing a good source, if they had already decided

that they wanted to try Bismuth. I am using Bismuth right now but not

for Lyme. My doctor prescribed it for digestive issues (which is what

Buhner suggested it for). Knowing it interacts with Borrelia is an

added plus for me. I am only using it shortterm though and am being

observant of any changes/symptoms that might reflect bismuth toxicity.

Thanks for the reminder that we need to research all the pros and cons

of a suggested treatment, no matter who is recommending it.

Best,

>

> and as for Bismuth...Ive heard mixed stuff...its mostly based upon

the Ulcer treatment against the Heliobacter bacteria..( combining

pepto and abx) .so the leap to anti-lyme may be a big one...again Im

unsure

> ...Id be VERY careful to check with Drs, ND's, etc and make sure you

wont be adding to your ails.and any change or unusual reaction...STOP

>

>

> be well and careful

> Finette