coffee enemas

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In a message dated 3/27/03 8:04:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,

dianatrudeau@... writes:

> Do you take the whole 2 quarts in one session??? Most people won't be able

> to handle that, certainly not at the start.

Yes, 2 quarts is not a lot at all. It is difficult at first, but after the

first two cleanses it was easy. The colon can hold over a gallon with no

problem. The main problem is retaining it, no matter how much fluid you use.

One of my books recommends using just one cup and holding it for 45 minutes

or so. So it is really up to the comfort level of the individual.

I too found that for the first two cleanses I used half of the solution then

reapplied for a second dose. Once the initial blockage was gone though, I

had no problem holding the entire two quarts.

Hanida

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Do you take the whole 2 quarts in one session??? Most people won't be able to

handle that, certainly not at the start. I find that two cups is plenty, and

even then, can be hard to hold for that long. If I can't hold it, I empty my

bowels, wait a bit, and then start again with another two cups of coffee. I can

usually hold that for the minimum 12 minutes, preferably 15, that is needed to

stimulate the liver.

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From: hspl28@...

candidiasis

Thank you!

Gently insert solution, and lie on your back massaging your stomach. Switch

to side and massage each side. (the more you massage, the more that comes

loose)

Attempt to retain for 15 minutes, if you can. IF not as long as you can hold

it.

Follow up with a clean warm water enema, or lemon juice enema, to get all the

coffee out if you want.

Just remember organic coffee only!

Good luck,

Hanida

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I was squeemish about the enema thing but yesterday I tried

a " cleansing enema " which I discovered in a book

called " Prescription for Nutritional Healing " . It recommended not

doing the coffee enema until after doing the cleansing version which

is 2 quarts of distilled water with the juice of 3 lemons. I did not

find it painful, just very odd feeling. I can't say I feel better

today, but I will say that it wasn't many, many trips to the

bathroom the rest of the day like I expected and I wasn't

uncomfortable or anything afterward either. And that's more that I

can say for the capsule forms of colon cleansing. I tried

taking the 4 capsules that was recommended on the particular brand I

tried and boy, when it hit, it hit and I was left feeling very

drained for hours afterward, sort of like when you have a stomach

bug. So overall, I would say the enema was the way to go.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the recipe, Hanida!!!

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April

a_m_anderson@...

>From: hspl28@...

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: Re: Re: Coffee Enemas

>Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:59:16 EST

>

>In a message dated 3/26/03 8:40:05 PM Central Standard Time,

>a_m_anderson@... writes:

>

> > Yes, if it's not too much trouble, I'd really appreciate the coffee

>enema

> > recipe.

>

>Thank you!

>Well, here is the recipe I followed.

>3 heaping TBS of organic coffee, ground

>2 quarts of water.

>Put the coffee in the water and bring to a gentle boil. (preferably in a

>metal/glass pot. Not non stick) boil gently uncovered for 3 minutes.

>cover

>and simmer for 17 minutes more.

>Allow to cool to body temperature, Strain.

>I did not strain it, but just skimmed the coffee off the top and left the

>grounds on the bottom. They will clog your enema line so you want as few

>as

>possible to get into your solution!

>Gently insert solution, and lie on your back massaging your stomach.

>Switch

>to side and massage each side. (the more you massage, the more that comes

>loose)

>Attempt to retain for 15 minutes, if you can. IF not as long as you can

>hold

>it.

>Follow up with a clean warm water enema, or lemon juice enema, to get all

>the

>coffee out if you want.

>Just remember organic coffee only!

>Good luck,

>Hanida

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sandy, that was a very interesting explanation

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From: " sanhal007 " <sandy.halliday@...>

Reply-bowel cleanse

bowel cleanse

Subject: Re: coffee enemas

Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:09:14 -0000

Dear Kata

I can't understand why the Hippocrates Institute teaches that coffee

enemas are not a good thing. They are a primary component of of the

Gerson Therapy for cancer and other degenerative diseases. In the

early days of developing his therapy Max Gerson found that his cancer

patients were dying from (hepatic) liver coma as the tumours began to

breakdown on his high fresh juicing detoxification regime. By

introducing the coffee enemas he found that they helped to detoxify

the liver and the patients survived.

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Coffee during the war???

Anja

> They were first used in Germany during the first world war by nurses

> for pain relief for their injured patients. The story goes that they

> were discovered by accident when analgesic drugs were running low and

> after surgical operations on injured soldiers water enemas were

> ordered by the surgeons. Surgeons who worked all hours were drinking

> coffee to stay awake. When no other liquid was available and in

> desperation a nurse grabbed some coffee.The soldiers reported that

> the coffee enemas helped to relieve their pain.

> 2 German researchers heard of this and examined the effects of

> caffeine given rectally to rats.they found that it stimulated their

> bile ducts.

> > Kata

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeanne,

I'm so glad to hear you are doing the coffee enemas. I think they

are such a big help.

Some of your symptoms are very " flu-like " which is candida being

killed off. A runny nose, sore throat, large bm and diarrhea are more

like getting rid of toxins. Both mean you have made a big gain.

Good for you.

How are you reacting to coconut oil? What are your symptoms?

What is a Z-pac?

I don't know whether you are moving gall stones, but the coffee

enemas are creating changes and spurring more healing. If it works

go for it.

I got very bad pains I thought was my liver, but I may be mistaken.

How do you know it is your gall bladder?

Bee

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Hey Bee

A Z-pack is a 3 dose antibiotic that is supposed to last for 10 days. It

replaces the 5 dose one. (like 5 doses wasn't quick enough). I haven't taken

any antibiotics for awhile but I think I usually have constipation or stomach

problems during or after the course. since the 10 day period would be up now

maybe that is aggravating it.

When I went in to the doctor for my sinus issue he also checked out my stomach

area and it was really sore and tender right by my waist line. I had been

having a lot of indigestion and belching. The pain was all on the right side

and covered my whole stomach area from waist to pubic area. This was prior to

me taking any antibiotics (but 3 weeks earlier I had been on a short course of

prednisone).

After doing the coffee enema that night I felt and heard something happening

down there and than I had these 2 quick painful contractions and than after that

day the pain and soreness was really reduced.

Right now I still feel it right by my waist and I have major gas, bloating, and

indigestion. Maybe it is the candida?

Usually candida affects everything else for me but I don't get a huge amount of

stomach distress like I have right now. I feel like I have to go to the

bathroom all the time and than when I do urinate it isn't much at times.

When I go back into the doctor October 1st he said he would look at it again. I

don't know if I can wait that long. I am planning on doing another enema tonite

and have been taking probiotics twice a day too.

As far as the coconut oil. When I took some last night (Tablespoon) after a

certain point I could feel a contraction in that area of my waist line.

I know people that have had gall bladder problems and they have had major pain

and couldn't tolerate greasy or fatty foods at all.

I don't know what it is but I do know something isn't right.

Any advice?

Jeanne

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Dear Jeanne,

I'm so glad to hear you are doing the coffee enemas. I think they

are such a big help.

Some of your symptoms are very " flu-like " which is candida being

killed off. A runny nose, sore throat, large bm and diarrhea are more

like getting rid of toxins. Both mean you have made a big gain.

Good for you.

How are you reacting to coconut oil? What are your symptoms?

What is a Z-pac?

I don't know whether you are moving gall stones, but the coffee

enemas are creating changes and spurring more healing. If it works

go for it.

I got very bad pains I thought was my liver, but I may be mistaken.

How do you know it is your gall bladder?

Bee

[Guest guest]

When I started adding more fat back to might diet I was extremely worrieds that

I would have a gall bladder problem and started having little problems. So I use

a product called Systemic Enzymes. I take 1/4 to 1/2 cup of coconut oil with

some kind of acid drink, pineapple juice, orange,etc blend it up with my hand

held blender(boat motor as Emeril Lagasse calls it) and about 20 capsules before

bed. No problem , the enzymes aid to the digestion . Also if I find my

gallbladder hot, I take a large medicimal dose and the gallbladder begins to

function well.

Hope this helps

C

Re: [ ] Re: coffee enemas

Hey Bee

A Z-pack is a 3 dose antibiotic that is supposed to last for 10 days. It

replaces the 5 dose one. (like 5 doses wasn't quick enough). I haven't taken

any antibiotics for awhile but I think I usually have constipation or stomach

problems during or after the course. since the 10 day period would be up now

maybe that is aggravating it.

When I went in to the doctor for my sinus issue he also checked out my stomach

area and it was really sore and tender right by my waist line. I had been

having a lot of indigestion and belching. The pain was all on the right side

and covered my whole stomach area from waist to pubic area. This was prior to

me taking any antibiotics (but 3 weeks earlier I had been on a short course of

prednisone).

After doing the coffee enema that night I felt and heard something happening

down there and than I had these 2 quick painful contractions and than after that

day the pain and soreness was really reduced.

Right now I still feel it right by my waist and I have major gas, bloating,

and indigestion. Maybe it is the candida?

Usually candida affects everything else for me but I don't get a huge amount

of stomach distress like I have right now. I feel like I have to go to the

bathroom all the time and than when I do urinate it isn't much at times.

When I go back into the doctor October 1st he said he would look at it again.

I don't know if I can wait that long. I am planning on doing another enema

tonite and have been taking probiotics twice a day too.

As far as the coconut oil. When I took some last night (Tablespoon) after a

certain point I could feel a contraction in that area of my waist line.

I know people that have had gall bladder problems and they have had major pain

and couldn't tolerate greasy or fatty foods at all.

I don't know what it is but I do know something isn't right.

Any advice?

Jeanne

-------------- Original message --------------

Dear Jeanne,

I'm so glad to hear you are doing the coffee enemas. I think they

are such a big help.

Some of your symptoms are very " flu-like " which is candida being

killed off. A runny nose, sore throat, large bm and diarrhea are more

like getting rid of toxins. Both mean you have made a big gain.

Good for you.

How are you reacting to coconut oil? What are your symptoms?

What is a Z-pac?

I don't know whether you are moving gall stones, but the coffee

enemas are creating changes and spurring more healing. If it works

go for it.

I got very bad pains I thought was my liver, but I may be mistaken.

How do you know it is your gall bladder?

Bee

[Guest guest]

when I was at my chiropractors today I had him feel around and where it really

was sore and tender was where he said my intestines were. He said this area is

you intestines and your appendix. Maybe I am wrong and it is candida kicking up

there.

Someone else suggested enzymes. I can't handle fruit of any kind. Can you take

the enzymes with water?

Jeanne

--------- Re: [ ] Re: coffee enemas

Hey Bee

A Z-pack is a 3 dose antibiotic that is supposed to last for 10 days. It

replaces the 5 dose one. (like 5 doses wasn't quick enough). I haven't taken any

antibiotics for awhile but I think I usually have constipation or stomach

problems during or after the course. since the 10 day period would be up now

maybe that is aggravating it.

When I went in to the doctor for my sinus issue he also checked out my stomach

area and it was really sore and tender right by my waist line. I had been having

a lot of indigestion and belching. The pain was all on the right side and

covered my whole stomach area from waist to pubic area. This was prior to me

taking any antibiotics (but 3 weeks earlier I had been on a short course of

prednisone).

After doing the coffee enema that night I felt and heard something happening

down there and than I had these 2 quick painful contractions and than after that

day the pain and soreness was really reduced.

Right now I still feel it right by my waist and I have major gas, bloating, and

indigestion. Maybe it is the candida?

Usually candida affects everything else for me but I don't get a huge amount of

stomach distress like I have right now. I feel like I have to go to the bathroom

all the time and than when I do urinate it isn't much at times.

When I go back into the doctor October 1st he said he would look at it again. I

don't know if I can wait that long. I am planning on doing another enema tonite

and have been taking probiotics twice a day too.

As far as the coconut oil. When I took some last night (Tablespoon) after a

certain point I could feel a contraction in that area of my waist line.

I know people that have had gall bladder problems and they have had major pain

and couldn't tolerate greasy or fatty foods at all.

I don't know what it is but I do know something isn't right.

Any advice?

Jeanne

-------------- Original message --------------

Dear Jeanne,

I'm so glad to hear you are doing the coffee enemas. I think they

are such a big help.

Some of your symptoms are very " flu-like " which is candida being

killed off. A runny nose, sore throat, large bm and diarrhea are more

like getting rid of toxins. Both mean you have made a big gain.

Good for you.

How are you reacting to coconut oil? What are your symptoms?

What is a Z-pac?

I don't know whether you are moving gall stones, but the coffee

enemas are creating changes and spurring more healing. If it works

go for it.

I got very bad pains I thought was my liver, but I may be mistaken.

How do you know it is your gall bladder?

Bee

[Guest guest]

You remind me. Can one overdo the enemas so that it makes the colon lazy

resulting in constipation?

Phil

Re: [ ] Coffee enemas

Hi Phil,

I've been doing coffee e's for quite a number of years when I developed

environmental allergies. I know they date back to at least the 1930's, probably

further. I learned mine from Sherry MD in her book Wellness Against All

Odds. If I remember correctly, she says 1 tablespoon per cup max. I started out

way below that at first. Eventually my the body developed a tolerance and I

didn't receive near the same results. I think the dosage just has to do with how

your body responds.

I ended up adding a particular herb that ended up potentiating the solution

and gives me the original results.

I would assume increasing circulation would have something to do with body

temperature. According to my doctor, even people who have low body temperature

still have a core temperature of around 98.6. So increasing circulation seem to

make sense But I don't really know more than that.

Craig

[Guest guest]

Dear Elyse,

All recipes need to be followed exactly as written to achieve the

benefit intended.

Bee

> Hi Bee,

> Do you know why the coffee needs to be boiled for 5 minutes? I'd

like

> to know if it's ok to just boil water and make a cup more or less

the

> regular way (with a cloth filter not a paper one).

> Elyse

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

I was just interested in why the coffee needs to be boiled, curious if

there's something it getst out if boiled. I can remember things I need

to do better if I understand why.

I used to see a homeopath that said to just make it like regular

coffee, even the same strengh as regular coffee. When I'm clear, no

problem. When I'm spaced out in the middle of die-off I have a

tendency to do things the way I used to know, I have to remind myself

to get used to a new way. Thanks,

Elyse

On 3-Mar-05, at 11:15 AM, Bee Wilder wrote:

>

> All recipes need to be followed exactly as written to achieve the

> benefit intended.

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, the royal flush does work. It has to be done with organic beans

without any other process than cooking of the beans. Read all about it on

Curezone.com and http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/ and

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/dietarytherapy/a/EnemasColonics.htm . Good

luck. Liver flushes help too.

coffee enemas

I have been reading up on some of the sites recommended by the group.

I just read the site about detoxifying by using a coffee enema. iam

wondering if any one here has tried it and if it seemed to help. I am

also wondering about not having a gall bladder, mine was removed about

8 years ago.

[Guest guest]

>

> What is the most effective way to do coffee enemas?

==>Eileen, there are very thorough instructions on them in the Enema

Folder (in our Files; left menu).

Bee

[Guest guest]

" Even so, if you are unable to retain an enema

they will still help you " .

>

> It is such a relief to know this, because I held the first one

for 5 mins, and the second for 4 minutes. I was in so much pain, and

afterwards I sat there for a good five minutes still having pains and

wanting to go.

>

> I am confused though, I thought that I should use 2 cups at a

time twice. Is this not correct?

==>Yes, Caryjean, you are correct. It is 2 cups, not 1 cup. Sorry.

>

> Also, I do not feel any different, am I supposed to? I was a

little shaky afterwards but I think it is because I was so scared.

==>Most people experience some changes. I immediately felt

rejuvenated and renewed after my first one, but that doesn't mean you

will feel that way. Some people get sick feelings because of all the

toxins being dumped. I think you shouldn't try to retain the enema,

and also ensure you are cleaning out the bowel first with plain

water. Try doing the antifungal and probiotic enemas and then 4-5

days later try the coffee enema again.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Could anyone provide the recipe and procedure for coffee enemas?

>

Hi Kathy,

the complete directions are avaialable in the " Enemas " folder in the

" Files " section of our group website. Go to our group site,

you'll see a menu on the left-hand side of the page. Click on the

" Files " link and it will take you to a page with a list of folders and

articles. Scroll down to the " Enemas " folder and inside that you'll

find articles with the information you're looking for.

hope that helps,

jackie

[Guest guest]

I found my information, Thank you Jackie

Kathy in AZ

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> How are you doing?

==>I am doing okay Mike.

>

> I just started decongesting my liver through coffee enemas. I

started doing your recommended plan for decongesting the liver found

in the files. I read a previous post where you recommended 5 times

every three days then go to 5 times for two months then one every two

weeks for two months then once a month for two months. I have had

three coffee enemas in the last 11 days just like you recommended.

>Here is one question; I kept the coffee in for 20 minutes instead of

the 12 to 15 minutes that was recommended in the file. Is there any

harm in having the coffee longer? Should I be more exact on the time?

==>There is no need to hold it longer than 12 minutes, but it

probably won't hurt you.

> Here is my next question. My forth enema would be on this

Wednesday. I am on a flight leaving the country the next day on

Thursday morning? Is there any risk doing the coffee enema and then

leaving the country to Mexico the next day? Would it be better for me

to wait until I come back in 5 days? Is there a down side to waiting?

==>There's no risk in doing it before you go, nor in waiting until

after you get back.

> Thanks for your help and happy New Year!!!

==>Happy New Year to you too! Have a nice trip.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Neal

>

> When you do the coffee enemas do you use tap water or distilled?

>

> I've been using tap water that have been vigorously boiled, then I let it sit

for 12 or so hours then the next morning I make the coffee ...  not sure if this

is good or not?

>

>

> thanks   

> madonna

Hey Madonna

Sounds good to me. I have used all of the above. We used to use a filter

attached to the kitchen faucet but with remodeling it comes and goes. I have

boiled water and bought distilled and they all seem to work excellent. I had a

major, thought I was going to die healing reaction within 24 hours of mt first

enema. I was at work in a somewhat remote place and to the outside observer I

probably looked like a drug addict in need of a fix. I have NEVER had an

experience like it and have had 2 since, (and always after a coffee enema) and

you know you are on the right track when you are done though it is a little

difficult to understand while going through it the first time. I'm not saying

the experience will be the same for you and i'm also not trying to talk you out

of it. In the quest for excellent health I encourage all to get outside the

comfort zone and comfort foods and follow Bee's advise and go for it. It is

scary for many but good health requires it I believe. Saunas and niacin have

also contributed to healing reactions.

I do believe you have talked me into one tomorrow morning, thanks.

Neal

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Neal

>

> When you do the coffee enemas do you use tap water or distilled?

>

> I've been using tap water that have been vigorously boiled, then I let it sit

for 12 or so hours then the next morning I make the coffee ...  not sure if this

is good or not?

+++The instructions in the Coffee Enema article say this:

You can boil tap water for 30 minutes in an uncovered pot to remove the

chlorine, or leave an open jug of water for 24 hours to get rid of the chlorine.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

When we lived in Federal Way Washington the water was so over-chlorinated that I

had to let the water set for a *week* to get rid of the chlorine smell in it. I

found less of a smell if I used the hot tap water but it still had to set to get

rid of it. Little helps I found were to let it sit in full sun or over a strong

magnet or put in a few drops/gallon of the 35% peroxide to " boil " it out. I

would just keep sniffing the water every day until I could no longer detect the

smell of it.

Happily we moved to a place with our own spring well water before I found you.

My tap-water actually made me feel better at that time.

Nan

>You can boil tap water for 30 minutes in an uncovered pot to remove the

chlorine, or leave an open jug of water for 24 hours to get rid of the chlorine.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> When we lived in Federal Way Washington the water was so over-chlorinated that

I had to let the water set for a *week* to get rid of the chlorine smell in it.

I found less of a smell if I used the hot tap water but it still had to set to

get rid of it. Little helps I found were to let it sit in full sun or over a

strong magnet or put in a few drops/gallon of the 35% peroxide to " boil " it out.

I would just keep sniffing the water every day until I could no longer detect

the smell of it.

>

> Happily we moved to a place with our own spring well water before I found you.

My tap-water actually made me feel better at that time.

+++Hi Nan. Wow, that is amazing what you had to go through to get rid of the

chlorine, and it's good that you knew enough to handle it properly. You are one

very smart lady Nan!

You are one of those people who " has had " to persevere through so much in order

to get healthy, and I commend you!!

Luv & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

Sorry...I meant to say one coffee enema a week for the past 5 weeks.

Hi Bee,

I've been doing coffee enemas once a for the last 5 weeks. I never did them 3-5

days prior because I really only have time to do them once a week being they are

quite the process. My question is how long should I continue to do these once a

week? I was thinking for 4 months and then cut back to once every couple weeks

for 2 months and then once a month after that. Is this too much though?

Thanks for your input!

Have a great day!

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

> I've been doing coffee enemas once a for the last 5 weeks. I never did them

3-5 days prior because I really only have time to do them once a week being they

are quite the process. My question is how long should I continue to do these

once a week? I was thinking for 4 months and then cut back to once every couple

weeks for 2 months and then once a month after that. Is this too much though?

+++Hi . It is quite okay to do enemas once a week instead of every 4-5

days.

-After 2 months do enemas every 2 weeks.

-After 3 months do enemas once a month, stopping altogether after 6 months,

unless you slip on the diet and find you need them again.

In future you may want to do a coffee enema once a year.

You have a great day too .

Bee