Re: NONI juice dangers!!!!

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Thx for the info - maybe it also depends on how much or little we take - I

drink a small amount each day, along with a small amount of grape seed extract

capsule, and my lipomas (fatty tissue tumors) are disappearing. This is also

what is happening for people with dercums disease (multiple fatty tumors). -

Robin

In a message dated 10/24/2008 12:59:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

FinRussak@... writes:

Liver toxic, addictive, kidney toxic, potassium problems,interferes with

serious meds!!! see below.

Noni can cause liver toxicty and even hepatitis!

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it can also cause hyperkalemia ( too high potassium) which is a serious

cardiac risk!! especially in people with prior kidney issues. even more if

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a few tests showed the potassium in Noni to be simlilar to orange and tomato

juice ( both on the do NOT drink lists for many patients) and yet it seemed

to raise blood levels higher--possibly due to the fact of its allowing some

people to absorb/metabolize more potassium .( and, again, with ACE inhibitors

the effect is multiplied)?a few tests showed the potassium in Noni to be

simlilar to orange and tomato j

blocks warfarin (Coumadin) so if youre on blood thinners--AVOID Noni too!!

in lab it did show to block blood vessel growth in cancer and tumors which

may be good--BUT if it does this aroun d healthy tissues too it can be BIG

trouble!! and NO the Noni doesnt " know " where its doing the blocking, and cant

target one area of the body without affecting any other areas too.

a few studies claimed Noni may have anti anxiety effects--well, in the lab

EXTRACTS and tinctures of Noni did compete with GABA-a receptors. This means

that in your brain,it will bind the receptors and temporarily give you a 'feel

good/better " reaction.Not that this is a bad thing BUT if youre avoiding

brain altering substances due to an anxiety state ( common in ) you MAY have

rebound worse anxiety if you try to stop Noni.

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This also explains how some persons become somewhat addicted to it!! and

when they try to stop they feel " worse " ...nothing to do with " healing " or

" curative " powers at all--simple brain chemistry the sellers take advantage

of--like Tobacco companies!!!

My Mother is convinced she cant live without her ciggarettes-My Mother is

convinced she cant live without her ciggarettes-

the marketing and abuse for this sort of stuff is unbelievable!the marketing

and abuse for this sort of stuff is unbelievable!<WBR>!! tell people itll

cure it all,

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[Guest guest]

I don't feel they gave enough information. There may be a difference

between brands. They did not list which ones they were on. Also, some

pathogen-killers effect the liver because of the fast rate at which they force

the liver

to filter the pathogens it kills. Thus, its a complicated picture. But, I

do think its food for thought.

Heidi N

Thx for the info - maybe it also depends on how much or little we take - I

drink a small amount each day, along with a small amount of grape seed

extract

capsule, and my lipomas (fatty tissue tumors) are disappearing. This is also

what is happening for people with dercums disease (multiple fatty tumors). -

Robin

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Fin for warning us of the dangers of noni. I almost purchased organic

noni juice but my LLND said it would not be potent enough compared to noni

tincture. Being chemically sensitive, I avoid hepatoxic substances. Pick your

poison. Which is less liver toxic noni or antibiotics? Before making that

decision, I need to know whether noni eradicates lyme. Does noni eradicate only

babesia? I don't have babesia. bionatus.com does not cite any published research

on noni eradicating lyme or babesia. Does anyone know any research? If not, I

will spare my liver by refraining from noni even though I do have three fatty

lumps.Robin, do you think the combination of grape fruit seed extract and noni

are dissolving your fatty tumors? Could it be the GSE by itself?    

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7a. NONI juice dangers!!!!

Posted by: " FinRussak@... " FinRussak@... finlerm24

Date: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:59 pm ((PDT))

Liver toxic, addictive, kidney toxic, potassium problems,interferes with

serious meds!!! see below.

Noni can cause liver toxicty and even hepatitis!

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it can also cause hyperkalemia ( too high potassium) which is a serious cardiac

risk!! especially in people with prior kidney issues. even more if youre on ACE

inhibitors for blood pressure

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