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QUOTE......... " (when using highly sensitive and reliable tests) " .......

To my knowledge the state of testing for co-infections is no where near

a state of reliable...if there were reliable tests we could avail ourselves

to, we'd be more than half way to solving the problem. Mycoplasma is among

the trickiest. Then, as with Borrelia, there is the difficult situation of

the different strains.

You are lucky to know that it is unlikely that you suffer from the

co-infections.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:01 AM, knot_weed <tek0nik@...> wrote:

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> > Also, I went to Dr Burrascano's talk and heard him mention that all Lyme

> patients have co-infections, but I don't think I do - I think I just have

> Lyme from a tick bite in Big Sur, CA in 1981.

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> It seems highly unlikely that every patient has co-infections,

> statistically speaking ... But the fact that he thinks so says enough: the

> percentage of patients with tick co-infections is probably high (when using

> highly sensitive and reliable tests), especially in the 'chronic' group

> (maybe that is what he was talking about?).

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> And because of that, the symptoms lists, treatment schedules and clinical

> trials are all suspect ... in most cases you cannot be sure what you are

> dealing with. Of course Burrascano's definition of Lyme disease is VERY

> different from that of IDSA (which excludes even most patients with a

> Borrelia infection).

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> We know from studies that having co-infections or multiple Bb strains is a

> risk factor for disease severity, treatment failure etc. So chronic patients

> probably have more coinfections than those with early Lyme, where most of

> the diagnostics and treatment studies are based on.

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> QUOTE......... " (when using highly sensitive and reliable tests) " .......

> To my knowledge the state of testing for co-infections is no where near

> a state of reliable...if there were reliable tests we could avail ourselves

> to, we'd be more than half way to solving the problem. Mycoplasma is among

> the trickiest. Then, as with Borrelia, there is the difficult situation of

> the different strains.

I was talking about a research environment in this case, not about the tests

that are available for average patients nowadays; those are pretty unreliable at

best.

I'm hoping that within a few years there will be some studies where patients are

thoroughtly checked for Bb strains AND potential tick coinfections. Hopefully

that should provide better guidance for interpretation of symptoms and

treatments/prognosis.

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