Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 >Subject: info on Dr Zhang?s treatment and colloidal silver Hi folks, has anyone passed thru Dr Zhang?s treatment to Lyme based on chinese medicine ( herbs)? If so, does it work ? Has anyone also tried colloidal silver ? how is it supposed to work ? is it effective? > thanks Marcos Hi Marcos, I began his protocol almost a month ago. The main herb is Allicin (garlic), which is an antimicrobial. Beware, because it does make you smell like garlic! Zhang recommended taking Clorophyll to help with the odor. It doesn't seem to be doing much for me, but either do the ABX. It might just be too soon to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 it's not allicin, it's allitridi, which is a metabolite of allicin. he claims its converted back to allicin in the body. its very expensive for what it is, and researchers who work with allicin say there's no proof it does that...just fyi...his HH is probably good for lyme, some have done well w/ it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Finette, have you tried any of the IgG powder mixes on the market? they may not be as effective as the IV's but one doc I saw has me on IgG Mix - (immunoglobulin supplementation). apparently it has 15 x more transferrin and lactoferrin than colostrum. I tried Zhang as well, and wasn't able to tolerate some of his supplements due to chemical sensitivities, despite him assuring me they were pure. Steve On Feb 1, 2008, at 1:02 AM, FinRussak@... wrote: > Hi Beth > > as many on here are VERY knowledgeable about herbs (for which I > have been VERY grateful) and due to the probable overlap in Zhang > and Buhner (? some Zhang's Chinese herbals have counterparts or > analogs to what Buhner suggests) I dont see why we cant discuss it > here ( plus I keep getting errors on your email address) > > my son was on Zhang, with no other abx for about 6-7 months,( he > had to stop?abx as he was almost toxic and by then had gone thru > almost every abx.combo known to medicine to no avail) > > ?He is Lyme gestational and therefore assumed to have both cystic > and spiro forms. He is also Bart pos and myco pos. He was never > Babs pos but has had suspicious sx on and off so the supposition is > the possibility. taking all this into account, Dr Zhang adjusted > his protocol accordingly. > > well, for the first?3 months he herxed in about 5 weeks patterns, > when NOTHING had moved his misery in either direction previously > for nearly 2 yrs. then magically month 3 he started to feel a bit > better, still Herxing...BUT then for whatever reason by month 4.5 > and into month 5 he slipped back...not a Herx or any pattern to > it.total reversal of all improvement > \ > ?and then by month 6 was too miserable to continue. constant sx, no > Herx, no releif..Zhang changed dosages and herbs, then had our > local accup. change stuff around too, finally after another month > we gave up.by then The reeking from the garlic bothered even > him...it seeped from every pore and as it wasnt working...and we > agreed that the non odor products have the active elements > removed.and as a teen discouraged already we couldnt bear to argue > with my son. " why am I swallowing tons of stuff, reeking so bad I > cant leave the house or take the smell in my own room and yet I > STILL feel so awful? " > what would YOU tell him? > > BUT Evan also has an immune snafu--he is chronic low IGG /subsets > and we cant be sure if from birth and/or due to the Lyme etc...we > DO know that a few months trial on IV IGG helped him immensely when > combined with abx BUT both insurance and his specialists wont allow > it again...as its " off label " ...he hasnt the periph neuropathy or > other diagnosed conditions its approved for and as a blood product > its high risk and EXPENSIVE ( meaning insurance nightmare). we have > seen 5 immuno's 3 rheumies 6 neuro's and various others and all say > no...even the dysautonomia specialists couldnt get them to renew it > and that is really a " neuropathy " too. I just feel intuitively that > he needs this missing element > he is low enough to be wreaking havoc but " not low enough " for any > of them to qualify medical necessity vs risk > > other immune boosters ( mushrooms, immune factor , goji, > mangosteen,herbs etc) we tried just dont target IGG and even if > they were?boosting his immune system in general--his IGG stays > pretty low, just barely above that magic threshold of necessity > > so maybe with IGG he wouldve been able to use the Zhang to heal > more completely. (btw ?same thing with Buhner...a small improvement > at first then NOTHING so after a few months of worsening he is back > on abx now) > > anyway Zhang was expensive but at first was well worth it. Zhang > will talk on phone with you but prefers to see/examine you. VERY > kind and knowledgeable guy if you can get to NYC even once. Also I > agree with him that for a real chance you really should also do the > accupuncture ( and he even will tell your own accupuncturist the > points and treatments depending upon your sx!!). He spent time on > phone with our local Drs and accup. without charging for the time. > In between visits we psoke on phone about sx for him to adjust > herbs and dosing...again charged only for herbs... > > Ive met many at his office and online who are really HEALED by him > but again as with all things Lymie...for every cure there are 10 of > us who dont get any?positive changes?from the same treatment!! > IF youve failed on all alse and have reaxhed point where abx no > longer improving you...Id give Zhang a try. and/or Buhner too..and > Id even maybe ask about combining the 2 or elements of both BUT be > careful to ask both for recommendations as you dont want to either > counteract with opposing herbs or overdose on synergistic herbs > > I dont know if Id recommend any of the alternatives INSTEAD of abx > or as first line but?thats my bias and fear knowing?how under > treated infections end up---like ME! but WITH abx and or after abx > have taken you just so far...then Id try them all, one at a time or > combos but with CARE > > and keep us posted---I would be VERY intersted in knowing how you > did and on what!! > > be well > Finette > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > More new features than ever. 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Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 As for garlic, I take Klinghardt's anti lyme BioPure brand - freeze dried garlic extract. i don't notice any smell but who knows what others detect? If it's good enough for Klinghardt, i'm sure it's as good as Zhang's. Steve On Feb 1, 2008, at 1:02 AM, FinRussak@... wrote: > Hi Beth > > as many on here are VERY knowledgeable about herbs (for which I > have been VERY grateful) and due to the probable overlap in Zhang > and Buhner (? some Zhang's Chinese herbals have counterparts or > analogs to what Buhner suggests) I dont see why we cant discuss it > here ( plus I keep getting errors on your email address) > > my son was on Zhang, with no other abx for about 6-7 months,( he > had to stop?abx as he was almost toxic and by then had gone thru > almost every abx.combo known to medicine to no avail) > > ?He is Lyme gestational and therefore assumed to have both cystic > and spiro forms. He is also Bart pos and myco pos. He was never > Babs pos but has had suspicious sx on and off so the supposition is > the possibility. taking all this into account, Dr Zhang adjusted > his protocol accordingly. > > well, for the first?3 months he herxed in about 5 weeks patterns, > when NOTHING had moved his misery in either direction previously > for nearly 2 yrs. then magically month 3 he started to feel a bit > better, still Herxing...BUT then for whatever reason by month 4.5 > and into month 5 he slipped back...not a Herx or any pattern to > it.total reversal of all improvement > \ > ?and then by month 6 was too miserable to continue. constant sx, no > Herx, no releif..Zhang changed dosages and herbs, then had our > local accup. change stuff around too, finally after another month > we gave up.by then The reeking from the garlic bothered even > him...it seeped from every pore and as it wasnt working...and we > agreed that the non odor products have the active elements > removed.and as a teen discouraged already we couldnt bear to argue > with my son. " why am I swallowing tons of stuff, reeking so bad I > cant leave the house or take the smell in my own room and yet I > STILL feel so awful? " > what would YOU tell him? > > BUT Evan also has an immune snafu--he is chronic low IGG /subsets > and we cant be sure if from birth and/or due to the Lyme etc...we > DO know that a few months trial on IV IGG helped him immensely when > combined with abx BUT both insurance and his specialists wont allow > it again...as its " off label " ...he hasnt the periph neuropathy or > other diagnosed conditions its approved for and as a blood product > its high risk and EXPENSIVE ( meaning insurance nightmare). we have > seen 5 immuno's 3 rheumies 6 neuro's and various others and all say > no...even the dysautonomia specialists couldnt get them to renew it > and that is really a " neuropathy " too. I just feel intuitively that > he needs this missing element > he is low enough to be wreaking havoc but " not low enough " for any > of them to qualify medical necessity vs risk > > other immune boosters ( mushrooms, immune factor , goji, > mangosteen,herbs etc) we tried just dont target IGG and even if > they were?boosting his immune system in general--his IGG stays > pretty low, just barely above that magic threshold of necessity > > so maybe with IGG he wouldve been able to use the Zhang to heal > more completely. (btw ?same thing with Buhner...a small improvement > at first then NOTHING so after a few months of worsening he is back > on abx now) > > anyway Zhang was expensive but at first was well worth it. Zhang > will talk on phone with you but prefers to see/examine you. VERY > kind and knowledgeable guy if you can get to NYC even once. Also I > agree with him that for a real chance you really should also do the > accupuncture ( and he even will tell your own accupuncturist the > points and treatments depending upon your sx!!). He spent time on > phone with our local Drs and accup. without charging for the time. > In between visits we psoke on phone about sx for him to adjust > herbs and dosing...again charged only for herbs... > > Ive met many at his office and online who are really HEALED by him > but again as with all things Lymie...for every cure there are 10 of > us who dont get any?positive changes?from the same treatment!! > IF youve failed on all alse and have reaxhed point where abx no > longer improving you...Id give Zhang a try. and/or Buhner too..and > Id even maybe ask about combining the 2 or elements of both BUT be > careful to ask both for recommendations as you dont want to either > counteract with opposing herbs or overdose on synergistic herbs > > I dont know if Id recommend any of the alternatives INSTEAD of abx > or as first line but?thats my bias and fear knowing?how under > treated infections end up---like ME! but WITH abx and or after abx > have taken you just so far...then Id try them all, one at a time or > combos but with CARE > > and keep us posted---I would be VERY intersted in knowing how you > did and on what!! > > be well > Finette > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > More new features than ever. 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Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Hi Finette, Ok, well i like the idea of discussing Zhang here as well since there does seem to be overlap and it does seem like if one is going to treat themself with herbs than why not benefit from both sources of info that are each packed with info. Thank you for sharing the specifics of your son's experience with herbs and Zhang in such detail. So it sounds like all in all stuff helped him in the begining but not later? When he was treated by Zhang, did Dr. Zhang explain how he addresses the cystic form of lyme? I've just started seeing a lyme herbalist in my home state who said that Zhang's Houtyinia (HH) addresses cystic lyme (can be bought from www.hepapro.com). I'm still curious to expand my knowledge of how to get to the cystic form with the herbs beyond this info though. (and im sure most of us could benefit from calculating that into our approaches). What about Bartonella? Do we know what Zhang uses for Bartonella? Or is it sort of just crafted into his standard anitmicrobial program of garlic the fist few months etc.. I " m looking at the book (Zhangs book) and the treatment flow chart says that if one has Babesia, start treating that (as most of us know to do), then move onto the lyme protocal (allicin, HH, Circulation P). But it says nothing about Bartonella. I " m assuming that may be b/c the book came out 2 years ago and Bartonella is just becoming more and more coming over these past 2 years so maybe he didnt have it as crafted into his protocal. Oh and on a last note....i dont think i can do the garlic b/c i think i'm sensitive to garlic. Like your son i have all sorts of Igg issues that have come from being sick from lyme for years...lots of allergies and sensitivties. So im not sure i can really do Zhang without the garlic since thats such a core part of his plan. When you son wanted off the garlic was that the end of working with Zhang or could Zhang work around that? Thanks and blessings, Beth Hi Beth > > as many on here are VERY knowledgeable about herbs (for which I have been VERY grateful) and due to the probable overlap in Zhang and Buhner (? some Zhang's Chinese herbals have counterparts or analogs to what Buhner suggests) I dont see why we cant discuss it here ( plus I keep getting errors on your email address) > > my son was on Zhang, with no other abx for about 6-7 months,( he had to stop?abx as he was almost toxic and by then had gone thru almost every abx.combo known to medicine to no avail) > > ?He is Lyme gestational and therefore assumed to have both cystic and spiro forms. He is also Bart pos and myco pos. He was never Babs pos but has had suspicious sx on and off so the supposition is the possibility. taking all this into account, Dr Zhang adjusted his protocol accordingly. > > well, for the first?3 months he herxed in about 5 weeks patterns, when NOTHING had moved his misery in either direction previously for nearly 2 yrs. then magically month 3 he started to feel a bit better, still Herxing...BUT then for whatever reason by month 4.5 and into month 5 he slipped back...not a Herx or any pattern to it.total reversal of all improvement > \ > ?and then by month 6 was too miserable to continue. constant sx, no Herx, no releif..Zhang changed dosages and herbs, then had our local accup. change stuff around too, finally after another month we gave up.by then The reeking from the garlic bothered even him...it seeped from every pore and as it wasnt working...and we agreed that the non odor products have the active elements removed.and as a teen discouraged already we couldnt bear to argue with my son. " why am I swallowing tons of stuff, reeking so bad I cant leave the house or take the smell in my own room and yet I STILL feel so awful? " > what would YOU tell him? > > BUT Evan also has an immune snafu--he is chronic low IGG /subsets and we cant be sure if from birth and/or due to the Lyme etc...we DO know that a few months trial on IV IGG helped him immensely when combined with abx BUT both insurance and his specialists wont allow it again...as its " off label " ...he hasnt the periph neuropathy or other diagnosed conditions its approved for and as a blood product its high risk and EXPENSIVE ( meaning insurance nightmare). we have seen 5 immuno's 3 rheumies 6 neuro's and various others and all say no...even the dysautonomia specialists couldnt get them to renew it and that is really a " neuropathy " too. I just feel intuitively that he needs this missing element > he is low enough to be wreaking havoc but " not low enough " for any of them to qualify medical necessity vs risk > > other immune boosters ( mushrooms, immune factor , goji, mangosteen,herbs etc) we tried just dont target IGG and even if they were?boosting his immune system in general--his IGG stays pretty low, just barely above that magic threshold of necessity > > so maybe with IGG he wouldve been able to use the Zhang to heal more completely. (btw ?same thing with Buhner...a small improvement at first then NOTHING so after a few months of worsening he is back on abx now) > > anyway Zhang was expensive but at first was well worth it. Zhang will talk on phone with you but prefers to see/examine you. VERY kind and knowledgeable guy if you can get to NYC even once. Also I agree with him that for a real chance you really should also do the accupuncture ( and he even will tell your own accupuncturist the points and treatments depending upon your sx!!). He spent time on phone with our local Drs and accup. without charging for the time. In between visits we psoke on phone about sx for him to adjust herbs and dosing...again charged only for herbs... > > Ive met many at his office and online who are really HEALED by him but again as with all things Lymie...for every cure there are 10 of us who dont get any?positive changes?from the same treatment!! > IF youve failed on all alse and have reaxhed point where abx no longer improving you...Id give Zhang a try. and/or Buhner too..and Id even maybe ask about combining the 2 or elements of both BUT be careful to ask both for recommendations as you dont want to either counteract with opposing herbs or overdose on synergistic herbs > > I dont know if Id recommend any of the alternatives INSTEAD of abx or as first line but?thats my bias and fear knowing?how under treated infections end up---like ME! but WITH abx and or after abx have taken you just so far...then Id try them all, one at a time or combos but with CARE > > and keep us posted---I would be VERY intersted in knowing how you did and on what!! > > be well > Finette > > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 You all can do what you want. But I would caution you on mixing protocols, at least without talking to the originators of each protocol first. I tried mixing some herbs that people recommended in with Buhner's protocols about a year and a half ago, and ran into big time trouble. I won't do THAT again. There is a reason these MASTER herbalists have come up with their protocol. I personally would do one of the other at different times, BUT I would NOT run them together. JMHO. Jim. ### dancingfairy22 <dancingfairy22@...> wrote: Hi Finette, Ok, well i like the idea of discussing Zhang here as well since there does seem to be overlap and it does seem like if one is going to treat themself with herbs than why not benefit from both sources of info that are each packed with info. Thank you for sharing the specifics of your son's experience with herbs and Zhang in such detail. So it sounds like all in all stuff helped him in the begining but not later? When he was treated by Zhang, did Dr. Zhang explain how he addresses the cystic form of lyme? I've just started seeing a lyme herbalist in my home state who said that Zhang's Houtyinia (HH) addresses cystic lyme (can be bought from www.hepapro.com). I'm still curious to expand my knowledge of how to get to the cystic form with the herbs beyond this info though. (and im sure most of us could benefit from calculating that into our approaches). What about Bartonella? Do we know what Zhang uses for Bartonella? Or is it sort of just crafted into his standard anitmicrobial program of garlic the fist few months etc.. I " m looking at the book (Zhangs book) and the treatment flow chart says that if one has Babesia, start treating that (as most of us know to do), then move onto the lyme protocal (allicin, HH, Circulation P). But it says nothing about Bartonella. I " m assuming that may be b/c the book came out 2 years ago and Bartonella is just becoming more and more coming over these past 2 years so maybe he didnt have it as crafted into his protocal. Oh and on a last note....i dont think i can do the garlic b/c i think i'm sensitive to garlic. Like your son i have all sorts of Igg issues that have come from being sick from lyme for years...lots of allergies and sensitivties. So im not sure i can really do Zhang without the garlic since thats such a core part of his plan. When you son wanted off the garlic was that the end of working with Zhang or could Zhang work around that? Thanks and blessings, Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Hi Finette, I have low IgM, low T cells and low IgG class 2. My LLMD feels that these are all due to the chronic nature of the Lyme, Bart and Myco p.infections. She recently went to a Lyme conference where other LLMD's shared that they had seen similar abnormalities that are reversable with long-term abx treatment. I use herbal + natural support but didn't see my blood work start to improve until I added abx. I wish it were otherwise but that has been my experience. It is a long hard road, but I am sure improving so it is worth it. As far as IgG powders, I am unaware of these. Can any shed some light? Cheers, Craig > > Finette, > have you tried any of the IgG powder mixes on the market? they may > not be as effective as the > IV's but one doc I saw has me on IgG Mix - (immunoglobulin > supplementation). apparently it has > 15 x more transferrin and lactoferrin than colostrum. > > I tried Zhang as well, and wasn't able to tolerate some of his > supplements due to chemical sensitivities, > despite him assuring me they were pure. > > Steve > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I did zhang for 8 months with buhner in combo the last 2 months and ended up getting new and addditional /real set back in symptoms. My advice is not to mix. I don't think that it was an issue mixing the herbs (Dr. Zhang said it was OK). I just don't think either was getting to the root issue. Zhang- 2400.00 later and no better/but actually worse. I am now going down the candida/yeast path. Tested positive to yeast issue through Great Plains Lab (specialized in autism and immune system issues). I'm also doing a few buhner herbs-devils claw, sarsparilla and homeopathic lyme kit. I started LDN (low dose naltrexone protocol) in September. I am doing much better.. but not sure if it winter season ( I was also better last winter ) and then all hell broke loose in July. I will start a nystatin /don't feed the yeast diet this week for 3 months and see where that takes me. I tested positive for lyme according to IGENEX wester blot ( 2 bands positive). I may also add cat's claw back end after being on the yeast cleanse for month or two. I " d start with Buhner in hindsight.. much less expensive and prob. just as effective as Zhang if herbs are going to work. ( I also did acunpuncture for 8 months while on zhang). Stopped that as well since no major improvement/and infact got worse. > > Hi Beth > > as many on here are VERY knowledgeable about herbs (for which I have been VERY grateful) and due to the probable overlap in Zhang and Buhner (? some Zhang's Chinese herbals have counterparts or analogs to what Buhner suggests) I dont see why we cant discuss it here ( plus I keep getting errors on your email address) > > my son was on Zhang, with no other abx for about 6-7 months,( he had to stop?abx as he was almost toxic and by then had gone thru almost every abx.combo known to medicine to no avail) > > ?He is Lyme gestational and therefore assumed to have both cystic and spiro forms. He is also Bart pos and myco pos. He was never Babs pos but has had suspicious sx on and off so the supposition is the possibility. taking all this into account, Dr Zhang adjusted his protocol accordingly. > > well, for the first?3 months he herxed in about 5 weeks patterns, when NOTHING had moved his misery in either direction previously for nearly 2 yrs. then magically month 3 he started to feel a bit better, still Herxing...BUT then for whatever reason by month 4.5 and into month 5 he slipped back...not a Herx or any pattern to it.total reversal of all improvement > \ > ?and then by month 6 was too miserable to continue. constant sx, no Herx, no releif..Zhang changed dosages and herbs, then had our local accup. change stuff around too, finally after another month we gave up.by then The reeking from the garlic bothered even him...it seeped from every pore and as it wasnt working...and we agreed that the non odor products have the active elements removed.and as a teen discouraged already we couldnt bear to argue with my son. " why am I swallowing tons of stuff, reeking so bad I cant leave the house or take the smell in my own room and yet I STILL feel so awful? " > what would YOU tell him? > > BUT Evan also has an immune snafu--he is chronic low IGG /subsets and we cant be sure if from birth and/or due to the Lyme etc...we DO know that a few months trial on IV IGG helped him immensely when combined with abx BUT both insurance and his specialists wont allow it again...as its " off label " ...he hasnt the periph neuropathy or other diagnosed conditions its approved for and as a blood product its high risk and EXPENSIVE ( meaning insurance nightmare). we have seen 5 immuno's 3 rheumies 6 neuro's and various others and all say no...even the dysautonomia specialists couldnt get them to renew it and that is really a " neuropathy " too. I just feel intuitively that he needs this missing element > he is low enough to be wreaking havoc but " not low enough " for any of them to qualify medical necessity vs risk > > other immune boosters ( mushrooms, immune factor , goji, mangosteen,herbs etc) we tried just dont target IGG and even if they were?boosting his immune system in general--his IGG stays pretty low, just barely above that magic threshold of necessity > > so maybe with IGG he wouldve been able to use the Zhang to heal more completely. (btw ?same thing with Buhner...a small improvement at first then NOTHING so after a few months of worsening he is back on abx now) > > anyway Zhang was expensive but at first was well worth it. Zhang will talk on phone with you but prefers to see/examine you. VERY kind and knowledgeable guy if you can get to NYC even once. Also I agree with him that for a real chance you really should also do the accupuncture ( and he even will tell your own accupuncturist the points and treatments depending upon your sx!!). He spent time on phone with our local Drs and accup. without charging for the time. In between visits we psoke on phone about sx for him to adjust herbs and dosing...again charged only for herbs... > > Ive met many at his office and online who are really HEALED by him but again as with all things Lymie...for every cure there are 10 of us who dont get any?positive changes?from the same treatment!! > IF youve failed on all alse and have reaxhed point where abx no longer improving you...Id give Zhang a try. and/or Buhner too..and Id even maybe ask about combining the 2 or elements of both BUT be careful to ask both for recommendations as you dont want to either counteract with opposing herbs or overdose on synergistic herbs > > I dont know if Id recommend any of the alternatives INSTEAD of abx or as first line but?thats my bias and fear knowing?how under treated infections end up---like ME! but WITH abx and or after abx have taken you just so far...then Id try them all, one at a time or combos but with CARE > > and keep us posted---I would be VERY intersted in knowing how you did and on what!! > > be well > Finette > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I don't know Zhang and I have no idea what he is like but his qualifications are more than accupunture. " Upon graduating from Shanghai Second Medical University in 1962, Dr. Zhang worked as a physician at Reijing Hospital in Shanghai. He also conducted clinical research on the integration of Chinese and Western medicine. In 1980, he was awarded a World Health Organization scholarship that supported a two-year fellowship at HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL and Massachusetts General Hospital. In 1984 he worked as a research fellow at the Wakai Clinic in Nagoya, Japan. He then received a one-year appointment from the University of California at as a visiting professor. " Additionally, everyone is selling something, right? Conventional doctors are selling Interferon and Ribavirin treatment. Yes, you buy it from a pharm but they can make money on it through stocks and by all your visits to them to be checked up. I tend to have a more positive outlook. I think there are lots of options and that everyone should read about all of them and chose what is right for them because so far it seems that no one is offering a perfect solution. I am also positive about the pharms. It looks like they are coming up with great improvements and I hope they find a effective low side effect cure soon. It looks like promising improvements are already in the works! Best Wishes, Scarlet > > This quake is not a doctor in the USA. He should not have MD after his name.. He has a degree in accupunture that is all. Yes, I did visit him since I am a 15 minute drive to his office on 46th St. in NYC. He is all about money and that is it. If he sees any hesistation in buying his crap he said " stop wasting his time " . Get this. It's not even real herbs that you eat like most chinese doctors give with the root and leaves etc. It's pills from Hepapro Corporation. His book is just all hear say. No research no nothing. Not one study. It's just him telling you I gave this person these herbs her viral load and enzyme came down alot. That's it. I wonder how much Hepapro gives him for selling all that crap. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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