Just a thought

[Guest guest]

To Just curious , lol

I have my theory on that alcohol stuffy, lol .(it is pure sugar) take

it from there. And I figure this much people can tell you anything until they

are blue in the face. but if your tempted to try it you will. And find out if

you can handle it yourself. Be careful it's only living longer you wanted

before you had surgery.

May the sun shine on you

always on a cloudy day,

so you may always see the light.

Sharon Ü

May the sun shine on you

always on a cloudy day,

so you may always see the light.

Sharon Ü

[Guest guest]

I have a friend who had an RNY that says you will get drunk VERY QUICKLY but

also sober up quickly too.....

I don't get a margarita for at least 9 more months, but I will let you

know...HAHA

in ARk

3-08

322-260 almost drunk on happiness and health some days

[Guest guest]

> Hi Everyone!

> You know, when I decided to have this surgery, I read all the

info and I

> was mentally prepared to NOT to have caffeine, sugary foods,

chocolate, soft

> drinks, etc. Or anthing else that the doc says is NOT ok. I came

this

> far......why take a chance? I want to be a success story, not a

statistic

> against the MGB.

> Thanks for listening.

> in Charlotte

>

I agree, I also know why I can't have caffeine, sugary foods,

chocolate, soft drinks. I just happened to be an inquizitive type

person, and I would have told Dr R he could have had one of my

kidney's if he had approved me for the surgery. I personally like to

be educated, and would like to know why tannic acid is bad. I haven't

said I want to drink tea with every meal, etc... but to be educated

yes, and so far, the only answer that I've gotten is that is is bad.

And why is the acid in tea bad, and not the acid in ketchup and

oranges?

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone!

While we're on the subject of things we can and cannot have... what's

the scoop on alcohol? I know that we're not supposed to have alcohol

for at least the first 6 months, preferrably the first year, but then

an occasional drink is OK... has anyone had any experience with

this... have you taken a drink (after the appropriate waiting period

of course) and if so, what was the reaction... how does ones body

react to alcohol with the small tummy?

Just curious,

>

> > Hi Everyone!

> > You know, when I decided to have this surgery, I read all the

> info and I

> > was mentally prepared to NOT to have caffeine, sugary foods,

> chocolate, soft

> > drinks, etc. Or anthing else that the doc says is NOT ok. I

came

> this

> > far......why take a chance? I want to be a success story, not a

> statistic

> > against the MGB.

> > Thanks for listening.

> > in Charlotte

> >

> I agree, I also know why I can't have caffeine, sugary foods,

> chocolate, soft drinks. I just happened to be an inquizitive type

> person, and I would have told Dr R he could have had one of my

> kidney's if he had approved me for the surgery. I personally like

to

> be educated, and would like to know why tannic acid is bad. I

haven't

> said I want to drink tea with every meal, etc... but to be educated

> yes, and so far, the only answer that I've gotten is that is is

bad.

> And why is the acid in tea bad, and not the acid in ketchup and

> oranges?

[Guest guest]

Ok, don't tell anyone, but I had alcohol (beer) after two months. I felt

" funny "

for about two days, just not right. I got a buzz going very quickly. Even

after

I felt better, my hair and skin seemed drier than usual. I haven't done it

again

and don't really care to, either. Naturally, I wasn't hungry from being

filled up

from the beer.

" " <assmith@...> on 06/01/2001 01:45:27 PM

Please respond to

cc:

Subject: Re: just a thought

Hello everyone!

While we're on the subject of things we can and cannot have... what's

the scoop on alcohol? I know that we're not supposed to have alcohol

for at least the first 6 months, preferrably the first year, but then

an occasional drink is OK... has anyone had any experience with

this... have you taken a drink (after the appropriate waiting period

of course) and if so, what was the reaction... how does ones body

react to alcohol with the small tummy?

Just curious,

>

> > Hi Everyone!

> > You know, when I decided to have this surgery, I read all the

> info and I

> > was mentally prepared to NOT to have caffeine, sugary foods,

> chocolate, soft

> > drinks, etc. Or anthing else that the doc says is NOT ok. I

came

> this

> > far......why take a chance? I want to be a success story, not a

> statistic

> > against the MGB.

> > Thanks for listening.

> > in Charlotte

> >

> I agree, I also know why I can't have caffeine, sugary foods,

> chocolate, soft drinks. I just happened to be an inquizitive type

> person, and I would have told Dr R he could have had one of my

> kidney's if he had approved me for the surgery. I personally like

to

> be educated, and would like to know why tannic acid is bad. I

haven't

> said I want to drink tea with every meal, etc... but to be educated

> yes, and so far, the only answer that I've gotten is that is is

bad.

> And why is the acid in tea bad, and not the acid in ketchup and

> oranges?

[Guest guest]

Hi , I have tried to have sips of my husbands stong margeritas,

and within a minute I was feeling the effects of the alcohol and I

knew if I drank just one drink, I would be drunk and falling on the

floor. I was looking forward to trying a glass of wine in Paris, but

reasoned that it would probably not be worth it, because it would

make me feel so bad. That is just my experience, but I couldn't

believe how fast I absorbed that alcohol. I decided instead to have a

few bites of my husbands wonderful desserts, they were fabulous

because I still love sweets, and they don't make me drunk and I don't

dump if I limit them to small amounts.

Just my two cents

Marjory / Ca

> Hello everyone!

>

> While we're on the subject of things we can and cannot have...

what's

> the scoop on alcohol? I know that we're not supposed to have

alcohol

> for at least the first 6 months, preferrably the first year, but

then

> an occasional drink is OK... has anyone had any experience with

> this... have you taken a drink (after the appropriate waiting

period

> of course) and if so, what was the reaction... how does ones body

> react to alcohol with the small tummy?

>

> Just curious,

>

>

> >

> > > Hi Everyone!

> > > You know, when I decided to have this surgery, I read all

the

> > info and I

> > > was mentally prepared to NOT to have caffeine, sugary foods,

> > chocolate, soft

> > > drinks, etc. Or anthing else that the doc says is NOT ok. I

> came

> > this

> > > far......why take a chance? I want to be a success story, not

a

> > statistic

> > > against the MGB.

> > > Thanks for listening.

> > > in Charlotte

> > >

> > I agree, I also know why I can't have caffeine, sugary foods,

> > chocolate, soft drinks. I just happened to be an inquizitive

type

> > person, and I would have told Dr R he could have had one of my

> > kidney's if he had approved me for the surgery. I personally

like

> to

> > be educated, and would like to know why tannic acid is bad. I

> haven't

> > said I want to drink tea with every meal, etc... but to be

educated

> > yes, and so far, the only answer that I've gotten is that is is

> bad.

> > And why is the acid in tea bad, and not the acid in ketchup and

> > oranges?

[Guest guest]

I agree with you...I am also trying to be compliant

with the doctors orders...we chose the surgery and the

surgeon because we trusted his opinion, so I feel I

need to follow his orders and do what the discharge

instructions say to do...whether I like it or not. I

also want success and want to follow the doctors

orders so not to have anything go wrong becuz I was

not following the directions...I have been

noncompliant in the past, and when I decided to get

the MGB I made a commitment to myself to do what the

manual says. I follow it and when something comes up

Im not sure, I re read it again for the

answers....again this too is just my opinion.

Jeanne in NY

-98pounds

MGB 7/20/00

--- Hypichk@... wrote:

> Hi Everyone!

> You know, when I decided to have this surgery, I

> read all the info and I

> was mentally prepared to NOT to have caffeine,

> sugary foods, chocolate, soft

> drinks, etc. Or anthing else that the doc says is

> NOT ok. I came this

> far......why take a chance? I want to be a success

> story, not a statistic

> against the MGB.

> Thanks for listening.

> in Charlotte

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Alcohol is hard on the liver and our livers are stressed by the surgery anyway.

I don't know about further out, but I will not be trying it.

Pat

Re: just a thought

Hello everyone!

While we're on the subject of things we can and cannot have... what's

the scoop on alcohol? I know that we're not supposed to have alcohol

for at least the first 6 months, preferrably the first year, but then

an occasional drink is OK... has anyone had any experience with

this... have you taken a drink (after the appropriate waiting period

of course) and if so, what was the reaction... how does ones body

react to alcohol with the small tummy?

Just curious,

>

> > Hi Everyone!

> > You know, when I decided to have this surgery, I read all the

> info and I

> > was mentally prepared to NOT to have caffeine, sugary foods,

> chocolate, soft

> > drinks, etc. Or anthing else that the doc says is NOT ok. I

came

> this

> > far......why take a chance? I want to be a success story, not a

> statistic

> > against the MGB.

> > Thanks for listening.

> > in Charlotte

> >

> I agree, I also know why I can't have caffeine, sugary foods,

> chocolate, soft drinks. I just happened to be an inquizitive type

> person, and I would have told Dr R he could have had one of my

> kidney's if he had approved me for the surgery. I personally like

to

> be educated, and would like to know why tannic acid is bad. I

haven't

> said I want to drink tea with every meal, etc... but to be educated

> yes, and so far, the only answer that I've gotten is that is is

bad.

> And why is the acid in tea bad, and not the acid in ketchup and

> oranges?

[Guest guest]

Has been on my mind too. I also hope the blood is

thouroughly checked. I don't trust the blood supply

being free of diseases. This blood drive in 10 years

might show up with something new.

Connie

--- claudine intexas <claudineintexas@...>

wrote:

> Many, many people have donated blood over the past 8

> days. I wonder how many of them will be getting

> letters in the mail telling them they have HCV?

> Claudine

>

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[Guest guest]

Claudine,

probably a whole bunch, unfortunately. But, at least they can stop drinking

and be aware of their liver.

I wouldn't be surprised if they see 10%.

Edie

Just a thought

> Many, many people have donated blood over the past 8

> days. I wonder how many of them will be getting

> letters in the mail telling them they have HCV?

> Claudine

>

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[Guest guest]

I've wondered the same thing...and I also wonder with the instant need

of so much blood, was it properly tested before sending it off to NY?

I do know that here in Chicago, it you had ever had a tatoo or a blood

transfusion they wouldn't let you donate blood.

Tatezi

claudine intexas wrote:

> Many, many people have donated blood over the past 8

> days. I wonder how many of them will be getting

> letters in the mail telling them they have HCV?

> Claudine

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Another thought: I wonder how long it will take all the people to

find out. I don't know how soon they let u know after u hv given the

blood. I heard once that they hv up to 2 years to let someone know,

but of course that could be false. Due to all the chaos though it is

hard to tell how long it will take the ones who donate to find out.

cher

[Guest guest]

I'm just wondering....why are you all so sure that they haven't tested the

donated blood? I know in Canada any blood donated is thoroughly tested now,

after so many people were infected. Of course, hindsight is 20/20 isn't

it? And in a disaster situation where blood is needed right now, who

knows? Is that what you mean, that maybe the need preceeded any testing?

Carol

cher_002@... wrote:

> Another thought: I wonder how long it will take all the people to

> find out. I don't know how soon they let u know after u hv given the

> blood. I heard once that they hv up to 2 years to let someone know,

> but of course that could be false. Due to all the chaos though it is

> hard to tell how long it will take the ones who donate to find out.

> cher

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In my case when I wrote that statement, I only meant that the ones

that donated blood wd hv the hep and then wondered how long it wd

take them to find out they were positve AFTER it ws tested. In normal

situations when u give blood and it is positive for hiv or hep, it

prob doesn't take long for them to let u know, but I don't know when

they hv a huge amount of people donating, it will take longer, i wd

think. No, I still think the blood is still tested the same as it ws

b4 whether disaster or not.

cher

[Guest guest]

Well, I meant what I said. I do not trust the blood

supply. Don't think I ever will anymore.

C

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Ahhhh I get it now Cher....thanks for clearing that up for me....I think I

have a good case of " Hep fog " ....or mental retardation....whichever, I think

it depends on which day it is LOL. Right now I have a flu bug too :-{ maybe

that's making me slower than normal....which would be = to a snail....lol.

Good luck with your decision...I think you are doing the right thing...and

that nurse in your docs office outta be shot!! She is being very

condescending, her little lecture to you is very childish and uncalled for.

A professional...she isn't.

Carol

cher_002@... wrote:

> In my case when I wrote that statement, I only meant that the ones

> that donated blood wd hv the hep and then wondered how long it wd

> take them to find out they were positve AFTER it ws tested. In normal

> situations when u give blood and it is positive for hiv or hep, it

> prob doesn't take long for them to let u know, but I don't know when

> they hv a huge amount of people donating, it will take longer, i wd

> think. No, I still think the blood is still tested the same as it ws

> b4 whether disaster or not.

> cher

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe it's me, but, except for Jeanine, who's pretty militant (no offense at ALL Jeanine), most of the people on this list who favor alternatives seem much more tolerant (and more polite and seemingly gentle) than those who espouse western medical treatment. I wonder what we can extrapolate from this? Here's a thought--just a thought--please don't beat me up-- maybe most people who treat themselves with alternatives try harder to protect their sacred bodies by eating less meat products, andtherefore are more gentle (more sattvic than rajasic, in yogic terms), like for example, how plant-eating animals like cows are more gentle than carnivores like lions and tigers.....just something to break the tension. And I'm sure I'll be called a myriad of names after this post, but guess what? I'm not going to let it bother me......... Satya

[ ] Re: a balanced list

Moe - So good to hear you. All of your information makes me feel so good! I'm sure some people scoff and poke fun, but what you say is the real deal and I so appreciate your posting here! I am most certainly going to investigate your methods. Thank you! Karolyn

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee,

>

> I see you answering the same questions over and over. I was wondering

> if creating a FAQ that users would be referred to would help eliminate

> some of the questions. I think it can be a bit overwhelming finding

> your answer by searching the files or previous posts particularly if

> you are new and suffering from brain fog. Just a thought.

==>Yes, you are right Jen. It would save time if I would create a good

FAQ list. It's on my list of things to do.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

Yes we've thought about this before. Problem is it

can be just another thing people don't read. So we've

created a real mini FAQ that should get posted twice

weekly once Bee gets a chance to set it up.

It just has the basics letting people know they need

to read the main candida article, but in the mean time

it points them to a list of the basic foods allowed on

the diet. We tell people if it's not on the list,

don't eat it.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- miltongm0918 <miltongm0918@...> wrote:

> Bee,

>

> I see you answering the same questions over and

> over. I was wondering

> if creating a FAQ that users would be referred to

> would help eliminate

> some of the questions. I think it can be a bit

> overwhelming finding

> your answer by searching the files or previous posts

> particularly if

> you are new and suffering from brain fog. Just a

> thought.

-------------

Most people won't change until the pain of where they are exceeds the pain of

change. Being willing to delay pleasure for a greater result is a sign of

maturity. -- Dave Ramsey

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

Heal yourself with nutrition: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com

[Guest guest]

Please put the raw egg drink on that mini-FAQ???

It was such an easy way to start with us and gave us such hope...

Just a thought...

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your thought is quite a valid one as hip and knee replacements are truly one of the wonders of medicine -- most people can expect to be functionally at quite a high level at their one year anniversary -- of course with significant improvements prior to that.Knee replacement is more painful than hip replacement of course in terms of rehabilitation but my friend who had both knees done last year is now functioning magnificently.ALmost without exception people who have these surgeries ask themselves why they waited so long :)As with anything, buyer beware -- there are great surgeons and not so great surgeons -- although no one can predict complications, I do believe that the choice of OS and hospital will greatly improve one's odds. This weekend I had dinner with a friend and I told her that the day of the surgery I was of course terrified because ANYTHING can happen -- but at least I could be at peace with whatever the outcome because I had done everything possible to ensure that I would have a successful result through my research, choice of doctors and hospital.Of course this doesn't negate negative experiences of some people -- statistically they are not the norm -- which doesn't help if one is a negative statistic.HelenOn May 21, 2007, at 12:52 PM, SueW wrote:On these groups we see a lot of people - some with some seriousproblems. And that's good for people to know all sides and what makesa group like this so important.But sometimes, pre ops can get a one sided view also.I have a friend who had TKR's about 18 months ago. A lady in her60's, I watched her drag her body up steps and just be in a lot ofpain. After her TKR and she had both knees replaced close to eachother, she was kind of not getting around really well (she is fit fromwalking but not a big exercise nut or anything like that). But now,18 months after surgery, she's walking with a bounce that I have NEVERseen in her. I mean walking like a much younger woman. I can describeit on paper (or in electronic blips) but there is nothing quite likeseeing someone who could hardly walk before, who is now walking welland without pain!I also have a cyberfriend who had 2 TKR's. She again had a long rehabbut now, she walks normally and fast, she says, again with no pain. And before her TKR's she was using a wheelchair.I am not disrespecting those who have had problems or beinginsensitive about those problems, and it certainly is good foreveryone to KNOW about the possibility BEFORE surgery because there isalways a risk. But I also think they have improved the procedure alot since my mother had it 40 years ago.And seeing someone (2 someones) go from wheelchair to a normal strideis quite impressive...just ramblings from moi!:)Sue

[Guest guest]

Also think that the PT is just as important as the Dr & hospital. I had

bi-lateral knees and just recently so did a neighbor. Our PT is very, very

different. Me - I can zip up stairs, drive & do just about anything I want

to do. She is having to return to PT, can't bend her knees. Her PT is having

her do some strange exercises and not anything like mine. Realize each

person is different but had also heard that the PT can make a diff. So

please research that right along with all the rest.

Gloria

http://chiaforhealth.com

http://natures-emporium.com

http://geomantha.com

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I agree. Before my TKR I at the point of always using the electric carts to get around Wal-Mart, Target and other stores that had them. I just couldn't walk far without really horrible pain. Some times I would try and then step "wrong" and just about scream from the pain in my joint. I was worn out walking through our house or half a block from home. I have a 5-year-old son who was used to me being slow and "behind" him all his life.

Now, four and a half months out, I still have some pain. Some little soreness, stiffness, muscle/tendon/ligament pain but nothing like it was. I can walk through Wal-Mart. I can walk five blocks to the park. It wears me out a litte, as my stamina isn't what it used to be before the knee wore out but really, it's amazing. I go to the gym three times a week. I willingly get things when I used to send people through the house to get things for me. I expect to be even better at six months and a year.

I know there are some patients with complications but overall I have to say this surgery is so worth it.

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of SueWSent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:53 PMJoint Replacement Subject: just a thought

On these groups we see a lot of people - some with some seriousproblems. And that's good for people to know all sides and what makesa group like this so important.But sometimes, pre ops can get a one sided view also.I have a friend who had TKR's about 18 months ago. A lady in her60's, I watched her drag her body up steps and just be in a lot ofpain. After her TKR and she had both knees replaced close to eachother, she was kind of not getting around really well (she is fit fromwalking but not a big exercise nut or anything like that). But now,18 months after surgery, she's walking with a bounce that I have NEVERseen in her. I mean walking like a much younger woman. I can describeit on paper (or in electronic blips) but there is nothing quite likeseeing someone who could hardly walk before, who is now walking welland without pain!I also have a cyberfriend who had 2 TKR's. She again had a long rehabbut now, she walks normally and fast, she says, again with no pain. And before her TKR's she was using a wheelchair.I am not disrespecting those who have had problems or beinginsensitive about those problems, and it certainly is good foreveryone to KNOW about the possibility BEFORE surgery because there isalways a risk. But I also think they have improved the procedure alot since my mother had it 40 years ago.And seeing someone (2 someones) go from wheelchair to a normal strideis quite impressive...just ramblings from moi!:)Sue

[Guest guest]

"No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We

ourselves must walk the path."Just a little thought from our dearest Buddha Who would think the simplest things in life could ever get so complicated?! :)LOve to all the group

[Guest guest]

Smart fella, that Buddha....here is a more contemporary(relatively) quote, along the same lines....

From what may anyone be saved? Only from themselves! That is, their individual hell; they dig it with their own desires! Edgar Cayce Reading 262-40

with Gratitude and Love

Mark

From: Angel White <angelique_v21@...>Subject: [] Just a thought Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 2:05 PM

"No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path."

Just a little thought from our dearest Buddha Who would think the simplest things in life could ever get so complicated? !

LOve to all the group