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Hugs and love back . I am here to share and heal, not project and ridicule.

I think we all get enough of that from the medical establishment, goverment, and

media. This infestation, infection is controversial enough we do not need

controversy to divide us:)

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> >> > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not

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> >> > > > > > than lyme. Remember this is not medical advice only

> >> > observation

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http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-\

bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx

> >> > > > > > http://abouthealt-h.com/bartonella-henselae

> >> > > > > > http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/213169-overview

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Andraya is saying what I suspected many of us have been infected with lyme and

company. I have grave concerns with levaquin, for treatment of anything.

http://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.asp?drug=20635 & name=LEVAQUIN & sort=gender & p\

age=5 & PerPage=60

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http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-\

bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx

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> > >> > > > > > http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/213169-overview

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Me too and all of you! Always learn so much from everyone.From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 7:32:02 AMSubject: Re: Re: Bartonella

I am proud of and love both Marie and Andraya. I love our group cause we repect each other and agree to disagree, thereby allowing us to put everything we have learned on the table. It is so good to consider all veiw points. Goooooo Group!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love and light,

sarah

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:32 PMSubject: Re: Re: Bartonella

No offense taken at all. I work fairly closely with several LLMDs, 2 local support groups so I've many anecdotals. Still, my personal experience is probably the most powerful when I comes to forming opinions on Lyme treatment. I also co-moderate the WI Lyme Network, we have between 2000-3000 posts a month lately, just added our 4th moderator, and it's by far the most active state group out of all 50 states. That group was a lifesaver for me. I'm on the board of directors of the WI Lyme Network nonprofit. Basically I've seen it all now, multiple times, and now know that MANY 100% recover from Lyme. Those who stick with treatment and a doctor who knows what he's doing do eventually recover, though it seems like it takes forever. Those who don't recover are mpstly the ones who quit treatment, which is easy to do and happens often because the treatment is so challenging and recovery is often

slow with tiny improvements over time. You have to stay the course.

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Aa just my opinion that's all, no offense meant dear. > > > > >> > > > > > I have read the post here for years. Many have lyme. However I> > > > think> > > > > > the co-infection bartonella remains symptomatic for years in> > > > many of> > > > > > us. there are more studies to prove this everyday, also > > studies> > > > > > showing there are numerous strains, and some not identified.> > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not > > more> > > > > > than lyme. Remember this is not medical advice only > > observation> > > > and> > > > > > speculation.> > > > > >

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx> > > > > > http://abouthealt-h.com/bartonella-henselae> > > > > > http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/213169-overview> > > > > > http://www.interamericaninstitute.org/bartonellosis.htm> > > > > > http://www.askdrwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bartonellosis> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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well said Marie.From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 8:36:46 AMSubject: Re: BartonellaHugs and love back . I am here to share and heal, not project and ridicule. I think we all get enough of that from the medical establishment, goverment, and media. This infestation, infection is controversial enough we do not need controversy to divide us:)> >> > > > >> >> > > > > > I have read the post here for years. Many have lyme. However I> >> > > > think> >> > > > > > the co-infection bartonella remains symptomatic for years in> >> > > > many of> >> > > > > > us. there are more studies to prove this everyday, also > >> > studies> >> > > > > > showing there are numerous strains, and some not identified.> >> > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not > >> > more> >> > > > > > than lyme. Remember this is not medical advice only > >> > observation> >> > > > and> >> > > > > > speculation.> >> > > > > > http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx> >> > > > > > http://abouthealt-h.com/bartonella-henselae> >> > > > > > http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/213169-overview> >> > > > > > http://www.interamericaninstitute.org/bartonellosis.htm> >> > > > > > http://www.askdrwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bartonellosis> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>------------------------------------

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This groups is the best, love and hugs:) And thanks out to Tim:)

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> > > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not

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http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-\

bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx

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> > > > > > > http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/213169-overview

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I have concerns about Leviquin for me as well because I already have terrible tendinitis and carpal tunnel syndorme. Had surgery on the right hand in 2005. CPS only got maybe 30% better post sx. It has been terrible in the last month (both hands, but could be coming from the neck level or elbows). In addition, I've found that taking certain supplements increases die off and the carpal tunnel gets worse during those times. For me it is good to be cautious and intuitively and if I feel it might possibly be hard for the body, I need to follow my intuition about it. Dr. M had concerns for me about using Levaquin for same reasons... but I'll have another conversation about that tomorrow. I have nerve conduction studies (NCS) done once again on Tuesday of neck to hands on both sides and a MRI of neck area on Friday. February I see hand surgeon. Last MRI of neck showed disc bulge - but no spinal stenosis. TYG. Have bad low back too, but it is doing better right now. We are all very unique physically... no two of us are identical or with the same medical problems.From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:32:08 AMSubject: Re: BartonellaAndraya is saying what I suspected many of us have been infected with lyme and company. I have grave concerns with levaquin, for treatment of anything. http://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.asp?drug=20635 & name=LEVAQUIN & sort=gender & page=5 & PerPage=60--- In bird mites , "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote:>> Hugs and love back . I am here to share and heal, not project and ridicule. I think we all get enough of that from the medical establishment, goverment, and media. This infestation, infection is controversial enough we do not need controversy to divide us:)> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > I have read the post here for years. Many have lyme. However I> > >> > > > think> > >> > > > > > the co-infection bartonella remains symptomatic for years in> > >> > > > many of> > >> > > > > > us. there are more studies to prove this everyday, also > > >> > studies> > >> > > > > > showing there are numerous strains, and some not identified.> > >> > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not > > >> > more> > >> > > > > > than lyme. Remember this is not medical advice only > > >> > observation> > >> > > > and> > >> > > > > > speculation.> > >> > > > > > http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx> > >> > > > > > http://abouthealt-h.com/bartonella-henselae> > >> > > > > > http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/213169-overview> > >> > > > > > http://www.interamericaninstitute.org/bartonellosis.htm> > >> > > > > > http://www.askdrwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bartonellosis> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> > >> > >> >>------------------------------------

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Hear hear!!! Xx

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On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 08:36 PST healinghope wrote:

>Hugs and love back . I am here to share and heal, not project and

ridicule. I think we all get enough of that from the medical establishment,

goverment, and media. This infestation, infection is controversial enough we do

not need controversy to divide us:)

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>> > > > > > > the co-infection bartonella remains symptomatic for years in

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>> > > > > > > us. there are more studies to prove this everyday, also

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>> > > > > > > showing there are numerous strains, and some not identified.

>> > > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not

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>> > > > > > > than lyme. Remember this is not medical advice only

>> > > observation

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>> > > > > > > speculation.

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http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-\

bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx

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Agree we are all different, one treatment for all has never held true.

hope you find some comfort. I know what you describe, very painful, and

debilitating.

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> > > >> > > > think

> > > >> > > > > > the co-infection bartonella remains symptomatic for years in

> > > >> > > > many of

> > > >> > > > > > us. there are more studies to prove this everyday, also

> > > >> > studies

> > > >> > > > > > showing there are numerous strains, and some not identified.

> > > >> > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not

> > > >> > more

> > > >> > > > > > than lyme. Remember this is not medical advice only

> > > >> > observation

> > > >> > > > and

> > > >> > > > > > speculation.

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http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-\

bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx

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> > > >> > > > > > http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/213169-overview

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I know you know just what I am talking about Marie. Surgical interventions don't always cure 100% either.. it is hard to be in a sick aging body. I know people who have it worse than I do. Hope you are doing ok with the thoracic outlet issues. Hope you can keep up your farm and the remaining animals. I don't know how you do it!From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:45:28 AMSubject: Re: BartonellaAgree we are all different, one treatment for all has never held true. hope you find some comfort. I know what you describe, very painful, and debilitating. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I have read the post here for years. Many have lyme. However I > > > >> > > > think > > > >> > > > > > the co-infection bartonella remains symptomatic for years in > > > >> > > > many of > > > >> > > > > > us. there are more studies to prove this everyday, also > > > >> > studies > > > >> > > > > > showing there are numerous strains, and some not identified. > > > >> > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not > > > >> > more > > > >> > > > > > than lyme. Remember this is not medical advice only > > > >> > observation > > > >> > > > and > > > >> > > > > > speculation. > > > >> > > > > > http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx > > > >> > > > > > http://abouthealt-h.com/bartonella-henselae > > > >> > > > > > http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/213169-overview > > > >> > > > > > http://www.interamericaninstitute.org/bartonellosis.htm > > > >> > > > > > http://www.askdrwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bartonellosis > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > >

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I can hardly keep up the laundry and cooking let alone a farm.From: Goldstein@...To: bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:49:45 AMSubject: Re: Re: Bartonella

I know you know just what I am talking about Marie. Surgical interventions don't always cure 100% either.. it is hard to be in a sick aging body. I know people who have it worse than I do. Hope you are doing ok with the thoracic outlet issues. Hope you can keep up your farm and the remaining animals. I don't know how you do it!From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:45:28 AMSubject: Re: BartonellaAgree we are all different, one treatment for all has never held true. hope you find some comfort. I know what you describe, very painful, and debilitating. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I have read the post here for years. Many have lyme. However I > > > >> > > > think > > > >> > > > > > the co-infection bartonella remains symptomatic for years in > > > >> > > > many of > > > >> > > > > > us. there are more studies to prove this everyday, also > > > >> > studies > > > >> > > > > > showing there are numerous strains, and some not identified. > > > >> > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not > > > >> > more > > > >> > > > > > than lyme. Remember this is not medical advice only > > > >> > observation > > > >> > > > and > > > >> > > > > > speculation. > > > >> > > > > > http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx > > > >> > > > > > http://abouthealt-h.com/bartonella-henselae > > > >> > > > > > http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/213169-overview > > > >> > > > > > http://www.interamericaninstitute.org/bartonellosis.htm > > > >> > > > > > http://www.askdrwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bartonellosis > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > >

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Sorry linda that u have to deal wi all that!x

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On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 10:45 PST healinghope wrote:

>Agree we are all different, one treatment for all has never held true.

hope you find some comfort. I know what you describe, very painful, and

debilitating.

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>> > > > > > > > > the co-infection bartonella remains symptomatic for years in

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>> > > > > > > > > us. there are more studies to prove this everyday, also

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>> > > > > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not

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http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-\

bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx

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On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 10:50 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>I can hardly keep up the laundry and cooking let alone a farm.

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>Agree we are all different, one treatment for all has never held true.

hope you find some comfort. I know what you describe, very painful, and

debilitating.

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>> > > > > > > > > I have read the post here for years. Many have lyme. However

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>> > > > > > > think

>> > > > > > > > > the co-infection bartonella remains symptomatic for years in

>> > > > > > > many of

>> > > > > > > > > us. there are more studies to prove this everyday, also

>> > > > > studies

>> > > > > > > > > showing there are numerous strains, and some not identified.

>> > > > > > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not

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>> > > > > > > > > than lyme. Remember this is not medical advice only

>> > > > > observation

>> > > > > > > and

>> > > > > > > > > speculation.

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http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-\

bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx

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Some of the prices on these meds are outrageous. Makes me so grateful for my insurance. So far they have covered all my meds, this is not the case for many.AandrayaOn Jan 30, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

My lord linda!

Itraconazole 450 dollars a month

Unbelievable!

Would it not be worth taking floconazole on a week?

And teaspoon extra virgin olive oil( helps any inflamation in the body n oleic acid is an anti fungal

Also teaspoon a night of caster oil ( kills internal parasites and has anti fungal properties)

I took fluconazole few days ago,think helped a bit

Its very cheap to buy on internet

But tryin wi caster oil,olive oil,probiotics,acidophilus yogurt,banderol has anti fungal properties too.

Short of doing a song and dance routine in the street wont aford much more!:-)

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On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 20:36 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>Thanks Aandraya. I'll ask Dr. M about that tomorrow and see what she says. Cost is an issue for me too darn it. I could deal with $80 a month for Rifampin, but don't know about the other drugs she will prescribe. I did find an online company that I could get itraconazole for about $450 a month, so will talk to her about that. Our income is not that high.

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>> > > > > the co-infection bartonella remains symptomatic for years in

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>> > > > > showing there are numerous strains, and some not identified.

>> > > > > Isolating bartonella and testing for is as difficult if not more

>> > > > > than lyme. Remember this is not medical advice only observation

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>> > > > > speculation.

>> > > > > http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/01/13/recognising-bartonellosis-or-cat-scratch-disease-in-pets.aspx

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Some of my friends buy the more expensive meds from Canadian pharmacies, and one friend is getting some from Mexico. Shouldn't have to come to that but it has. AaOn Jan 30, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

My lord linda!

Itraconazole 450 dollars a month

Unbelievable!

Would it not be worth taking floconazole on a week?

And teaspoon extra virgin olive oil( helps any inflamation in the body n oleic acid is an anti fungal

Also teaspoon a night of caster oil ( kills internal parasites and has anti fungal properties)

I took fluconazole few days ago,think helped a bit

Its very cheap to buy on internet

But tryin wi caster oil,olive oil,probiotics,acidophilus yogurt,banderol has anti fungal properties too.

Short of doing a song and dance routine in the street wont aford much more!:-)

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>Thanks Aandraya. I'll ask Dr. M about that tomorrow and see what she says. Cost is an issue for me too darn it. I could deal with $80 a month for Rifampin, but don't know about the other drugs she will prescribe. I did find an online company that I could get itraconazole for about $450 a month, so will talk to her about that. Our income is not that high.

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Hi Aandraya! I agree... even Costco which is usually less $, charges an arm and a leg for many of these prescriptions. I did order today from pharmacychecker.com (2 different online companies) so it will still be a week or so before I get my meds. I'm anxiously awaiting. Will have my first bicillin shot by Dr. M next Wednesday. Not looking forward to it as you can imagine. Started on double Doxy and back on Rifampin too. Still getting tons of black specks off body, hands, a real purge. Not feeling very good since I doubled the Doxy and started back on Rifampin. It will get worse I think after the bicillin. Can't wait for the fungal meds to arrive.How are you feeling?From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:14:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Bartonella

Some of the prices on these meds are outrageous. Makes me so grateful for my insurance. So far they have covered all my meds, this is not the case for many.AandrayaOn Jan 30, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

My lord linda!

Itraconazole 450 dollars a month

Unbelievable!

Would it not be worth taking floconazole on a week?

And teaspoon extra virgin olive oil( helps any inflamation in the body n oleic acid is an anti fungal

Also teaspoon a night of caster oil ( kills internal parasites and has anti fungal properties)

I took fluconazole few days ago,think helped a bit

Its very cheap to buy on internet

But tryin wi caster oil,olive oil,probiotics,acidophilus yogurt,banderol has anti fungal properties too.

Short of doing a song and dance routine in the street wont aford much more!:-)

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On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 20:36 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>Thanks Aandraya. I'll ask Dr. M about that tomorrow and see what she says. Cost is an issue for me too darn it. I could deal with $80 a month for Rifampin, but don't know about the other drugs she will prescribe. I did find an online company that I could get itraconazole for about $450 a month, so will talk to her about that. Our income is not that high.

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