Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 Yeah I read somewhere that CFS maybe linked to a heart virus (hhv-6?) but whatever the case I have heard of ppl with the heart problems, plus heart disease is the #1 killer in the US and I dont think that doc's usually say CFIDS was the cause of death. One of them things that makes you go hmmmmmmmmm actually myself I was going to be in some research study and then my heart started skipping beats on the treadmill but when I came back it was 'ok' so they told me but I never really got a holter monitor or anything so I am not so sure what the status is of that but probably not good check out this site: www.ccid.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 , Your heartfelt message of struggle with your disease is not inappropriate in my opinion. Blinding ourselves to the unpleasant and inconvenient by only acknowledging the positive is not the solution in healthcare or in any other area of life. What strikes me in thinking about the fleeting nature of this life is: healthy or not, this life is very short in comparison to our eternal existance as spiritual beings. Concentrating on your spiritual existence as well as the physical aspect of your being would help you to put the present, with all of its great problems, into perspective. I can unresearvedly recommend the greatest book of all time, written by our Creator through human instruments, the Holy Bible. Therein lies the answers to who we are, why we are, and what we will be for all of eternity. A right relation to God, which can only be obtained through faith in His son Jesus Christ, is the only way to have lasting peace and steadfast confidence both in this life and more importantly the next. He gives His creatures purpose, direction, and assurance that everything will be alright in His own way and in His time. The Lord Bless You with a successful journey through this life, Vince Richter <snip> >Can any one recommend any books on helping wounding spirits to hang on, be >a >fighter, and to appreciate life. I know a lot of us are just so tired of >struggling and having one big obstacle after another that we want to give >up, >then a little light comes in now and then to save us and we want to live >again. <snip> >Would love to hear comments and open all views on these subjects. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 <He gives His creatures purpose, direction, and assurance that everything will be alright in His own way and in His time.> Fighting off a terrible anxiety attack today this thought is exaclty what helped me, I totally agree that only my faith and surrender can help me. I think the timing of your post confirming this belief is helping my faith again. Still not sure of my direction and what tomorrow will bring I know that my comfort lies in the grace of God. Thank you for not holding back your response, you are truly a giving person, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 Thank you for sharing this, . Vince Richter >From: " " <catlucent@...> > <He gives His creatures purpose, direction, and assurance that >everything will be alright in His own way and in His time.> > >Fighting off a terrible anxiety attack today this thought is exaclty >what helped me, I totally agree that only my faith and surrender >can help me. >I think the timing of your post confirming this belief is helping my >faith again. Still not sure of my direction and what tomorrow will >bring I know that my comfort lies in the grace of God. >Thank you for not holding back your response, you are truly a >giving person, > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 I agree with Vince. In my darkest moments, I read the book of Job out loud to myself, and cried a lot. It gave me peace. Leo ----------------------------------------------- > , > Your heartfelt message of struggle with your disease is not inappropriate in > my opinion. Blinding ourselves to the unpleasant and inconvenient by only > acknowledging the positive is not the solution in healthcare or in any other > area of life. What strikes me in thinking about the fleeting nature of this > life is: healthy or not, this life is very short in comparison to our > eternal existance as spiritual beings. Concentrating on your spiritual > existence as well as the physical aspect of your being would help you to put > the present, with all of its great problems, into perspective. I can > unresearvedly recommend the greatest book of all time, written by our > Creator through human instruments, the Holy Bible. Therein lies the answers > to who we are, why we are, and what we will be for all of eternity. A right > relation to God, which can only be obtained through faith in His son Jesus > Christ, is the only way to have lasting peace and steadfast confidence both > in this life and more importantly the next. He gives His creatures purpose, > direction, and assurance that everything will be alright in His own way and > in His time. > > The Lord Bless You with a successful journey through this life, > > Vince Richter > > <snip> > >Can any one recommend any books on helping wounding spirits to hang on, be > >a > >fighter, and to appreciate life. I know a lot of us are just so tired of > >struggling and having one big obstacle after another that we want to give > >up, > >then a little light comes in now and then to save us and we want to live > >again. > <snip> > >Would love to hear comments and open all views on these subjects. > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 I should have added, I prayed a lot too, out loud. Leo ----------------------------------------------- > > , > > Your heartfelt message of struggle with your disease is not > inappropriate in > > my opinion. Blinding ourselves to the unpleasant and inconvenient > by only > > acknowledging the positive is not the solution in healthcare or in > any other > > area of life. What strikes me in thinking about the fleeting nature > of this > > life is: healthy or not, this life is very short in comparison to > our > > eternal existance as spiritual beings. Concentrating on your > spiritual > > existence as well as the physical aspect of your being would help > you to put > > the present, with all of its great problems, into perspective. I > can > > unresearvedly recommend the greatest book of all time, written by > our > > Creator through human instruments, the Holy Bible. Therein lies the > answers > > to who we are, why we are, and what we will be for all of eternity. > A right > > relation to God, which can only be obtained through faith in His son > Jesus > > Christ, is the only way to have lasting peace and steadfast > confidence both > > in this life and more importantly the next. He gives His creatures > purpose, > > direction, and assurance that everything will be alright in His own > way and > > in His time. > > > > The Lord Bless You with a successful journey through this life, > > > > Vince Richter > > > > <snip> > > >Can any one recommend any books on helping wounding spirits to hang > on, be > > >a > > >fighter, and to appreciate life. I know a lot of us are just so > tired of > > >struggling and having one big obstacle after another that we want > to give > > >up, > > >then a little light comes in now and then to save us and we want to > live > > >again. > > <snip> > > >Would love to hear comments and open all views on these subjects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 Hello, I read your post and there is something that can really help in this area. It is a parasite zapper. <A HREF= " http://www.wave.net/upg/zapper/pararep.htm " >Zapper Research Report</A> click on this and read this. Also read www.wave.net/upg/zapper The zapper has been known to really help in this area. The man that has this zapper ( Saids he always thought that life was bad and he used this zapper and suddenly got happy again. Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:21:03 EST, catlucent@... wrote in <b8.119edeca.27b58f0f@...>: >Can any one recommend any books on helping wounding spirits to hang on, be a >fighter, and to appreciate life. I know a lot of us are just so tired of >struggling and having one big obstacle after another that we want to give up, >then a little light comes in now and then to save us and we want to live >again. Being on an HIV egroup, I read so many posts of how many people are >just so fed up and tired and their will to live is lessening. I am at a point >that all I need is just one little set back to make me give up so fast. It >feels almost like I am possessed and that dark side is ready to take over and >I will give it strength cause it is easier than fighting it. Dear , I am working with spiritual techniques for many years, and my first recommendation is to learn this: YOU ARE NOT YOUR BODY. I have met lots of people who have lived more than one time (of course there is no general rule), and who have learned to treat their body as a different entity from themselves, the eternal unit of consciousness called a soul. As long as your physical conditions allows it, try to understand what all these experiences are teaching you! Read up on Karma, a kind of self-inflicted justice, and try to find " your theme " , the read thread which goes through this lifetime and connects the events. See that you pay all your debts, whether physical or spiritual, and tell your loved ones all the things which you maybe wanted to tell them but couldn't find the courage to tell. And most important: Make up your mind what you really want to do in a human life - what you want to experience, to create, to tell or to teach! You should see these things as a 3-dimensional vision with sight, sound, smell and all the other ingredients that make up real life. Repeat this over and over - it's the most powerful way of creating reality. I don't say " just give up and die " . But if you are at peace with the possibility of dying and are certain of your perspective and goals as a human being, in this body or maybe another one (there are non-human forms of existence too), then you have no negative energy in your space which would depress the immune system and reduce the amount and quality of your life force. This is then an ideal situation to do health-work which is as intense and intelligent as possible. But make sure that you also CREATE something, as long as your body will cooperate. Find your personal favourite art-form, or become a drug-consultant, work for Amnesty International, Greenpeace or another constructive movement which appeals to you. The creative powers set free this way are the most potent carrier wave for any healing work that exists. With all my best wishes, Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2001 Report Share Posted February 11, 2001 wrote (among other things):>...will to live is lessening. I am at a point > that all I need is just one little >set back to make me give up sofast. It > feels almost like I am possessed and that dark side is ready totake over...> On the positive side , please inventory the Dr protocols you have tried, the ones you are currently trying, and the ones you plan to try in the future. As regards your spirits, please inventory the books you have studied (not like reading ones favorite novel or magazine) with pen and personal journal paper ready. Additionally, for the edification of this group, please list the Dr. approved equipment you have and the length of time you have been using it on a daily basis. Finally, list the audio tapes, videos, seminars, URL's, locations and other sources you have studied regarding your quest for HIV cure. What would a fly on the walls of your living soul say to the quality (if not quantity) of these inventories? (Especially the results of the Saliva Test service)? '...its darkest before dawn...', so please, press on ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2001 Report Share Posted February 11, 2001 Whoever wrote this, just what is positive about this and how does this help ? Leo ------------------------------------------------ > wrote (among other things):>...will to live is lessening. I am at a point > that all I need is just one little >set back to make me give up sofast. It > feels almost like I am possessed and that dark side is ready totake over...> > > On the positive side , please inventory the Dr protocols you have tried, the ones you are currently trying, and the ones you plan to try in the future. > > As regards your spirits, please inventory the books you have studied (not like reading ones favorite novel or magazine) with pen and personal journal paper ready. > > Additionally, for the edification of this group, please list the Dr. approved equipment you have and the length of time you have been using it on a daily basis. > > Finally, list the audio tapes, videos, seminars, URL's, locations and other sources you have studied regarding your quest for HIV cure. > > What would a fly on the walls of your living soul say to the quality (if not quantity) of these inventories? (Especially the results of the Saliva Test service)? > > '...its darkest before dawn...', so please, press on ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2001 Report Share Posted February 11, 2001 Connie, I clicked on the URL below, and couldn't open it. Are you suggesting that a parasite zapper might make " happy again " ? Leo ---------------------------------- > Hello, I read your post and there is something that can really help in this > area. It is a parasite zapper. <A > HREF= " http://www.wave.net/upg/zapper/pararep.htm " >Zapper Research Report</A> > click on this and read this. Also read www.wave.net/upg/zapper The > zapper has been known to really help in this area. The man that has this > zapper ( Saids he always thought that life was bad and he used this zapper > and suddenly got happy again. > Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2001 Report Share Posted February 12, 2001 Hi Leo, I clicked on the url and it came up with no problem. Here are two quotes from the site: " The morning after the evening that I first zapped I was suddenly overwhelmed by a feeling of euphoria which I couldn’t explain, especially since I was trying unsuccessfully to recover emotionally from a divorce. After a few minutes I made the connection between the zapper and what I had heard Dr. Hulda (its inventor) say during a taped lecture about the connection between depression and brain parasites. " and " HIV/AIDS I learned very early in my zapper experience that AIDS sufferers are very difficult to find and generally not friendly to strangers. One woman who had been suffering with it for ten years found me by word of mouth and bought a zapper. A couple of months later I called her in New York to see how she was doing and she told me she had been completely free of symptoms for over a month and was back at work as a choreographer, feeling extremely well. " So, the site purports that their could be a direct connection between parasites and depression and/or AIDS. I'm totally sold on zapping. Both my wife and I have felt better than we have in many years and are definately happier. However, I have a question about this Don Croft zapper advertised on this page. It uses a zapper with the circuit but with the electrodes only incles apart. That would seem to me to be the least effective way to zap. What do you think about the electrode spacing issue while zapping Leo and list? Vince Richter >From: leoelfie@... >Reply-Dr >Dr >Subject: Re: From the heart >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:29:32 -0000 > >Connie, I clicked on the URL below, and couldn't open it. Are you >suggesting that a parasite zapper might make " happy again " ? >Leo >---------------------------------- > > > Hello, I read your post and there is something that can really help >in this > > area. It is a parasite zapper. <A > > HREF= " http://www.wave.net/upg/zapper/pararep.htm " >Zapper Research >Report</A> > > click on this and read this. Also read www.wave.net/upg/zapper > The > > zapper has been known to really help in this area. The man that has >this > > zapper ( Saids he always thought that life was bad and he used this >zapper > > and suddenly got happy again. > > Connie > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2001 Report Share Posted February 12, 2001 > Whoever wrote this, just what is positive about this and how does this > help ?> Leo Hi Leo its me, Marve! I thought may have overlooked something she may have done, or see something that still needs to be done... . As often as I get depressed I have found great success with getting back on track by 'coordinating my position'. Let's suppose someone is distressed because they are lost in the forests. Well, many a story has a happy (positive) ending when that someone finds a clue to tell them either where they are, where they've been, or even where they are going!Many of the case histories in all of Dr. 's books mention people who have taken ALMOST all of the steps necessary to procure a cure. I would think that would benenfit (positively speaking) from a complete reassessment of her predicament --- spiritually, of course, but lets not exclude the obvious: restoring her body to its previous state of perfect health. By the way, the aforementioned site about zappers is: http://www.wave.net/upg/zapper/pararep.htm Marve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2001 Report Share Posted February 12, 2001 Did you change your ISP? Leo --------------------------------- > Whoever wrote this, just what is positive about this and how does this > help ?> Leo > > Hi Leo its me, Marve! > > I thought may have overlooked something she may have done, or see something that still needs to be done... . > > As often as I get depressed I have found great success with getting back on track by 'coordinating my position'. > > Let's suppose someone is distressed because they are lost in the forests. Well, many a story has a happy (positive) ending when that someone finds a clue to tell them either where they are, where they've been, or even where they are going!Many of the case histories in all of Dr. 's books mention people who have taken ALMOST all of the steps necessary to procure a cure. > > I would think that would benenfit (positively speaking) from a complete reassessment of her predicament --- spiritually, of course, but lets not exclude the obvious: restoring her body to its previous state of perfect health. > > By the way, the aforementioned site about zappers is: > > http://www.wave.net/upg/zapper/pararep.htm > > Marve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2001 Report Share Posted February 12, 2001 The spacing mentioned in the (long) Zapper article just posted, apparently doesn't seem to matter.I took the time to read all of the site materials, and if what he says is true, spacing is apparently not an issue, and the zapper is gaining popularity. I for one have been zapping for years, and have recently ordered the Nimbus water maker from the Dr. site. (Because THAT zapper article said one should be sure to also drink water that has a much higher resistance than what is currently available... so as to help the system rid itself of dead parasites). This spacing thing, it kind of reminds me (a senior electrical engineering drop out) what my mom would often say as I grew up: " Make sure you grab a piece of dry wood when working around electricity... " Well, she was right! Or put academically 'keep one hand in your pocket when testing a live circuit'! Similarly, the zapper is unconventional technology that works, but like the nature of the universe, its EXACT operation is at best, speculative. Marve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Liane, i cannot express fully the gratitude I feel for you posting this. You posted it on a day that for me, events of the past had been dug up and I was filled with anger and hatred for someone. Your post humbled me when I read it, i am ashamed at what i was feeling for the person concerned. You have opened my eyes and heart and I thank you so much for doing this. I have to take a step to forgive the other person, for if i dont that anger and hatred will always be there. I will never move forward. Thank you. Thank you for your shining words sent in a time of blackness. You are an inspiration. all my lovbe dina > > Country musician Butch Hancock noted, “Life in Lubbock , Texas , > taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you’re going to burn in > hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you > should save it for someone you love.†> > We have all received confusing and contradictory messages from religion > and other authority figures about sin and forgiveness. We have been told > that we have sinned terribly and we need to do all kinds of things to avoid > burning in hell or inheriting devastating karma. Yet there is another way to > look at sin and forgiveness that leaves us empowered to heal. > > *A Course in Miracles *tells us that we have not sinned as religions > would have us believe. We have simply made lots of errors. A sin, the *Course > *explains, requires punishment. An error requires but correction. The > primary source of correction is not so much through action, but through a > shift in perception. We need to see ourselves, our lives, and our supposed > sins through the lens of higher consciousness in order to heal them. > > My friend Alden was an avid student and practitioner of *A Course in > Miracles, *which places a strong emphasis on forgiveness.* *The > *Course*suggests that we forgive most powerfully by demonstrating to > others that the > “sin†for which they feel guilty has not caused the damage they perceive, > and thus relieve them of suffering, along with ourselves. We show others > that our happiness is subject to our own choice, not their behavior. > > One day while I was visiting Alden’s city, I signed up to receive a > massage. The massage therapist had agreed to drive me after the massage to a > meeting point where Alden was to pick me up and take me to my next > appointment. During the massage I fell asleep and did not awaken for a while > after the massage was over. When the massage therapist drove me to the site > where I was to meet Alden, he had given up waiting for me and gone home. I > felt pretty bad about putting him out and not showing up. > > When I saw Alden the next day I apologized profusely for > inconveniencing him. His response surprised me: “That’s all right ... Do you > need a ride anywhere today?†Alden was putting the *Course in Miracles *lesson > into action by demonstrating to me that the sin that I believed hurt him had > no effect. To say the least, I felt relieved and healed about the matter. > > Another person in Alden’s position might have chosen a more worldly > response and, offended that I did not keep my appointment, not bothered to > help me out again. But Alden chose the high road, and that brought me > release that has inspired me to try to offer the same to others. > > The real blessing of releasing someone for the “sin†you held against > them is that you release yourself along with them. If you are a jailer > keeping someone in prison, you have to sit at the door of their cell to make > sure they do not escape. Meanwhile, you are in prison all the while they > are. Practically speaking, if you hold a grudge against someone, you are in > more pain than they are. They may be out playing tennis and having fun, > while you are stewing. So who is suffering? Resentment is a far greater > punishment to the one resenting than the object of the resentment. Forgive, > not for the other person’s benefit, but your own. > > * **A Course in Miracles *further tells us that whenever you hold an > emotional or physical pain, your underlying goal is to make someone else > guilty. You are projecting the statement, “Behold me, at your hand I die.†> If the other person accepts the guilt you lay, that is up to them. > Meanwhile, you suffer. The antidote to your pain and theirs is to make the > statement, verbally or energetically, “Behold me, at your hand I live.†> Demonstrate through word and deed why the people in your life are > empowering, life-giving blessings to you. When you do, you accomplish two > supremely important goals: 1. You give them life. 2. You give yourself life. > > The concept of sin has been terribly distorted and mangled from its > original meaning by people who did not understand it, felt guilty, and tried > to relieve themselves of pain by projecting guilt onto others. Sin means > simply a sense of separation from God, and the acts that result from such a > sense. We are not really separate from God, but we believe we are, so we do > things that hurt others and ourselves as a result of our error in > consciousness. The correction of sin has nothing to do with behavior, and > everything to do with correcting the beliefs that lead to aberrant behavior. > What you do that causes pain is less important than the pain that caused you > to do it. If you can heal your sense of separateness from God by remembering > that God lives within you, through you, and as you, and you are never > outside of love’s embrace, you would never do anything that could be > interpreted as sinful. > > So the sins you believe you have committed are simply errors which can > be corrected by seeing yourself and others as sinless. Now that sure works > out better for most of us than burning in hell forever. > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > * > ------------------------------ > Alan Cohen is the author of many popular inspirational books, including *I > Had it All the Time.* Alan has recently inaugurated All About U., a > university without walls for people without limits. For more information on > All About U., Alan’s free inspirational quote program, or his daily Wisdom > for Today lessons via email, visit www.alancohen.com, email > info@..., or phone 800-568-3079.* > ------------------------------ > > <http://www.lightworks.com/MonthlyAspectarian/index.html> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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