Re: Question to the group: What is up with Bishop? My two cents

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for doing this!  I have been wondering the same things--- and her writings have progressively gotten more and more depressed sounding with a heavy dose of Service to Self--- the last posting I just deleted.  It felt like fallacy to me.  I wondered if her connection has been hijacked and she is unaware of it.  At any rate, her take on ascension does not ring true for me.  I believe that we all can get along irregardless of our level of awareness.

--elizabethOn Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Humanity H <liane@...> wrote:

 

 Question to the group: What is up with Bishop? My two cents Those are excerpts of the new wings:

" * You no longer have a desire to heal others, bring up the vibration of the planet, teach new ways

of being, read spiritual materials, meditate, SAVE anything or anyone,

or participate in anything that has a spiritual intent.I believe  , like other  channels are committing the mistake to evaluate and judge their own feeling as the feeling of others. She has been having her trials and she translate her feeling wide and abroad, this way many that do not know how to translate their feelings imediatly absorb as a reality.

 

The planet has now reached a new level. Your job is over( Now she  declares that based on what? so she can speak for everyone's Sacred contract?, who is to say that we reached the critical mass of collective ascension? I sincerely do not believe this would be a statement of Archangel ). And even

before this new level was reached, after each of us reaches a certain

level of frequency within, we are now ready to lose that old purpose

and get a real life. This means that we do not need to speak about

spiritual matters, we do not need to read about them, and we do not

need to learn anything new. We come to know that being spiritual occurs

very naturally 24/7. We are then simply being spiritual without having

an intent to do so. Having an intent places us outside of our center

and also comes from an old ego stance.(She should evaluate this on herself)

 

Saving others or meddling with intentional desires to help others

when not asked, is also very out of alignment with being an Earth

Angel. Spontaneously offering spiritual guidance or messages to others

fits in this category as well. There is one exception to all of this

and it has to do with our store-fronts. Because our store-fronts exist

on the dimensional border, and not in the old reality, they will serve

to assist others in getting to the next plateau, or to the other side.

In this way, we will be asked for assistance, and those asking will be

poised and ready to receive what they need through our store-fronts.

 

* You are so tired and weary of the old reality, that you do not

care about anything anymore and simply give up with disappointment,

exhaustion, apathy, and what feels like depression with a strong desire

not to be here anymore. You think that nothing will EVER change. You

are beyond discouraged.(Her internal voice speaking again)

 

You are now ready to be in the eye of the storm. You are now ready

to leave the old behind. You needed to not care about what is happening

elsewhere, as what is happening elsewhere no longer has anything to do

with you. You had not yet realized that you had " died " and crossed over

into a new reality. You were still hanging around in the old world and

believing it was your world and about you. The outside, or old world,

had to become so unpleasant that you would be willing to let it go. It

felt acutely unpleasant, as you no longer belong there because you have

died and are now being re-born. "  This is very funny, Her message has been in frank degradation progressively, this is absolutely everything I abhor in spiritual fallacies:  WE are all one, and of course I do care what is happening somewhere else. What happens  to someone in the other side of the wold affects me, like the subtle wings of that tiny butterfly on the Amazon that can affect the intensities of Hurricanes in the golf of Mexico.

This is the most ridiculous message  I ever read from her, and it is just filled with the buzz words feel good type.I am very much disapointed on her speech, and it does not surprise me that she  dedicated  an entire paragraph about   respect from others.

 What is you opinion about this, does anyone question those statements, I think they are doing a disfavor to all, except herself.Love and respect to all, Liane 

[Guest guest]

. I am far from ascended. I work on that though, trying to do my best not to give a heavy dose of Service to Self. What you say makes sense. I do want to know if people who have been enlightened then are tested and we are also at the idea they are tested-- especially if they don't know it. Those people I believe need love and light as we all do. I do lately. I am grateful I have this group to write to and read even if I am not the best member or devoted enough. Thank you for reading my words. And I send love and light, thanking lianne for posting the cutting of negative ethereal cords. Namaste Elaine. From: elizabeth hoover <fairyfarmgirl@...> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:01:09 PMSubject: Re: [] Question to the group: What is up with Bishop? My two cents

Thank you so much for doing this! I have been wondering the same things--- and her writings have progressively gotten more and more depressed sounding with a heavy dose of Service to Self--- the last posting I just deleted. It felt like fallacy to me. I wondered if her connection has been hijacked and she is unaware of it. At any rate, her take on ascension does not ring true for me. I believe that we all can get along irregardless of our level of awareness.

--elizabethOn Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Humanity H <liane@humanityheali ng.net> wrote:

Question to the group: What is up with Bishop? My two cents Those are excerpts of the new wings:

"* You no longer have a desire to heal others, bring up the vibration of the planet, teach new ways

of being, read spiritual materials, meditate, SAVE anything or anyone,

or participate in anything that has a spiritual intent.I believe , like other channels are committing the mistake to evaluate and judge their own feeling as the feeling of others. She has been having her trials and she translate her feeling wide and abroad, this way many that do not know how to translate their feelings imediatly absorb as a reality.

The planet has now reached a new level. Your job is over( Now she declares that based on what? so she can speak for everyone's Sacred contract?, who is to say that we reached the critical mass of collective ascension? I sincerely do not believe this would be a statement of Archangel ). And even

before this new level was reached, after each of us reaches a certain

level of frequency within, we are now ready to lose that old purpose

and get a real life. This means that we do not need to speak about

spiritual matters, we do not need to read about them, and we do not

need to learn anything new. We come to know that being spiritual occurs

very naturally 24/7. We are then simply being spiritual without having

an intent to do so. Having an intent places us outside of our center

and also comes from an old ego stance.(She should evaluate this on herself)

Saving others or meddling with intentional desires to help others

when not asked, is also very out of alignment with being an Earth

Angel. Spontaneously offering spiritual guidance or messages to others

fits in this category as well. There is one exception to all of this

and it has to do with our store-fronts. Because our store-fronts exist

on the dimensional border, and not in the old reality, they will serve

to assist others in getting to the next plateau, or to the other side.

In this way, we will be asked for assistance, and those asking will be

poised and ready to receive what they need through our store-fronts.

* You are so tired and weary of the old reality, that you do not

care about anything anymore and simply give up with disappointment,

exhaustion, apathy, and what feels like depression with a strong desire

not to be here anymore. You think that nothing will EVER change. You

are beyond discouraged.(Her internal voice speaking again)

You are now ready to be in the eye of the storm. You are now ready

to leave the old behind. You needed to not care about what is happening

elsewhere, as what is happening elsewhere no longer has anything to do

with you. You had not yet realized that you had "died" and crossed over

into a new reality. You were still hanging around in the old world and

believing it was your world and about you. The outside, or old world,

had to become so unpleasant that you would be willing to let it go.. It

felt acutely unpleasant, as you no longer belong there because you have

died and are now being re-born." This is very funny, Her message has been in frank degradation progressively, this is absolutely everything I abhor in spiritual fallacies: WE are all one, and of course I do care what is happening somewhere else. What happens to someone in the other side of the wold affects me, like the subtle wings of that tiny butterfly on the Amazon that can affect the intensities of Hurricanes in the golf of Mexico.

This is the most ridiculous message I ever read from her, and it is just filled with the buzz words feel good type.I am very much disapointed on her speech, and it does not surprise me that she dedicated an entire paragraph about respect from others.

What is you opinion about this, does anyone question those statements, I think they are doing a disfavor to all, except herself.Love and respect to all, Liane

[Guest guest]

I always take any set of channelings, messages, etc with some level of skepticism and questioning; for myself, that is just a natural part of using my discernment. Taking it in context to what she seems to be attempting to convey is the sense of all of those actions, thoughts, etc will no longer because a "need" of conscious intent. It is not that we stop those actions. Rather than the "need" of intent to see them created we move from that to a state of Being. They are/become a natural part of our existence, our nature, our being. So, from that perspective I can understand and relate to what she is working at relating. That all of us will move from that state of trying to be and simply BE.

An example would be Love. I think it is a natural process for us to begin wanting to be an expression of Love, to have that desire to have it in our lives and share with this with others. While I would not say that should stop, in the same moment, we need to keep to heart that we need to take the time to love ourselves; completely, totally, unconditionally with full forgiveness and acceptance on all levels. As we grow into that we move, we grow, we evolve, from a state of desiring it, wanting it, to Being it. Remembering that is who and what we were from the beginning and once we have the walls crumbling down inside of us we find that we always have been. It has just been a process of remembering and reconnecting to that inside of us. We finally stop trying to find love, to have love and re-discover We Are Love which is a vital, important, integral aspect of our all being One.

What was that particular quote that some use from the Christian Bible? "Love the Lord your God will all of your heart, all of your thought, all of your being and the second is like unto it: Love your Self as you Love God". That might not be exact but the essence of the message is there.

Perhaps she may need to work on the wording of how she is trying to convey her messages so there is less of a chance of misunderstandings on it. I feel the essence of what she is attempting to say is that we move from the state of trying to a state of Being because we finally achieve and reconnect to all of that being a natural part of who we are.

As I mentioned at the beginning I still take each of her messages one at a time; receiving what resonates and just releasing, letting go of any and all that does not. I simply wanted to share my own opinions on the subject. Love and Blessings, Shay

'May we live in peace without weeping. May our joy outline the lives we touch without ceasing. And may our love fill the world, angel wings tenderly beating.'

The Universal Heart Center

http://www.freewebs.com/moshayra

[Guest guest]

>

> Question to the group: What is up with Bishop? My two cents

> >

> What is you opinion about this, does anyone question those statements,

> I think they are doing a disfavor to all, except herself.

>

> Love and respect to all,

> Liane

>

Hi Liane,

Your stated quite well the exact same things I've been noticing about 's

work for a while now. It seems she is internalizing and projecting, as well as

making very GRAND " Generalizations " which may or may not apply to others.

THere's no " wiggle room " for anything that SHE isn't " seeing " with clarity.

Additionally, she made the strange leap to naming her ebook " Heaven's Gate " , and

I just can't get out of my mind, every time I see those words, I think of the

following:

Heaven's Gate was an American UFO cult based in San Diego, California and led by

Marshall Applewhite (1931–1997) and Bonnie Nettles (1927–1985).[1] On March 26,

1997, police discovered the bodies of 39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult, all

of whom had died by apparent suicide. [2]

The group's end coincided with the appearance of Comet Hale-Bopp in 1997.[3]

Apparently, cults are formed around some single personality, usually, and this

cult was controlled in every way, including listening devices. They weren't

allowed to THINK. We can see this happening in society on every level; we're

told " the news " , which is so dumbed down and controlled that the REAL news is

completely buried and ignored. Just think of the chemtrail phenomenon, which

never gets mentions; or UFOs, the secret government, etc. ad inf.

Back to : I tried to write to her about my reaction to her ebook, thinking

once she saw the connection she probably wouldn't want it to be associated with

such a horrific event, but she doesn't accept emails. One would need to write a

letter, and I just figured she's in her own little imaginary world, leave her

be.

Perhaps she does some " good " for those who are just now beginning to awaken; but

for those of us who have been IN the process for a while, she's become

redundant. Since she's isolated, and doesn't get any feedback, there's no way

for her to know what impact she's having " out there " , so the value of " the

mirror " is not being used, and she isn't learning anything new from feedback.

Perhaps she is holding a vibration that needs to remain open, a frequency that

is necessary " in the scheme of things " . For that we can be thankful for her

efforts. However, it's also a way we can see where we've BEEN, in relation to

how we " used to be " . If we are, indeed, evolving and " changing " , then we will

always be moving upwards and onwards, and leaving that behind which no longer

serves us.

Best,

Zany

[Guest guest]

hummmm... not sure there's anything here to say, but it keeps showing up in

front of me.

I don't think I know , though I've seen the odd and end re-post of some of

her stuff. Based on the excerpts below, seems I've seen these on more than one

blog, at least in the words of those bloggers, with the same kind of...having

reached some end to needing to do, or teach, etc... maybe it's a result of the

writings from her, maybe it's more than that.

I think everyone has reached certain points in time where we wondered if

anything we were doing even mattered, and ask ourselves why we bothered...what

drove us to do the things we were doing?! Yet, it was a question we asked, much

less felt, through our whole being....and whether we told anyone of it or not,

we, somehow came back even stronger, more focused, and more powerful. And i

speak not of ego or personality....we came back...more aware, with more clarity,

and maybe more importantly, more humble in the process...not humble as human,

but humble, as....sacred, reverenced, and in awe of what was happening.

I call it burning off the " self " ...it is a process that re-defines us, and it

happens on many levels, whether we are aware of it or not...and even to the most

unselfish of them.

Both video sets I posted here yesterday go straight to these things...Wayne

Dyers movie [this re-defining ourselves], and Gregg Bradens seminar

series...talking about the " mirrors " , especially the mirrors as related by the

Essenes [a must watch]. If you haven't taken the time to watch and listen, do

it...it's worth the time.

I can only relate what I see/feel in a sense, and i could be way off...but I

sense, may be in the middle of a huge " burning off of self " . To me, that

means path change, or refinement. All of what your not sue of entirely you heap

up on the alter/stage/place of reveal-ment, and " let it go " , let it burn off,

and see what's left...because what's left " IS US " .

You see, in the very words she's used, she is speaking to herself [regardless of

how many are reading it]. By changing all the " you " to " I " , as if she's

telling herself this, it begins to take shape.

Now, to go to the feeling, or emotional charge reflected, it seems she is

pointing the finger at her own self in judgment.... " what the hell do you know " ?

She is charging herself...she is calling her own self out to explain what it is

" She " thinks she knows, or is practicing. She's questioning her own belief.

A funny thing happens while we are sharing with others, at least as I've come to

see it. We re-post tons of good stuff that resonates with us. You know why it

does? Because it IS US who need it the most, and even though we get much use

from it, and then pass it along to others, we rarely absorb what it was, and

don't even pay more attention to it till later on, re-reading it, coming across

it again, and taking the time.

Like re-posting the videos I mentioned, we begin to watch/hear/read and get

excited..we feel the need to pass it along, because we know that others will

feel much of the same about it, even NEED IT. We do this while listening in the

background, or not going back till later to " really " absorb what we found, or

that " came to us " .

It is this " passing through us " that begins to change us. IT DOES. Like sending

Love, it has to pass through us to go where we send it...so we benefit by it.

It's why giving is better than receiving..because it passes through us first,

and then returns.

We do absorb all of this stuff, and it begins to refine us, who we are. While I

don't write about it much, if ever, there are those times when I must withdraw

into myself, and question everything to that point. I shake loose what I think

it is I know and what has been working or not....I must redefine in a very

personal sense.

WE BECOME what it is we are doing. This will always require a burn off of what

we were....the self that we live everyday, but more and more are letting go of.

I don't know , or what's up with her, but I'd lay odds that there is a

" personal " something, very deep, that is being revealed, and that burn off,

that, exposure of something needing deep healing is painful...usually with a lot

of emotion resulting in anger, and hurt.

This evidently is pretty big, because it is a CALL...a call for help, for

prayer, for love....for healing. I can ask you all to say a prayer for me if I'm

having a problem...and it's there...period. What if we begin to recognize when

it's being asked, but not directly. All it takes is to put ones self in the

place of another..and feel what it is they are thinking.

Maybe the, perhaps....she is mirroring what we need to understand about

ourselves. Mirrors reflect the opposite of things. If she's reflecting no more

is needed, maybe, just maybe, it's that it's time to turn up the power.

But, that's just me......

D~

>

> Question to the group: What is up with Bishop? My two cents

>

> Those are excerpts of the new wings:

>

>

>

> " * You no longer have a desire to heal others, bring up the vibration of

> the planet, teach new

> ways of being, read spiritual materials, meditate, SAVE anything or

> anyone, or participate in anything that has a spiritual intent.I believe

> , like other channels are committing the mistake to evaluate and

> judge their own feeling as the feeling of others. She has been having

> her trials and she translate her feeling wide and abroad, this way many

> that do not know how to translate their feelings imediatly absorb as a

> reality.

> The planet has now reached a new level. Your job is over( Now she

> declares that based on what? so she can speak for everyone's Sacred

> contract?, who is to say that we reached the critical mass of collective

> ascension? I sincerely do not believe this would be a statement of

> Archangel ). And even before this new level was reached, after

> each of us reaches a certain level of frequency within, we are now ready

> to lose that old purpose and get a real life. This means that we do not

> need to speak about spiritual matters, we do not need to read about

> them, and we do not need to learn anything new. We come to know that

> being spiritual occurs very naturally 24/7. We are then simply being

> spiritual without having an intent to do so. Having an intent places us

> outside of our center and also comes from an old ego stance.(She should

> evaluate this on herself)

> Saving others or meddling with intentional desires to help others when

> not asked, is also very out of alignment with being an Earth Angel.

> Spontaneously offering spiritual guidance or messages to others fits in

> this category as well. There is one exception to all of this and it has

> to do with our store-fronts. Because our store-fronts exist on the

> dimensional border, and not in the old reality, they will serve to

> assist others in getting to the next plateau, or to the other side. In

> this way, we will be asked for assistance, and those asking will be

> poised and ready to receive what they need through our store-fronts. *

> You are so tired and weary of the old reality, that you do not care

> about anything anymore and simply give up with disappointment,

> exhaustion, apathy, and what feels like depression with a strong desire

> not to be here anymore. You think that nothing will EVER change. You are

> beyond discouraged.(Her internal voice speaking again)

> You are now ready to be in the eye of the storm. You are now ready to

> leave the old behind. You needed to not care about what is happening

> elsewhere, as what is happening elsewhere no longer has anything to do

> with you. You had not yet realized that you had " died " and crossed over

> into a new reality. You were still hanging around in the old world and

> believing it was your world and about you. The outside, or old world,

> had to become so unpleasant that you would be willing to let it go. It

> felt acutely unpleasant, as you no longer belong there because you have

> died and are now being re-born. "

>

> This is very funny, Her message has been in frank degradation

> progressively, this is absolutely everything I abhor in spiritual

> fallacies: WE are all one, and of course I do care what is happening

> somewhere else. What happens to someone in the other side of the wold

> affects me, like the subtle wings of that tiny butterfly on the Amazon

> that can affect the intensities of Hurricanes in the golf of Mexico.

>

> This is the most ridiculous message I ever read from her, and it is

> just filled with the buzz words feel good type.

> I am very much disapointed on her speech, and it does not surprise me

> that she dedicated an entire paragraph about respect from others.

>

> What is you opinion about this, does anyone question those statements,

> I think they are doing a disfavor to all, except herself.

>

> Love and respect to all,

> Liane

>

[Guest guest]

Sir Knight....you truly are love. Your words are always kind, giving, and with understanding. We ARE ONE...and you "help" the rest of yourselves (us), remember that WE ARE love!From: KnightsIntent <knightsintention@...>Subject: [] Re: Question to the group: What is up with Bishop? My two cents Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 7:35 PM

hummmm... not sure there's anything here to say, but it keeps showing up in front of me.

I don't think I know , though I've seen the odd and end re-post of some of her stuff. Based on the excerpts below, seems I've seen these on more than one blog, at least in the words of those bloggers, with the same kind of...having reached some end to needing to do, or teach, etc... maybe it's a result of the writings from her, maybe it's more than that.

I think everyone has reached certain points in time where we wondered if anything we were doing even mattered, and ask ourselves why we bothered...what drove us to do the things we were doing?! Yet, it was a question we asked, much less felt, through our whole being....and whether we told anyone of it or not, we, somehow came back even stronger, more focused, and more powerful. And i speak not of ego or personality. ...we came back...more aware, with more clarity, and maybe more importantly, more humble in the process...not humble as human, but humble, as....sacred, reverenced, and in awe of what was happening.

I call it burning off the "self"...it is a process that re-defines us, and it happens on many levels, whether we are aware of it or not...and even to the most unselfish of them.

Both video sets I posted here yesterday go straight to these things...Wayne Dyers movie [this re-defining ourselves], and Gregg Bradens seminar series...talking about the "mirrors", especially the mirrors as related by the Essenes [a must watch]. If you haven't taken the time to watch and listen, do it...it's worth the time.

I can only relate what I see/feel in a sense, and i could be way off...but I sense, may be in the middle of a huge "burning off of self". To me, that means path change, or refinement. All of what your not sue of entirely you heap up on the alter/stage/ place of reveal-ment, and "let it go", let it burn off, and see what's left...because what's left "IS US".

You see, in the very words she's used, she is speaking to herself [regardless of how many are reading it]. By changing all the "you" to "I", as if she's telling herself this, it begins to take shape.

Now, to go to the feeling, or emotional charge reflected, it seems she is pointing the finger at her own self in judgment.... "what the hell do you know"? She is charging herself...she is calling her own self out to explain what it is "She" thinks she knows, or is practicing. She's questioning her own belief.

A funny thing happens while we are sharing with others, at least as I've come to see it. We re-post tons of good stuff that resonates with us. You know why it does? Because it IS US who need it the most, and even though we get much use from it, and then pass it along to others, we rarely absorb what it was, and don't even pay more attention to it till later on, re-reading it, coming across it again, and taking the time.

Like re-posting the videos I mentioned, we begin to watch/hear/read and get excited..we feel the need to pass it along, because we know that others will feel much of the same about it, even NEED IT. We do this while listening in the background, or not going back till later to "really" absorb what we found, or that "came to us".

It is this "passing through us" that begins to change us. IT DOES. Like sending Love, it has to pass through us to go where we send it...so we benefit by it. It's why giving is better than receiving..because it passes through us first, and then returns.

We do absorb all of this stuff, and it begins to refine us, who we are. While I don't write about it much, if ever, there are those times when I must withdraw into myself, and question everything to that point. I shake loose what I think it is I know and what has been working or not....I must redefine in a very personal sense.

WE BECOME what it is we are doing. This will always require a burn off of what we were....the self that we live everyday, but more and more are letting go of.

I don't know , or what's up with her, but I'd lay odds that there is a "personal" something, very deep, that is being revealed, and that burn off, that, exposure of something needing deep healing is painful...usually with a lot of emotion resulting in anger, and hurt.

This evidently is pretty big, because it is a CALL...a call for help, for prayer, for love....for healing. I can ask you all to say a prayer for me if I'm having a problem...and it's there...period. What if we begin to recognize when it's being asked, but not directly. All it takes is to put ones self in the place of another..and feel what it is they are thinking.

Maybe the, perhaps....she is mirroring what we need to understand about ourselves. Mirrors reflect the opposite of things. If she's reflecting no more is needed, maybe, just maybe, it's that it's time to turn up the power.

But, that's just me......

D~

>

> Question to the group: What is up with Bishop? My two cents

>

> Those are excerpts of the new wings:

>

>

>

> "* You no longer have a desire to heal others, bring up the vibration of

> the planet, teach new

> ways of being, read spiritual materials, meditate, SAVE anything or

> anyone, or participate in anything that has a spiritual intent.I believe

> , like other channels are committing the mistake to evaluate and

> judge their own feeling as the feeling of others. She has been having

> her trials and she translate her feeling wide and abroad, this way many

> that do not know how to translate their feelings imediatly absorb as a

> reality.

> The planet has now reached a new level. Your job is over( Now she

> declares that based on what? so she can speak for everyone's Sacred

> contract?, who is to say that we reached the critical mass of collective

> ascension? I sincerely do not believe this would be a statement of

> Archangel ). And even before this new level was reached, after

> each of us reaches a certain level of frequency within, we are now ready

> to lose that old purpose and get a real life. This means that we do not

> need to speak about spiritual matters, we do not need to read about

> them, and we do not need to learn anything new. We come to know that

> being spiritual occurs very naturally 24/7. We are then simply being

> spiritual without having an intent to do so. Having an intent places us

> outside of our center and also comes from an old ego stance.(She should

> evaluate this on herself)

> Saving others or meddling with intentional desires to help others when

> not asked, is also very out of alignment with being an Earth Angel.

> Spontaneously offering spiritual guidance or messages to others fits in

> this category as well. There is one exception to all of this and it has

> to do with our store-fronts. Because our store-fronts exist on the

> dimensional border, and not in the old reality, they will serve to

> assist others in getting to the next plateau, or to the other side. In

> this way, we will be asked for assistance, and those asking will be

> poised and ready to receive what they need through our store-fronts. *

> You are so tired and weary of the old reality, that you do not care

> about anything anymore and simply give up with disappointment,

> exhaustion, apathy, and what feels like depression with a strong desire

> not to be here anymore. You think that nothing will EVER change. You are

> beyond discouraged. (Her internal voice speaking again)

> You are now ready to be in the eye of the storm. You are now ready to

> leave the old behind. You needed to not care about what is happening

> elsewhere, as what is happening elsewhere no longer has anything to do

> with you. You had not yet realized that you had "died" and crossed over

> into a new reality. You were still hanging around in the old world and

> believing it was your world and about you. The outside, or old world,

> had to become so unpleasant that you would be willing to let it go. It

> felt acutely unpleasant, as you no longer belong there because you have

> died and are now being re-born."

>

> This is very funny, Her message has been in frank degradation

> progressively, this is absolutely everything I abhor in spiritual

> fallacies: WE are all one, and of course I do care what is happening

> somewhere else. What happens to someone in the other side of the wold

> affects me, like the subtle wings of that tiny butterfly on the Amazon

> that can affect the intensities of Hurricanes in the golf of Mexico.

>

> This is the most ridiculous message I ever read from her, and it is

> just filled with the buzz words feel good type.

> I am very much disapointed on her speech, and it does not surprise me

> that she dedicated an entire paragraph about respect from others.

>

> What is you opinion about this, does anyone question those statements,

> I think they are doing a disfavor to all, except herself.

>

> Love and respect to all,

> Liane

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