Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 My husband was not as ill as I was (we both, and our 3 kids, have Lyme, Babs, Bart, Ehrlich, Mycoplasma, HHV-6 and Chlamydia pneu...), but b/c he was having increasing symptoms, he started antibiotic treatment several months after I did in Fall 2006. He did herx, but never as signficantly as I did early on. We suspect he was infected in his youth (now 41) and over the course of his 20's - he would have these flares and then it would go away, his immune system handling it at that time. At this point, I have gotten 90% better but am still struggling with coinfections; our kids are all significantly better as well. But my husband feels that he has just gotten worse over the course of his 2 yrs on antibiotics. I cope with this, and the uncertainty over any treatment path, by informing myself - reading everything I can (reputable sources), attending science conferences, hearing from those developing the clinical practice/treatments, and researchers. This has helped me to know that the choices we are making are the best we can make at this time. My husband doesn't cope this way, he has relied on my judgement, but his gut instinct lately is telling him - I've only gotten worse since I started treatment, it must be the antibiotics. Has anyone dealt with similiar issues - what has helped deal with this suspicion that we always have? I felt that he needed to go off antibiotics and see what happened - which he did... and fairly shortly after that, Babesia symptoms reared their head. I think he feels that by treating this, we've made everything worse for him. Any thoughts? Thx... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 , My doctor told me that on the antibiotics I will feel worse before I feel better. This is because of the herx reactions going on during treatment. Your husband might want to look into getting an evaluation for yeast, because that could contribute to him feeling ill. I also see a naturopathic doctor/nutritionist who advises me about which supplements are best. She had my adrenal function tested and I was way out of balance. That can affect how you feel, too. I don't know what the answer is for your husband, but it certainly makes sense that he might feel worse on the abx if the spirochetes are dying off, which contributes to him getting more symptoms. I don't know how many years he's been on abx, but it can take several years solid to start feeling really well again. Has he read Cure Unknown? Best of luck to you and have a Happy Holiday. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Systemic yeast could be a problem and it is for me so can't take much abx or get much worse. In addition, maybe the abx he has been on have only been partially effective, thus stressing his immune system without really doing the job. If the right abx or combo were found maybe it would really get rid of what he has... And yeast might need to be addressed. Staying on abx that aren't really doing the trick while you get worse is probably not a good idea, as his gut instinct is telling him. > > My husband was not as ill as I was (we both, and our 3 kids, have > Lyme, Babs, Bart, Ehrlich, Mycoplasma, HHV-6 and Chlamydia pneu...), > but b/c he was having increasing symptoms, he started antibiotic > treatment several months after I did in Fall 2006. He did herx, but > never as signficantly as I did early on. We suspect he was infected > in his youth (now 41) and over the course of his 20's - he would have > these flares and then it would go away, his immune system handling it > at that time. At this point, I have gotten 90% better but am still > struggling with coinfections; our kids are all significantly better > as well. But my husband feels that he has just gotten worse over the > course of his 2 yrs on antibiotics. I cope with this, and the > uncertainty over any treatment path, by informing myself - reading > everything I can (reputable sources), attending science conferences, > hearing from those developing the clinical practice/treatments, and > researchers. This has helped me to know that the choices we are > making are the best we can make at this time. My husband doesn't > cope this way, he has relied on my judgement, but his gut instinct > lately is telling him - I've only gotten worse since I started > treatment, it must be the antibiotics. Has anyone dealt with > similiar issues - what has helped deal with this suspicion that we > always have? I felt that he needed to go off antibiotics and see > what happened - which he did... and fairly shortly after that, > Babesia symptoms reared their head. I think he feels that by > treating this, we've made everything worse for him. Any thoughts? > Thx... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 , I do understand how you and your husband are feeling. While my husband does not have Lyme, he reacts to my situation the same way yours reacts to his own. I also got worse before getting better and my husband was sure we were on the wrong track and that the meds were making me worse. I on the other hand, was comfortable with knowing that this is a very long process. I read a lot about Lyme. He would read nothing unless it was written negatively. We have had many disagreements about this and now we avoid the subject completely. This leaves me with a feeling of being rejected by him. However, we have agreed to disagree and leave it at that. Coinfections can certainly make everything worse. After 3 years in treatment, my Babesia and Bartenella are gone. My doctor treated them heavily and so I was very sick, but now I am so much better. I still have bad days and get exhausted easily, but I do recouperate after resting, which never happened before. I will never be as strong and energetic as I was. but I can live with this. Contentment is the key. However, I can say this because I am not in pain right now. My pain meds are working and I have found that this is the key to functioning at an acceptable level. I hope you both can learn to cope well while you are in treatment. > > My husband was not as ill as I was (we both, and our 3 kids, have > Lyme, Babs, Bart, Ehrlich, Mycoplasma, HHV-6 and Chlamydia pneu...), > but b/c he was having increasing symptoms, he started antibiotic > treatment several months after I did in Fall 2006. He did herx, but > never as signficantly as I did early on. We suspect he was infected > in his youth (now 41) and over the course of his 20's - he would have > these flares and then it would go away, his immune system handling it > at that time. At this point, I have gotten 90% better but am still > struggling with coinfections; our kids are all significantly better > as well. But my husband feels that he has just gotten worse over the > course of his 2 yrs on antibiotics. I cope with this, and the > uncertainty over any treatment path, by informing myself - reading > everything I can (reputable sources), attending science conferences, > hearing from those developing the clinical practice/treatments, and > researchers. This has helped me to know that the choices we are > making are the best we can make at this time. My husband doesn't > cope this way, he has relied on my judgement, but his gut instinct > lately is telling him - I've only gotten worse since I started > treatment, it must be the antibiotics. Has anyone dealt with > similiar issues - what has helped deal with this suspicion that we > always have? I felt that he needed to go off antibiotics and see > what happened - which he did... and fairly shortly after that, > Babesia symptoms reared their head. I think he feels that by > treating this, we've made everything worse for him. Any thoughts? > Thx... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Hi and Happy New Year. I think the most difficult thing for me with long-term treatment (besides, of course, herxing) is that I sometimes feel healthy and can't imagine that I'm really sick. Then I get sick again and it's such a roller coaster. I never know when I'll be well enough to travel and have had to cancel a trip to the East Coast at the last minute. Sometimes I think it's all in my head (but nobody is telling me that!). My doctor had to pull out my lab tests one day to assure me that I do have Lyme. I have neurological symptoms, but I sometimes wonder if it's really Parkinson's or if the memory problems are just from aging, etc. I hear about people dying from Lyme effects, but I don't feel like I'm dying most of the time. I don't understand it at all. On the other hand, my doctor prescribed Flagyl recently to kick out the spirochetes faster. Combined with my weekly Bicillin shots, she said I would feel worse for awhile. The last time I took Flagyl was 20 years ago and I got so sick I was too weak to talk or walk. My doc thinks that was the first herx. It was about that time that I started having heart palpitations and tachycardia attacks, too. What a mystery illness. I need to watch Under Our Skin again. May everyone feel the building of new health in the New Year. Janet ************************************************* I wish I could show you, when you are lonely or in darkness, the astonishing light of your own Being. - Hafiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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