RE: Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI/Mercury/LDN

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They started filling my teeth with amalgam at 5 years old.  At 45 I was dx SPMS.  At 47 had all mercury removed..  It is interesting that the body definitely seems to be time sensitive. I find I can only take certain supplements at certain times. When I had my amalgam removed I was told not to make appointments at regular (weekly) intervals. Even though I was removing them with a holistic dentist (who used a rubber dam, Vit C drip, oxygen, etc) I definitely felt better & could handle the whole procedure & any mercury better when I randomized my appointments I have had huge levels of mercury from edge to edge mercury fillings. A lab test said that anyone with such high levels would have neurological problems.  I took out all fillings then started intra venous chelation with vit C & amino acids. A big amount came out with the first one. But the second chelation I had an anaphylactic shock reaction to (probably to the mercury) so I did not do anymore of that. I have read somewhere that it is no longer recommended to have the fillings removed as you can get worse poisoning. Must do it with wholistic dentist anyway (which I did but I did NOT see any improvement though hopefully it stopped worse deterioration).Mercury can be chelated with Metox drops, liquid zeolite, cinnamon (capsules) ALA, cinnamon & ginger as a drink. I have been doing one or another for last 15 years & still have some mercury & massive problems with allergies to food/supplements/drugs. ThisIsMS.com also has thread on people who have NOT seen benefits from CCSVI.  The thing that scares me are those who have got worse after CSSVI.  Though, of course, the deterioration might be due to something else? ThisIsMS.com is also where I first read about LDN.  They have a thread going on LDN & MS.   From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of g21avila@...Sent: Sunday, 23 January 2011 8:57 AMNara; low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI Our family dentist has suggested not disturbing old dental work. More specifically, the Mercury. One of great things about this forum is the free exchange of information. This, despite the fact that at times we (as a group) have tendency to beat a subject to death. And as a sidebar, let me also disclose I'm in the middle of a Budweiser. FYI. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: " Nara " <nara19@...> Sender: low dose naltrexone Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:49:13 -0000<low dose naltrexone >Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI I have had polymyositis, and about 6 months after removing allamalgams, I got considerably worse, bedridden. So, amalgamswithout following a chelation protocol (I suggest Andy Cutler's)may worsen some folks condition by far./Nara>> dear rachel> > content of your email is both very interesting and informative> > ldn, ccsvi, mercury removal, diet, detox, supplement etc will not cure you of ms > but it can go along way to slow the progress, remember the saviour stem cell > replacement and the cost> > all treatments cost and a lot of people cannot afford it> > i was dx 1995 with p/p with 'specialist neurologist' saying i would be > wheelchair bound and in need of care within 5 years, how many neurologists have > a neurological problem, i do not know one, so how do they know what it is like, > how can they treat ms patients with the same drug when we are all different> > i feel through removal of all my mercury filings [8], change of diet and > lifestyle [no stress] has helped me, still just about walking on a frame and not > dependent although caring wife> > brgds peter> > > > >________________________________> From: <rachael.m.thomas@...>> LDN Group <low dose naltrexone >> Sent: Fri, 21 January, 2011 13:33:09> Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI> >  > Hi n> I'm sorry you have ALS - I truly am. I can't imagine what it must be like if > you're driven to thinking that having 'MS' would be better. I know sooo many > 'MS'ers who would disagree loudly with you. Some of them can't now of course > because they're no longer with us due to 'MS'.> So, whilst Neurologists poison people with their toxic drugs and write each up > as a 'result' statistic, there hasn't been anything to TRULY help people until > CCSVI apart from Diet, Detox and Supplements.> CCSVI isn't a 'get out of jail free' card either - there are no guarantees with > it and there are not many who have 'recovered' truly and fully. > >  >  'The research I did revealed definitive causes for MS and consequently, just as > definitive recovery paths.'> I'd be very interested to hear of these paths to recovery.>  > 'As the minute current that is being fed up travels through the brain, its > electric charge is attracting ionized water which causes the characteristic MS > brain lesions.'> There is a heck of a lot more to 'MS' than having had fillings.> I have 'MS'. I have no fillings - not a one.>  > 'Another characteristic effect upon the body of MS is an increase in the spinal > fluid protein levels. Once a person has been diagnosed with MS, then it has > been seen that these elevated spinal fluid protein levels will never drop down > to normal levels.  Once again, Dr. Huggin's idea that amalgam fillings are a > cause for MS has been well and truly verified through this elevated protein > level phenomenon.'> 'She found out about the amalgam connection and had hers removed properly. > Today she is MS free.  I have read story after story after story that are very > similar. I am not saying that all MS is caused by amalgam fillings, but I do > believe that it is by far the major cause.'> I know many people who have paid huge money to get their fillings removed too - > it didn't help them and they weren't 'MS' free. I'm happy for your friend - > happier than you could ever know. > But I do have to warn that fillings aren't the cause of 'MS'.>  > 'Many are claiming it to be the " cause " of MS - but I have much doubt about > that. If we consider the question of why does someone with five amalgam fillings > get MS when someone with fifteen amalgam fillings doesn't? Because we know the > mercury will damage the myelin sheath, why doesn't that happen in the person > with fifteen fillings as well?'>  > I can only gather that you don't understand the Chronic CerebroSpinal > Insufficiency (CCSVI) procedure and theory. It is a vascular condition where the > iron in the brain cannot drain out of the brain. It is THIS which causes the > plaques in the brain.> The condition starts before birth (congenitive) and is a vscular condition. The > procedure is a venoplasty and opens the narrowings in the veins to let the blood > flow properly and drain the brain of the iron which has been stuck there for so > many years.>  > As you've researched so much about 'MS', please tell me how I got 'MS' then. You > don't seem to realise that most people who have been tested (so far in Scotland, > every 'MS'er has had CCSVI) actually DO have the condition - it has been the > fact that people haven't been tested properly which hs altered the results.> *shrugs*>  > Carolyn, I suggest that you join the MSCured group if you haven't already, > and look into diet and supplements to help with 'MS'. Get your fillings removed > if you feel it could be a help and follow n's advice RE: research and > familiarising yourself with everything abouit it.>  > n, you've done a lot of work researching the amalgams/mercury fillings > theory and I hope it helps you with your ALS.> Please, respectfully, do more research on CCSVI, the Vascular theory of 'MS' and > how 'MS' actually works in order to comment on it in regards to 'how > someone gets MS'. No one 'gets' it - it's a congenital condition. *shrugs*>  > Fantastic research! Most 'MS'ers in Australia know the theory and have had > their fillings removed.....without much improvement I'm afraid. > Thanks for posting this though - I think getting Mercury filings removed can > only be a good thing anyway, but I still doubt that it is the 'cure-all' for > 'MS' due to how many I've seen NOT get improvement.>  > Perhaps we should all just ensure we detoxify our bodies and remove anything > which can impact on our inner workings. > > > 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'> MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)> > > >  > >________________________________> low dose naltrexone > From: burd27@...> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:53:48 -0800> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI> >  > Hello again Carolyn,> > Thank you for your quick reply to my reply. : )> > >  >

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May I ask what BBD stands for?ThanksFrom: <rachael.m.thomas@...>LDN Group <low dose naltrexone >Sent: Sun, 23 January, 2011 17:36:14Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI/Mercury/LDN

I agree!

The BBD tends to arrest this and is why I was talking about Diet and detox as huge parts of a bigger solution.

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

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Hi Trish,I appreciate your comments. Thanks.Out of the people I know who have seen their MS symptoms disappear altogether after having their amalgams removed, have all followed up with a detailed chelation protocol until they knew that their mercury levels were sufficiently reduced.Chelation methods are quite varied, but if a person chooses to attempt to eliminate the mercury in large amounts, then it may well work out, but the risk of causing further neuro damage is much higher. Sort of akin to playing Russian Roulette.I liken it to having a bucket of water with a layer of mud settled on the bottom. If using your hand you try and scoop out a big lump of mud, much of it will be stirred up in the water. If however you take small portions out over a longer time period, the likelihood that you will be able to keep

the water mostly clear, is far far greater. Likewise, it is important to eliminate the mercury in your body at a slow but constant pace such as detailed in the Andy Cutler or similar protocols.Until the mercury that is in the areas where it is causing the problem is removed, then we can't expect those problems to disappear. A proper chelation process will take time, but the rewards are there for most who are prepared to stick at it.A highly regarded ND I know, who is very experienced in this area has seen many MS patient's health restored through following a correct Total Dental Revision protocol and chelation program. But, a part of that "follow up" protocol, is to avoid any further mercury exposure if possible, whether that be through industrial exposure, eating sea food, HF corn syrup, vaccines containing Thimerasol, etc. This ND told me that two of his previous patients had followed this protocol and had

become symptom free for a number of years. But, in both case after about five years of being well, they decided to reintroduce sea food back in to their diet. After a little while, they began to see their MS symptoms return.It is easy to see then just how the status of our health can be in a balance. Keeping our toxicities down below a certain level can be an arduous task - often walking blindly, not knowing if what we are doing is what's best. Thankfully, as many of us can testify, adjuncts such as Vitamin C and other antioxidants, but also LDN, have proven to be great tools in helping to weigh the balance in our health's favor. Even CCSVI corrective procedures can help as well.The sort of examples as above, do give us a greater understanding that the mercury issue in respect to MS and other neuro conditions is indeed a finely balanced one. When the major source of mercury is removed from the body (ie. the

amalgams), we have to grasp two main points if we want to have the chance to regain our health. One, is firstly to show due "respect" to the toxicity and the danger that it presents to our bodies, and secondly to also respect the fact that as the mercury poisoning has taken often decades to build up and cause its damage, that it will also take a long time to draw it out without causing more damage.But the good news is, that the premise that amalgams are better left in your head than to risk having them taken out, holds no water unless of course, the fillings are removed by an incompetent dentist and the correct protocol during and after is not followed. For most people, that can be achieved safely if it is all done properly and with a dedicated mindset to stick with the protocol for the long haul. Unfortunately there are many reasons why some people are unable to take this path, some because of the severity of their overall

health/physical condition, for some it might be financial reasons. But for those who are able to walk that path, the information is out there and we each have to make a choice on how eager we want to get better and whether we want to take that path. It's all about "leverage"!-nFrom: Trish Kerbel <pmkerbel@...>Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI/Mercury/LDNlow dose naltrexone Received: Sunday, 23 January, 2011, 4:54 PM

They started filling my teeth with amalgam at 5 years old. At 45 I was dx SPMS. At 47 had all mercury removed.. It is interesting that the body definitely seems to be time sensitive. I find I can only take certain supplements at certain times. When I had my amalgam removed I was told not to make appointments at regular (weekly) intervals. Even though I was removing them with a holistic dentist (who used a rubber dam, Vit C drip, oxygen, etc) I definitely felt better & could handle the whole procedure & any mercury better when I randomized my appointments I have had huge levels of mercury from edge to edge mercury fillings. A lab test said that anyone with such high levels would have neurological problems. I took out all fillings then started intra venous chelation with vit C & amino acids. A big amount came out with the first one. But the second chelation I had an anaphylactic shock reaction to (probably to the mercury) so I did not do anymore of that. I have read somewhere that it is no longer recommended to have the fillings removed as you can get worse poisoning. Must do it with wholistic dentist anyway (which I did but I did NOT see any improvement though

hopefully it stopped worse deterioration).Mercury can be chelated with Metox drops, liquid zeolite, cinnamon (capsules) ALA, cinnamon & ginger as a drink. I have been doing one or another for last 15 years & still have some mercury & massive problems with allergies to food/supplements/drugs. ThisIsMS.com also has thread on people who have NOT seen benefits from CCSVI. The thing that scares me are those who have got worse after CSSVI. Though, of course, the deterioration might be due to something else? ThisIsMS.com is also where I first read about LDN. They have a thread going on LDN & MS. From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of g21avila@...Sent: Sunday, 23 January 2011 8:57 AMNara; low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple

Sclerosis / CCVSI Our family dentist has suggested not disturbing old dental work. More specifically, the Mercury. One of great things about this forum is the free exchange of information. This, despite the fact that at times we (as a group) have tendency to beat a subject to death. And as a sidebar, let me also disclose I'm in the middle of a Budweiser. FYI. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "Nara" <nara19@...> Sender:

low dose naltrexone Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:49:13 -0000<low dose naltrexone >Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI I have had polymyositis, and about 6 months after removing allamalgams, I got considerably worse, bedridden. So, amalgamswithout following a chelation protocol (I suggest Andy Cutler's)may worsen some folks condition by far./Nara>> dear rachel> > content of your email is both very interesting and informative> > ldn, ccsvi, mercury removal, diet, detox, supplement etc will not cure you of ms > but it can go along way to slow the progress, remember the saviour stem cell > replacement and the cost> > all treatments cost and a lot of people cannot afford it> > i was dx 1995 with p/p with 'specialist neurologist' saying i would be > wheelchair bound and in need of care within 5 years, how many neurologists have > a neurological problem, i do not know one, so how do they know what it is like, > how can they treat ms patients with the same drug when we are all different> > i feel through removal of all my mercury filings [8], change of diet and > lifestyle [no stress] has helped me, still just about walking on a frame and

not > dependent although caring wife> > brgds peter> > > > >________________________________> From: <rachael.m.thomas@...>> LDN Group <low dose naltrexone >> Sent: Fri, 21 January, 2011 13:33:09> Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI> > Â > Hi n> I'm sorry you have ALS - I truly am. I can't imagine what it must be like if > you're driven to thinking that having 'MS' would be better. I know sooo many > 'MS'ers who would disagree loudly with you. Some of them can't now of course > because they're no longer with us due to 'MS'.> So, whilst Neurologists poison people with their toxic drugs

and write each up > as a 'result' statistic, there hasn't been anything to TRULY help people until > CCSVI apart from Diet, Detox and Supplements.> CCSVI isn't a 'get out of jail free' card either - there are no guarantees with > it and there are not many who have 'recovered' truly and fully. > >  >  'The research I did revealed definitive causes for MS and consequently, just as > definitive recovery paths.'> I'd be very interested to hear of these paths to recovery.>  > 'As the minute current that is being fed up travels through the brain, its > electric charge is attracting ionized water which causes the characteristic MS > brain lesions.'> There is a heck of a lot more to 'MS' than having had fillings.> I have 'MS'. I have no fillings - not a one.>  > 'Another characteristic effect upon the

body of MS is an increase in the spinal > fluid protein levels. Once a person has been diagnosed with MS, then it has > been seen that these elevated spinal fluid protein levels will never drop down > to normal levels.  Once again, Dr. Huggin's idea that amalgam fillings are a > cause for MS has been well and truly verified through this elevated protein > level phenomenon.'> 'She found out about the amalgam connection and had hers removed properly. > Today she is MS free.  I have read story after story after story that are very > similar. I am not saying that all MS is caused by amalgam fillings, but I do > believe that it is by far the major cause.'> I know many people who have paid huge money to get their fillings removed too - > it didn't help them and they weren't 'MS' free. I'm happy for your friend - > happier

than you could ever know. > But I do have to warn that fillings aren't the cause of 'MS'.>  > 'Many are claiming it to be the "cause" of MS - but I have much doubt about > that. If we consider the question of why does someone with five amalgam fillings > get MS when someone with fifteen amalgam fillings doesn't? Because we know the > mercury will damage the myelin sheath, why doesn't that happen in the person > with fifteen fillings as well?'>  > I can only gather that you don't understand the Chronic CerebroSpinal > Insufficiency (CCSVI) procedure and theory. It is a vascular condition where the > iron in the brain cannot drain out of the brain. It is THIS which causes the > plaques in the brain.> The condition starts before birth (congenitive) and is a vscular condition. The > procedure is a venoplasty and opens the narrowings in

the veins to let the blood > flow properly and drain the brain of the iron which has been stuck there for so > many years.>  > As you've researched so much about 'MS', please tell me how I got 'MS' then. You > don't seem to realise that most people who have been tested (so far in Scotland, > every 'MS'er has had CCSVI) actually DO have the condition - it has been the > fact that people haven't been tested properly which hs altered the results.> *shrugs*>  > Carolyn, I suggest that you join the MSCured group if you haven't already, > and look into diet and supplements to help with 'MS'. Get your fillings removed > if you feel it could be a help and follow n's advice RE: research and > familiarising yourself with everything abouit it.>  > n, you've done a lot of work researching the amalgams/mercury

fillings > theory and I hope it helps you with your ALS.> Please, respectfully, do more research on CCSVI, the Vascular theory of 'MS' and > how 'MS' actually works in order to comment on it in regards to 'how > someone gets MS'. No one 'gets' it - it's a congenital condition. *shrugs*>  > Fantastic research! Most 'MS'ers in Australia know the theory and have had > their fillings removed.....without much improvement I'm afraid. > Thanks for posting this though - I think getting Mercury filings removed can > only be a good thing anyway, but I still doubt that it is the 'cure-all' for > 'MS' due to how many I've seen NOT get improvement.>  > Perhaps we should all just ensure we detoxify our bodies and remove anything > which can impact on our inner workings. > > > 'What we do in life, echoes through

eternity.'> MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)> > > > Â > >________________________________> low dose naltrexone > From: burd27@...> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:53:48 -0800> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI> > Â > Hello again Carolyn,> > Thank you for your quick reply to my reply. : )> > > Â >

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hi lysa

BBD = Best Bet Diet

brgds peter

From: lysa kelly <lysa_kelly@...> <rachael.m.thomas@...>; LDN Group <low dose naltrexone >Sent: Sun, 23 January, 2011 18:52:22Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI/Mercury/LDN

May I ask what BBD stands for?

Thanks

From: <rachael.m.thomas@...>LDN Group <low dose naltrexone >Sent: Sun, 23 January, 2011 17:36:14Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI/Mercury/LDN

I agree!The BBD tends to arrest this and is why I was talking about Diet and detox as huge parts of a bigger solution. 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

low dose naltrexone From: zahavi100@...Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:18:25 +0100Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Multiple Sclerosis / CCVSI/Mercury/LDN

Today i was reading in this book over leaky gut as the cause of auto-immune.

I think that there is much in the theory of leaky gut.