ALA

[Guest guest]

I stay away from bigger fish like tuna & salmon because of the mercury. I will

eat Tilapia or cod. I guess wild salmon is ok. With the level of toxicity of

mercury I just think it is better to be safe. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: ALA

Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:58 PM

 

> I guess who really knows if any of this is helpful and/or safe?

Well, I know that we had one former member ( " Ed from the Netherlands " )

who used the frequent dosing ALA, and reported that his ES went away

entirely after a number of months. He unsubscribed from the group

because it was no longer of interest to him.

> First I have to get the last filling out of my mouth. Next come the

> crowns.

Well yes, you should have the metal removed from your teeth

before chelating anyways.

> I assume you stay away from tuna? I am contemplating switching to

> sardines as i still eat a can of tuna/week.

The mercury content varies greatly between various types of tuna --

for example, " dolphin-safe " tuna usually implies that the tuna

are smaller fish, which means they don't have as much mercury in

them. Also, " chunk lite " tuna is supposed to have less mercury

in it. I've found limited amounts of chunk lite Tongal tuna

(they sell that in my local store) seems okay, although I have

switched mostly to a particular brand of sardine that tastes

pretty much like tuna to me.

Marc

[Guest guest]

wild salmon should be fine, I eat a can a week

>

>

> From: Marc <marc@...>

> Subject: Re: ALA

>

> Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:58 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> > I guess who really knows if any of this is helpful

> and/or safe?

>

> Well, I know that we had one former member ( " Ed from

> the Netherlands " )

> who used the frequent dosing ALA, and reported that his ES

> went away

> entirely after a number of months. He unsubscribed from the

> group

> because it was no longer of interest to him.

>

> > First I have to get the last filling out of my mouth.

> Next come the

> > crowns.

>

> Well yes, you should have the metal removed from your teeth

>

> before chelating anyways.

>

> > I assume you stay away from tuna? I am contemplating

> switching to

> > sardines as i still eat a can of tuna/week.

>

> The mercury content varies greatly between various types of

> tuna --

> for example, " dolphin-safe " tuna usually implies that the

> tuna

> are smaller fish, which means they don't have as much

> mercury in

> them. Also, " chunk lite " tuna is supposed to have less

> mercury

> in it. I've found limited amounts of chunk lite Tongal

> tuna

> (they sell that in my local store) seems okay, although I

> have

> switched mostly to a particular brand of sardine that

> tastes

> pretty much like tuna to me.

>

> Marc

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>      

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was part of that frequent dose group for a year and a half. I know how they

are. I got the book amalgam illness but haven't finished the entire book. I

need to reread it again. How closely do you follow the protocol. I have never

used DMSA but have decided to try some in the children's size doses, that is,

about 25 mg on an empty stomach at night and see what reaction I get. I'll need

to reread the book as I can't remember the schedule for DMSA. But I think you

were only supposed to use it for a few days at a time and not continuously or

every day. If you have tried DMSA what did you think of it and which brands did

you prefer? I bought some from

www.1to1vitamins.com/products/dmsa_for_children.html

>

> > I have not heard of DHLA before. What can you tell me

> > about it?

>

> Thanks for that info -- I have not tried the R-ALA, as the

> frequent dosing people seem to be leery of it (but they

> are a skeptical bunch). I do get side effects from

> the ALA -- sometimes fatigue, sometimes anxiety, and

> usually ringing ears after the end of the round.

>

> DHLA is a reduced form or R-ALA. That means it has an

> extra electron. R-ALA is an oxidized (missing electron)

> form of DHLA. I know one product (DHLA Nano-Plex)

> claims to not only be " natural " , but comes from natural

> (food) sources. Most R-ALA does not come from natural

> sources, but is usually syntheticly made just like regular

> ALA and then they remove the unnatural S-ALA part.

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

> I was part of that frequent dose group for a year and a half. I know how

> they are.

They are pretty close-minded -- do it their way or be ridiculed!

But if you look closely, you'll find that their success rate isn't

exactly 100%.

> How closely do you follow the protocol.

The protocol is pretty simple.

For DMPS, take every 8 hours for 3 or more days, then take a break

of 4 or more days.

For DMSA, take every 4 hours for 3 or more days, then take a break

of 4 or more days.

For ALA, take every 3 hours (optionally every 4 hours at night)

for 3 or more days, then take a break of 4 or more days.

> If you have tried DMSA what did you think of it and which brands

> did you prefer?

I've never tried DMSA, as they note that it is optional. Although

some people say it's more tolerable than the ALA, so it may be a

good starting point.

Marc

[Guest guest]

I was reading the amalgam illness book last night. I went to the index and

looked up bits of information about the DMSA. My DMSA shipped today and I think

I will just take it every three hours when I take my ALA. If I can tolerate it

I'll just take it till the bottle is empty. I'll let you know what I think of

it.

[Guest guest]

Whhat do you or anyone else here think about using cilantro and chlorella for

mercury detox? There's also a homeopathic called Pronatura Dentox.

> From: skolyer@... <skolyer@...>

> Subject: Re: ALA

>

> Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 3:58 PM

> I was reading the amalgam illness

> book last night.  I went to the index and looked up

> bits of information about the DMSA.  My DMSA shipped

> today and I think I will just take it every three hours when

> I take my ALA.  If I can tolerate it I'll just take it

> till the bottle is empty.  I'll let you know what I

> think of it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think it is an excellent idea. Good for you!  Loni

> From: skolyervaughns (DOT) com <skolyervaughns (DOT) com>

> Subject: Re: ALA

> groups (DOT) com

> Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 3:58 PM

> I was reading the amalgam illness

> book last night.  I went to the index and looked up

> bits of information about the DMSA.  My DMSA shipped

> today and I think I will just take it every three hours when

> I take my ALA.  If I can tolerate it I'll just take it

> till the bottle is empty.  I'll let you know what I

> think of it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Bee:

I forgot to mention... this ALA is yellowish powder in capsules. It does not

seem to be oil-based. I have seen ALA and also Coenzyme Q10 products which are

oil-based, and I steer clear of them.

So... I still do not know the ultimate source of this product, but it is a dry

powder.

Pam Maltzman

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, Bee:

>

> I forgot to mention... this ALA is yellowish powder in capsules. It does not

seem to be oil-based. I have seen ALA and also Coenzyme Q10 products which are

oil-based, and I steer clear of them.

>

> So... I still do not know the ultimate source of this product, but it is a dry

powder.

+++Hi Pam,

Then it is even more important you find out what the source of that ALA is,

since it could also be soybeans.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Dear Pam,

You get plenty of ALA on my program.

Bee

>

> Bee, following are some of the ALA products I found on iHerb. I will say that

none of these seemed to list the source of their ALA either. Do any of these

look acceptable?

>

> What I want to use are capsules which each contain either 100 mg or 200 mg of

ALA. All of the following are pure ALA with no other supplements in the mix,

but they do not specifically state where the ALA came from.

>

<snip>

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

I quit ALA when I heard it will pick up mercury, but does not carry it out of

the body, it only dumps it somewhere else in the body. There are chelation

groups that use it, but only with a detailed protocol. I started Bee's protocol

instead.

C.

> >

> > Bee, following are some of the ALA products I found on iHerb.

[Guest guest]

> Dear Pam,

>

> You get plenty of ALA on my program.

>

> Bee

If I weren't sitting here with severe burning pain in my feet and somewhat less

severe pain all the way up into my buttocks, and if this didn't interfere with

my mobility and my ability to work and pay bills, I might agree with you

wholeheartedly.

But since I have lost the equivalent of several days' work during this pay

period because the pain has interfered with all this (despite taking low-level

pain meds like Excedrin and aspirin, and despite soaking my feet), I find that I

must respectfully disagree.

From what I have read about the different supplements, I don't think there is

anything wrong with Trader Joe's ALA. It seems to me that you just do not want

me taking something not on the list of supplements.

I appreciate the amount of thought you have put into this plan, and I intend to

follow your diet as closely as possible... however, I am going to get the pain

under control so that I can function. If this means slowing down my healing,

well, it's not the only thing on my plate right now.

I have previously explained that I need to be able to function so as to earn a

living, and that I don't have the luxury of having someone else support me.

Although my sig. other is working now, he wasn't for several years, and that put

me further behind when my pay cut occurred. And I cannot function very well and

concentrate when I get shooting/burning pains in my legs, or when climbing a

flight of stairs is a major project.

Pam Maltzman

[Guest guest]

, This is the first I've ever heard that ALA will pick up mercury.

I read about its use, and have previously used it myself, to quiet down diabetic

neuropathic pain in the legs.

The healing reaction I was getting when I went off the ALA was MUCH worse than

anything I had experienced in terms of leg pain before. I had it last year,

when I had only been on the diet for a little while, and I was in the hospital

for a few days.

I got it again over a week ago, after I had done a bit too much walking on

shopping day.

If you haven't been following my story, I am having GREAT difficulty with the

pain. It gets particularly intense in my feet and ankles, but I get some pain

all the way up into my buttocks. When the pain is really intense, it is hard to

sleep.

I need to be able to walk and to climb stairs. I have already lost several

days' work because of the pain... yet it is recommended that I do not take a

painkiller (aside from white willow bark) or ALA. The willow bark doesn't do

all that much for the pain, unfortunately.

Excuse me, but I DO have to earn a living so as to pay the bills here. This

much pain is a distraction from work, and even sitting is uncomfortable. Since

I have already lost several days of work in this pay period, my paycheck is

going to be fairly small.

I am not going off the diet, but I AM going to get the pain under control so

that I can function.

Maybe after we are able to move to Northern Arizona, where the cost of living is

a LOT lower, and where I will refuse to live in anything but a one-level house,

I will have the luxury of going through this much pain without major painkillers

or ALA. Maybe I can stock up on food and just sit there like a blob of pain,

enduring the pain until it goes away. I am not willing to do that here where I

am now.

Not trying to be difficult. Just saying this is how it is.

The breast cyst drainage was nowhere near as painful. It was annoying, but also

kind of interesting in a teenage pimple-squeezing kind of way. It didn't

interfere with my ability to get my job done, or to walk around and do things.

My sig. other does not drive due to low vision, so he cannot substitute for me

in food shopping. He's also not on this diet. He eats a lot of junk and

processed foods.

Pam Maltzman

>

> Hi Pam,

>

> I quit ALA when I heard it will pick up mercury, but does not carry it out of

the body, it only dumps it somewhere else in the body. There are chelation

groups that use it, but only with a detailed protocol. I started Bee's protocol

instead.

>

> C.

[Guest guest]

>

> , This is the first I've ever heard that ALA will pick up mercury.

>

@@ Hi Pam,

is correct about the statement about ALA chelating and distributing

Mercury throughout the body.

ALA has been found to increase significantly in the brain, lung, heart, liver,

and muscle tissue.

Here is the link, below, for you to review @ your leisure. Scroll down to bottom

of third paragraph.

LINK: http://tinyurl.com/32husfd

However, I sympathize & relate to where you are coming from, Pam. I endured a

similar scenario, in regards to working with pain while tolerating constant

manipulative harassment from my past employer for 2-3 yrs. I found my niche /

scapegoat, if you will, last year and resigned.

Pam, for pain in conjunction to hot Epsom salt baths, you might look into

Boswellia complex from Mediherb which contains ginger, tumeric, celery root and

the wonderful remedy called Boswellia.

Its intent was literally to drive out the cold from painful and stiff joints and

replace it with the feeling of warmth, movement and flexibility. Numerous

scientific studies have confirmed the remarkable " anti-inflammatory " effect of

Boswellia extracts.

Here is the link, below, from Bee's files. Scroll to bottom of page :

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/arth3.php

Boswellia Complex link here : http://tinyurl.com/37n3w8x

Another natural pain reliever/ anti-inflamatory is suppose to be Oil of Oregano.

Bee's link below.

Oregano oil link here : http://tinyurl.com/2vyyaxv

Nevertheless, Pam, just do the best you can, that is all you can do.

Lastly, do keep your stress levels low when you can. Since stress will amplify

pain. Just a friendly reminder. I'm well acquainted with this, as I'm sure

you are, as well ;-]

Thus to counter some of that stress, I recommend Epsom salt baths and relaxing

teas i.e chamomile, passion flower (more potent) ...etc in conjunction with the

diet and one of the above natural pain relievers.

Warm Regards,

Ed

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam. This sounds like intermittent claudication which is a common

'complication' in Diabetics.

My Mum (type 1) had it and was in awful pain at times as did my Dad (type 2) and

I (type 2) have also had it to a limited degree. I also used to get 'gouty'

toes - awful sharp needle pains in my toes that was difficult to cope with at

times.

Over two years ago my digestion finally collapsed after years of digestive

issues - I could hardly eat anything (my Diabetic 'Specialist' had given me

Byetta, which trashed my digestion big-time).

I discovered, after the medical profession could find 'nothing wrong' that I was

extremely intolerant to gluten so I dumped it (and dairy which I knew I was

intolerant of) and within a few hours the awful stomach pain and raging diarrhea

had gone.

I recognised that to get well I had to radically clean up my diet so adopted the

Specific Carb Diet (SCD) which helped a lot but still was not quite the full

answer. Whilst certain things did not resolve and in fact, got worse, other

things did, specifically the gouty toes and neuralgia (My IBS, RLS and burning

feet went shortly after).

Now I am on Bee's diet I am improving in the other areas too - the purer the

diet and lower the carb obviously the better for me (and great for BS control

too and reducing my med/insulin to a fraction).

I am also getting weird retracing things too and my sleep has been quite

distressed of late. But then after years of the IBS, chronic restless legs,

burning feet and a host of other ailments including Diabetes it's not

surprising.

I get where you are coming from - it is difficult to function sometimes when you

have all this stuff going on. I thought the detoxing was never going to end,

but it has.

Are you taking enough salt, and are you doing the Epsom salt baths? Is it worth

upping the magnesium a little to see if that helps? ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid, not

to be confused with Alpha Linolenic Acid for anyone who doesn't realise there

are two different ALA's!) is naturally found in meat, particularly organ meats,

like liver and heart and in Brewers/Nutritional yeast, so making sure you are

getting enough protein and perhaps taking Nutritional yeast instead of B-complex

might help too, if you are not doing so already. Do you make the bone broths?

Have you tried any acupuncture to help it or have a TENS machine you could

access?

I am sorry if these are things you have already thought of or are doing, but I

am just thinking of some 'shot in the dark' ideas to try and help.

Regards,

Ali.

If you haven't been following my story, I am having GREAT difficulty with the

pain. It gets particularly intense in my feet and ankles, but I get some pain

all the way up into my buttocks. When the pain is really intense, it is hard to

sleep.

I need to be able to walk and to climb stairs. I have already lost several

days' work because of the pain... yet it is recommended that I do not take a

painkiller (aside from white willow bark) or ALA. The willow bark doesn't do

all that much for the pain, unfortunately.

Excuse me, but I DO have to earn a living so as to pay the bills here. This

much pain is a distraction from work, and even sitting is uncomfortable. Since

I have already lost several days of work in this pay period, my paycheck is

going to be fairly small.

I am not going off the diet, but I AM going to get the pain under control so

that I can function.

Pam Maltzman

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee, where does the ALA come from on your programme?

i am taking ALA from kirkmans they say on there bottles that it contains no

soya.

there ALA is very white powder in caps.

Dudley

> >

> > Bee, following are some of the ALA products I found on iHerb. I will say

that none of these seemed to list the source of their ALA either. Do any of

these look acceptable?

> >

> > What I want to use are capsules which each contain either 100 mg or 200 mg

of ALA. All of the following are pure ALA with no other supplements in the mix,

but they do not specifically state where the ALA came from.

> >

> <snip>

>

[Guest guest]

Thats completely untrue, according to Dr hall cutler www.noamalgam.com

he is a biochemist witha phd and he has proved its a really good chelator of

mercury and does remove mercury from the body if take according to its half

life.Every 3 hrs for a min of 3 days and 2 nights around the clock.

he also says its dangerous to tke this with mercury ( silver fillings in

Dudley

> > >

> > > Bee, following are some of the ALA products I found on iHerb.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee, where does the ALA come from on your programme?

> i am taking ALA from kirkmans they say on there bottles that it contains no

soya.> there ALA is very white powder in caps.

>

+++Hi Dudley,

Alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) is a type of omega-3 fatty acid found in plants, i.e.

flaxseed oil and others.

It is similar to the omega-3 fatty acids that are in fish oil and cod liver oil

[eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA)].

However ALA from plants must be converted by the body into EPA and DHA, which

are the forms of Omega 3 our bodies can utilize and need.

Most unhealthy people are not able to make that conversion so it is important to

get Omega 3 in EPA and DHA forms, which is in fish oil, taken along with

vitamins A & D, or Cod liver oil, which includes EPA, DHA, vitamins A & D as I

recommend.

Omega 3s (EPA+DHA) are also in meats, eggs, and butter. Fish are a great source

of Omega 3. ALA plant sources on my diet include: broccoli, cauliflower, green

beans, romaine lettuce, collard greens and probably many others.

Here's the three supplement doses I recommend, in addition to foods on my diet,

since Omega 3 (EPA + DHA) works together with vitamins A & D, and of course with

vitamin E, saturated fats and other nutrients:

Vitamin A: 20,000 IU - 30,000 IU

Vitamin D: 800 IU - 1,200 IU

Omega-3: 2,000 mg - 3,000 mg (EPA+DHA)

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Thats completely untrue, according to Dr hall cutler www.noamalgam.com

he is a biochemist witha phd and he has proved its a really good chelator of

mercury and does remove mercury from the body if take according to its half

life.Every 3 hrs for a min of 3 days and 2 nights around the clock.

+++Hi Dudley,

Because ALA, which is from plants, must be converted into a form that is useable

by our bodies, which is EPA & DHA, it is much better to chelate out all heavy

metals with my program with its high good fats, along with vitamins A, D & E,

EPA + DHA (omega 3) - of course no nutrients work in isolation of many others so

that's why this program works - see Heavy Metals, Natural Chelation:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/mn16.php

There are 2 pathways whereby the body processes all fats and oils and if you are

interested, and can get through a very technical article, read Tripping Down the

Prostaglandin Pathways:

http://trit.us/knowyourfats/tripping.html

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Thats completely untrue, according to Dr hall cutler www.noamalgam.com

he is a biochemist witha phd and he has proved its a really good chelator of

mercury and does remove mercury from the body if take according to its half

life.Every 3 hrs for a min of 3 days and 2 nights around the clock.

>

> he also says its dangerous to take this with mercury ( silver fillings in

>

> Dudley

>

@@ Hi Dudley,

Pamela is referring to Alpha-Lipoic Acid (ALA) according to her posts and not

" Alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) " .

Alpha-linolenic acid is a type of omega-3 fatty acid found in plants.

Alpha-linolenic acid is not the same as alpha-lipoic acid, an antioxidant that

helps the body turn glucose into energy.

Just so we mutually understand which ALA we are referencing.

The initial link I submitted in regards to stating Alpha-Lipoic Acid (ALA)

picks up / chelates & distributes mercury in the body is valid.

Here is the link, below, for you to review @ your leisure. Scroll down to bottom

of third paragraph.

LINK: http://tinyurl.com/32husfd

However, as Dr hall cutler states, in the article you submitted, he uses

DMSA combined with Alpha-Lipoic Acid (ALA). Which are both chelators. This is

effective in chelating Mercury provided both are used together in conjunction or

possible distribution of Mercury could occur.

Here is brief info on ALA, DMSA & DMP's :

DMPS is an experimental drug, legally available in the USA only from medical

researchers under special FDA license.

DMSA is available for prescription under a general FDA approval, though its

primary approval is for eliminating a body burden of lead, not mercury.

Alpha lipoic acid is a naturally occurring compound found in very small amounts

in potatoes and other foods, and is available over-the-counter as a food

supplement.

The above aforementioned information I partially referenced here below, from

Curezone, which I feel is the epicenter of health research & information.

Anyway here is some thorough information on the issue.

Alpha-Lipoic Acid and R-Alpha Lipoic Acid for Mercury Chelation

LINK: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=957866

Nonetheless, Dudley, as Bee states and the article above also alludes , its

better to utilize natural approaches.

In Bee's words, better to chelate out all heavy metals with my program with its

high good fats, along with vitamins A, D & E,EPA + DHA (omega 3). of course no

nutrients work in isolation.

Kind Regards,

Ed

[Guest guest]

Yes, I read that you do not take it with the fillings, which I still have, and

taking them out can cause more problems, besides the high cost involved. I have

6 or so. I mentioned there is a protocol to chelate with ALA.

C.

> >

> > Hi Pam,

> >

> > I quit ALA when I heard it will pick up mercury, but does not carry it out

of the body, it only dumps it somewhere else in the body. There are chelation

groups that use it, but only with a detailed protocol. I started Bee's protocol

instead.

> >

> > C.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ed,

i was also referring to alpha lipoic acid.

And cutler says that 3mnths after any exposure to mercury its fine to use ALA

only as the body pool of mercury would be lower by then.

so after filling removal dmsa is fine for 3 mnths or so and then you can add ALA

as well or just use ALA.

If you go to the adult heavy metal chelation group or frequent dose chelation

group they will verify this.

As long as ALA is taken every 3 hrs and its after 3 mnths at least ALA is fine

by itself.

Dudley

> >

> > Thats completely untrue, according to Dr hall cutler

www.noamalgam.com he is a biochemist witha phd and he has proved its a really

good chelator of mercury and does remove mercury from the body if take according

to its half life.Every 3 hrs for a min of 3 days and 2 nights around the clock.

> >

> > he also says its dangerous to take this with mercury ( silver fillings in

> >

> > Dudley

> >

>

> @@ Hi Dudley,

>

> Pamela is referring to Alpha-Lipoic Acid (ALA) according to her posts and not

" Alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) " .

>

> Alpha-linolenic acid is a type of omega-3 fatty acid found in plants.

>

> Alpha-linolenic acid is not the same as alpha-lipoic acid, an antioxidant that

helps the body turn glucose into energy.

>

> Just so we mutually understand which ALA we are referencing.

>

> The initial link I submitted in regards to stating Alpha-Lipoic Acid

(ALA) picks up / chelates & distributes mercury in the body is valid.

>

> Here is the link, below, for you to review @ your leisure. Scroll down to

bottom of third paragraph.

>

> LINK: http://tinyurl.com/32husfd

>

> However, as Dr hall cutler states, in the article you submitted, he

uses DMSA combined with Alpha-Lipoic Acid (ALA). Which are both chelators. This

is effective in chelating Mercury provided both are used together in conjunction

or possible distribution of Mercury could occur.

>

> Here is brief info on ALA, DMSA & DMP's :

>

> DMPS is an experimental drug, legally available in the USA only from medical

researchers under special FDA license.

>

> DMSA is available for prescription under a general FDA approval, though its

primary approval is for eliminating a body burden of lead, not mercury.

>

> Alpha lipoic acid is a naturally occurring compound found in very small

amounts in potatoes and other foods, and is available over-the-counter as a food

supplement.

>

> The above aforementioned information I partially referenced here below, from

Curezone, which I feel is the epicenter of health research & information.

>

> Anyway here is some thorough information on the issue.

>

> Alpha-Lipoic Acid and R-Alpha Lipoic Acid for Mercury Chelation

>

> LINK: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=957866

>

> Nonetheless, Dudley, as Bee states and the article above also alludes , its

better to utilize natural approaches.

>

> In Bee's words, better to chelate out all heavy metals with my program with

its high good fats, along with vitamins A, D & E,EPA + DHA (omega 3). of course

no nutrients work in isolation.

>

> Kind Regards,

> Ed

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Ed,

>

> i was also referring to alpha lipoic acid.

> And cutler says that 3mnths after any exposure to mercury its fine to use ALA

only as the body pool of mercury would be lower by then.

>

> so after filling removal dmsa is fine for 3 mnths or so and then you can add

ALA as well or just use ALA.

>

> If you go to the adult heavy metal chelation group or frequent dose chelation

group they will verify this.

>

> As long as ALA is taken every 3 hrs and its after 3 mnths at least ALA is fine

by itself.

>

> Dudley

>

@@ Hi Dudley,

Insofar with the constant consensus of data I've reviewed in regards to ALA and

it's warnings of not to use it alone , due to possible distribution of Mercury

..... I'll agree to disagree with your position on the issue.

Hey, but that is ok. We all may not agree all the time with each other.

Nonetheless, I feel comfortable utilizing the natural fats in the program to

chelate the metals from my body without possible ramifications.

Therefore, the usage of DMSA and/or ALA are irrelevant. At least for myself.

Dudley, it should also be noted, some people here cured their Candida and/or

have made great progress even without removing their Amalgam fillings (

Mercury).

However, after one has strengthened their immune system and dealt with their

Candida issue, it seems reasonable to have the Amalgam fillings removed. Thus,

empowering one's immune system further.

In conclusion, the program evidently is effective at addressing Mercury,

Fluoride or other similar issues. For one's notes, Lecithin found in healthy

fat will also chelate fluoride.

Paraphrasing Bee, all nutrients & supplements work in unison and not separately.

I have nothing more to add to the subject of ALA. Thanks for the exchange on

the subject, Dudley. It was an intriguing subject to examine.

Take care,

Ed

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I was just helping Pam find ALA online in America. Someone, I believe Zahavi suggested the brand Metabolic Maintenance. I just looked in my docs website. I always get ALA from here since everything under her name has been formulated by her and is of highest quality and I noticed that her ALA is much cheaper (and is German-made). It costs about the same for 90 capsules of hers (also 300mg) as 50 capsules from Metabolic Maintenance on Amazon.com.

If you want to check it out, since we have been talking about costs of supplements, go to bevkovitamins.com. You may have to create an account, but that is easy. She calls it Lipoic Acid, but it is the ALA we all take. That was quite a shocker to me since I just assumed I paid a premium to get it from her.