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Hi Pam,

I hope we are not to be depressed for long. You are like me, almost frozen,

as to what to do. I am all ready to relate to blood typing and then have to

ask " Is my hypothyroidism (and possibly an adrenal sluggishness) going to

throw me into some unique category where Nothing that applies to regular

people will work for Me " . It's all so complicated.

I relate to re jn's feeling that there aren't enough concerned people. I

don't want to be the only one who worries. I am stuck with the job. I

really need to get healthy and speed up, and so operate at the level of my

thinking and caring in spite of inactivity or unawareness of others.

I love the diet. When i avoid, then indulge-i feel the difference. Where

before er4yt, i just felt generally lousy. I can feel that i am on the right

track. I am so thankful for the lady who wrote that she felt certain

emotions when eating wheat-exactly like me. So i know i am not making up my

" crazy " suspicions.

Thanks for being such a support/I know all read these together so it's for

all i've talked to and others..

Ann

in Florida

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I've got that site on my Favorites List. It is especially good. We are

concerned about the claims that soy is detrimental to hypothyroids. There

are opposing claims also. Try to go slow and find out for sure. Someone is

wrong. 50/50 chance that soy is okay. But this site called About.com (a lot

less letters to type in) is very helpful.

Ann

in Florida

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Hi Ann,

I agree with your statement: " Try to go slow and find out for sure. " Dr.

D'Adamo agrees that there are exceptions to the guidelines for blood types.

The blood types of your ancesters play a role also; for instance, my mother

is type O and my dad was type A. With regards to soy, Dr. D'Adamo says it's

neutral for us, though it's highly beneficial for As. I think moderation in

all things is a big factor for us to consider, especially in regards to

neutral foods. Highly beneficial foods have a medicinal effect on our

bodies, but there's still a need for moderation. As the doctor points out

about beef, lamb, etc. on the highly beneficial list for us: we should eat

it in small quantities--2 to 4 ozs. servings if you want to lose weight and

a maximum of 6 ozs. if you don't. That's not a lot of meat! My husband and

I always share a steak because they are generally 8-16 ozs. Too much meat,

not only increase weight gain, it also causes stomach irritation and

possibly ulcers (p55,ER4YT). The only food that the doctor seems to advocate

in " large " quantities are vegetables. If I remember correctly we should eat

3-5 cups of raw veggies, PLUS 3-5 cups of cooked or steamed veggies a day!

Now that's a lot of food, and I find it difficult to eat that much. But, I

think if I did (and I'm trying), I would lose this extra weight I'm carrying

around! Veggies are critical to our diet and if there's a food that

shouldn't be eaten in moderation in type O diet, it's vegetables. Before I

read ER4YT, I had spent 30 plus years eating organically grown whole wheat

products, honey (very little sugar), hormone free milk and meats when I

could get them, etc., and I became highly allergic to chemicals (to the

point that I feel sure I had developed chronic fatigue syndrome), started

getting stiff, aching joints.......and all the while wondering how I could

be sick eating all this " good " stuff and watching people eat fast foods,

smoking, etc., who seemed much healthier! Now I know that many of the foods

that the government, wheat producers, etc., say are good for me are not good

for me. So, now I have to try to undo all those years of eating harmful

foods! Life is interesting, huh! TAke care. Louise

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Re, I just read at a sight for thyroid, that soy inhibits its production.

Here is the url

http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/howto/htthyroid-fertility

..htm

It is pretty depressing. It is like we cannot eat anything. I love my

meat and feel great when I am on it, and even though I eat range fed

beef, I am wondering if the cow's hormones are messing up my hormones.

Yes, I do understand how you feel about having to be on guard about

everything. It sure is depressing. Pam.

[Guest guest]

Ann,

Were you diagnosed with chronic fatigue? A friend of mine was by and

endocrinologist and this friend said I probably had it too. I had to drag

myself out of bed and go through the day and crawl back into bed at night.

A few times (after being assaulted by people with strong perfumes), I had to

crawl back into bed during the day. Of course, overwork and too many

stressed didn't help either. I had 4 children at home, worked 20 hours a

week and went half time (some times more) to college. I did this for 8

years! In the midst of it is when I became allmost lifeless!! In

retrospect, I really abused my body.

Thanks for responding. Take care. Louise

><< wondering how I could

> be sick eating all this " good " stuff and watching people eat fast foods

> >>

>

>Hello Louise,

>

>Thank you for sharing. It helps. Don't think i wasn't wondering how those

>people could feel so up to everything, and me on my whole wheat real food

>kick was walking dead. I'd occasionally go to mc 's and feel like

>i'd

>be better off trading bodies with nearly anyone there, except the men of

>course. ;}

>Also, i'd go walking and see enormous people, very pregnant women, very

>elderly people walking with more smoothness and well-being than me. I was

>literally dragging. Felt no oxygen, no reserve of energy. Just dragged.

>It's enough to get a person to get some help. There were people who were

>in

>apparent worse health than i apparently was in, so i looked into it, and

>have

>thus far found this diet, and a lead to an endocrinologist (homeopathic).

>It's a breakthrough. Synthroid, (even 200mg/day) isn't quite helping

>enough.

> Although my doctor says i'm fine. It's too high of a dose, for me to

>still feel so slow and lethargic. Especially the moods. I still feel my

>real self in there, hopeful, happy, just cooped up in a sluggish body.

>More

>like a cocoon than a vehicle.

>Obedience to the diet and exercise is sporadic. But i believe in it. It

>makes total sense. I've read a lot. It correlates with other stuff i've

>read. True scientific evidence will affirm itself in true work done by

>others.

>

>I know, i know...

>Just don't get me going...

>

> Ann

>in Florida

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In a message dated 4/8/00 1:20:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

munio7@... writes:

<< wondering how I could

be sick eating all this " good " stuff and watching people eat fast foods >>

Hello Louise,

Thank you for sharing. It helps. Don't think i wasn't wondering how those

people could feel so up to everything, and me on my whole wheat real food

kick was walking dead. I'd occasionally go to mc 's and feel like i'd

be better off trading bodies with nearly anyone there, except the men of

course. ;}

Also, i'd go walking and see enormous people, very pregnant women, very

elderly people walking with more smoothness and well-being than me. I was

literally dragging. Felt no oxygen, no reserve of energy. Just dragged.

It's enough to get a person to get some help. There were people who were in

apparent worse health than i apparently was in, so i looked into it, and have

thus far found this diet, and a lead to an endocrinologist (homeopathic).

It's a breakthrough. Synthroid, (even 200mg/day) isn't quite helping enough.

Although my doctor says i'm fine. It's too high of a dose, for me to

still feel so slow and lethargic. Especially the moods. I still feel my

real self in there, hopeful, happy, just cooped up in a sluggish body. More

like a cocoon than a vehicle.

Obedience to the diet and exercise is sporadic. But i believe in it. It

makes total sense. I've read a lot. It correlates with other stuff i've

read. True scientific evidence will affirm itself in true work done by

others.

I know, i know...

Just don't get me going...

Ann

in Florida

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In a message dated 4/8/2000 9:01:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

MAMZEL150@... writes:

<< But i believe in it. It

makes total sense. I've read a lot. It correlates with other stuff i've

read. True scientific evidence will affirm itself in true work done by

others.

>>

I often wonder why Dr. D. or the ER diet is never mentioned on talk shows

when they have different well-known Drs. discussing their ideas and findings.

I have seen Weil, Dr. Atkins, some other vitamin guru (I can't

remember his name), etc. on shows like Larry King, but I have never heard Dr.

D. or the ER diet mentioned.

The only time it has ever been mentioned is on a syndicated phone in show

with a Dr. Gabe Mirkin and he said that it was " bunk " and there was no

scientific evidence that there was a difference in blood types (of course, he

is always pushing his whole grain way of eating).

I just wonder why it isn't talked about more? There seems to be alot of us

using it and the book has sold well, but it hasn't been mentioned in the

popular media.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Really, i haven't been diagnosed with CFS, just severely low thyroid, which

is somewhat improved by 200mg synthroid daily. Still, i am fatigued,

fighting depression, and have NO momentum or incentive, except once in a

while. I haven't been tested for CFS yet. My suspician is low adrenal

function, since my perk did not come back with synthroid.

Thanks, it's nice to feel your concern..

bye,

Ann

in Florida

[Guest guest]

Same here Sharon. But the er4yt books are selling, and people are staying

with the diet, living its practicality.

After i read Dr Dadamo's books, i knew how to divide all the advice i read

and saw as often relating to another blood type. I could then see this

advice working for one person and not another, and the reasons why.

There is a lot of research i read on metabolism related diet, and ways of

relating to food. So before blood typing, we know people with a strong

dominant thyroid gland, would do better to avoid caffeine and sweets, and

carbs. They easily get into the habit, innocently, of getting that " lift "

from sweets, caffeine, carbs, which jumpstart their thyroid. Eventually,

they would suffer exhaustion of thyroid and be forced on the Dr Dadamo's

eating type or experience predictable diseases. So the metabolism -related

and the blood type - related research sort of came from different places, but

came up with some of the same answers. Anyway, i see it from two sides now

and it's sad how we don't know how delicate we really are. How many things

we didn't know which could have helped us before we have to climb out of some

health problem.

Ann

in Florida

[Guest guest]

oh great! now what?

Re: RE

> Re, I just read at a sight for thyroid, that soy inhibits its production.

> Here is the url

> http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/howto/htthyroid-fertility

> .htm

>

> It is pretty depressing. It is like we cannot eat anything. I love my

> meat and feel great when I am on it, and even though I eat range fed

> beef, I am wondering if the cow's hormones are messing up my hormones.

>

> Yes, I do understand how you feel about having to be on guard about

> everything. It sure is depressing. Pam.

>

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adrenal sluggishnes is normal for O's...so is low thyroid so ER should help.

sparrow

Re: Re: RE

> Hi Pam,

>

> I hope we are not to be depressed for long. You are like me, almost

frozen,

> as to what to do. I am all ready to relate to blood typing and then have

to

> ask " Is my hypothyroidism (and possibly an adrenal sluggishness) going to

> throw me into some unique category where Nothing that applies to regular

> people will work for Me " . It's all so complicated.

>

> I relate to re jn's feeling that there aren't enough concerned people. I

> don't want to be the only one who worries. I am stuck with the job. I

> really need to get healthy and speed up, and so operate at the level of my

> thinking and caring in spite of inactivity or unawareness of others.

>

> I love the diet. When i avoid, then indulge-i feel the difference. Where

> before er4yt, i just felt generally lousy. I can feel that i am on the

right

> track. I am so thankful for the lady who wrote that she felt certain

> emotions when eating wheat-exactly like me. So i know i am not making up

my

> " crazy " suspicions.

>

> Thanks for being such a support/I know all read these together so it's for

> all i've talked to and others..

>

>

> Ann

> in Florida

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/8/00 5:44:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

pfs1958@... writes:

<< Is there a test for sluggish adrenal gland activity and what are the

symptoms ? >>

and I await the collective wisdom in this area. I sure would like to

rule it out or start treating it.

Ann

in Florida

[Guest guest]

Is there a test for sluggish adrenal gland activity and what are the

symptoms ?

.

Re: Re: RE

adrenal sluggishnes is normal for O's...so is low thyroid so ER should help.

sparrow

Re: Re: RE

> Hi Pam,

>

> I hope we are not to be depressed for long. You are like me, almost

frozen,

> as to what to do. I am all ready to relate to blood typing and then have

to

> ask " Is my hypothyroidism (and possibly an adrenal sluggishness) going to

> throw me into some unique category where Nothing that applies to regular

> people will work for Me " . It's all so complicated.

>

> I relate to re jn's feeling that there aren't enough concerned people. I

> don't want to be the only one who worries. I am stuck with the job. I

> really need to get healthy and speed up, and so operate at the level of my

> thinking and caring in spite of inactivity or unawareness of others.

>

> I love the diet. When i avoid, then indulge-i feel the difference. Where

> before er4yt, i just felt generally lousy. I can feel that i am on the

right

> track. I am so thankful for the lady who wrote that she felt certain

> emotions when eating wheat-exactly like me. So i know i am not making up

my

> " crazy " suspicions.

>

> Thanks for being such a support/I know all read these together so it's for

> all i've talked to and others..

>

>

> Ann

> in Florida

>

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[Guest guest]

Heh re, thank you for the sight. I will check it out today. Pam.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I checked out the fertility sight at thathomesight and came back

with nothing. Every word I typed in had no hits what so ever!!! How

frustrating. Thank you anyway, Pam.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

Good to hear from you again! Wow! Your symptoms sounded like the ones I

had for yearsssssss and still have a day occasionally when I feel almost

that bad. I was just reading an article today by Cliff Garner, PHD, a

holistic health facilitator and a professional kinesiology practitioner who

offers free articles through our group once a week. Did you get any of

them?? (You might try asking for this one if you didn't get it. His email

address: kosmik@...) He says Synthroid is a synthetic form of T4,

and if your body doesn't convert T4 to T3, Synthroid is useless. " Moreover,

taking Synthroid for a few years tends to inhibit the body's production of

thyroid hormones, aside from side effects, which can include severe

depression, panic attacks, and kidney problems. " He says if " one is going

to go the orthodox medical route the best thyroid medication for low thyroid

is Armour Desiccated Thyroid, a natural porcine thyroid product (but most

MDs are wedded to Synthroid and may balk if you ask for the Armour

Dessiccated Thyroid. " I don't mean to scare you, but from you say, the

thyroid medication isn't working. Dr. Garner recommends natural solutions

if you're interested. I will see if I have that email from him still and

send it to you if you don't have it. I printed it off so I think I erased

it!? He also says blood tests for low thyroid tests are accurate and the

best test is a basal body temperature test developed by Broda , MD who

studied thyroid problems for years!! If you want anymore info, please let

me know.

Sweet Dreams. Louise

>>Really, i haven't been diagnosed with CFS, just severely low thyroid,

>>which

>is somewhat improved by 200mg synthroid daily. Still, i am fatigued,

>fighting depression, and have NO momentum or incentive, except once in a

>while. I haven't been tested for CFS yet. My suspician is low adrenal

>function, since my perk did not come back with synthroid.

>

>Thanks, it's nice to feel your concern..

>bye,

>

> Ann

>in Florida

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Hi ,

According to one book I'm looking in, the self-test for adrenal gland

function is to take your blood pressure first while lying down (rest for 5

minutes first). Stand up and immediately take it again; if your standing

blood pressure is lower, suspect reduced adrenal gland function. The degree

to how much the pressure drops upon standing (if it does) is in proportion

to the degree of hypoadrenalism. Hope this helps. Louise

>

>Is there a test for sluggish adrenal gland activity and what are the

>symptoms ?

>

>.

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Thankyou for the information Louise.

Regards

.

RE: Re: RE

Hi ,

According to one book I'm looking in, the self-test for adrenal gland

function is to take your blood pressure first while lying down (rest for 5

minutes first). Stand up and immediately take it again; if your standing

blood pressure is lower, suspect reduced adrenal gland function. The degree

to how much the pressure drops upon standing (if it does) is in proportion

to the degree of hypoadrenalism. Hope this helps. Louise

>

>Is there a test for sluggish adrenal gland activity and what are the

>symptoms ?

>

>.

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Hi Louise,

I remember an Avon lady (district leader) who had that reaction to perfume.

She sure was in a funny profession. She had to model the perfume product.

So she always wore it behind her knees, where the scent would be there, but

never hit anyone directly. I thought pretty neat! Avon's PaviElle, by now

discontinued, i am sure, used to make me soo sick, headache and everything.

Ann

in Florida

[Guest guest]

Sherry, I first started having a problem with odors when I got pregnant with

my first child. My husband's aftershave affected me that way and it got

worse as the years went by. When my 2 daughters started using hairspray, it

affected me the same way. They had to start going outside to spray it! I'm

better now than I used to be but chemicals still give me a headache and

takes my energy! Hopefully, some day I won't be so supersensitive, but then

again, at least I know to get away from chemicals when they do that!! Louise

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Louise, sometimes I feel like telling people who wear those strong perfumes

how offensive the smell is coming from them. I have tried telling these

people that their perfume upsets me and make me sick and tired but they

don't take any notice which I find really strange because if someone told me

that surely I would stop wearing perfume. I used to wear perfume not any

more even my husband has now stopped wearing aftershave for me. If I near

someone who is wearing a strong perfume I say to myself I am not going to

let this affect me and I keep saying it. It has helped. Sherry

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>Subject: Re: Re: RE

>Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 07:24:35 PDT

>

> Ann,

>Were you diagnosed with chronic fatigue? A friend of mine was by and

>endocrinologist and this friend said I probably had it too. I had to drag

>myself out of bed and go through the day and crawl back into bed at night.

>A few times (after being assaulted by people with strong perfumes), I had

>to

>crawl back into bed during the day. Of course, overwork and too many

>stressed didn't help either. I had 4 children at home, worked 20 hours a

>week and went half time (some times more) to college. I did this for 8

>years! In the midst of it is when I became allmost lifeless!! In

>retrospect, I really abused my body.

>Thanks for responding. Take care. Louise

>

> ><< wondering how I could

> > be sick eating all this " good " stuff and watching people eat fast foods

> > >>

> >

> >Hello Louise,

> >

> >Thank you for sharing. It helps. Don't think i wasn't wondering how

>those

> >people could feel so up to everything, and me on my whole wheat real food

> >kick was walking dead. I'd occasionally go to mc 's and feel like

> >i'd

> >be better off trading bodies with nearly anyone there, except the men of

> >course. ;}

> >Also, i'd go walking and see enormous people, very pregnant women, very

> >elderly people walking with more smoothness and well-being than me. I

>was

> >literally dragging. Felt no oxygen, no reserve of energy. Just dragged.

> >It's enough to get a person to get some help. There were people who were

> >in

> >apparent worse health than i apparently was in, so i looked into it, and

> >have

> >thus far found this diet, and a lead to an endocrinologist (homeopathic).

> >It's a breakthrough. Synthroid, (even 200mg/day) isn't quite helping

> >enough.

> > Although my doctor says i'm fine. It's too high of a dose, for me to

> >still feel so slow and lethargic. Especially the moods. I still feel my

> >real self in there, hopeful, happy, just cooped up in a sluggish body.

> >More

> >like a cocoon than a vehicle.

> >Obedience to the diet and exercise is sporadic. But i believe in it. It

> >makes total sense. I've read a lot. It correlates with other stuff i've

> >read. True scientific evidence will affirm itself in true work done by

> >others.

> >

> >I know, i know...

> >Just don't get me going...

> >

> > Ann

> >in Florida

>

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