Kidney Stones

[Guest guest]

You may not have been taking enough of them. I am now up to 8 per day, hoping

to get better results with my 24 hour urine test. Calcium and citrates are way

too low, Oxalates way too high. Not enough of the calcium and citrates to bond

with the oxalates and carry them away. Just increasing my fluids has kept me

from forming any new stones in 2 years, in spite of the " failed " urine

tests.Marilyn Morin Colchester, Vermont

@...: staceyr@...: Thu, 10 Apr 2008

16:33:28 -0400Subject: Re: kidney stones

Just to let you all know, I was taking calcium citrate when I got kidney stones.

[Guest guest]

I experienced two kidney stones...one in each kidney about one year after

surgery....after these two episodes, I haven't experienced anymore. I assume it

was from the surgery since I had never had stones before...I now drink like a

fish!!

Marie Pittman

3/2001 MGB

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I recently had kidney stones.  Calcium deposits run in my family so I can't say

they were related to the MGB.  Thinking back, there really was nothing I did

that caused them.  I take calcium citrate as directly religiously and I drink

lots.  Things like this just happen - MGB or not.  I still take calcium citrate

as directed but I now drink lemonade as my beverage of choice.  It's supposed to

help prevent kidney stones. 

 Elinor R.

Florida

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I have had kidney stones. Actually, I was hospitalized for that reason on my 1

yr mgb b-day! The urologist told me that, yes, the chances were increased after

such surgery. Probably due in part to high protein, sodium diet & increased

calcium supplementation. While your body needs calcium to help prevent stones,

he said that calcium in the supplement form predisposed us to getting stones.

[Guest guest]

_laussie04@..._ (mailto:laussie04@...) writes: << I recently

had kidney stones. Calcium deposits run in my family so I can't say they were

related to the MGB. Thinking back, there really was nothing I did that

caused them.>>

I can't 'for sure' pin point what caused mine, but suffice it to say I never

had any history of kidney stones, nor does my family. My episode came on

without warning, while I was reading MGB posts about kidney stone attacks, no

less. From the onset of the attack to getting back home from the ER took 5 hrs

and boatloads of morphine. It was THE most excruciatingly painful experience

in my life, thus far.

Best regards,

Patty A

5'3 " , 253/144/???

8/25/03, MGB, Stsvl, Drs. R & Chery

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make sure that they SPECIALIZE in WLS patients !!! ***

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_laussie04@..._ (mailto:laussie04@...) writes: << I think

somebody needs to talk with your surgeon about the calcium citrate supplements.

Calcium citrate helps prevent calcium oxalate stones.>>

Sorry, but I'm not sure who you were addressing with this post, so I may be

out of turn in replying. Just for the record in my case, though, I have never

taken anything but Calcium Citrate w/Magnesium and Vit D and I still had my

first (and hopefully only) case of kidney stones 2 yrs post-MGB. As for my

surgeon, that would be Dr Rutledge, so now I'm really confused who your post

was meant for.

Best regards,

Patty A

5'3 " , 253/144/???

8/25/03, MGB, Stsvl, Drs. R & Chery

*** please choose your Plastic Surgeon wisely *** Avoid costly mistakes and

make sure that they SPECIALIZE in WLS patients !!! ***

12/2/04, TT & BA: 5/31/05, Arm tuck, donut lift, TT rev, Legs lipo: 8/25/05,

Thighs: Chlt, Dr.P.Tucker

8/16/06, *CORRECTIONS* to legs, Mastopexy w/implant removal: Chlt, Dr. S. Don

11/6/06, *CORRECTION replacement* of breast implants (AWESOME JOB)!: Chlt,

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[Guest guest]

I think somebody needs to talk with your surgeon about the calcium citrate

supplements.  Calcium citrate helps prevent calcium oxalate stones.

 Elinor R.

Florida

Dr. P

Post-Op (4/20/07)

5' 1 "

53 min./7' bypass

Surgery/Now/Goal

278/157/130

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Re:kidney stones

I have had kidney stones. Actually, I was hospitalized for that reason on my 1

yr mgb b-day! The urologist told me that, yes, the chances were increased after

such surgery. Probably due in part to high protein, sodium diet & increased

calcium supplementation. While your body needs calcium to help prevent stones,

he said that calcium in the supplement form predisposed us to getting stones.

[Guest guest]

I think somebody needs to talk with your surgeon about the calcium citrate

supplements.  Calcium citrate helps prevent calcium oxalate stones.

 Elinor R.

Florida

Dr. P

Post-Op (4/20/07)

5' 1 "

53 min./7' bypass

Surgery/Now/Goal

278/157/130

Reynolds-Family-Elinor.blogspot.com

Live, love and LAUGH!!!!

Re:kidney stones

I have had kidney stones. Actually, I was hospitalized for that reason on my 1

yr mgb b-day! The urologist told me that, yes, the chances were increased after

such surgery. Probably due in part to high protein, sodium diet & increased

calcium supplementation. While your body needs calcium to help prevent stones,

he said that calcium in the supplement form predisposed us to getting stones.

[Guest guest]

By surgeon, I meant urologist.  Sorry for the confusion.

 Elinor R.

Florida

Dr. P

Post-Op (4/20/07)

5' 1 "

53 min./7' bypass

Surgery/Now/Goal

278/157/130

Reynolds-Family-Elinor.blogspot.com

Live, love and LAUGH!!!!

Re: Re:kidney stones

_laussie04 (DOT) com_ (mailto:laussie04 (DOT) com) writes: << I think

somebody needs to talk with your surgeon about the calcium citrate supplements.

Calcium citrate helps prevent calcium oxalate stones.>>

Sorry, but I'm not sure who you were addressing with this post, so I may be

out of turn in replying. Just for the record in my case, though, I have never

taken anything but Calcium Citrate w/Magnesium and Vit D and I still had my

first (and hopefully only) case of kidney stones 2 yrs post-MGB. As for my

surgeon, that would be Dr Rutledge, so now I'm really confused who your post

was meant for.

Best regards,

Patty A

5'3 " , 253/144/???

8/25/03, MGB, Stsvl, Drs. R & Chery

*** please choose your Plastic Surgeon wisely *** Avoid costly mistakes and

make sure that they SPECIALIZE in WLS patients !!! ***

12/2/04, TT & BA: 5/31/05, Arm tuck, donut lift, TT rev, Legs lipo: 8/25/05,

Thighs: Chlt, Dr.P.Tucker

8/16/06, *CORRECTIONS* to legs, Mastopexy w/implant removal: Chlt, Dr. S. Don

11/6/06, *CORRECTION replacement* of breast implants (AWESOME JOB)!: Chlt,

Dr. S. Don

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I had to have stents put in because my ureter was too narrow to pass the

stones.  Spent some time in and out of the hospital with stents installed and

removed twice during the month of May.  My urologist recommends lemonade to help

keep the kidneys flushed.  Dr. P says that taking Citracal helps prevent stones

so I am pretty religious about taking all my vitamins and supplements

 Elinor R.

Florida

Dr. P

Post-Op (4/20/07)

5' 1 "

53 min./7' bypass

Surgery/Now/Goal

278/157/130

Reynolds-Family-Elinor.blogspot.com

Live, love and LAUGH!!!!

kidney stones

Hi everyone,

I've read posts about others who have had kidney stones. What kind of treatment

did you get? I ended up in a clinic Saturday night where they gave me a shot for

pain, a prescription for Cipro and one for 50 mg Dimerol for pain. This was by

far the worst pain I have ever had. I have passed 2 stones since then. Is there

anything I can drink/eat to help flush the kidneys? Anyone have any words of

advice? I have not taken but one of the pain pills beccause they make me feel so

stupid. I have taken quite a bit of Extra strength Tylenol, even though we are

not supposed to. Any ideas on that? Any info or helpful hints would be greatly

appreciated!

Thanks

C from VA

12/20/01 Dr. R - Statesville, NC

[Guest guest]

I have had kidney stone issues, and they are caused, in our case, by a lack of

calcium and citrate, causing too much oxelate (sp?) which would notmally get

absorbed by the calcium and pooped out. Thats the short version of the lecture

I got from my urologist. Since I learned that, I have begun taking Citracal at

least twice a day, eat several Tums a day, make sure I add calcium to my diet by

eating cheese, milk and extra yogurt. I sip, sip, sip water ALL DAY, with lemon

juice added to it. By increasing my water and calcium and citrates, I have not

had a new stone form in 2 years. I'm very happy about that.Marilyn Morin

Colchester, Vermont

@...: dnscuster@...: Tue, 2 Sep 2008

19:06:09 -0400Subject: kidney stones

Hi everyone,I've read posts about others who have had kidney stones. What kind

of treatment did you get? I ended up in a clinic Saturday night where they gave

me a shot for pain, a prescription for Cipro and one for 50 mg Dimerol for pain.

This was by far the worst pain I have ever had. I have passed 2 stones since

then. Is there anything I can drink/eat to help flush the kidneys? Anyone have

any words of advice? I have not taken but one of the pain pills beccause they

make me feel so stupid. I have taken quite a bit of Extra strength Tylenol, even

though we are not supposed to. Any ideas on that? Any info or helpful hints

would be greatly appreciated!ThanksC from VA12/20/01 Dr. R - Statesville,

NC

[Guest guest]

Lemonade works, but my MD told me not to buy the frozen concentrate stuff

because it is mostly lemon flavoring and has fewer actual lemons than Lemon

Pledge furniture polish! Add real lemon juice to whatever you buy.Marilyn Morin

Colchester, Vermont

@...: laussie04@...: Wed, 3 Sep 2008

07:32:41 -0700Subject: Re: kidney stones

I had to have stents put in because my ureter was too narrow to pass the stones.

Spent some time in and out of the hospital with stents installed and removed

twice during the month of May. My urologist recommends lemonade to help keep

the kidneys flushed. Dr. P says that taking Citracal helps prevent stones so I

am pretty religious about taking all my vitamins and supplements Elinor

R.FloridaDr. P Post-Op (4/20/07)5' 1 " 53 min./7'

bypassSurgery/Now/Goal278/157/130Reynolds-Family-Elinor.blogspot.com Live, love

and LAUGH!!!! kidney stonesHi everyone,I've read posts

about others who have had kidney stones. What kind of treatment did you get? I

ended up in a clinic Saturday night where they gave me a shot for pain, a

prescription for Cipro and one for 50 mg Dimerol for pain. This was by far the

worst pain I have ever had. I have passed 2 stones since then. Is there anything

I can drink/eat to help flush the kidneys? Anyone have any words of advice? I

have not taken but one of the pain pills beccause they make me feel so stupid. I

have taken quite a bit of Extra strength Tylenol, even though we are not

supposed to. Any ideas on that? Any info or helpful hints would be greatly

appreciated!ThanksC from VA12/20/01 Dr. R - Statesville, NC[Non-text

portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message

have been removed]

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Pat from RI here. I've had a history of stones, but since I've had my MGB it's

been much worse. My dr. and my specialist say that having a gastirc by-pass

makes us prone to develop them. First you have to have them analyzed (sp?),

because there are different kinds. My stones are uric acid on the inside but

have calcium on the outside. My specialist told me to drink a lot of lemonade to

help with the uric acid, and he put me on Alapurinal. I stopped taking it

because they just keep coming back, so I figured it wasn't helping anyway. I've

had 5 lipros, and I'm supposed to have surgery after the holidays to haveia very

large stone removed. It's not very painful now, because the larger they are,

the less chance they have of moving, which causes the pain. I can sympathize

with you , IT IS VERY PAINFUL........Let's hope you passed all your stones

and this is the end or it. If not I suggest you see a specialist who can help

you. Take care and be well.

Pat who had my MGB 7 years ago and would do the same thing again!

kidney stones

Hi everyone,

I've read posts about others who have had kidney stones. What kind of

treatment did you get? I ended up in a clinic Saturday night where they gave me

a shot for pain, a prescription for Cipro and one for 50 mg Dimerol for pain.

This was by far the worst pain I have ever had. I have passed 2 stones since

then. Is there anything I can drink/eat to help flush the kidneys? Anyone have

any words of advice? I have not taken but one of the pain pills beccause they

make me feel so stupid. I have taken quite a bit of Extra strength Tylenol, even

though we are not supposed to. Any ideas on that? Any info or helpful hints

would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

C from VA

12/20/01 Dr. R - Statesville, NC

[Guest guest]

drink orange juice or grapefruit juice.  It breaks down  what ever is forming

the stones.

I had " lithotripsy " to smash my stones because they wouldn't pass.  I was also

told that it was the tums that gave them to me.  I had stones 3 years after MGB.

Miriam

From: Custer <dnscuster@...>

Subject: kidney stones

Received: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 7:06 PM

Hi everyone,

I've read posts about others who have had kidney stones. What kind of treatment

did you get? I ended up in a clinic Saturday night where they gave me a shot

for pain, a prescription for Cipro and one for 50 mg Dimerol for pain. This was

by far the worst pain I have ever had. I have passed 2 stones since then. Is

there anything I can drink/eat to help flush the kidneys? Anyone have any words

of advice? I have not taken but one of the pain pills beccause they make me

feel so stupid. I have taken quite a bit of Extra strength Tylenol, even though

we are not supposed to. Any ideas on that? Any info or helpful hints would be

greatly appreciated!

Thanks

C from VA

12/20/01 Dr. R - Statesville, NC

[Guest guest]

i'm 11 months out and have kidney stones.

I have had two kidney stone episodes over the last 17 years so this MAY be

just me. I'm doing the " 24 hour pee test (collection) " today to see if they can

be

identified. I've passed one and have two more in my kidney that are too small

to zap. This post has been VERY helpful. I love water with lemon but i havent

been

drinking that. I will now.

BTW I'm really good about taking my Citrical

Oh Well, we'll figure it out.

Thanks for all your posts

in Philly

9/28/07

Dr. P

211/157/?

>

> Hi everyone,

> I've read posts about others who have had kidney stones. What kind of

treatment did

you get? I ended up in a clinic Saturday night where they gave me a shot for

pain, a

prescription for Cipro and one for 50 mg Dimerol for pain. This was by far the

worst pain I

have ever had. I have passed 2 stones since then. Is there anything I can

drink/eat to help

flush the kidneys? Anyone have any words of advice? I have not taken but one

of the pain

pills beccause they make me feel so stupid. I have taken quite a bit of Extra

strength

Tylenol, even though we are not supposed to. Any ideas on that? Any info or

helpful hints

would be greatly appreciated!

> Thanks

> C from VA

> 12/20/01 Dr. R - Statesville, NC

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well hello fellow MGB's,

I'm there with you on kidney stones. The month of July I had horrible pain dead

center of my lower abdomen(not back or side). Finally had to go to ER with the

pain.After 7 1/2 hours laying on ER floor they found out what was causing the

pain. A kidney stone the size of the end of your thumb.Yep that big.

Kidney Dr. said it had been in the bend where the tube meets the kidney for a

least a year or 2. I had had no problems up till that day. I had to have it

laser blasted via surgery the next week. When they flushed the remanents, two

pieces when back into my kidney. I had to have shunt for 2 weeks. Those 2 pieces

didn't come out.

Went this past Wednesday to have lipitrispy to get those busted. Well I had been

praying and everyone I knew had been praying for those two stones to be gone.

Well gone they were. Doctor said I had to have had pain passing them. Nope none.

I've got a very high tolerance to pain. Guess he believes me now. God took the

pain and stones away.I did tell Dr. Next time I tell you I'm in pain you know

how bad pain must be.

Now I called Dr. P while I was on the floor in ER. He told me exactly what I

had.Ask me if I was taking the Citracal with citrate in it? Nope, well we are

suppose to take 3 a day(1200mg). This causes the oslates that makes kidney

stones not to bind together. Thus no kidney stones. He said the oslates come

from good food. And since we have absorbing problems we would get kidney stones

with out the citrate. So are you doing this? I wasn't but am now. Kidney Dr.

also said the same thing.

Just thought I would pass this along. I think some if not all of us don't know

for sure what we should be taking each day since MGB. Maybe we need monthly

reminders via this message board. What Vits., and supplements we need daily. And

what kind of blood work to do each year. We all tend to get slack from time to

time. That is human nature.

Wanda Jordan

MGb 8/2/05

Dr.P Spring Branch Houston Tx.

298/146

size 28 size 12 now

[Guest guest]

i have two stones sitting in my kidney but one has been acting up

YUCK!!!! Need to call the urologist tomorrow.

Thanks for all the messages- They help

Also i heard, then researched that tea can cause stones and i'm a

green tea lover........so back to water with lemon today

in Philly

>

> Hi ,

>

> Pat from RI here. I've had a history of stones, but since I've had my MGB it's

been much

worse. My dr. and my specialist say that having a gastirc by-pass makes us prone

to

develop them. First you have to have them analyzed (sp?), because there are

different

kinds. My stones are uric acid on the inside but have calcium on the outside. My

specialist

told me to drink a lot of lemonade to help with the uric acid, and he put me on

Alapurinal.

I stopped taking it because they just keep coming back, so I figured it wasn't

helping

anyway. I've had 5 lipros, and I'm supposed to have surgery after the holidays

to haveia

very large stone removed. It's not very painful now, because the larger they

are, the less

chance they have of moving, which causes the pain. I can sympathize with you

, IT IS

VERY PAINFUL........Let's hope you passed all your stones and this is the end or

it. If not I

suggest you see a specialist who can help you. Take care and be well.

>

> Pat who had my MGB 7 years ago and would do the same thing again!

> kidney stones

>

>

> Hi everyone,

> I've read posts about others who have had kidney stones. What kind of

treatment did

you get? I ended up in a clinic Saturday night where they gave me a shot for

pain, a

prescription for Cipro and one for 50 mg Dimerol for pain. This was by far the

worst pain I

have ever had. I have passed 2 stones since then. Is there anything I can

drink/eat to help

flush the kidneys? Anyone have any words of advice? I have not taken but one of

the pain

pills beccause they make me feel so stupid. I have taken quite a bit of Extra

strength

Tylenol, even though we are not supposed to. Any ideas on that? Any info or

helpful hints

would be greatly appreciated!

> Thanks

> C from VA

> 12/20/01 Dr. R - Statesville, NC

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cystone, an oral Ayurvedic herbal

combination has been shown to be effective at passing stones.

78% of 50 pts passed stones compared to

24% of 50 controls.

Probe 1982;21 (4): 281-287.

Kehr

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of m657

Sent: Wednesday, September 17,

2008 12:19 PM

or

Subject: kidney

stones

Do any of the listserve

members have an effective Rx for frank kidney stones? This friend has

gone thru multiple episodes with his PCP, they take various imaging and refrain

from any Tx other than (now) Diulad(sp?) for pain, which is not helping him

much.

He's passed several small stones over the past 2 years but has one stuck in the

kidney.

He is not currently passing blood but has in past episodes.

J. Pedersen DC

[Guest guest]

drink coca cola classic for a few days. Takes the rough edges off the stones and allows them to pass. Works every

time if you do this consistently.

andrew

From: chirodoc1@...Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:18:34 -0700Subject: kidney stones

Do any of the listserve members have an effective Rx for frank kidney stones? This friend has gone thru multiple episodes with his PCP, they take various imaging and refrain from any Tx other than (now) Diulad(sp?) for pain, which is not helping him much.He's passed several small stones over the past 2 years but has one stuck in the kidney. He is not currently passing blood but has in past episodes.J. Pedersen DC Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from . Learn Now

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Frequency Specific Microcurrent works. It brings the pain down at the end of a treatment (even when acute) and when the pain goes down the stones seem to pass easier. We have a doctor here who treated her self in the throws of kidney stone episode. She didn't want to wait in the ER so she did the current, as well as we have used it on several patients since.

Additionally try ice over the area becuase it will take the muscle spasm down, ok ok I am going for the obvious answer on that one, but we do the current here and would be happy to talk to him. Just have him call the office number below and we can see what we can do.

ThanksRespectfully, Dr. Franchesca HarperFunctional Pain Solutions6956 SW Hampton StTigard, OR 97223p. 503-443-6100f. 503-443-1280

chirodoc1@...; From: drandrewcha@...Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:14:03 +0000Subject: RE: kidney stones

drink coca cola classic for a few days. Takes the rough edges off the stones and allows them to pass. Works everytime if you do this consistently. andrew

From: chirodoc1comcast (DOT) netDate: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:18:34 -0700Subject: kidney stones

Do any of the listserve members have an effective Rx for frank kidney stones? This friend has gone thru multiple episodes with his PCP, they take various imaging and refrain from any Tx other than (now) Diulad(sp?) for pain, which is not helping him much.He's passed several small stones over the past 2 years but has one stuck in the kidney. He is not currently passing blood but has in past episodes.J. Pedersen DC

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[Guest guest]

Actually this wil help and (IMHO) it is one of the worst things y ou can do.....the phosphorus in the carbonation will leach calcium - taking the edge off the stones as says - but it also leaches calcium from everywhere else. Per Dr. ing: vit c at 3000 mg/day will soften the stones and at 5000 mg/day will erode stones ....without endangering any other ratios. (Please remember, vitamins cannot work without adequate minerals.)

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

chirodoc1@...; From: drandrewcha@...Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:14:03 +0000Subject: RE: kidney stones

drink coca cola classic for a few days. Takes the rough edges off the stones and allows them to pass. Works everytime if you do this consistently. andrew

From: chirodoc1comcast (DOT) netDate: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:18:34 -0700Subject: kidney stones

Do any of the listserve members have an effective Rx for frank kidney stones? This friend has gone thru multiple episodes with his PCP, they take various imaging and refrain from any Tx other than (now) Diulad(sp?) for pain, which is not helping him much.He's passed several small stones over the past 2 years but has one stuck in the kidney. He is not currently passing blood but has in past episodes.J. Pedersen DC

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Dr. Schultz taught me that orange juice will dilate the ureters (and common duct) making the passage of stones more probable.

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

From: dr-harper@...Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:39:30 -0700Subject: RE: kidney stones

Frequency Specific Microcurrent works. It brings the pain down at the end of a treatment (even when acute) and when the pain goes down the stones seem to pass easier. We have a doctor here who treated her self in the throws of kidney stone episode. She didn't want to wait in the ER so she did the current, as well as we have used it on several patients since. Additionally try ice over the area becuase it will take the muscle spasm down, ok ok I am going for the obvious answer on that one, but we do the current here and would be happy to talk to him. Just have him call the office number below and we can see what we can do. :)ThanksRespectfully, Dr. Franchesca HarperFunctional Pain Solutions6956 SW Hampton StTigard, OR 97223p. 503-443-6100f. 503-443-1280

chirodoc1comcast (DOT) net; From: drandrewchahotmailDate: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:14:03 +0000Subject: RE: kidney stones

drink coca cola classic for a few days. Takes the rough edges off the stones and allows them to pass. Works everytime if you do this consistently. andrew

From: chirodoc1comcast (DOT) netDate: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:18:34 -0700Subject: kidney stones

Do any of the listserve members have an effective Rx for frank kidney stones? This friend has gone thru multiple episodes with his PCP, they take various imaging and refrain from any Tx other than (now) Diulad(sp?) for pain, which is not helping him much.He's passed several small stones over the past 2 years but has one stuck in the kidney. He is not currently passing blood but has in past episodes.J. Pedersen DC

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Native Sun has Cal and Mag. together in a product called "Calm" it comes in powdered formRose From: Jag Jag <jaguarundi21@...>Subject: Kidney stones"Iodine Group" <iodine >Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 10:42 AM

I am not sure, but I thoguht magnesium was to be taken for kidney stones, as they are calcifications. Magnesium breaks down and soften's calcium. They are usually taken together.

I am sure you can find some info on the internet.

Jag

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I did the Hulda e cleanse and passed 40 Kidney stones.I was supposed to pass 2000 but I couldn't keep down the formula.AliOn Aug 26, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Jag Jag wrote:I am not sure, but I thoguht magnesium was to be taken for kidney stones, as they are calcifications. Magnesium breaks down and soften's calcium. They are usually taken together. I am sure you can find some info on the internet. Jag

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this is good to know. i take mag for cramps and of course have to take calcium, i am going to check this out...thanks. diane, near philly, pa On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:57 AM, R. D. wrote:Native Sun has Cal and Mag. together in a product called "Calm" it comes in powdered formRose From: Jag Jag <jaguarundi21 >Subject: Kidney stones"Iodine Group" <iodine >Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 10:42 AM I am not sure, but I thoguht magnesium was to be taken for kidney stones, as they are calcifications. Magnesium breaks down and soften's calcium. They are usually taken together. I am sure you can find some info on the internet. Jag