Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 The average dose is 3mgs Melatonin Jill. I only ever needed 1 1/2mgs to send me off into a deep slumber - a couple of times I tried 3mgs, but woke with a headache, which lasted only a short time. Is the 3 mgs tablet not doing you any good? Some people, of course will need more, so if you are not sleeping with 3mgs, I would first check that you are doing it right. Take it about half an hour before bedtime, and as soon as you start to feel sleepy, pop into bed. Also, it is vital that you close the curtains (thick curtains) to stop any light getting into the bedroom. If you are doing this already, then try another half tablet. luv - Sheila I take a tablet with 3mg and 2mg theanine, can I take more safely, as usual says not to take more than recommended dose, is this true ..? Thanks Jill xx --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Hi Jo, Yes the melatonin is good for insomnia but I'm having trouble with the doses needed for me to fall asleep and don't feel brilliant on low doses either. You can get a lot of things over the counter in the US but I've been told that you have to be careful with it (as its a hormone) as I have found! I've tried that herbal tea - it is nice. Unfortunately my sleep problems are far beyond that. Thanks for the sharing though. Lv > > Melatonin is on the shelves in drug stores in North America. In supermarkets, > even. It's odd to see it treated as such a perilous thing. > > Most people who use it will take 1-3mg on going to bed to help with occasional > difficulty in going to sleep. There are sublingual ones that are particularly > good, because there's no need to get out of bed. Just pop one under the tongue > and usually one drifts off to sleep. It is the hormone that triggers sleep. > > Chronic insomnia is a different matter. > > For occasional insomnia, chamomile tea is very effective. There's a type called > Sleepytime Tea from Celestial Seasonings that I've been able to buy over here > that I've found particularly effective if I wake in the night and can't get > back to sleep. It tastes okay, too. Has mint in it. > > Jo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Hi - what sort of sleep problems do you have? I ask because I havent slept well for years but hadnt thought to speak to the GP about it until a few weeks ago. since then Ive been referred to a sleep doc who has got me on a behavioural programme to get me sleeping properly - and to my amazement its working! I had thought there was something really wrong but she thinks this is a consequence of the hypothyroidism - because this can stop you sleeping and then your body learns the habit of not sleeping well - so you have to unlearn it. She says the most effective way is to stay up later until you are really falling asleep, and get up at the same time every day - ( inc weekends etc as this is the bit that is most important in resetting the habit of sleep), try to get more exercise if possible. Ive learned that I was so tired that I went to bed early thinking that I needed a lot of sleep - but that I wasnt tired enough to sleep so didnt sleep well and had disrupted sleep and then worried about not getting enough sleep so I was anxious about getting to sleep and that made it worse. Ive felt dreadful a lot of the time and my sense of humour has suffered. I havent cracked it yet but im getting more good nights now and the fibr pains are much better too. I really recommend anyone with insomnia to try this approach which is more effective for me than any of the sleeping tabs, 5HTP, melatonin, valerian root, lemon balm, that Ive tried. Just a caution that if you have sleep apnoea this is different and you need to speak to the doctor urgently - there is a test that the docs use to say whether its possibly sleep apnoea - its called the Epworth score and you can find it on line.also you need be careful with 5htp if you're on antidepressants not sure if this is the same for melatonin. i found that the 5htp made me feel depressed if I took it for more than a couple of nights at a time.Gill Yes the melatonin is good for insomnia but I'm having trouble with the doses needed for me to fall asleep and don't feel brilliant on low doses either. I've tried that herbal tea - it is nice. Unfortunately my sleep problems are far beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 > I've tried that herbal tea - it is nice. Unfortunately my sleep > problems are far beyond that. I tried not to imply that Sleepytime works for severe insomnia. It was just an add on. I agree, large amounts of melatonin wouldn't be good. I find mostly that if 1gm doesn't do it, more won't. But -- as an add on -- 3-5 on an overnight flight through time zones does help a lot with jetlag. I do have SADD lights and need them in the darker months. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 My granddaughter who has epilepsy takes melatonin and it takes her only 20 to 30 mins to fall asleep and helps stay asleep. Our dr ordered it and her insurance picked it up, while Jaiden chews them I'm not sure they taste that great lol. Jaiden also suffers from night terrors and that's why she often work up in the middle of the night but we haven't noticed any nightmares. Also as for buying it we always buy it from walmart or walgreens Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Melatonin Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother,who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Dear All, Sorry that i caught this conversation in the middle so i have no idea regarding melatonin. As far as i understanding from what i read this helps our children to fall into a sleep am i right? My question is: What we must expect from melatonin in case of use? Thanks in advance for your kind help. PM. From: "crazymisskitty@..." <crazymisskitty@...>autism Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:21:05 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin My granddaughter who has epilepsy takes melatonin and it takes her only 20 to 30 mins to fall asleep and helps stay asleep. Our dr ordered it and her insurance picked it up, while Jaiden chews them I'm not sure they taste that great lol. Jaiden also suffers from night terrors and that's why she often work up in the middle of the night but we haven't noticed any nightmares. Also as for buying it we always buy it from walmart or walgreensSent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile-----Original Message-----From: "DebbieS" <debbie582002@...>Sender: autism Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:56:52 <autism >Reply-autism Subject: MelatoninHi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother,who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks.------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I have missed you Debbie, but I have continued to pray for you, Ethan and his parents. Pat K Melatonin didn't work for Karac. Melatonin Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother,who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I've missed you too Pat and we have needed all those prayers. My daughter is doing great with her recovery,4 and a half months and going strong. She got baptized the first weekend she got home.She has much more patience with Ethan now and has come to accept his autism. She has reached out to other moms and has been trying to understand more about it. We work more as a team now and that is so much better for Ethan. You wouldn't believe how much Ethan has grown since I sent that picture to you!!! He will be turning five on Aug. 11th!! > > I have missed you Debbie, but I have continued to pray for you, Ethan and his parents. Pat K Melatonin didn't work for Karac. > > > > > > Melatonin > > > > > Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother,who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Thanks for the info..20 to 30 minutes would seem like heaven here at my house!! My grandson takes forever to fall asleep,we lay in there with him and it's steady talking and motion until an hour to two hours later,then click,it just stops and he's out only to be up in the middle of the night crawling in his mom's or my bed. We'd like to get him settled before school starts. He has a routine,visual schedule and a calm down time before bed but it still takes forever! > > My granddaughter who has epilepsy takes melatonin and it takes her only 20 to 30 mins to fall asleep and helps stay asleep. Our dr ordered it and her insurance picked it up, while Jaiden chews them I'm not sure they taste that great lol. Jaiden also suffers from night terrors and that's why she often work up in the middle of the night but we haven't noticed any nightmares. Also as for buying it we always buy it from walmart or walgreens > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > Melatonin > > Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother,who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Hi Everyone, My son has night terrors also and our Dr. said to use Melatonin and it worked within 30 min. he is asleep and stays asleep. You can purchase it over the counter in different forms at any pharmacy. I like melatonin bec. it's all natural so no side affects. Hope this helps. Tammy From: patricia muradi <patricia_muradi@...>autism Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 3:54:19 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin Dear All, Sorry that i caught this conversation in the middle so i have no idea regarding melatonin. As far as i understanding from what i read this helps our children to fall into a sleep am i right? My question is: What we must expect from melatonin in case of use? Thanks in advance for your kind help. PM. From: "crazymisskitty@ gmail.com" <crazymisskitty@ gmail.com>AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comSent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:21:05 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin My granddaughter who has epilepsy takes melatonin and it takes her only 20 to 30 mins to fall asleep and helps stay asleep. Our dr ordered it and her insurance picked it up, while Jaiden chews them I'm not sure they taste that great lol. Jaiden also suffers from night terrors and that's why she often work up in the middle of the night but we haven't noticed any nightmares. Also as for buying it we always buy it from walmart or walgreensSent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile MelatoninHi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother, who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks.------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Hi Everyone, My son has night terrors also and our Dr. said to use Melatonin and it worked within 30 min. he is asleep and stays asleep. You can purchase it over the counter in different forms at any pharmacy. I like melatonin bec. it's all natural so no side affects. Hope this helps. Tammy From: patricia muradi <patricia_muradi@...>autism Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 3:54:19 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin Dear All, Sorry that i caught this conversation in the middle so i have no idea regarding melatonin. As far as i understanding from what i read this helps our children to fall into a sleep am i right? My question is: What we must expect from melatonin in case of use? Thanks in advance for your kind help. PM. From: "crazymisskitty@ gmail.com" <crazymisskitty@ gmail.com>AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comSent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:21:05 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin My granddaughter who has epilepsy takes melatonin and it takes her only 20 to 30 mins to fall asleep and helps stay asleep. Our dr ordered it and her insurance picked it up, while Jaiden chews them I'm not sure they taste that great lol. Jaiden also suffers from night terrors and that's why she often work up in the middle of the night but we haven't noticed any nightmares. Also as for buying it we always buy it from walmart or walgreensSent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile MelatoninHi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother, who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks.------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 From: DebbieS <debbie582002@...>autism Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 7:24:33 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin Thanks for the info..20 to 30 minutes would seem like heaven here at my house!! My grandson takes forever to fall asleep,we lay in there with him and it's steady talking and motion until an hour to two hours later,then click,it just stops and he's out only to be up in the middle of the night crawling in his mom's or my bed. We'd like to get him settled before school starts. He has a routine,visual schedule and a calm down time before bed but it still takes forever!>> My granddaughter who has epilepsy takes melatonin and it takes her only 20 to 30 mins to fall asleep and helps stay asleep. Our dr ordered it and her insurance picked it up, while Jaiden chews them I'm not sure they taste that great lol. Jaiden also suffers from night terrors and that's why she often work up in the middle of the night but we haven't noticed any nightmares. Also as for buying it we always buy it from walmart or walgreens> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile> > Melatonin> > Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother,who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks.> > > > ------------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 From: DebbieS <debbie582002@...>autism Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 7:24:33 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin Thanks for the info..20 to 30 minutes would seem like heaven here at my house!! My grandson takes forever to fall asleep,we lay in there with him and it's steady talking and motion until an hour to two hours later,then click,it just stops and he's out only to be up in the middle of the night crawling in his mom's or my bed. We'd like to get him settled before school starts. He has a routine,visual schedule and a calm down time before bed but it still takes forever!>> My granddaughter who has epilepsy takes melatonin and it takes her only 20 to 30 mins to fall asleep and helps stay asleep. Our dr ordered it and her insurance picked it up, while Jaiden chews them I'm not sure they taste that great lol. Jaiden also suffers from night terrors and that's why she often work up in the middle of the night but we haven't noticed any nightmares. Also as for buying it we always buy it from walmart or walgreens> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile> > Melatonin> > Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother,who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks.> > > > ------------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 You could try crushing the melatonin. You can find it at Rite Aid or Walmart. From: DebbieS <debbie582002@...>autism Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 11:56:52 AMSubject: Melatonin Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother,who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Dear Tammy, Many thanks. From: tammy shaver <ohio_gal79@...>autism Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 1:07:54 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin Hi Everyone, My son has night terrors also and our Dr. said to use Melatonin and it worked within 30 min. he is asleep and stays asleep. You can purchase it over the counter in different forms at any pharmacy. I like melatonin bec. it's all natural so no side affects. Hope this helps. Tammy From: patricia muradi <patricia_muradi>AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comSent: Tue, July 20, 2010 3:54:19 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin Dear All, Sorry that i caught this conversation in the middle so i have no idea regarding melatonin. As far as i understanding from what i read this helps our children to fall into a sleep am i right? My question is: What we must expect from melatonin in case of use? Thanks in advance for your kind help. PM. From: "crazymisskitty@ gmail.com" <crazymisskitty@ gmail.com>AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comSent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:21:05 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin My granddaughter who has epilepsy takes melatonin and it takes her only 20 to 30 mins to fall asleep and helps stay asleep. Our dr ordered it and her insurance picked it up, while Jaiden chews them I'm not sure they taste that great lol. Jaiden also suffers from night terrors and that's why she often work up in the middle of the night but we haven't noticed any nightmares. Also as for buying it we always buy it from walmart or walgreensSent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile MelatoninHi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother, who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks.------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010  We use natrol brand. Our pharmacists orders the time release for us because that helps keep our daughter asleep all night. Or to go back to bed if for some reason she woke up. It also comes in a liquid. Elaine Melatonin Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother,who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3018 - Release Date: 07/20/10 18:36:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 From: Sharon <kmusikmom2@...>autism Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 5:54:48 AMSubject: Re: Melatonin Wow - Lana where have you been I haven't see your name on here in months must be something magical everybody coming out of the woodwork. ShaornI did not chose to have Autism in my life, God did From: Lana Waalkes <tunick42004>Subject: Re: MelatoninAutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 5:25 AM From: DebbieS <debbie582002>AutismBehaviorProbl emsgroups (DOT) comSent: Tue, July 20, 2010 7:24:33 PMSubject: Re: Melatonin Thanks for the info..20 to 30 minutes would seem like heaven here at my house!! My grandson takes forever to fall asleep,we lay in there with him and it's steady talking and motion until an hour to two hours later,then click,it just stops and he's out only to be up in the middle of the night crawling in his mom's or my bed. We'd like to get him settled before school starts. He has a routine,visual schedule and a calm down time before bed but it still takes forever!>> My granddaughter who has epilepsy takes melatonin and it takes her only 20 to 30 mins to fall asleep and helps stay asleep. Our dr ordered it and her insurance picked it up, while Jaiden chews them I'm not sure they taste that great lol. Jaiden also suffers from night terrors and that's why she often work up in the middle of the night but we haven't noticed any nightmares. Also as for buying it we always buy it from walmart or walgreens> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile> > Melatonin> > Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother, who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks.> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I crush a 3mg with a spoon and mix it into my sons bedtime snack drink, he has neevr noticed. My son was already a great sleeper but has trouble with the initial calming down to go to bed. This has worked great. I also noticed that he has many less dysregulated moments during the day since using it. My daughter, NT, takes two 3mg at bedtime because she is a very vivid dreamer and sleep walker. It stops it pretty much completely with no adverse side effects. www.sahmatlast.blogspot.com Russian Adoption was our Option. Live and Love everyday! ---- Lana Waalkes <tunick42004@...> wrote: ============= You could try crushing the melatonin. You can find it at Rite Aid or Walmart. ________________________________ From: DebbieS <debbie582002@...> autism Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 11:56:52 AM Subject: Melatonin  Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in awhile...my mom's not doing well so I've been busy with her,plus Ethan and Evey were both diagnosed with heart murmurs so we had to go through the echocardiagrams with them(both look normal,thank God). I have a question about melatonin. Ethan is still taking nearly two hours to go to sleep at night and me or his mother have to stay in there with him until he falls asleep. I've done alot of reading on melatonin and would like to try it with Ethan. Can anyone tell me an online source where I can purchase it? He can't swallow pills so it would need to be liquid or chewable. Has anyone noticed an increase in nightmares while using melatonin? Ethan's other grandmother,who doesn't help with him much by the way,said that she read that melatonin causes vivid dreams and or nightmares. I only found one article that said that and it was referring to typical children,not kids with autism. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 I know what a relief that is. hugs, Pat K Melatonin Thank you everyone for your input on the melatonin for sleep. We started giving Ethan 1ml Melatonin Monday night. We have to crush it and dissolve it in water so he'll take it but omg it is worth it! It may not work for everyone but Ethan has gone from taking nearly two hours to go to sleep to less than twenty! The first two nights he woke up in the middle of the night but just went and got in his momma's bed and went back to sleep. But he was doing that before. Thanks again..I love you guys...my grandson is finally going to sleep without a battle!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I give my boys Melatonin. I crush them then mix with a little orange juice and use a medicine syrenge. Sometimes Preston will chew it but it does taste odd and chalky texture. I found my saving grace in a liquid form at Sprouts market called Sleep. It's a combination of Melatonin and Valerian. 30 drops in a tsp of orange juice and my boys sleep like a log. Night terrors affect my household but I have found absolutely no difference with or without the sleep aide. Actually, they have slept more soundly, restful with Sleep. Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I have found the best way to work is to give same time each night for several nights in a row and then try without, with Sam I found once the body clock was reset he was OK then for a few weeks, then he would start being later each night and then I'd go back in with another 3 days worth and so on. The best dose is the smallest dose that works when you are using it for sleep. Mandi x In a message dated 05/10/2010 08:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, joanneallman@... writes: My question is: is it OK to give melatonin every night? Or will it promote dependency, and become less effective, meaning I will need to increase the dose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Do any of you guys know if melatonin would help with STAYING asleep? I know it works with getting off to sleep, but not sure it helps with staying asleep during the night. My dd has never slept through the night, because as a child she would seizure... and this has created, I am sure a fear. She wakes up every couple of hours through out the night... not sure if this is now a habit, a movement pattern or what... anyway, we trailed melatonin about 15 years ago, and it did help, but now the problem is staying asleep. We are going to see a sleep consultant in a few weeks... just to check, but wanted to ask if any of you parents have a similar situation? Thanks Re: Melatonin I have found the best way to work is to give same time each night for several nights in a row and then try without, with Sam I found once the body clock was reset he was OK then for a few weeks, then he would start being later each night and then I'd go back in with another 3 days worth and so on. The best dose is the smallest dose that works when you are using it for sleep. Mandi x In a message dated 05/10/2010 08:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, joanneallman@... writes: My question is: is it OK to give melatonin every night? Or will it promote dependency, and become less effective, meaning I will need to increase the dose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 , the prolonged release Circadin I got from Breakspear has an enteric? coating which is mean't to make it dissolve slowly so if your DD can swallow pills in theory it should help with staying asleep. If you want to ring the info line of the co it is; 01908 64 9966 - Lundbeck health. From: Barrett <sandrabarrett@...>Subject: Re: MelatoninAutism Treatment Date: Tuesday, 5 October, 2010, 4:46 Do any of you guys know if melatonin would help with STAYING asleep? I know it works with getting off to sleep, but not sure it helps with staying asleep during the night. My dd has never slept through the night, because as a child she would seizure... and this has created, I am sure a fear. She wakes up every couple of hours through out the night... not sure if this is now a habit, a movement pattern or what... anyway, we trailed melatonin about 15 years ago, and it did help, but now the problem is staying asleep. We are going to see a sleep consultant in a few weeks... just to check, but wanted to ask if any of you parents have a similar situation? Thanks Re: Melatonin I have found the best way to work is to give same time each night for several nights in a row and then try without, with Sam I found once the body clock was reset he was OK then for a few weeks, then he would start being later each night and then I'd go back in with another 3 days worth and so on. The best dose is the smallest dose that works when you are using it for sleep. Mandi x In a message dated 05/10/2010 08:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, joanneallman@... writes: My question is: is it OK to give melatonin every night? Or will it promote dependency, and become less effective, meaning I will need to increase the dose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010  thanks , that is really great. I will give them a call. x Re: Melatonin I have found the best way to work is to give same time each night for several nights in a row and then try without, with Sam I found once the body clock was reset he was OK then for a few weeks, then he would start being later each night and then I'd go back in with another 3 days worth and so on. The best dose is the smallest dose that works when you are using it for sleep. Mandi x In a message dated 05/10/2010 08:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, joanneallman@... writes: My question is: is it OK to give melatonin every night? Or will it promote dependency, and become less effective, meaning I will need to increase the dose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Hi  Tatijana has never had melatonin, however like your daugther she has had night seizures most of her life, and became fearful of sleep so used to wake many times a night. I presumed that the memory may have been the problem, However when we started TST we understood that the disturbed sleep was being triggered by her blood oxygen levels dipping because as she breathed shallow in her sleep her useful oxygen levels being carried in her under developed circulation were too low and the body was coming out of sleep to increase activity and create deeper breathing.  17 months into TST she sleeps through the night, drops off to sleep with ease and has had 8 weeks seizure free.. so I think for us breathing has been the problem causing wakefulness.  Best Wishes   Tracey On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Barrett <sandrabarrett@...> wrote:  Do any of you guys know if melatonin would help with STAYING asleep? I know it works with getting off to sleep, but not sure it helps with staying asleep during the night. My dd has never slept through the night, because as a child she would seizure... and this has created, I am sure a fear. She wakes up every couple of hours through out the night... not sure if this is now a habit, a movement pattern or what... anyway, we trailed melatonin about 15 years ago, and it did help, but now the problem is staying asleep. We are going to see a sleep consultant in a few weeks... just to check, but wanted to ask if any of you parents have a similar situation? Thanks Re: Melatonin  I have found the best way to work is to give same time each night for several nights in a row and then try without, with Sam I found once the body clock was reset he was OK then for a few weeks, then he would start being later each night and then I'd go back in with another 3 days worth and so on. The best dose is the smallest dose that works when you are using it for sleep.  Mandi x  In a message dated 05/10/2010 08:42:31 GMT Daylight Time, joanneallman@... writes: My question is: is it OK to give melatonin every night? Or will it promote dependency, and become less effective, meaning I will need to increase the dose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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