Melatonin

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/14/03 10:37:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> Then abt 8 days or so later noticed sore breast like they used to be......

> I had alot of troubles with hormones back then.

>

I have sore breasts and itchy sometimes also. I was so afraid that I had a

tumor but so far the mamo and MRI show nothing. I wanted to have ductal lavage

but it was too expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it. I also have

hormonal problems. I will try the melatonin and see if it helps. I have been

using Gotu Kola in hopes of balancing the hormones but haven't noticed anything

at all happening.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/14/03 10:37:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> Then abt 8 days or so later noticed sore breast like they used to be......

> I had alot of troubles with hormones back then.

>

I have sore breasts and itchy sometimes also. I was so afraid that I had a

tumor but so far the mamo and MRI show nothing. I wanted to have ductal lavage

but it was too expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it. I also have

hormonal problems. I will try the melatonin and see if it helps. I have been

using Gotu Kola in hopes of balancing the hormones but haven't noticed anything

at all happening.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/14/03 11:18:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> I wanted to have ductal lavage

> but it was too expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it

>

> Tell me about this procedure please.........

They take the fluid out of the ducts and test it. Apparently most breast

cancers start there and they can see abnormal cells long before they can ever

form into a tumor.

You can contact my breast doctor, Dr. El-Eid in Kingston NY. She has ll the

information.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/14/03 11:18:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> I wanted to have ductal lavage

> but it was too expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it

>

> Tell me about this procedure please.........

They take the fluid out of the ducts and test it. Apparently most breast

cancers start there and they can see abnormal cells long before they can ever

form into a tumor.

You can contact my breast doctor, Dr. El-Eid in Kingston NY. She has ll the

information.

[Guest guest]

1 milligram at bedtime. This is such a odd thing, it really works. I have at

times like everything ran out and delayed buying it out of forgetfulness........

Then abt 8 days or so later noticed sore breast like they used to be......

I had alot of troubles with hormones back then.

If I take more than that I just have a hard time waking up good the next

morning.

A few of my friends have tried it and still take it for th esame reason. It

really works, if you have that problem.

Of course if you are pregnant dont take it. And if all the sudden soreness

starts, have it checked out by a docter.... I just had this chronic. And finally

found something that helped.

I just never had any luck with M.D.'s and female problems. I mean if you dont

have cancer for them to treat.They just dont have any answers.....Except anti

depressants.

They say its just the way a woman feels......or its peri menapause.....

All this stuff may one day kill me. Who knows. But my quality of life wasnt

really worth living before.

Thats how I feel about it.

That DHEA or progesterone cream will slow down a heavy period also. I suppose

using that all the time for that purpose isnt good. But it does slow and nearly

stop one. Something to know for a emergency situation......

There is a docter near here I went to a few times. his wife sells health foods

and vitamins and herbs.

They used to live in Vegas. He told me that the prostitutes out there that he

treated used the cream to slow down or eliminate periods....Also the DHEA.

Re: Melatonin

In a message dated 12/14/03 9:58:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> Melatonin has for me and several others..gotten rid of the tenderness and

> soreness in breast if taken regularly

How much do you take and how often?

[Guest guest]

1 milligram at bedtime. This is such a odd thing, it really works. I have at

times like everything ran out and delayed buying it out of forgetfulness........

Then abt 8 days or so later noticed sore breast like they used to be......

I had alot of troubles with hormones back then.

If I take more than that I just have a hard time waking up good the next

morning.

A few of my friends have tried it and still take it for th esame reason. It

really works, if you have that problem.

Of course if you are pregnant dont take it. And if all the sudden soreness

starts, have it checked out by a docter.... I just had this chronic. And finally

found something that helped.

I just never had any luck with M.D.'s and female problems. I mean if you dont

have cancer for them to treat.They just dont have any answers.....Except anti

depressants.

They say its just the way a woman feels......or its peri menapause.....

All this stuff may one day kill me. Who knows. But my quality of life wasnt

really worth living before.

Thats how I feel about it.

That DHEA or progesterone cream will slow down a heavy period also. I suppose

using that all the time for that purpose isnt good. But it does slow and nearly

stop one. Something to know for a emergency situation......

There is a docter near here I went to a few times. his wife sells health foods

and vitamins and herbs.

They used to live in Vegas. He told me that the prostitutes out there that he

treated used the cream to slow down or eliminate periods....Also the DHEA.

Re: Melatonin

In a message dated 12/14/03 9:58:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> Melatonin has for me and several others..gotten rid of the tenderness and

> soreness in breast if taken regularly

How much do you take and how often?

[Guest guest]

I wanted to have ductal lavage

but it was too expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it

Tell me about this procedure please.........

Re: Melatonin

In a message dated 12/14/03 10:37:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> Then abt 8 days or so later noticed sore breast like they used to be......

> I had alot of troubles with hormones back then.

>

I have sore breasts and itchy sometimes also. I was so afraid that I had a

tumor but so far the mamo and MRI show nothing. I wanted to have ductal lavage

but it was too expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it. I also have

hormonal problems. I will try the melatonin and see if it helps. I have been

using Gotu Kola in hopes of balancing the hormones but haven't noticed

anything

at all happening.

[Guest guest]

I wanted to have ductal lavage

but it was too expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it

Tell me about this procedure please.........

Re: Melatonin

In a message dated 12/14/03 10:37:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> Then abt 8 days or so later noticed sore breast like they used to be......

> I had alot of troubles with hormones back then.

>

I have sore breasts and itchy sometimes also. I was so afraid that I had a

tumor but so far the mamo and MRI show nothing. I wanted to have ductal lavage

but it was too expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it. I also have

hormonal problems. I will try the melatonin and see if it helps. I have been

using Gotu Kola in hopes of balancing the hormones but haven't noticed

anything

at all happening.

[Guest guest]

So its hard to get insurance to pay for it?

Yea i think that is where most start. That is where my families BC starts. My

insurance probably wont ither.

Re: Melatonin

In a message dated 12/14/03 11:18:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> I wanted to have ductal lavage

> but it was too expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it

>

> Tell me about this procedure please.........

They take the fluid out of the ducts and test it. Apparently most breast

cancers start there and they can see abnormal cells long before they can ever

form into a tumor.

You can contact my breast doctor, Dr. El-Eid in Kingston NY. She has ll the

information.

[Guest guest]

So its hard to get insurance to pay for it?

Yea i think that is where most start. That is where my families BC starts. My

insurance probably wont ither.

Re: Melatonin

In a message dated 12/14/03 11:18:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nopcname@... writes:

> I wanted to have ductal lavage

> but it was too expensive and my insurance wouldn't cover it

>

> Tell me about this procedure please.........

They take the fluid out of the ducts and test it. Apparently most breast

cancers start there and they can see abnormal cells long before they can ever

form into a tumor.

You can contact my breast doctor, Dr. El-Eid in Kingston NY. She has ll the

information.

[Guest guest]

Mike,

Thanks a lot for the article. I've got to tell you that in the two days

that I gave my daughter Melatonin, I feel that she seemed to sleep

better, looked more rested and did less snoring.

Grace

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:05:28 -0500 " Mike Mchugh "

<mcpitza@...> writes:

> Melatonin is effective and safe for sleep disturbance in children

> with cerebral palsy, autism and learning problems

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> Background:

> Melatonin, a hormone produced by the pineal gland in the brain, is

> increasingly being used to treat sleep disturbance in children.

> Melatonin is most commonly used for jet lag, but claims have been

> made that it also promotes general health and protects against the

> effects of ageing. Melatonin helps regulate the body's sleep-wake

> cycle and its production is determined by light and dark. When

> darkness falls, the pineal gland produces more melatonin, promoting

> sleep and regulating the body's sleep-wake cycle with the outside

> world. Because of its use in promoting sleep, melatonin is

> increasingly used in the treatment of sleep disturbance in children.

> However, this particular use of the drug has been studied very

> little and in fact, melatonin is not licensed as a drug in most

> countries. Although it's available without a prescription in the USA

> (where it's sold as a " dietary " substitute), melatonin is not

> available at all in the UK or Australia.

>

> Sleep disturbance is common in childhood, and is particularly

> problematic in children with neurological problems such as learning

> difficulties, cerebral palsy, autism spectrum disorders and

> epilepsy, as well as children with visual impairment (partial or

> complete). This is probably because these children have difficulty

> recognising and attuning their sleep cycle to the outside world's

> sleep-wake cycle.

>

> Little is known about how useful or safe melatonin really is as a

> treatment for childhood sleep disturbance. A number of reports

> describing the use of melatonin in small numbers of children, have

> suggested that it is useful and probably safe, but no studies have

> been published where the drug has been used on larger numbers of

> children. Additionally, no randomised controlled studies testing the

> safety and effectiveness of melatonin have been performed. These

> types of studies are necessary to properly establish the

> effectiveness and safety of the drug in treating paediatric sleep

> problems. Evidence from adult studies suggests that melatonin

> generally seems very safe, but potentially it can promote

> depression, worsen epilepsy and delay puberty. These authors report

> on one of the largest groups of children with neurological problems

> using melatonin. (Sadly it wasn't a randomised trial).

>

> Findings:

> The researchers identified all children with sleep disturbances in a

> large paediatric neurology clinic and offered them melatonin to

> treat the condition. 49 mothers agreed to give their children

> melatonin and keep diaries and records of the differences it made to

> their children's sleep patterns. The children were given 2.5mg of

> melatonin per night if they were under five years of age and 5mg if

> they were over five. The dose was increased, if necessary, to a

> maximum of 7.5mg in children under two years and 10mg over this age.

> The children with sleep problems also had either cerebral palsy,

> learning difficulties, epilepsy, autistic spectrum disorders or Down

> syndrome. Only seven children were also visually impaired.

>

> They found that the melatonin significantly improved almost all

> aspects of sleep in most of the children and around 93% recorded

> significant benefits. The average number of hours sleep that the

> children had each week increased by around 10%, from 54 hours/week

> before taking the melatonin to 66 hours/week while taking the

> melatonin. The number of interruptions to sleep each week decreased

> by 50% from an average of seven interruptions per week before taking

> the melatonin, to 3.5 interruptions while taking the drug. Also, the

> number of hours of interrupted sleep decreased by 45%, from nine

> hours awake each week during a sleep interruption pre melatonin, to

> five hours per week while taking melatonin.

>

> There were no major side effects from the medication in any of the

> children and importantly there was no change in the frequency or

> severity of seizures in children with epilepsy. Boys and girls were

> equally likely to respond well to melatonin. The visually impaired

> children were the most likely to have success with melatonin, but

> around three-quarters of the fully sighted children also responded

> very well.

>

> Comments:

> This is further support for the effectiveness and safety of

> melatonin in children with sleep problems, particularly in children

> with neurological problems. An impressive 93% of children responded

> positively. However the medical community still requires supporting

> evidence in the form of a randomised clinical trial before we can

> uniformly recommend melatonin for this purpose.

>

> Reference:

> Ross & Whitehouse. Melatonin treatment for sleep disorders in

> children with neurodevelopmental disorders: an observational study.

> Developmental Medicine & Child Neurology May 2002; 44: 339-44.

>

> Action Points:

> * Sleep disturbance is common in children with cerebral palsy,

> learning difficulties, intellectual disability, visual disability,

> autism and epilepsy. Melatonin at a dose of 2.5-10mg is a safe and

> probably effective treatment for sleep disturbance in these

> children.

>

> Reproduced with permission of ChildHealthMonitor.org, which

> translates pediatric journal articles into everyday language

> providing comprehensive information on research breakthroughs

> ranging from general nutrition to rare diseases. A great resource

> for busy Pediatricians and also for parents who want to learn how

> best to care for their children's medical and parenting problems

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/10/2004 12:29:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, pecina@...

writes:

Has anybody tried Melatonin as anty - ES remedy?

*****************

Hi Drasko and all ES group, One of the effects of EMF is to cause a

deficiency in the release of Melatonin during deep rest and sleep. The normal

function of Melatonin is to aid the body in recuperative functions during

sleep.

I do not know if taking the product acts as a replacement of the deficiency.

Might be an interesting study from the group! Any other experience with it??.

Be Well... Bill W

[Guest guest]

Hello Drasko,

Melatonin as anty - ES remedy? No, I do not think so.

However.

Melatonin governs a number of important processes, and makes anti material

against tumors.

A number of studies in Germany have shown, that the influence of High

Frequency disturbs the making of melatonin.

The human body produces the hormone melatonin when it thinks it is dark. The

incoming high frequency radiation from mobile phone masts and the wireless

home phones according to the DECT/GAP principle, is seen by the body as

light, and

therefore, less melatonin will be produced.

(Night-workers have therefore also this problem)

Women with breast cancer have a too low level of melatonin.

An american has found that people with suicides had a melatonin level of

ZERO.

Others have found that the radiation of low level lowfrequencies (50-60 Hz)

also diminish the sufficient production of melatonin.

So, it is very important to sleep in a radiation-free bedroom.

That can be accomplished by shielding.

If you want to adjust the shortage in melatonin, a dose of 1 tablet of

minimal 3 mg is to be taken 1 hour before sleeping.

You sleep much better.

Many doctors see melatonin as a simple sleeping drug; I see it as an

adjustment to a shortage.

Although you sleep better, and the body can thus regenerate better, and a

certain stabilization can be achieved, I do not see Melatonin as an anty -

ES remedy.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/

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melatonin

> Has anybody tried Melatonin as anty - ES remedy? I had bought it some 6

years ago, as some researchers suggested that it plays a role in mechanism

of Emf influence to body... I can say that even when taken in an extremely

small amount (of 1/10 of recommended dose) it did act for me the very,

similar way as it happens when I am in a village far from any radiations -

comforting and causing a kind of sleepiness... But I am using it very rarely

as I am afraid of anything that potentially could have side effects.

>

> By the way, let me tell you all that I am starting to love this list, and

feel being in a very good company!

>

> Drasko

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everybody in this group!

Do someone on the list know if the production of melatonin could be

disturbed (inhibited) if you are stressed from low levels of low

frequency sounds (0-20Hz)?

I have had problems from ES for about 15 years or so. Some 5 years ago I

had the bad luck of living 30m above a large tunneling project. Since

then I have about the same reactions from low frequency sounds as from EMF!

/Anders sson

[Guest guest]

Hello Anders sson,

there are not so many studies on low frequency sounds in the 0-20 Hz range.

(Which is quite different from low electrical frequencies)

However I know some people who are plagued with it, mainly in greater

cities.

They certainly do have a bad sleeping.

In certain hospitals they can measure your melatonin production.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/

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Re: melatonin

> Hi everybody in this group!

>

> Do someone on the list know if the production of melatonin could be

> disturbed (inhibited) if you are stressed from low levels of low

> frequency sounds (0-20Hz)?

>

> I have had problems from ES for about 15 years or so. Some 5 years ago I

> had the bad luck of living 30m above a large tunneling project. Since

> then I have about the same reactions from low frequency sounds as from

EMF!

>

> /Anders sson

>

[Guest guest]

> Has anybody tried Melatonin as anty - ES remedy? I had bought it

some 6 years ago, as some researchers suggested that it plays a role

in mechanism of Emf influence to body... I can say that even when

taken in an extremely small amount (of 1/10 of recommended dose) it

did act for me the very, similar way as it happens when I am in a

village far from any radiations - comforting and causing a kind of

sleepiness... But I am using it very rarely as I am afraid of

anything that potentially could have side effects.

>

> By the way, let me tell you all that I am starting to love this

list, and feel being in a very good company!

>

> Drasko

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Grace,

I give my son melatonin but not every night. I have never given him

more than 1 mg. I do think that he has less seizure activity when he

has a good night sleep and my experience has been that on nights he

takes melatonin he does not have more seizures than usual, perhaps

less.

[Guest guest]

DEAR GRACE,I THINK THE REC. DOSE IS 1MG AND MAYBE TWICE A WEEK OR THREE TIMES OR

LIKE EVERY OTHER DAY MAY GOD BLESS YOU LOVE,MARK

" Grace H. " <foxyfox8@...> wrote:Helly Everyone,

To those of you who give your children melatonin, how much do you give

your child and how often do you give it. Do you also feel that your

child does better seizure wise when taking melatonin. Thanks for the

answers!

Grace

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[Guest guest]

,

How often do you give it to him? I'm just trying to get an idea as to

how often I should use it on . I don't want to give it to her

every night either, but I would like for her to get one good night's

sleep at least once or twice a week. I also think that if

sleeps well that her seizures seem to come around less often since I

believe that one of her triggers is lack of sleep. Thanks and

God Bless!

Grace

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 02:26:48 -0000 " M. "

<mcpitza@...> writes:

> Grace,

> I give my son melatonin but not every night. I have never given him

>

> more than 1 mg. I do think that he has less seizure activity when he

>

> has a good night sleep and my experience has been that on nights he

>

> takes melatonin he does not have more seizures than usual, perhaps

> less.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mark,

That sounds good since I think they should have one or two days off so

that the melatonin continues to work. I think that if you give it every

day that it might lose it's effectiveness. I read somewhere that if it

starts to lose its effectiveness to stop using it for a couple of days

and then try again. Thanks Mark!

Grace

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:22:35 -0800 (PST) mark hogue

<markhogue2002@...> writes:

> DEAR GRACE,I THINK THE REC. DOSE IS 1MG AND MAYBE TWICE A WEEK OR

> THREE TIMES OR LIKE EVERY OTHER DAY MAY GOD BLESS YOU LOVE,MARK

>

> " Grace H. " <foxyfox8@...> wrote:Helly Everyone,

>

> To those of you who give your children melatonin, how much do you

> give

> your child and how often do you give it. Do you also feel that

> your

> child does better seizure wise when taking melatonin. Thanks for

> the

> answers!

>

> Grace

>

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[Guest guest]

Grace,

I just go by my sons behavior and my intuition. He may get it as many

as 4 or 5 nights some weeks and only once or twice others. During the

summer I hardly use it at all. Last year if he didn't sleep well I

allowed him to sleep in and go into school late but this year they

are saying tardiness can be cause to make a child repeat a grade. He

is in his room and hopefully settled down by 8 PM every night. If

after a story and some bedtime rituals he still seems like he is

going to hanging upside down from his bed and bouncing off the walls

I will give him a melatonin. If he seems settled in ready to sleep or

just do quiet activity until he feels sleepy I skip the dose.

Trust your instincts and good luck,

[Guest guest]

,

That's what I will do, go with my gut instinct. Thanks for the advice.

Grace

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:06:14 -0000 " M. "

<mcpitza@...> writes:

> Grace,

> I just go by my sons behavior and my intuition. He may get it as

> many

> as 4 or 5 nights some weeks and only once or twice others. During

> the

> summer I hardly use it at all. Last year if he didn't sleep well I

> allowed him to sleep in and go into school late but this year they

> are saying tardiness can be cause to make a child repeat a grade. He

>

> is in his room and hopefully settled down by 8 PM every night. If

> after a story and some bedtime rituals he still seems like he is

> going to hanging upside down from his bed and bouncing off the walls

>

> I will give him a melatonin. If he seems settled in ready to sleep

> or

> just do quiet activity until he feels sleepy I skip the dose.

> Trust your instincts and good luck,

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

has been on 1.25mg Melatonin every night for a couple of

years. Recently she has been sleeping restlessly so I gave her a double

dose one night . Well that was the worst nights sleep she has EVER

had. Last night I gave her none, and that was the BEST sleep in a couple

of weeks.

So it appears she may have developed a sensitivity to it after all this time.

When she first started Melatonin however, there was an improvement in sz

control and a huge improvement in her Language skills.

Jill

At 12:05 AM 24/02/2004, you wrote:

>Mark,

>

>That sounds good since I think they should have one or two days off so

>that the melatonin continues to work. I think that if you give it every

>day that it might lose it's effectiveness. I read somewhere that if it

>starts to lose its effectiveness to stop using it for a couple of days

>and then try again. Thanks Mark!

>

>Grace

>

>

>On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:22:35 -0800 (PST) mark hogue

><markhogue2002@...> writes:

> > DEAR GRACE,I THINK THE REC. DOSE IS 1MG AND MAYBE TWICE A WEEK OR

> > THREE TIMES OR LIKE EVERY OTHER DAY MAY GOD BLESS YOU LOVE,MARK

> >

> > " Grace H. " <foxyfox8@...> wrote:Helly Everyone,

> >

> > To those of you who give your children melatonin, how much do you

> > give

> > your child and how often do you give it. Do you also feel that

> > your

> > child does better seizure wise when taking melatonin. Thanks for

> > the

> > answers!

> >

> > Grace

> >

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[Guest guest]

Grace,

Why don't you all just drink a glass of milk before bedtime or eat a portion

of turkey for dinner, they both contain tryptophan which is a precurser to

melatonin.

Also, melatonin only helps you fall to sleep, it does not aid in maintaining

sleep.

[Guest guest]

Tracey,

I'll try the milk tonight, I haven't tried the turkey for dinner, thanks!

Grace

Traceygrubbs@... wrote:

Grace,

Why don't you all just drink a glass of milk before bedtime or eat a portion

of turkey for dinner, they both contain tryptophan which is a precurser to

melatonin.

Also, melatonin only helps you fall to sleep, it does not aid in maintaining

sleep.