Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 In a message dated 4/7/00 4:11:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, nhbandrna@... writes: << I do have a question. I take all of them except the lithium since nobody had it. Should I make the effort? Also, I continue to be awfully achey, and since I already take the recommended 1000mg. MSM, should I take more? I'm up to 6 and 8 mgs. of copper on alternate days and the same with selenium. Also, I'm having some increased eye inflamation, with intermittent bulging and changes in visual acuity. >> Hi , My thinking on lithium is this: it's probably not necessary if copper is working for you and you don't have any serious psychological problems. Generally if you have psychological problems like schizophrenia, paranoia, or manic-depression, then it means that copper isn't getting into your cells properly and is building up. These people will test high copper in the hair. Most hypers don't have these problems but it happens sometimes. Doctors often give high levels of lithium to these people. The lithium works with sodium to form a pump which moves copper into the cells where it can be used. For a while scientists thought that lithium deficiency was the cause of hyperthyroidism. They gave up on this but they were actually close to finding out what causes it. Anyway most people don't need lithium but those with psycholgical problems might try it to see if it helps. I'm concerned with your increasing eye problems. I'm pretty sure that the problems you described (itching and bulging, i.e. exophthalmia) are due to zinc deficiency. Taking copper without zinc can make this worse so increase the zinc to see if it helps these problems. Let me know. MSM might help with the achiness, but also zinc might be the answer there also. Again, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 Hey !!! Overwhelming thanks for these last two day's posts. I've learned or made sense of many of the things you've suggested before and then some. If all of this was in the archives, I'm an idiot for not having perused it as you've so often suggested. The ONLY reason I didn't immediately follow my endo's insistence on RAI was because I'd had an IVP many years ago and had a terrible reaction to the dye, I almost died. During really bad weeks I've still toyed with the thought as he states, " I can't believe you're allergic to iodine. Do you eat bread? if you do it almost proves it's not the iodine you are allergic to. We could give you just a little and see what happens. " DUH! As you predicted, since I've been taking the supps., copper to be exact, I've started getting tan, a first. I do have a question. I take all of them except the lithium since nobody had it. Should I make the effort? Also, I continue to be awfully achey, and since I already take the recommended 1000mg. MSM, should I take more? I'm up to 6 and 8 mgs. of copper on alternate days and the same with selenium. Also, I'm having some increased eye inflamation, with intermittent bulging and changes in visual acuity. (I have typical 60 yrs.+ presbyopia) All other supps. are as listed. I do have some days of intermittent pain on my left side which I supposed was from the spleen, although I never tried to figure it out. Again, thank you soooo much. We are so fortunate to have found you and your courageous, ground-breaking work. Peace and Light, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 I have been taking 1500mg MSM and about half of my calcium (600 mg) at night before i go to bed. The rest of my supplements I take in the morning. I have not had muscle weakness or pain since. good luck Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Hey Barry, I figured you'd like this forum and I'm glad your learning so many things. it'll certainly help you be more prepared when you have your appointments and surgery! I see you're also finding out how supportive all on this forum are of one another. Yep... CI is a great place on the internet and glad you're a part of it. Have a great weekend, Silly In , " Barry " <brcats@s...> wrote: > Well I must say as I have read many messages since I joined > the CI Hear that this is truly the place to learn. I read every day > and have progressed far in my needed & wanted to know > information about the CI's. I see a Guardian Angel in each & > everyone in this group. My appointment is ariund the corner (April > 15) for my CAT Scan & Team Meeting. I will keep on reading > messages to learn more before that day as well as after. I will > keep you all posted on how I do with that appointment. Have a > Great Day! > > bbskity (Barry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 Hi Barry, We're just as glad to have you here as you are to be here. I'm really glad that you have gained something from this great group. I've never been called a " guardian angel " before but it sure is nice. Wow...the appointment is getting very close. I'm so excited for you as know this is a very special time. Getting a CI is like a new birth and a re-entry into this wonderful world of sound. We'll all be anxious to hear about your appointment. Don't forget to ask us all the questions that come to mind. We'll do our best to answer them for you. You be sure to have a great day too! Alice > Well I must say as I have read many messages since I joined > the CI Hear that this is truly the place to learn. I read every day > and have progressed far in my needed & wanted to know > information about the CI's. I see a Guardian Angel in each & > everyone in this group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Perhaps, God is sad there is so much greed, and so much greed related to changing what he made perfect to begin with. We are all perfect in our own unique way ! ! ! Maybe we are the " chosen ones " to be the teachers for the future, to teach against modifying the body, and to start a new trend to " love the skin we are in........" as the bodies we occupy are God's gift to us.......we should live grateful and proud Love DedeStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Perhaps, God is sad there is so much greed, and so much greed related to changing what he made perfect to begin with. We are all perfect in our own unique way ! ! ! Maybe we are the " chosen ones " to be the teachers for the future, to teach against modifying the body, and to start a new trend to " love the skin we are in........" as the bodies we occupy are God's gift to us.......we should live grateful and proud Love DedeStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yes, He is incredibly loving towards us. My husband is constantly amazed at how I've survived all the things that I've done in my life and is sure God is looking out for us (he, my beloved kitty and me). An interesting thought occured to me yesterday; when I spoke to Dr. Feng's office the other day, she listed all the symptoms that point to reaction to implants. When I agreed I had several of them, she said that it is appearing that the women who react to them have certain genetic pre-dispositions, like rheumatiod arthritis in the family, that get triggered by the implant in the body. My thought was later that maybe, besides the money involved, women who have reactions aren't being taken seriously in part because we are being viewed as somewhat " defective " in the first place? Just a thought.... Love, Devon > > > > Thank you, Lea! I am so grateful for all the helpful information on > > conditions and medicines and alternative diets and healing that I > have > > found here. I hope to be able to be of some help as I go through > this > > explant and " life after explant " , so I will try to give back some > > little bit of what everyone has given me through sharing. God > > directed me here for a reason, of that I am very convinced. I am > ready > > to learn how to love my body, and I am ready to learn how to trust > > women again. That's a really big deal. But I have to give as well > as > > receive, so will try as best as I can figure out how to. > > Love, > > Devon > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yes, He is incredibly loving towards us. My husband is constantly amazed at how I've survived all the things that I've done in my life and is sure God is looking out for us (he, my beloved kitty and me). An interesting thought occured to me yesterday; when I spoke to Dr. Feng's office the other day, she listed all the symptoms that point to reaction to implants. When I agreed I had several of them, she said that it is appearing that the women who react to them have certain genetic pre-dispositions, like rheumatiod arthritis in the family, that get triggered by the implant in the body. My thought was later that maybe, besides the money involved, women who have reactions aren't being taken seriously in part because we are being viewed as somewhat " defective " in the first place? Just a thought.... Love, Devon > > > > Thank you, Lea! I am so grateful for all the helpful information on > > conditions and medicines and alternative diets and healing that I > have > > found here. I hope to be able to be of some help as I go through > this > > explant and " life after explant " , so I will try to give back some > > little bit of what everyone has given me through sharing. God > > directed me here for a reason, of that I am very convinced. I am > ready > > to learn how to love my body, and I am ready to learn how to trust > > women again. That's a really big deal. But I have to give as well > as > > receive, so will try as best as I can figure out how to. > > Love, > > Devon > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I totally agree Dede. Bob thinks that this will be the card they use in the future, tho, emphasis on " pre-existing " conditions. That is, assuming that another lawsuit ever makes it into being! Bodies are so variable that it is too easy for them to blow just about any condition off with something from that list! When I'm angry, I can't wait for it to all catch up with them, hit someone they know and love. When I'm in a better place, I just pity them. ( " They " being the manufacturers, their reps, the plastic surgeons, and the women who host web sites that are pro-BA.) I'm getting rather tired of being told that I'm not fine the way I am, so much so, that I never watch TV anymore, and don't choose to read the regular magazines, either. Love, Devon > > Ya know Devon, that is what they > play up to, defective anyway, but you > know every single human has pre-disposition > to something in the family ! ! ! > Another brainwashing tactic they use is > to sell the implants they say it is so women > 1. Can become normal > 2. Have confidence > 3. Fit in clothes > 4. be sexy > 5. be beautiful > 6. the list goes on....... > then once you get them, you become : > 1. neurotic > 2. psycho > 3. hypochondriac > 4. just want to sue for easy money > 5. this list goes on and on toooooooo > after implants all the list that you get them for > in the beginning ceases to exist and are replaced > by the neurotic list....... > All the brainwashing selling points they use, turn > into brainwashing the public that we all are now neurotic. > and the public believes both.......what contradiction ! ! > Love Dede > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I totally agree Dede. Bob thinks that this will be the card they use in the future, tho, emphasis on " pre-existing " conditions. That is, assuming that another lawsuit ever makes it into being! Bodies are so variable that it is too easy for them to blow just about any condition off with something from that list! When I'm angry, I can't wait for it to all catch up with them, hit someone they know and love. When I'm in a better place, I just pity them. ( " They " being the manufacturers, their reps, the plastic surgeons, and the women who host web sites that are pro-BA.) I'm getting rather tired of being told that I'm not fine the way I am, so much so, that I never watch TV anymore, and don't choose to read the regular magazines, either. Love, Devon > > Ya know Devon, that is what they > play up to, defective anyway, but you > know every single human has pre-disposition > to something in the family ! ! ! > Another brainwashing tactic they use is > to sell the implants they say it is so women > 1. Can become normal > 2. Have confidence > 3. Fit in clothes > 4. be sexy > 5. be beautiful > 6. the list goes on....... > then once you get them, you become : > 1. neurotic > 2. psycho > 3. hypochondriac > 4. just want to sue for easy money > 5. this list goes on and on toooooooo > after implants all the list that you get them for > in the beginning ceases to exist and are replaced > by the neurotic list....... > All the brainwashing selling points they use, turn > into brainwashing the public that we all are now neurotic. > and the public believes both.......what contradiction ! ! > Love Dede > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 You are right Dede. God knows that we are are strong enough to love the skin we're in. We're trendsetters and my gosh, we're absolutely beautiful.Love ya,TraciDGRAHAMA@... wrote: Perhaps, God is sad there is so much greed, and so much greed related to changing what he made perfect to begin with. We are all perfect in our own unique way ! ! ! Maybe we are the " chosen ones " to be the teachers for the future, to teach against modifying the body, and to start a new trend to " love the skin we are in........" as the bodies we occupy are God's gift to us.......we should live grateful and proud Love DedeStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 You are right Dede. God knows that we are are strong enough to love the skin we're in. We're trendsetters and my gosh, we're absolutely beautiful.Love ya,TraciDGRAHAMA@... wrote: Perhaps, God is sad there is so much greed, and so much greed related to changing what he made perfect to begin with. We are all perfect in our own unique way ! ! ! Maybe we are the " chosen ones " to be the teachers for the future, to teach against modifying the body, and to start a new trend to " love the skin we are in........" as the bodies we occupy are God's gift to us.......we should live grateful and proud Love DedeStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 You may have something there! I can never figure out what he wants with me, but anyone who can design and run one or more universes probably doesn't look at things like I do:-))) > > Perhaps, God is sad there is so much > greed, and so much greed related to > changing what he made perfect to begin > with. We are all perfect in our own unique > way ! ! ! > Maybe we are the " chosen ones " to be the > teachers for the future, to teach against > modifying the body, and to start a new trend > to " love the skin we are in........ " > as the bodies we occupy are God's gift to > us.......we should live grateful and proud > Love Dede > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 hmmm, sounds like encounters of the 3rd. kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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