Sick again

April 21, 2004

Kendra,

I am sorry to hear you are ill. We all know how difficult

respiratory infections can be on us. I wish you a fast recovery. :0)

-na Arteta

> hello everyone. ive been really sick since wednesday night. i was

> feeling it that morning and took zinc but its just bad now. ive

been

> having a really hard time breathing, extremely congested. i am

> thankful for the vest machine even though it hurts - its helping

with

> loosening phlegm and i was able to cough up a lot all by myself!

> (myself and my mom get VERY excited about this - its a first and i

> believe its all due to the vest.) unfortunately im not getting

enough

> out - its a temporary fix to get air through immediately, but im

still

> congested and its building up rapidly. ive had 99-101F temp since

> friday night without any luck of bringing it down. ive been on

> ibuprofen and that will bring it down a bit and make me pass out

but 4

> hours later and im awake again. im also taking a robitussin

> expectorant. this just isnt doing enough and my doctor agreed

> yesterday just from hearing the symptoms and how i sound over the

> phone. my mom and i are going into the hospital tomorrow for an

xray

> and we're gonna see the doc and maybe find a better med to help me

get

> better quicker. ive been trying to get as much bed rest as i can

but i

> just have so many things going on! ive been out staying out of

work or

> social gatherings that last longer than an hour or two - my head

just

> starts spinning if i dont.

>

> i cant remember a time ive been sick so often ever before. this is

the

> fourth time since december, and theyve all been fairly horrible

that

> some bed rest, good food and counter meds dont help much. :\

>

> ~kendra

April 26, 2004

I'd ask to see your regular doctor. How high are your fevers? Mine got to

102.1 last thursday, went down to 99.6 on friday, back up to 101.6 over the

weekend. I also coughed up a fricken lung today which was very uncool. Have

you

tried Robitussin? Works wonders for me. Good luck.

*Amy*

Mother to Caitlyn Mae - born to heaven 3/26/98

Olivia Isabelle - born to earth 9/18/03

Wife to Will 11/03/95

http://community.webshots.com/user/blueyedaze

April 26, 2004

In a message dated 4/26/2004 9:17:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,

kendra@... writes:

but I'm still sick to the point I'm out of work for the

third week in a row.

I was wondering how people who work deal with this? Are your employers

usually understanding or are you constantly worrying about losing your job? I'd

love

to get a job one day but it seems there's always something that would prevent

me from getting to work everyday (trach problems and what not).

Deena

April 26, 2004

I went back to that stupid doctor again for a follow up. I'm feeling

much better, but I'm still sick to the point I'm out of work for the

third week in a row. The antibiotic will run out on Wednesday. I'm

still congested and having sinus problems. I'm still running fevers

daily. Thankfully I'm able to breathe okay - but not as great as

before I was sick. I asked the doctor what will happen since I'm still

sick and she said that since I'm doing okay with the nebulizer and

vest compressions that she doesn't see a problem. I explained that I

was worried if I stopped medications with congestion and sinus

problems and fevers still that it would get worse and she replied " in

the real world, everyone is always sick. you'll just get used to it. "

I was quite confused that I replied only with " uhh..what? " She said I

don't have anything to worry about and to go home and rest. I kept

telling her that I'm still worried because with the SMA and my weak

immune system I doubt if I'll fight this off completely (or at least

anytime soon - two and a half weeks of being this sick is long enough

for me as it is). I suppose I'm not looking for more medications but

just a simple " don't worry, in my opinion you'll be fine " and another

follow up appointment - just so I know they don't think this case is

closed. We aren't like other people. Our immune systems don't take the

meds and kick into full gear. Perhaps I should ask to see my regular

doctor? Or maybe I am just being worried and I will get better soon? I

just don't want to get that bad again.

~Kendra

April 26, 2004

I'm ranging from 99.4 - 101.7. I've gone through an entire bottle of

robitussin dm before i got put on the zithromax. i suppose i'll start

the robitussin again until im better. are you using the robitussin dm

or something else?

ive been learning how to cough up stuff (i dont really have a choice)

and have found a few helpful methods - mostly using gravity, leaning

over beds while someone beats the bejesus out of me. ahh, the joys! my

boss wanted to know why i cant return to work, i just kept explaining

the seriousness of SMA and difficulties im having breathing. perhaps

i'll invite him over to take the midnight shift of pounding my chest

to demonstrate how useful i'd be at my desk - hehehe.

~kendra

> I'd ask to see your regular doctor. How high are your fevers? Mine

got to

> 102.1 last thursday, went down to 99.6 on friday, back up to 101.6

over the

> weekend. I also coughed up a fricken lung today which was very

uncool. Have you

> tried Robitussin? Works wonders for me. Good luck.

>

> *Amy*

> Mother to Caitlyn Mae - born to heaven 3/26/98

> Olivia Isabelle - born to earth 9/18/03

> Wife to Will 11/03/95

> http://community.webshots.com/user/blueyedaze

>

April 26, 2004

I'm not worried about losing my job because I don't particularly enjoy

it. Plus I'm leaving in a couple weeks anyways. For the most part

my boss wouldn't ever fire me. He's lost without me. As for any other

job or future career choices, this is something that I do worry about.

I just hope they will be understanding and feel I'm valuable enough to

support me and not just dump me out with the nightly trash.

> In a message dated 4/26/2004 9:17:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> kendra@l... writes:

> but I'm still sick to the point I'm out of work for the

> third week in a row.

> I was wondering how people who work deal with this? Are your employers

> usually understanding or are you constantly worrying about losing

your job? I'd love

> to get a job one day but it seems there's always something that

would prevent

> me from getting to work everyday (trach problems and what not).

>

> Deena

>

April 27, 2004

It¹s against the law (ADA) to fire a disabled person for absence due to

illness that is caused by a disability. The attendance rules should not

apply to you as long as you have proof (drs letter) that you are

legitimately sick.

N

On 4/27/04 12:34 AM, " Kendra " <kendra@...> wrote:

> I'm not worried about losing my job because I don't particularly enjoy

> it. Plus I'm leaving in a couple weeks anyways. For the most part

> my boss wouldn't ever fire me. He's lost without me. As for any other

> job or future career choices, this is something that I do worry about.

> I just hope they will be understanding and feel I'm valuable enough to

> support me and not just dump me out with the nightly trash.

>

>> > In a message dated 4/26/2004 9:17:21 PM Pacific Standard Time,

>> > kendra@l... writes:

>> > but I'm still sick to the point I'm out of work for the

>> > third week in a row.

>> > I was wondering how people who work deal with this? Are your employers

>> > usually understanding or are you constantly worrying about losing

> your job? I'd love

>> > to get a job one day but it seems there's always something that

> would prevent

>> > me from getting to work everyday (trach problems and what not).

>> >

>> > Deena

>> >

April 27, 2004

I'd have concerns too. I suffer from severe allergies, and I love Spring but

my head, eyes and sinus don't. I get sinus alot. Last year we thought we

found the right combination of drugs to keep everything under control. The

Medicaid system decided they didn't want to pay the price for the meds and

prescribed a cheaper brand and you guessed it the sinus, fevers and the yuckies

came

back. I took Amoxicillan, then Zithromax, Robitussin, Nasal sprays. I just

couldn't lick it. Yes I started to feel a little better then it came back with

avengence. I went through another round of Robitussin with Amoxicillan and

Zithromax. I was into my 3rd month of the crappy stuff I got bronchitis. I

saw my lung dr all this time and he told me the same thing. I totally fed up by

now went to my family dr and he gave me Augmentin. Cleared it right up, no

problem. He said something about it working on the sinus cavities. Last month

the Medicaid again switched Medicine brands and sure enough sinus came back.

I started Augmentin again and it cleared it up a whole lot quicker than

before. I don't feel the insurance companies should have the right to decide

what

medication you need just because of price. I had 1 I was taking that could

not be crushed but came in liquid form. They refused to pay it, they said too

expensive. I ended up staying 10 days at the hospital and then 4 months home

IV'S. And they said the other was too expensive, go figure. I'd fight this

with your drs till it goes away. Somethings just don't go away on their own.

April 27, 2004

this is nice in spirit, but is not actually true. if one is too sick to

perform the " essential functions " of the job and/or is consistently out of

work beyond the company's sick/vacation/un-paid leave policies, a company

can fire you. a doctor's letter may be required by a company to verify

absences if ALL employees are required to provide this.

if fired or otherwise affected, the disabled employee can file a

discrimination complaint under the ADA. the company then must prove that

the employee is unable to perform the " essential functions " of the job and

that their absences has caused " undue hardship " . the ADA was designed to

protect employers from harm as well as people with disabilities from

discrimination.

some creative ways to address potential or anticipated absences include:

- job sharing

- regular or periodic telecommuting

- saving up comp/vacation/sick time as allowed by personnel policies

- self-employment

i have successfully used some or all of these methods with 6 different

employers over the last 15 years. other ideas an be found

at: http://www.jan.wvu.edu/

alana

At 01:10 AM 4/27/04 -0500, you wrote:

>It¹s against the law (ADA) to fire a disabled person for absence due to

>illness that is caused by a disability. The attendance rules should not

>apply to you as long as you have proof (drs letter) that you are

>legitimately sick.

>

>N

April 27, 2004

In a message dated 4/27/2004 1:25:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kendra@... writes:

are you using the robitussin dm

or something else?

ive been learning how to cough up stuff

Yep, it's the DM stuff. Repulsive, isn't it? Me coughing is pretty much

equivalent to a mouse coughing and it gets old reaaally fast, but one thing I've

found that helps is pressing on my throat as I cough. I haven't had a cough

like this in 8 years and it's pissing me off! I've added it to my list of why

not to have kids when ya have SMA - damn germ spreaders! >=X

*Amy*

Mother to Caitlyn Mae - born to heaven 3/26/98

Olivia Isabelle - born to earth 9/18/03

Wife to Will 11/03/95

http://community.webshots.com/user/blueyedaze

April 27, 2004

Have you seen a pulmonologist? I am concerned about your doctor's lack of

concern.

When I get sick, even after the acute infection, I have congestion for 4 to

6 weeks. It's a big concern as I cannot use my suction machine

independently anymore (for about the last 9 months). I showed an OT at my

work how to do an assisted cough but she seems to be afraid to hurt me so

it's not very effective. I guess next time I'm sick I'll figure out what

I'm gonna do.

I hope you get better soon!

Lori

Re: sick again

I'm ranging from 99.4 - 101.7. I've gone through an entire bottle of

robitussin dm before i got put on the zithromax. i suppose i'll start

the robitussin again until im better. are you using the robitussin dm

or something else?

ive been learning how to cough up stuff (i dont really have a choice)

and have found a few helpful methods - mostly using gravity, leaning

over beds while someone beats the bejesus out of me. ahh, the joys! my

boss wanted to know why i cant return to work, i just kept explaining

the seriousness of SMA and difficulties im having breathing. perhaps

i'll invite him over to take the midnight shift of pounding my chest

to demonstrate how useful i'd be at my desk - hehehe.

~kendra

> I'd ask to see your regular doctor. How high are your fevers? Mine

got to

> 102.1 last thursday, went down to 99.6 on friday, back up to 101.6

over the

> weekend. I also coughed up a fricken lung today which was very

uncool. Have you

> tried Robitussin? Works wonders for me. Good luck.

>

> *Amy*

> Mother to Caitlyn Mae - born to heaven 3/26/98

> Olivia Isabelle - born to earth 9/18/03

> Wife to Will 11/03/95

> http://community.webshots.com/user/blueyedaze

>

April 29, 2004

yes I have year round allergies. I was on Claritin and it stopped working so

my Dr switched to Clarinex, but when Claritin came out over the counter the

insurance company switched and gave me the cheaper brand, Claritin. My

allergies flared up bad time and I got sinus infection . After taking

Amoxicillan

then Zithromax things seemed to calm down but then it came back with a vengence,

my sinus got infected then Bronchitis because of the drainage. I went

through they antibiotics cycle again. I finally was given Augmentin. This

month

the insurance company switched the Nasal spray and got my infection back, this

time the Dr gave me Augmentin right away. Everytime they switch my allergy

meds I get sick.

April 29, 2004

Jordan has allergies too. We've found that Allegra-D helps to control

them pretty well.

Re: Re: sick again

yes I have year round allergies. I was on Claritin and it stopped

working so

my Dr switched to Clarinex, but when Claritin came out over the counter

the

insurance company switched and gave me the cheaper brand, Claritin. My

allergies flared up bad time and I got sinus infection . After taking

Amoxicillan

then Zithromax things seemed to calm down but then it came back with a

vengence,

my sinus got infected then Bronchitis because of the drainage. I went

through they antibiotics cycle again. I finally was given Augmentin.

This month

the insurance company switched the Nasal spray and got my infection

back, this

time the Dr gave me Augmentin right away. Everytime they switch my

allergy

meds I get sick.

March 15, 2005

Hi Amy,

My advice would be to take her to the doctor if that's what your instincts are

telling you to do. It's worth the trouble to make sure nothing is seriously

wrong. However, the truth is that more than likely nothing is wrong. A fever

is a good thing, it means her immune system is working properly and is fighting

off whatever she has. Unless it spikes very rapidly, there is not much to worry

about. Give her Tylenol if she seems really uncomfortable, and then all you can

really do is ride it out. It stinks when kids are sick. Mine has had only one

cold this year, but it was a doozy, lasted a month, and she had a low grade

fever on and off for two weeks. I did bring her in, but my doctor, who is

really terriffic, could see that I was just needing reassurance, Gracie was not

really that sick!! One morning you'll wake up and she will be back to normal,

it's amazing how tough little ones are! Good luck, hope she's feeling better

soon!

Alice Burson

Loving wife of

SAHM to Gracie

__________________________________________________

March 15, 2005

Amy, we're in the UK and there have been some really strange bugs around

this year here. Persistent respiratory bugs that simply won't go away - or

they go, then come back again. We're getting very bored with them!

You say that Chaela had meds last time she was poorly? Were they a/bs? If

so, then in all probability the problem wasn't cured, just suppressed and is

possibly now resurfacing and needs to clear.

It is tough to see your child going through a fever, but according to my

temperature conversion (we tend to use celsius in the UK), she's only around

38.8. My dd often has a temperature of up to 40?C (104?F) and I don't get

overly concerned about it. The important thing about fevers is how quickly

they go up, not always how high. I've heard Sheri say that 104?F needn't be

that serious if it's gradual and Chaela's is nowhere near that.

Please remember that fever is the body's best response to its situation at

the given time - and if she has an infection that needs to be eliminated,

then any suppression of that fever is preventing it from doing its job.

Using something like paracetamol or ibuprofen might reduce the fever, but

will prevent her immune system from doing its job, and may cause liver

stress at the same time.

Don't force her to eat if she doesn't feel like it - fluid is the important

thing, and it's best to stick to plain water if she'll drink it. Any work

you give the digestive system to do by way of food or sugary drinks like

juice is going to divert the body from its job of healing. Fasting for a

couple of days won't hurt her and will give her body a chance to heal.

If she's handling the infection well and is not too bad in herself, try and

resist the impulse to offer different remedies - sometimes the best course

of action is inaction. If there is no clear symptom picture you can end up

prolonging the dis-ease of the body by inappropriate and over-frequent

prescribing. How often are you changing remedies and are you repertorising?

Could you feel comfortable with just let her body do its thing with

*nothing* else to divert it for a couple of days? Temperatures can be

reduced by bathing limbs one at a time with tepid water and a tepid compress

on the forehead, or a tepid bath. That and keeping fluid up (water) are the

best things for her - unless you're still breastfeeding? (Apologies - I

forget how old Chaela is!)

Another visit to the doctor will result in more a/bs, more paracetamol, more

suppression, and probably more problems in a few weeks because the body

still hasn't cleared out. And probably more hassle over vaxes! Unless she

is having trouble breathing, or the fever is climbing persistently and going

above 103/104?F, she's more likely to come out of the doctor's with more

than she went in with!

Hope she's better soon.

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of science

that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather than on

laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of Homoeopathy " .

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UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity for their children in

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> HI all in need of some advice as always.

> Chaela is sick again as you all recall she was sick a few weeks

> back with fever then cough very stuffy took to dr said it was

> sinus infection did meds she spiked a fever again yesterday last

> night rather of 102 and is still 101 today no real symptoms

> except very nasal. Is this a NEW virus I wonder or is this virus

> just stuck with us and wont leave. I am concerned at her getting

> another fever so soon. I am doing homeopathy but just doesnt seem

> to be doing much for her we are trying different remdies but not

> seeing any big improvement. She is acting ok alittle tired she

> isnt eating but is drinking some juice. HAve any of you

> experienced this with this yrs flu or virus thats going around. I

> was wondering if i should take her to DR to see if there is

> something else going on. ANy ideas or wisdom would be great I am

> not thinking clearly Mommy worry has set in.

>

> thanks

> amy

>

March 15, 2005

Thanks for the reply. I called the Dr he is calling me back. she

brought to my attention it burned when she pee'd i inspected and she

is read with some discharge I am assuming yeast infection from

antibiotics so I am giving probiotic but that wont cause fever so

could be UTI maybe? its always a guessing game.

I work with Phyliss so she is helping with remedies. She is handling

hte fever ok normal really except for eating which is fine. She is

sleeping now hoping she feels better when she wakes. Its so

frustrating trying to guess whats wrong and if you should take them

in or not. I guess I will wait and see what Dr says and go from

there.

thanks for the thoughtful reply

amy

> Amy, we're in the UK and there have been some really strange bugs

around

> this year here. Persistent respiratory bugs that simply won't go

away - or

> they go, then come back again. We're getting very bored with them!

>

> You say that Chaela had meds last time she was poorly? Were they

a/bs? If

> so, then in all probability the problem wasn't cured, just

suppressed and is

> possibly now resurfacing and needs to clear.

>

> It is tough to see your child going through a fever, but according

to my

> temperature conversion (we tend to use celsius in the UK), she's

only around

> 38.8. My dd often has a temperature of up to 40?C (104?F) and I

don't get

> overly concerned about it. The important thing about fevers is

how quickly

> they go up, not always how high. I've heard Sheri say that 104?F

needn't be

> that serious if it's gradual and Chaela's is nowhere near that.

>

> Please remember that fever is the body's best response to its

situation at

> the given time - and if she has an infection that needs to be

eliminated,

> then any suppression of that fever is preventing it from doing its

job.

> Using something like paracetamol or ibuprofen might reduce the

fever, but

> will prevent her immune system from doing its job, and may cause

liver

> stress at the same time.

>

> Don't force her to eat if she doesn't feel like it - fluid is the

important

> thing, and it's best to stick to plain water if she'll drink it.

Any work

> you give the digestive system to do by way of food or sugary

drinks like

> juice is going to divert the body from its job of healing.

Fasting for a

> couple of days won't hurt her and will give her body a chance to

heal.

>

> If she's handling the infection well and is not too bad in

herself, try and

> resist the impulse to offer different remedies - sometimes the

best course

> of action is inaction. If there is no clear symptom picture you

can end up

> prolonging the dis-ease of the body by inappropriate and over-

frequent

> prescribing. How often are you changing remedies and are you

repertorising?

> Could you feel comfortable with just let her body do its thing with

> *nothing* else to divert it for a couple of days? Temperatures

can be

> reduced by bathing limbs one at a time with tepid water and a

tepid compress

> on the forehead, or a tepid bath. That and keeping fluid up

(water) are the

> best things for her - unless you're still breastfeeding?

(Apologies - I

> forget how old Chaela is!)

>

> Another visit to the doctor will result in more a/bs, more

paracetamol, more

> suppression, and probably more problems in a few weeks because the

body

> still hasn't cleared out. And probably more hassle over vaxes!

Unless she

> is having trouble breathing, or the fever is climbing persistently

and going

> above 103/104?F, she's more likely to come out of the doctor's

with more

> than she went in with!

>

> Hope she's better soon.

>

> Love, light and peace,

>

> Sue

>

> " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of

science

> that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather

than on

> laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of

Homoeopathy " .

>

> MMRcontactnetworkUK - putting non-

vaccinating

> UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity for their

children in

> touch with each other

> Imperfectly_Natural_Parents_UK - for

all

> imperfectly natural parents everywhere!

> OT4VAX - Off-topic conversation for

> Vaccinations list members

>

> > HI all in need of some advice as always.

> > Chaela is sick again as you all recall she was sick a few weeks

> > back with fever then cough very stuffy took to dr said it was

> > sinus infection did meds she spiked a fever again yesterday last

> > night rather of 102 and is still 101 today no real symptoms

> > except very nasal. Is this a NEW virus I wonder or is this virus

> > just stuck with us and wont leave. I am concerned at her getting

> > another fever so soon. I am doing homeopathy but just doesnt seem

> > to be doing much for her we are trying different remdies but not

> > seeing any big improvement. She is acting ok alittle tired she

> > isnt eating but is drinking some juice. HAve any of you

> > experienced this with this yrs flu or virus thats going around. I

> > was wondering if i should take her to DR to see if there is

> > something else going on. ANy ideas or wisdom would be great I am

> > not thinking clearly Mommy worry has set in.

> >

> > thanks

> > amy

> >

March 15, 2005

ABSOLUTELY NEVER EVER GIVE TYLENOL FOR FEVER. sorry

for shouting but i felt it was justified in this case.

alice, do a search in the archives of this list,

you'll find plenty of articles that prove

scientifically why giving tylenol and the like can be

absolutely fatal if fever is treated that way.

claudia

--- Alice Burson <coloradoalice@...> wrote:

> Hi Amy,

> My advice would be to take her to the doctor if

> that's what your instincts are telling you to do.

> It's worth the trouble to make sure nothing is

> seriously wrong. However, the truth is that more

> than likely nothing is wrong. A fever is a good

> thing, it means her immune system is working

> properly and is fighting off whatever she has.

> Unless it spikes very rapidly, there is not much to

> worry about. Give her Tylenol if she seems really

> uncomfortable, and then all you can really do is

> ride it out. It stinks when kids are sick. Mine

> has had only one cold this year, but it was a doozy,

> lasted a month, and she had a low grade fever on and

> off for two weeks. I did bring her in, but my

> doctor, who is really terriffic, could see that I

> was just needing reassurance, Gracie was not really

> that sick!! One morning you'll wake up and she will

> be back to normal, it's amazing how tough little

> ones are! Good luck, hope she's feeling better

> soon!

>

> Alice Burson

> Loving wife of

> SAHM to Gracie

>

> __________________________________________________

>

March 15, 2005

Hold on to your Hat claudia {GRIN}} I didnt give tylenol that is one thing i

do try to NOT give at any cost for fever. The fever wasnt high enough for that

it was just 102 and she was comfortable etc. Just the stupid fever for NO reason

that I can see. whidh is what bothers me. I can see up her nose that it is all

swollen in there so that explains why she is snoring and cant breath UGGGHH.

This is begingi to drive me crazy

thanks

amy

Re: sick again

ABSOLUTELY NEVER EVER GIVE TYLENOL FOR FEVER. sorry

for shouting but i felt it was justified in this case.

alice, do a search in the archives of this list,

you'll find plenty of articles that prove

scientifically why giving tylenol and the like can be

absolutely fatal if fever is treated that way.

claudia

--- Alice Burson <coloradoalice@...> wrote:

> Hi Amy,

> My advice would be to take her to the doctor if

> that's what your instincts are telling you to do.

> It's worth the trouble to make sure nothing is

> seriously wrong. However, the truth is that more

> than likely nothing is wrong. A fever is a good

> thing, it means her immune system is working

> properly and is fighting off whatever she has.

> Unless it spikes very rapidly, there is not much to

> worry about. Give her Tylenol if she seems really

> uncomfortable, and then all you can really do is

> ride it out. It stinks when kids are sick. Mine

> has had only one cold this year, but it was a doozy,

> lasted a month, and she had a low grade fever on and

> off for two weeks. I did bring her in, but my

> doctor, who is really terriffic, could see that I

> was just needing reassurance, Gracie was not really

> that sick!! One morning you'll wake up and she will

> be back to normal, it's amazing how tough little

> ones are! Good luck, hope she's feeling better

> soon!

>

> Alice Burson

> Loving wife of

> SAHM to Gracie

>

> __________________________________________________

>

March 15, 2005

A UTI could be responsible for a fever, Amy, certainly. If that's the case

then plain water will dilute her urine and reduce the stinging and pain.

Some bicarb in her bath might also help. Essential oils of sandalwood and

lavender are good for urinary infections.

I didn't realise you worked with Phyllis - my apologies.

I do hope she feels much better soon.

Love, light and peace,

Sue

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> Re: sick again

>

> Thanks for the reply. I called the Dr he is calling me back. she

> brought to my attention it burned when she pee'd i inspected and she

> is read with some discharge I am assuming yeast infection from

> antibiotics so I am giving probiotic but that wont cause fever so

> could be UTI maybe? its always a guessing game.

>

> I work with Phyliss so she is helping with remedies. She is handling

> hte fever ok normal really except for eating which is fine. She is

> sleeping now hoping she feels better when she wakes. Its so

> frustrating trying to guess whats wrong and if you should take them

> in or not. I guess I will wait and see what Dr says and go from

> there.

> thanks for the thoughtful reply

>

> amy

>

> > Amy, we're in the UK and there have been some really strange bugs

> around

> > this year here. Persistent respiratory bugs that simply won't go

> away - or

> > they go, then come back again. We're getting very bored with them!

> >

> > You say that Chaela had meds last time she was poorly? Were they

> a/bs? If

> > so, then in all probability the problem wasn't cured, just

> suppressed and is

> > possibly now resurfacing and needs to clear.

> >

> > It is tough to see your child going through a fever, but according

> to my

> > temperature conversion (we tend to use celsius in the UK), she's

> only around

> > 38.8. My dd often has a temperature of up to 40?C (104?F) and I

> don't get

> > overly concerned about it. The important thing about fevers is

> how quickly

> > they go up, not always how high. I've heard Sheri say that 104?F

> needn't be

> > that serious if it's gradual and Chaela's is nowhere near that.

> >

> > Please remember that fever is the body's best response to its

> situation at

> > the given time - and if she has an infection that needs to be

> eliminated,

> > then any suppression of that fever is preventing it from doing its

> job.

> > Using something like paracetamol or ibuprofen might reduce the

> fever, but

> > will prevent her immune system from doing its job, and may cause

> liver

> > stress at the same time.

> >

> > Don't force her to eat if she doesn't feel like it - fluid is the

> important

> > thing, and it's best to stick to plain water if she'll drink it.

> Any work

> > you give the digestive system to do by way of food or sugary

> drinks like

> > juice is going to divert the body from its job of healing.

> Fasting for a

> > couple of days won't hurt her and will give her body a chance to

> heal.

> >

> > If she's handling the infection well and is not too bad in

> herself, try and

> > resist the impulse to offer different remedies - sometimes the

> best course

> > of action is inaction. If there is no clear symptom picture you

> can end up

> > prolonging the dis-ease of the body by inappropriate and over-

> frequent

> > prescribing. How often are you changing remedies and are you

> repertorising?

> > Could you feel comfortable with just let her body do its thing with

> > *nothing* else to divert it for a couple of days? Temperatures

> can be

> > reduced by bathing limbs one at a time with tepid water and a

> tepid compress

> > on the forehead, or a tepid bath. That and keeping fluid up

> (water) are the

> > best things for her - unless you're still breastfeeding?

> (Apologies - I

> > forget how old Chaela is!)

> >

> > Another visit to the doctor will result in more a/bs, more

> paracetamol, more

> > suppression, and probably more problems in a few weeks because the

> body

> > still hasn't cleared out. And probably more hassle over vaxes!

> Unless she

> > is having trouble breathing, or the fever is climbing persistently

> and going

> > above 103/104?F, she's more likely to come out of the doctor's

> with more

> > than she went in with!

> >

> > Hope she's better soon.

> >

> > Love, light and peace,

> >

> > Sue

> >

> > " It is not unfair to conclude that medicine is the only branch of

> science

> > that has based its structure on opinions and suppositions rather

> than on

> > laws and principles. " - Vithoulkas, " The Science of

> Homoeopathy " .

> >

> > MMRcontactnetworkUK - putting non-

> vaccinating

> > UK parents looking for naturally acquired immunity for their

> children in

> > touch with each other

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> all

> > imperfectly natural parents everywhere!

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> >

> > > HI all in need of some advice as always.

> > > Chaela is sick again as you all recall she was sick a few weeks

> > > back with fever then cough very stuffy took to dr said it was

> > > sinus infection did meds she spiked a fever again yesterday last

> > > night rather of 102 and is still 101 today no real symptoms

> > > except very nasal. Is this a NEW virus I wonder or is this virus

> > > just stuck with us and wont leave. I am concerned at her getting

> > > another fever so soon. I am doing homeopathy but just doesnt seem

> > > to be doing much for her we are trying different remdies but not

> > > seeing any big improvement. She is acting ok alittle tired she

> > > isnt eating but is drinking some juice. HAve any of you

> > > experienced this with this yrs flu or virus thats going around. I

> > > was wondering if i should take her to DR to see if there is

> > > something else going on. ANy ideas or wisdom would be great I am

> > > not thinking clearly Mommy worry has set in.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > amy

> > >

March 15, 2005

i am just grasping at straws really I have no idea what is causing her fever. I

am waiting on Dr to call to see if he can offer any advice. She does have a

swollen lymph node on her neck which I am assuuming is from being sick but yet

another worry. I am assuming he will want to do blood work on her ugghh

amy

Ps thanks for all the advice