Adrenals

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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 00:59:54 -0000

From: " pittsburghyellow <joycekehoe@...> " <joycekehoe@...>

Subject: ADRENALS

Hi, I am going to the doctor tomorrow and am trying to locate a post

about a few things that someone on the list supplemented with

sublingually to help restore their adrenals. I can't find it even

with doing keyword searches.

Hi, Joyce.

I don't know the original message re: adrenals but can tell you I am on B-6

vitamins to help my adrenals (and PMS symptoms). My doctor had said that

once you balance your hormones (good diet, exercise, supplements,

meditation/breathing exercises) that we shouldn't even know our period is

coming. I'm so sensitive (PMS) right now that I could read an article in the

paper and start to cry. Hope this helps.

It was something like gluco...sone and something else. The post said

that these things can be taken to give the adrenals a break. Then

they restore themselves.

It's supposed to not have bad effects on the adrenals the way that

some hormone replacement can have on glands.

Could someone repost?

Thanks!

Joyce

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In a message dated 6/10/2003 8:34:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,

janeandrews@... writes:

> Yes thyroid, candida and adrenal exhaustion go together so if you have

> adrenal probs you probably have thyroid etc.

>

Could someone please explain to me what adrenal exhaustion is?

Thanks!

Alva

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From: <Dreemaun@...>

<candidiasis >

Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:47 PM

Subject: Re: adrenals

> In a message dated 6/10/2003 8:34:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> janeandrews@... writes:

>

>

> > Yes thyroid, candida and adrenal exhaustion go together so if you have

> > adrenal probs you probably have thyroid etc.

> >

>

> Could someone please explain to me what adrenal exhaustion is?

>

> Thanks!

> Alva

http://www.adrenalfatigue.com/ and the book he offers will help

you in this matter.

Larry

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--- In candidiasis , " NotDoctors.com " <larry@n...> >

Could someone please explain to me what adrenal exhaustion is?

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Alva

>

> http://www.adrenalfatigue.com/ and the book he offers will help

> you in this matter.

>

> Larry

Hi all

Just to say that my adrenals have been so exhausted that I have been

taking 15 mg hydrocortisone a day plus 1 grain of Armour and they

have given me my life back. (Treatment for 7 months so far(.

I still have a candida problem but all this is due to mercury

poisoning from my dental amalgams. My story is at www.bertiedog.com.

Pam

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Thanks. I always read all the side effects and symptoms of ODing

before taking anything, better safe than sorry.

I believe that the huge amount of steroids they gave me at that time

messed up my adrenals for good. Also, a few years after that, the

thyroid symptoms started. In 1992 I had to take 6 months off school

because I had a giant purple rash all over my joints. I went to a

gazillion doctors and they took pictures and called in med students -

and gave me more steroids. I took about 3 of them, the maximum dosage

for each, for over 4 months straight, then stopped and the rash came

back and I had to take it again.

I've never seen a rash like that, other than my uncle once had

something similar that also nobody knew how to treat. It was a

purple, raised rash that felt hot to the touch, on the joints - first

on the outside of my knees and elbows, but huge, spreading to the

arms and legs, and then it seemed to move to the inside. The doctors

just called it " giant rash " . How nice. Anyway, for 6 months it

covered me, and then for like a year after every time my immunity was

lowered, my knees got a bit purplish, as if the rash was gonna come

back. The doctors gave up and decided to call it " psychosomatic " .

My uncle had the same thing on the knuckles once... but his stayed

there, didn't spread. That is another of my many medical mysteries,

ha ha.

Jan

> You have done your homework and you know what you need to do. All

of

> this info has to be posted if not for you than for someone else who

> does not understand. All this does is further someone's search.

>

> And it's very true dosing for one person is not the same for

another

> going by their size and weight besides how low they are and how

much

> damage is done.

>

> Most of this is trial and error even with the test results. But we

> all need to post the what if's. You just never know who will use

the

> info wrong.

>

> I think it would be great for you to finally feel better--both you

> and Shelia have long term complicated, mulitple illness related

most

> likely from being under treated over the years.

>

> And you are right months of steriods could have impaired your

> adrenals--if you have to supplement them now to be normal so be it.

>

> As in so many articles posted on adrenal and thyroid problems it's

> better to keep on trying as long as you know what side effects to

> look for in case of overdose.

>

> We have to be our own keepers!!! no one else will do it for us---

take

> care !!! tina

>

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The doctors gave up and decided to call it " psychosomatic " .

Isn't that usually referred to something that you can't see? what dummies!!

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no it means the illness is being caused by the poor mental state of the

patient, so she would need a shrink! LOL Remember when so many women's

illnesses were all in their heads!

Gracia

> The doctors gave up and decided to call it " psychosomatic " .

>

> Isn't that usually referred to something that you can't see? what

dummies!!

>

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>

>

>

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That is like, when you read about a disease and give yourself the

disease psychologically. Or you can give yourself migraines to avoid

a situation you don't want. Like when women who really wanna have a

baby imagine they're pregnant and their bellies grow and their

periods stop and they even lactate.

But why on earth and how would I give myself a rash? It is easy to

give yourself nausea or migraines, but a rash?

Jan

> The doctors gave up and decided to call it " psychosomatic " .

>

> Isn't that usually referred to something that you can't see? what

dummies!!

>

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Of course. My thyroid disease, including goiter and galactorrhea, was

all in my had, and so was the giant rash - I was just imagining I had

a rash, probably.

All of women's problems can be solved with Prozac these days. PMS,

thyroid disease, anything. It is so Stepford Wives - keep women

drugged and they won't complain.

Jan

>

> no it means the illness is being caused by the poor mental state of

the

> patient, so she would need a shrink! LOL Remember when so many

women's

> illnesses were all in their heads!

> Gracia

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look at http://www.drrind.com

http://www.geocities.com/thyroide will take you to other places too.

Gracia

> Hello all - I wanted information on adrenals and effects on the

> thyroid. I don't know much about it and if its something I need to

> look into to feel better. Is there any good info out there about

> it? A website maybe?

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

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http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=25 & i=159

http://www.advance-health.com/HypoAdrenal.html

http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=1984

http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=1989

http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=1930

http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=673

http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=273

http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp#7

http://www.drrind.com/faq.asp#wilsons

http://users.bestweb.net/~om/thyroid/

adrenals

Hello all - I wanted information on adrenals and effects on the

thyroid. I don't know much about it and if its something I need to

look into to feel better. Is there any good info out there about

it? A website maybe?

Thanks

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Tanks so much guys:)

> http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=25 & i=159

>

> http://www.advance-health.com/HypoAdrenal.html

>

> http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=1984

>

> http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=1989

>

> http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=1930

>

> http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=673

>

> http://www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=273

>

> http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp#7

>

> http://www.drrind.com/faq.asp#wilsons

>

> http://users.bestweb.net/~om/thyroid/

>

> adrenals

>

>

> Hello all - I wanted information on adrenals and effects on the

> thyroid. I don't know much about it and if its something I need

to

> look into to feel better. Is there any good info out there about

> it? A website maybe?

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

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's site has stuff on it http://thyroid.about.com and also Dr. Rind

www.drrind.com

Jan

mwcislo wrote:

>Hello all - I wanted information on adrenals and effects on the

>thyroid. I don't know much about it and if its something I need to

>look into to feel better. Is there any good info out there about

>it? A website maybe?

>Thanks

>

>

>

>

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http://www.diagnostechs.com/main.htm

http://www.futureformulations.com/index.cfm

cloudedtears <cloudedtears@...> wrote: IS THERE A TEST FOR

ADRENALS....ALSO WHAT ARE SOME GOOD SUPPLEMENTS

FOR ADRENAL FATIGUE? I AM SO TIRED OF BEING TIRED

[Guest guest]

Blood test for adrenals isn't worth anything and won't tell you much. B

vitamins, C, vitamin D, healthy fats help adrenals, also glandulars. Best

to find a doc who can help you.

http://www.geocities.com/thyroide

http://www.brodabarnes.org

Gracia

> IS THERE A TEST FOR ADRENALS....ALSO WHAT ARE SOME GOOD SUPPLEMENTS

> FOR ADRENAL FATIGUE? I AM SO TIRED OF BEING TIRED

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI ,

you sound fit as a fiddle!!!!

I agree - you probably are not hypoT.

IMO as I have said before You should find a good holistic practitioner

to fine tune your health - and help with the problems you do have and

forget about the blood tests - it was just a moment in time - TSH is not

a reliable indicator of thyroid function.

Kerry

RE: re adrenals

>

>Hi ,

>I was just getting some info from Shomon's site for another post

>and I saw this and thought it might be helpful to you in considering if

>you have adrenal issues. I also remembered that a major adrenal sign is

>salt craving - which I have had for years, I also have low blood sugar

>and low blood pressure etc etc. Anyway here is the bit from Dr Shames

>interview.:

>

>A major connection exists between low thyroid and low adrenal. Low

>adrenal, also called adrenal insufficiency, can actually cause

someone's

>thyroid problem to be much worse than it would be otherwise. Correction

>of low adrenal is similar to correction of low thyroid. You merely take

>a pill that contains some of the hormone you are lacking. In the case

of

>low thyroid, you obviously take thyroid hormone. In the case of low

>adrenal, you simply take some adrenal hormone. Chapter 7 in

><http://www.thyroid-info.com/thyroidpower.htm> Thyroid Power assures

you

>that doing so, when appropriate, is not only safe and effective, but it

>can change your life for the better.

>

>Cortisol is in the category of medicines called steroids, a class of

>body substances that derive their name from the fact that they are

built

>upon the structure of the common cholesterol molecule. Both health

>practitioners and the lay public have great concern about the safety of

>taking oral steroids. We would like to address this issue directly by

>making a distinction between high-dose steroid therapy and low-dose

>adrenal supplementation.

>

>What we are talking about is the use of small amounts of natural

adrenal

>hormone (hydrocortisone) to bring slightly low adrenal function up to

>its proper normal daily range. This is in stark contrast to the high

>doses of powerful synthetic adrenal hormones commonly used to treat

>severe health problems, or to assist in building muscles.

>

> Shomon: Why is it important for low thyroid people to know the

>levels of their adrenal hormones?

>

>Drs. Shames: Adrenal insufficiency symptoms include: weakness, lack of

>libido, allergies, dark circles under the eyes, muscle and joint pain,

>dizziness, low blood pressure, low blood sugar, food and salt cravings,

>poor sleep, dry skin, cystic breasts, lines of dark pigment in nails,

>difficulty recuperating from stresses like colds or jet lag, no stamina

>for confrontation, tendency to startle easily, lowered immune function,

>anxiety, depression, and premature aging. Some of these symptoms are

>similar to those of low thyroid.

>

>If low-thyroid people with these symptoms are put on thyroid hormone

>alone, they sometimes respond negatively. These people may have

>coexistent, but hidden, low adrenal. If they take thyroid hormone by

>itself, the resultant increased metabolism may accelerate the low

>adrenal problem.

>

>The addition of thyroid hormone in this situation unmasks the also

>disturbing low adrenal situation. The proper approach in this case is

to

>treat the patient with thyroid and adrenal support simultaneously.

>regards,

>Kerry

>

>

>

>

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,

For whatever it's worth, I think you may not even belong on this list-

-because I also don't think there's anything wrong with you either--

in the way of thyroid or adrenal, I mean.;-) But do stay anyway!

Gail

In hypothyroidism , " L. on "

<res075oh@v...> wrote:

> Yet Gracia sees the exact same symptom chart and decides I have an

> adrenal problem; although I'm negative on the vast majority of

> symptoms. And most of the positive ones are on going for over 55

> years. Go figure...

>

> Hey, how about the rest of you joining here! So far it's a one to

one

> tie yes/no [ggg].

>

>

>

>

> Message: 16

> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:42:27 +1000

> From: " Kerry Ann Faithfull " <kerry@o...>

> Subject: RE: adrenals

>

> HI ,

> you sound fit as a fiddle!!!!

> I agree - you probably are not hypoT.

> IMO as I have said before You should find a good holistic

practitioner

> to fine tune your health - and help with the problems you do have

and

> forget about the blood tests - it was just a moment in time - TSH

is not

> a reliable indicator of thyroid function.

> Kerry

>

> adrenals

>

>

> Hi, Kerry. I was aware of the oftentimes confluence of low thyroid

and

> low adrenals output and so I did a little research for the usual

> symptoms of low adrenal [as well as thyroid] output. I guess I

found

> about the same list you provided, and concluded that I probably do

not

> have low adrenal output; which was confirmed by lab results. I'll

> comment on my symptoms in your list and anyone who would like to

help

> with your opinion would be appreciated. Here's your list with my

> comments:

>

>

> >> Drs. Shames: Adrenal insufficiency symptoms include: weakness,

> >

> >

>

> I don't suffer from weakness or lack of energy.

>

>

> >> lack of libido,

> >

> >

>

> At age 64 I've noticed a marked lowering of libido; but there are

> specific factors other than adrenals that are implicated. However,

I

> can not rule it out; but I suspect testosterone would be much more

> effective than cortisol.

>

>

> >> allergies,

> >

> >

>

> I've had allergies for 55 to 60 years; and the symptoms over the

past 4

> to 5 years have been greatly reduced. I have had a minor flare-up

of

> the itching eyes over the past month or so... About the same

length of

> time I've been playing bass guitar in an environment that includes

> tobacco smoke... I have also sometime in the past few years been

> diagnosed with COPD.

>

>

> >> dark circles under the eyes,

> >

> >

>

> I do not have dark circles under my eyes.

>

>

> >> muscle and joint pain,

> >

> >

>

> I don't have any muscle or joint pain except for minor arthritis;

and

> the shoulder joint problem that is corrected with exercise [i

forget the

> name]. {Poor memory? [ggg]}

>

>

> >> dizziness,

> >

> >

>

> I don't usually have a problem with dizziness. I have once or twice

> when I stood up and turned rapidly.

>

>

> >> low blood pressure,

> >

> >

>

> My blood pressure is always normal.

>

>

> >> low blood sugar,

> >

> >

>

> My blood sugar is normal.

>

>

> >> food and salt cravings,

> >

> >

>

> I don't have food or salt cravings. I prefer less salt than does me

> wife.

>

>

> >> poor sleep,

> >

> >

>

> I've had poor sleep for 55 or 60 years. It's certainly nothing that

> would have been caused by a recent [or even recent decades] adrenal

or

> thyroid problem.

>

>

> >> dry skin,

> >

> >

>

> I don't have dry skin.

>

>

> >> cystic breasts,

> >

> >

>

> Negative. Does this refer only to females?

>

>

> >> lines of dark pigment in nails,

> >

> >

>

> I don't have this.

>

>

> >> difficulty recuperating from stresses like colds or jet lag,

> >

> >

>

> I've never noticed a problem with jet lag. As for colds, my wife

> complains that I will get a cold and be over it in 3 days while she

will

> get it from me and be sick for 3 weeks. That seems too often for

her

> typical. And she's a very health conscious vegetarian.

>

>

> >> no stamina

> >

> >

>

> No problem as far as I know; but I'm retired and lazy now! [ggg]

>

>

> >> for confrontation, tendency to startle easily,

> >

> >

>

> I do not startle easily.

>

>

> >> lowered immune function,

> >

> >

>

> I heal very rapidly from cuts and bruises. However, I bruise

easily now

> [over the past 3 years or so].

>

>

> >> anxiety, depression,

> >

> >

>

> I am positive for this symptom.

>

>

> >> and premature aging.

> >

> >

>

> I've had many comments [even arguments] sometimes when I tell

people my

> age [64]. My skin is pretty much wrinkle free; I have no puffiness

and

> so on. I do have some age spots here and there. My digestion is

> fantastic; even though my diet is horrible. My hair is thinner than

it

> once was, and mostly gray; but I have no baldness. I've been stoop

> shouldered since childhood [as a result of a subsistence diet].

I'm 5'

> 11 " tall and 180 lbs; I neither gain not lose weight although I

consume

> vastly more calories and fat than does my wife. Our vanity often

> prevents us from seeing ourselves as others do, so maybe I should

just

> list this symptom as a neutral.

>

>

> >> Some of these symptoms are similar to those of low thyroid.

> >

> >

>

> So you can see why I'm also suspicious of a hypothyroid diagnosis.

I

> just do not have the symptoms.

>

> Can anyone here look at this list and honestly say that my symptoms

> indicate either low adrenal or thyroid output? To me it appears

just

> the opposite. When I received the low thyroid [tsh] results and

> diagnosis my wife had a fit; she said no way was I hypothyroid, more

> likely I was hyperthyroid. But neither she nor I are health care

> professionals.

>

> Thanks for your suggestions; and for any feedback anyone can offer.

> Chuck has mentioned a couple of times that the pituitary is

sometimes

> implicated with high [or abnormal] thyroid test results and atypical

> symptoms. Another possibility is a brain tumor.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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well I disagree. you don't have his symptoms, a TSH of 5 and have no health

problems.

Gracia

> ,

> For whatever it's worth, I think you may not even belong on this list-

> -because I also don't think there's anything wrong with you either--

> in the way of thyroid or adrenal, I mean.;-) But do stay anyway!

> Gail

>

>

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Hi Gracia,

it seems to me that if TSH is not a reliable measure of HypoT - ie it

can be within normal range and one can be sick as a dog - is it not

possible that the reverse can also be true - ie one can be quite well

and the TSH is over the normal range?

Kerry

Re: Re: adrenals

well I disagree. you don't have his symptoms, a TSH of 5 and have no

health

problems.

Gracia

> ,

> For whatever it's worth, I think you may not even belong on this list-

> -because I also don't think there's anything wrong with you either--

> in the way of thyroid or adrenal, I mean.;-) But do stay anyway!

> Gail

>

>

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I am not sure! I have met peeps on the internet who said they felt fine

with sky high TSH. Once on meds they got more symptoms! What I look at is

symptoms, is the person taking meds (drugs for COPD, irregular heart beat,

insomnia) for these symptoms? b/c sooner or later the problems will get

worse>>>more expense>>>>more misery. My mother is an example of this, it's

a nightmare. Instead of matching a drug for every symptom, I would treat

the system to get back to health.

Gracia

> Hi Gracia,

> it seems to me that if TSH is not a reliable measure of HypoT - ie it

> can be within normal range and one can be sick as a dog - is it not

> possible that the reverse can also be true - ie one can be quite well

> and the TSH is over the normal range?

> Kerry

>

>

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In a message dated 8/24/05 10:54:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

res075oh@... writes:

Those who are hypo-t, what are your main symptoms?

Everything you don't have plus add to that what Bev listed minus the

insomnia and vomiting. Oddly no major weight gain just a few pounds which I'm

able to keep under control. It does get better when I'm at the right levels for

me and I can add exercise to my regimen.

Helena

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Those are on the right track, plus I suffered from extreme pain from my knees

down to my toes and could hardly walk very far at all, severe itchy head and

hair falling out, I have insomina (I can't sleep without meds. at all) that I'm

really not sure if that is thyroid or adrenal yet, rash on my arms and my

shoulders and chest, freezing at times, altered smell, food taste bad, charlie

horse, sleepy attacks in the afternoon but could sleep, and vomiting, I do have

other symptoms but I think they are adrenal.

take care

Bev

" L. on " <res075oh@...> wrote:

Well, I _do_ have some problems, and I don't know the cause. But I

don't have the brain fog, weight gain, constant tiredness, lack of

stamina, or bloating that seem to be the main complaints of those who

are hypo-t.

Those who are hypo-t, what are your main symptoms?

Thanks,

Message: 9

Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:29:50 -0000

From: " & Gail on " <harrison@...>

Subject: Re: adrenals

It could well be that does have symptoms that have not been

seen as hypoT. But I wonder sometimes if those of us who have had to

live with this for so many years, see it in everybody else-- because

of our own experience. I admit, I am paranoid about it. Everytime I

see someone on TV or in the grocery store for instance, with an

inordinately large neck and fleshy face, I always say to my

husband, " I'll bet he/she is hypoT, undiagnosed " . And maybe they are--

but maybe not. I am also paranoid about hypoT in dogs. Regardless of

history of any particular line, regardless of any symptoms at all,

I'm always surprised when I DON'T find hypoT. I have a dog who just

passed his third thyroid (complete profile) with flying colours.

That's three complete profiles at not quite five years of age. I know

he doesn't have it and he's highly unlikely to get it in the future.

But I still am paranoid.

OK, about the TSH specifically. I once got a bitch at age seven from

another breeder, and because I was about to breed from her for her

final litter, I took her for her thyroid check. Everything looked

really excellent, no AA's, and in fact her T4 was still in the top

1/3 of the ref range. But her TSH was slightly over the range--not by

much, but it was over. At seven years of age, she certainly showed no

signs of hypoT (nor did she ever show any signs up until she died at

13), and went on to have her final litter. Dr. Dodds (the person

I would trust the most for thyroid issues) read the report and wrote

on the bottom that my bitch was fine, and that the TSH

as " dischordant " . Or, as my own vet said, " The TSH is not the be-all

and end-all " .

So, my question is, if all other parts of a profile are well within

range, is it possible the TSH might be dischordant? If there is any

question, seem to me the thing to do (as we would do with our dogs)

is to do a therapuetic trial of medication, and if there is any

resolution of anything, you have your answer. Right?

Gail

In hypothyroidism , " Gracia " <circe@g...> wrote:

>>

>> well I disagree. you don't have his symptoms, a TSH of 5 and have

>

>

no health

>> problems.

>> Gracia

>>

>

>

>>> > ,

>>> > For whatever it's worth, I think you may not even belong on this

>>

>>

list-

>>> > -because I also don't think there's anything wrong with you

>>

>>

either--

>>> > in the way of thyroid or adrenal, I mean.;-) But do stay anyway!

>>> > Gail

>>

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Hi ,

What are your symptoms?

thanks

Bev

" L. on " <res075oh@...> wrote:

I've been on Synthroid for about 3 months and I've noticed absolutely no

change [except for a few days of atypical reactions apparently to same]

except in the TSH reduced test results. However, one thing I've noticed

is that my allergic rhinitus [hay fever] has become worse during the

past month or so.

I've been on 3 mg Melatonin for 3 nights and seem to be sleeping

better. I am under the impression that there are not so likely to be

interactions between Melatonin and many of the other hormones. Any

opinions? I want to go very slowly, especially with hormonal self

medication, since my reactions to medication is often atypical.

Thanks,

Message: 17 Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:42:01 -0400 From: " Gracia "

<circe@...> Subject: Re: Re: adrenals I am not sure! I have met

peeps on the internet who said they felt fine with sky high TSH. Once on

meds they got more symptoms! What I look at is symptoms, is the person

taking meds (drugs for COPD, irregular heart beat, insomnia) for these

symptoms? b/c sooner or later the problems will get worse>>>more

expense>>>>more misery. My mother is an example of this, it's a

nightmare. Instead of matching a drug for every symptom, I would treat

the system to get back to health. Gracia

>> Hi Gracia,

>> it seems to me that if TSH is not a reliable measure of HypoT - ie it

>> can be within normal range and one can be sick as a dog - is it not

>> possible that the reverse can also be true - ie one can be quite well

>> and the TSH is over the normal range?

>> Kerry

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> Here are some symptoms from this page:

>Hi, my name is marilyn K. Dorlac, I have been having trouble with

all of these symptoms. I am so mad because my dr. said this

medicine called avildar is no goo, because it is a plant

derivitive. He also won't help me fix my problem, thak you so much

for you info. that little bit is so helpful to me. Now I knw wat

to say to him when i see him in two months. he did put me back on

synthroid 50mg. I had been on synthroid for one whole year but no

results. I sure hope that he will go on and help me fix this

problem. My daughter is suffering formsweaty hands and fee. I thik

this is hereditary. her breast wont grow hardly and she thnks she

looks like a 12 year old. this has caused quite a problem for her.

I would like to know why dosn't her breast want to grow to a normal

size. she does look fine to me. but she thinks not to herself. Is

there a test that i can have my dr. send me out for? I sure do want

to get thinner again. I have been this way for quite some time

now. my daughter is just 21 and her body is very petite. she looks

like a little doll. I love her so muchit is like i have a tenager

all of my life. but its hard on her.

I do pray that if there is a dr. out there that is listning to my

story to please contact me and let me know if he or she can help me

with this problem.

sincerly,

mkd

http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm

>

> I don't really know anything about the page; I just did a search

> [Google] and found it. Probably others here have better sources.

>

>

>

> Fatigue and lethargy is one of the most common complaints amongst

adult

> patients. If you have symptoms such as tiredness, fearfulness,

> allergies, frequent influenza, arthritis, anxiety, depression,

reduced

> memory and difficulties in concentrating, insomnia, worn-out,

inability

> to loose weight after extensive efforts, you may be suffering from

> adrenal fatigue (technically known as hypoadrenia).

>

> Message: 3

> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:26:03 EDT

> From: SHELHUGH@A...

> Subject: Re: Digest Number 2121

>

> In a message dated 9/14/2005 6:18:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> hypothyroidism writes:

> One thing that can cause these problems from stress is an adrenal

> dysfunction. Have you discussed them with your doctor? Have you

have

> any adrenal tests? The adrenals and thyroid interact.

>

> What are some of the Adrenals symptoms? My doctor says there is no

need to

> check this..... she is and Endo

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[Guest guest]

Problem is that a lot of these symptoms are common with hypoT and doctors wont

prescribe adrenal supplements if tests are negative.

Puneet

" L. on " <res075oh@...> wrote:

Here are some symptoms from this page:

http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/adrenal_fatigue.cfm

I don't really know anything about the page; I just did a search

[Google] and found it. Probably others here have better sources.

Fatigue and lethargy is one of the most common complaints amongst adult

patients. If you have symptoms such as tiredness, fearfulness,

allergies, frequent influenza, arthritis, anxiety, depression, reduced

memory and difficulties in concentrating, insomnia, worn-out, inability

to loose weight after extensive efforts, you may be suffering from

adrenal fatigue (technically known as hypoadrenia).

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