Adrenals

[Guest guest]

You are also such an encouragement to me Bee. Thank you!

Love and Hugs,

Faith

[Guest guest]

>

> I have read the information on Adrenals and I have one further

> question. I have been reading about raw, freeze-dried, whole beef

> adrenal gland in tablet form. Is this ok to take? Do you know of a

good brand?

==>Yes, it is okay to take, but I do not know of a good brand. Maybe

someone else does. Faith, do thump your thymus every day as stated

in my article, and do dry skin brushing.

>

> I have put myself to bed since last Thursday. I am so fatigued,

> especially in the morning. At first I thought I just needed to

catch up from Christmas, but I think it is more than that. Only

having one Adrenal Gland, I know it must be very tired out.

==>Fatigue is also a healing symptom. When I first started on

nystatin after being on the diet for 6 months I slept at least 17

hours per day. This too shall pass.

Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> You are also such an encouragement to me Bee. Thank you!

>

> Love and Hugs,

==>I'm so glad Faith! You are a sweetheart to acknowledge me.

Love and Hugs back to you,

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi, I can not handle problems that come up in life to well any more, i

cry, give up and get real tired after something bad happens. I know

this is the fight or flight symptom which effects our adrenals.The ?

is , if i break down emotionaly easier now does that mean my candida

is getting worse through out my body? Hope i explained myself ok.

Thanks for all the support!

Bonnie

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Hi Bonnie,

I'm sorry to hear how stressed out you are, I can relate (I've got a looong list

of events out of my control this last winter that have really been trying)! And

I've found that when you are putting so much energy into trying to heal (like

with candida), it can really makeit difficult to weather any other storm that

comes along, you know?

Meditiation is a wonderful way to calm the body and ease the stress on adrenals.

It has been proven, again and again, in many studies over the years, to bring

the body out of fight or flight mode and regulate blood pressure, stimulate

immune response, aide digestive secretions (which stall when we are stressed out

all the time, not to mention with candida our digestion is already impaired),

etc. to name only a few boons.

It can be annoying at first to someone not used to it, but it *works* if you

stick with it! Have you tried it? There are a lot of wonderful books that can

get you started (Shaktie Gawain, I think it is, has some classics).

Be Well,

kimb'

[Guest guest]

Bonnie wrote:

>

> Hi, I can not handle problems that come up in life to well any more,

i cry, give up and get real tired after something bad happens. I know

> this is the fight or flight symptom which effects our adrenals.The ?

> is , if i break down emotionaly easier now does that mean my candida

> is getting worse through out my body? Hope i explained myself ok.

> Thanks for all the support!

==>Candida has been robbing your body of nutrients for so long it is no

wonder you are being affected emotionally and mentally. It doesn't

mean your candida is getting worse - I think there is an article in the

Natural Healing Folder that discusses emotions and how they can be more

affected when you are healing naturally. Natural healing unleases

emotions, along with toxins. So it is not a bad sign at all! Hang in

there Bonnie. You will get more good days and less bad days as time

goes on, but it does take time.

==>When you're feeling emotional try taking a walk and looking around

so you can get out of yourself a bit. Look at things close by and far

away, like the sky and the trees, etc. Or even sit outside and just

look around. You can even walk around your house and touch things or

pick up things noticing more about them.

==>Doing dry skin brushing is wonderful for the adrenals as well. You

can also switch off adrenaline by taking a few deep breaths slowly and

deeply in a row, and then stop for 5 minutes and do it again. Do this

a few times a day on your bad days.

I hope that helps,

Bee

[Guest guest]

I just got my lab results from my doctor and I feel like one thing after another

just keeps falling apart. I am currently taking 2.5-3 60 mg tablets of Armour

every day as well as a multi-vitamin.

My TSH is 0.02

My Free T4 and free T3 are in the normal to high range. I think that that is all

okay, however:

-my testosterone is 0.26, the range is 0.5-0.73. I guess this means my adrenals

are pretty fatigued seeing as I have many of the symptoms as well? They got this

from a blood test.

-my ferritin is 14.2 and the range is 11-307. While it isn't out of the normal

range I have heard it is supposed to be atleast 60 or something to be feeling

optimum.

My doctor says that she doesn't want to put me on steroids for the adrenals

" because she wants to keep my liver as virgin as possible " , which I'm cool with

so I'm going on monday to pick up a bunch of supplements, herbs, etc that she

wants me to try out for 4 weeks and then come back. If anyone has any advice,

comments, etc it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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You wrote:

>

> ... -my testosterone is 0.26, the range is 0.5-0.73. I guess this means my

> adrenals are pretty fatigued seeing as I have many of the symptoms as

> well? ...

The amount of testosterone produce by the adrenals is tiny compared to

the ovaries. Thus, this reading and your adrenal symptoms are not

necessarily connected.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

your doctor is a total idiot. is she also a virgin? LOL

low dose cortisol is completely safe, just replaces what your body no longer

makes.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

look at Hormone Solutions by Thierry Hertoghe MD

Gracia

I just got my lab results from my doctor and I feel like one thing after

another just keeps falling apart. I am currently taking 2.5-3 60 mg tablets of

Armour every day as well as a multi-vitamin.

My TSH is 0.02

My Free T4 and free T3 are in the normal to high range. I think that that is

all okay, however:

-my testosterone is 0.26, the range is 0.5-0.73. I guess this means my

adrenals are pretty fatigued seeing as I have many of the symptoms as well? They

got this from a blood test.

-my ferritin is 14.2 and the range is 11-307. While it isn't out of the normal

range I have heard it is supposed to be atleast 60 or something to be feeling

optimum.

My doctor says that she doesn't want to put me on steroids for the adrenals

" because she wants to keep my liver as virgin as possible " , which I'm cool with

so I'm going on monday to pick up a bunch of supplements, herbs, etc that she

wants me to try out for 4 weeks and then come back. If anyone has any advice,

comments, etc it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

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>

> If you thyroid test are normal but you have alot of symptoms of low

thyroid and possibly adrenal fatigue (high cortisol in the morning),

what are the best ways to " fix " this problem?

==>Most candida suffereers have low thyroid and adrenal fatigue. The

electrolyte drink with lemon and ocean sea salt is particularly

important for the adrenals, which need a good source of sodium and

chloride = salt, in addition to the minerals and the lemon helps

decongest the adrenals as well.

The diet plus all of the supplements together help your thyroid and

your adrenals, as well as other recommendations in my main candida

article, i.e. coffee enema (very important), dry skin brushing or

rebounding on a trampoline or jumping rope, and helping your body

detoxify. There is an article called " Thyroid and Adrenal

Malfunction " in our group's files, in the Treatment Folder:

/files/

==>Ocean sea salt contains over 84 minerals, of which one is iodine

which is needed by the thyroid. You also get iodine from other

sources such as butter, seafoods, etc.

> I am slowly easing into the diet, I use cocnut oil and butter, I

am starting the lemon water and sea salt, anything else?? I have

taken sea salt baths also. I have a low pulse rate and low blood

pressure. I wondered if I should take licorice??

==>Licorice contains too much sugar which will feed the candida. Low

pulse rate and blood pressure are also typical when you have candida

and the ocean sea salt is very important for both problems.

==>The reason candida sufferers have these problems is because

candida toxins cause all of the body's cell to go rigid (stiff) so

that interferes with the functioning of all organs in the body, and

even hormones are being produced okay they cannot get into stiff

cells in order to do their job. See the article " Candida Causes Cell

Membrane Defects " in the " Candida, All About folder " in the files.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Wasn't Tintera the guy who did the earliest research on adrenals??

>

> http://www.opinions3.com/hypoglycemia_association.htm

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>

> Hi,

>

> I have a quick question about Adrenals... I have noticed that taking

> Vitamin C causes me to be really thirsty and sweat a lot. At first I

> thought it was due to the brand so I switched to natural factors

brand and have noticed the same thing. I have been taking it for a few

> months now and so if it was a healing reaction i would have expected

> it to improve.

>

> Is it just my imagination or could it possibly be overstimulating my

> adrenals? I have only been taking 2-4mg a day

==>Hi Amber. Do you mean 2,000 - 4,000 mg vitamin C per day? Candida

sufferers usually have low adrenal function, so if vitamin C helped you

are better off.

When the adrenals are not functioning properly, the level of

aldosterone (hormone produced by adrenals) can drop. This causes some

people to suffer from increasing thirst and a sense of constant

dehydration.

Also adrenal fatigues causes a person to sweat more.

The reason the adrenals malfunction is because candida causes cell

membrane defects - see this:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cabout1.php

See this article on Adrenal Malfunction:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat1.php

When you feel thirsty try having some ocean sea salt (the large

crystals are best) with water. It helps the adrenals and hopefully

with help you not be so thirsty. Let me know if it helps.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Marjorie,

Bee's website has the adrenal information. As well as a whole bunch of other

articles. There is tons of information there and a search function (in the upper

right corner) so you can find what you're looking for fairly quickly. The

address is:

www.healingnaturallybybee.com

jackie

>

> Hi again: Where can I pull up information on the adrenal glands, etc? I have

looked under 'messages' and then 'files' to try find it, but it must be in there

somewhere ! My head is still messed up abit at times and I can't remember, a

passing phenomena. Thank you so much. Marjorie

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi again: Where can I pull up information on the adrenal glands, etc? I have

looked under 'messages' and then 'files' to try find it, but it must be in there

somewhere ! My head is still messed up abit at times and I can't remember, a

passing phenomena.

+++Hi Marjorie. The files and links on the group are outdated, and shouldn't be

used - only use my website: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/index.php

There is a Search function on the top right.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Sometimes drinking more water throughout the day can help; when my ME/CFS was at

its worst (all candida related of course as I realise now) I used to wake up

every morning with terrible feelings of anxiety and palpitations. It can be just

your kidneys signalling dehydration- and extra minerals can be helpful

(particularly potassium from soups veggies and veg juicing; and magnesium from

same, or take extra from a supplement- remember Magnesium helps your nervous

system to relax)... Candida makes us dehydrated anyway- are you getting 2 litres

or so? Over time it will get better on the diet... a long period of eating wrong

foods (mainly carbs and sugar) taxes the adrenals and makes us lose vital

minerals

Best

>

> I get palpatations now and then and i no for sure i have low blood pressure on

standing up, dr has done a blood test for this and it was fine , anyone any

advice

> Anne

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I get palpatations now and then and i no for sure i have low blood pressure on

standing up, dr has done a blood test for this and it was fine , anyone any

advice

+++Hi Anne. This program will help palpitations and low blood pressure, so that

is all you require. Ensure you are taking the recommended amounts of ocean sea

salt to help both conditions, which is part of my program.

Bee

[Guest guest]

MC28 wrote:

>

>

> Can anyone tell me about patleolithic acid and does it adversely affect

> thyroid treatment?

Never heard of it. What is it?

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Actually, I miss-spelled it.  It is " Pantelithic Acid " or in the precursor form

" Pantethine " .  Paleolithic is the term for the cavemen era...opps!

Pantethine is a precursor to vitamin B-5.  It is also referred to as " Coenzyme

A " .  Apparently it is a very effective way to reduce bad cholesterol and

triglicerides as well as support healthy adrenal function.  It is recommended

that a thyroid patient take 300-900mg daily to support adrenal health. 

Here is a link to a product page that actually contained some good information.

 http://www.wellnessresources.com/products/pantethine.php

I'm not recommending this particular product, but as i scoured the internet it

was the same information i was finding elsewhere in a more condensed format.

Anyway, pretty interesting.  I had never heard of it either until I began

reading a thyroid diet book.  Maybe it will help!

>

>

> Can anyone tell me about patleolithic acid and does it adversely affect

> thyroid treatment?

Never heard of it. What is it?

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I can't even find the word " patleolithic " ; do you mean " paleolithic " ?

Even when I check that it does not seem to be connected to " acid " .

..

..

>

> Posted by: " MC28 " cumocumocumo@...

> <mailto:cumocumocumo@...?Subject=%20Re%3AAdrenals>

> cumocumocumo <cumocumocumo>

>

>

> Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:05 am (PDT)

>

>

>

> Can anyone tell me about patleolithic acid and does it adversely

> affect thyroid treatment?

[Guest guest]

The link i provided in my last email does not expound on adrenal support like I

originally thought.  Check this link out for more specific information about

the role of Pantethine and adrenal support:

http://www.drlam.com/opinion/pantethine.asp

>

>

> Can anyone tell me about patleolithic acid and does it adversely affect

> thyroid treatment?

Never heard of it. What is it?

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Could be pantothenic acid.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 9:03 AM

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re:Adrenals

I can't even find the word " patleolithic " ; do you mean " paleolithic " ?

Even when I check that it does not seem to be connected to " acid " .

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>

> Posted by: " MC28 " cumocumocumo@...<mailto:cumocumocumo%40>

>

<mailto:cumocumocumo@...<mailto:cumocumocumo%40>?Subject=%20Re%3A\

Adrenals>

> cumocumocumo <cumocumocumo>

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> Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:05 am (PDT)

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> Can anyone tell me about patleolithic acid and does it adversely

> affect thyroid treatment?

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MC28 wrote:

>

>

> Actually, I miss-spelled it. It is " Pantelithic Acid " or in the

> precursor form " Pantethine " . Paleolithic is the term for the cavemen

> era...opps!

>

> Pantethine is a precursor to vitamin B-5....

B5 is pantothenic acid. Pantethine is a dimer of B5 (two B5s bridged by

cysteamine). Although it can turn into B5, it is not usually considered

a precursor, more of a storage form.

At any rate, most B5 supplements are in the form of calcium

pantothenate, a salt of pantothenic acid. The calcium cation binds

thyroxine, so such supplements should be taken at least 4 hours away

from thyroid meds.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Vitamin B5 is so readily available that it is unlikely you will benefit

from taking more. Here's a quick reference to sources:

..

..

> The best *sources* of this *vitamin* are eggs, yeast, poultry, meat,

> fish, liver, milk, sunflower seeds, soya beans and bean flour, peas,

> peanuts, peanut butter, legumes, broccoli, collard greens, bananas,

> oranges, mushrooms, whole grain products and wheat germ.

>

> One thing that should be noted about Pantothenic Acid is that it

> breaks down easily in heat. Care must be taken during food preparation.

>

> Since this *vitamin* is present in many different foods, it is rare

> that people do not get enough from their diets.

..

..

Some say that probably at least 90% of the money spent on vitamins and

supplements are a total waste, and provide little or no benefit. Others

totally deny that; but still others suggest it is a very conservative

estimate. The exception of course is that if you are actually deficient

of something that can be of great benefit to you.

Basically the sites that promote products like pantelithic acid are

designed to separate the gullible from their money; it's up to you

whether you want to play that game.

Luck,

..

..

>

>

> Posted by: " MC28 " cumocumocumo@...

> <mailto:cumocumocumo@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Adrenals>

> cumocumocumo <cumocumocumo>

>

>

> Wed Apr 7, 2010 9:10 am (PDT)

>

>

>

> The link i provided in my last email does not expound on adrenal

> support like I originally thought. Check this link out for more

> specific information about the role of Pantethine and adrenal support:

>

> http://www.drlam.com/opinion/pantethine.asp

> <http://www.drlam.com/opinion/pantethine.asp>

>

>

>

> From: MC28 <cumocumocumo@... <mailto:cumocumocumo%40>>

> Subject: Re: Adrenals

> hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:42 AM

>

>

>

> Actually, I miss-spelled it. It is " Pantelithic Acid " or in the

> precursor form " Pantethine " . Paleolithic is the term for the cavemen

> era...opps!

>

> Pantethine is a precursor to vitamin B-5. It is also referred to as

> " Coenzyme A " . Apparently it is a very effective way to reduce bad

> cholesterol and triglicerides as well as support healthy adrenal

> function. It is recommended that a thyroid patient take 300-900mg

> daily to support adrenal health.

>

> Here is a link to a product page that actually contained some good

> information.

>

> http://www.wellness resources. com/products/ pantethine. php

>

> I'm not recommending this particular product, but as i scoured the

> internet it was the same information i was finding elsewhere in a more

> condensed format.

>

> Anyway, pretty interesting. I had never heard of it either until I

> began reading a thyroid diet book. Maybe it will help!

[Guest guest]

> I agree with Marc. I am living proof. Dependant on hydrocortosone.  Loni

Although I would think that many people should be able to rebuild

their adrenal glands through appropriate supplementation/detox, and

then gradually be able to reduce the amount of cortisone they need

to take to get through the day.

Whether that would take months/years/decades depends on the person

and also what that person is doing to rebuild their adrenals.

Marc

[Guest guest]

It depends on the person. Sometimes the adrenals are not able to be revived. It

also depends on how much stress you are living under. It's not just a factor of

suppliments & time.

But you are correct; many people (most people) can rebuild adrenals. 

 

I will say that I have tried probably 7 times with failure to reduce & rebuild

them.

 

Loni

 

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: adrenals

Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 11:38 AM

 

> I agree with Marc. I am living proof. Dependant on hydrocortosone.  Loni

Although I would think that many people should be able to rebuild

their adrenal glands through appropriate supplementation/detox, and

then gradually be able to reduce the amount of cortisone they need

to take to get through the day.

Whether that would take months/years/decades depends on the person

and also what that person is doing to rebuild their adrenals.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

A couple of key points about re-vitalizing the adrenals.

One is from Dr. Bob Marshall, brilliant medical sleuth who has a

radio program and sells high quality products. He emphatically

states that in order to re-build adrenals, one absolutely must

get five straight hours of sleep a night, within your bedtime

sleeping span of time. That is, if you are in bed eight hours,

then five of those hours you must be sleeping, or AT LEAST

not getting up, or even lifting your head to look at the clock.

And you need to do that at least 5 out of 7 nights every week.

Also, rather imperative to retire by 10:00 pm too. Ugh, I know,

who wants to do that, but those little adrenals like it.

So, if you need to arise several times a night to urinate, best not

to take liquids after 4:00 pm or so, or whatever works for you.

He has a wonderful adrenal support product, which I don't buy

because it's too expensive for me. But I have been taking

Gaia's adrenal support formula for years now and f-i-n-a-l-l-y

my adrenals are spiffing up. Dont' get dizzy anymore from

standing up from reclining position (one sign of adrenal fatigue),

and have a quicker recovery time from really knocking myself

out (like multiple days off getting up much earlier than usual

for conferences). It has taken, and is taking, much much longer

than I had hoped and really have patience for.

I think a lot of the AF products, like the glandulars and such, can be

helpful, but also can just prop up the adrenals and not really refurbish

them.

Adrenals love nettles. Get the loose stuff and make an infusion, simmering

(not full on boiling) 20 minutes, steep 10, strain. Lots of minerals, and

good

for bones, too.

I wholeheartedly agree with Giles, too, about doing QiGong. It is probably

the easiest, cheapest, most efficacious thing that we can do to tonify our

body's energy system, build stamina, and increase resilience. I'm banking

on it curing me of ES (after I get these pesky amalgams outtta my mouth!).

Dr. (Mehmet) Oz even said so on Oprah a few years ago when she asked

when what he thought the one thing people could do to improve their health.

Loving those little adrenals,

Lily