Guest guest Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 I'm going to get myself some Rose quartz post haste. Having weak adrenals, I come alive at night and falling asleep is often difficult before the wee hours. Estelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 A, I would love to know which homeopathic remedies you take for adrenal support. I have access to a homeopath and can get anything. Do tell, please? Estelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Dr Oz said QiGong was one of the best things you can do? Loni From: Latifah T <zzzapit@...> Subject: re: Adrenals Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 9:58 PM Â Hi all, A couple of key points about re-vitalizing the adrenals. One is from Dr. Bob Marshall, brilliant medical sleuth who has a radio program and sells high quality products. He emphatically states that in order to re-build adrenals, one absolutely must get five straight hours of sleep a night, within your bedtime sleeping span of time. That is, if you are in bed eight hours, then five of those hours you must be sleeping, or AT LEAST not getting up, or even lifting your head to look at the clock. And you need to do that at least 5 out of 7 nights every week. Also, rather imperative to retire by 10:00 pm too. Ugh, I know, who wants to do that, but those little adrenals like it. So, if you need to arise several times a night to urinate, best not to take liquids after 4:00 pm or so, or whatever works for you. He has a wonderful adrenal support product, which I don't buy because it's too expensive for me. But I have been taking Gaia's adrenal support formula for years now and f-i-n-a-l-l-y my adrenals are spiffing up. Dont' get dizzy anymore from standing up from reclining position (one sign of adrenal fatigue), and have a quicker recovery time from really knocking myself out (like multiple days off getting up much earlier than usual for conferences). It has taken, and is taking, much much longer than I had hoped and really have patience for. I think a lot of the AF products, like the glandulars and such, can be helpful, but also can just prop up the adrenals and not really refurbish them. Adrenals love nettles. Get the loose stuff and make an infusion, simmering (not full on boiling) 20 minutes, steep 10, strain. Lots of minerals, and good for bones, too. I wholeheartedly agree with Giles, too, about doing QiGong. It is probably the easiest, cheapest, most efficacious thing that we can do to tonify our body's energy system, build stamina, and increase resilience. I'm banking on it curing me of ES (after I get these pesky amalgams outtta my mouth!). Dr. (Mehmet) Oz even said so on Oprah a few years ago when she asked when what he thought the one thing people could do to improve their health. Loving those little adrenals, Lily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 This is the link for thyroplus, which should only be prescrived by a practioner. The rational behind it being that by balancing the thyroid, you supposedly take the stess off of the adrenals, as the the adrenals, ovaries and thyroid act on a similar hormonal axis.  http://www.desbio.com/database.html?id=HC0020 & s=Thyroplus   I make no claims as to the veracity of this, only to say that It helped me.DYODD.  A.   From: e4health@... <e4health@...> Subject: Re: re: Adrenals Date: Saturday, 12 June, 2010, 6:26  A, I would love to know which homeopathic remedies you take for adrenal support. I have access to a homeopath and can get anything. Do tell, please? Estelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Ok Thanks Diane; I'll start looking. Loni From: Latifah T <zzzapit@...> Subject: re: Adrenals Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 12:58 AM Â Hi all, A couple of key points about re-vitalizing the adrenals. One is from Dr. Bob Marshall, brilliant medical sleuth who has a radio program and sells high quality products. He emphatically states that in order to re-build adrenals, one absolutely must get five straight hours of sleep a night, within your bedtime sleeping span of time. That is, if you are in bed eight hours, then five of those hours you must be sleeping, or AT LEAST not getting up, or even lifting your head to look at the clock. And you need to do that at least 5 out of 7 nights every week. Also, rather imperative to retire by 10:00 pm too. Ugh, I know, who wants to do that, but those little adrenals like it. So, if you need to arise several times a night to urinate, best not to take liquids after 4:00 pm or so, or whatever works for you. He has a wonderful adrenal support product, which I don't buy because it's too expensive for me. But I have been taking Gaia's adrenal support formula for years now and f-i-n-a-l-l-y my adrenals are spiffing up. Dont' get dizzy anymore from standing up from reclining position (one sign of adrenal fatigue), and have a quicker recovery time from really knocking myself out (like multiple days off getting up much earlier than usual for conferences). It has taken, and is taking, much much longer than I had hoped and really have patience for. I think a lot of the AF products, like the glandulars and such, can be helpful, but also can just prop up the adrenals and not really refurbish them. Adrenals love nettles. Get the loose stuff and make an infusion, simmering (not full on boiling) 20 minutes, steep 10, strain. Lots of minerals, and good for bones, too. I wholeheartedly agree with Giles, too, about doing QiGong. It is probably the easiest, cheapest, most efficacious thing that we can do to tonify our body's energy system, build stamina, and increase resilience. I'm banking on it curing me of ES (after I get these pesky amalgams outtta my mouth!). Dr. (Mehmet) Oz even said so on Oprah a few years ago when she asked when what he thought the one thing people could do to improve their health. Loving those little adrenals, Lily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Hi Debbie, Way to go on working to heal your body without leaning on meds. Are you eating the therapeutic dosages of coconut oil, 5.5 Tablespoons? Also, many vegetables are considered goitrogenic. They inhibit thyroid production. I've heard if you cook them the goitrogens are lowered. Some say by 1/3. I know I still get fatigued if I eat kale and broccoli even cooked very well. I've been off thyroid meds for two years. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Thanks ,. Yes I have been taking at least 6 Tbs. of coconut oil. I just wondered if that might be too much with the adrenal issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 > > I have been on Bee's diet for about 4 weeks now and I took myself off of my thyroid meds. I am starting to feel like my adrenals can't keep up. I just feel like I'm moving in slow motion. I thought the coconut oil would be helpful, but maybe it's too much for my adrenals right now. Any ideas? +++Hi Debbie, The reason you had low thyroid was because your adrenals were over stressed and aren't able to handle normal thyroid hormone output. Therefore your thyroid automatically lowers its production in order to protect your adrenals. There are many things on this program which help the adrenals, particularly 1.5 teaspoons per day of good ocean sea salt. However, all nutrients work together. Coconut oil is helpful but it take time and patience for your body to repair and rebuild itself, which is 1 month for every year. Also during that time your body will " retrace " all past symptoms, including adrenal fatigue, low thyroid function, etc. as this article explains: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php See this article about the adrenals too: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat1.php Of course your body will create " healing and detoxifying symptoms " as a natural process while it is healing itself, and good foods like coconut oil may appear to " cause " symptoms when it is actually helping the body heal itself - see Healing Foods, Herbs & Spices cause healing reactions: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal14.php In fact, all dis-ease processes are exactly the same as the healing and detoxifying processes that are created by the body itself in an effort to maintain its health. The only difference for people on this healthy program is they are now progressing towards health rather than becoming more and more unhealthy, or dis-eased, because they are giving their body what it needs to " be healthy " according to Nature's Laws on Health. The medical field labels each and every " sign " of poor health as separate dis-eases, illnesses, symptoms, etc. However all of them are simply " signs " the body is working hard at maintaining its health in spite of poor nutrition, toxins, etc., so all of those " signs " are actually normal body reactions. The best in health, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Thanks for the support Gail. It's tough, I know, but this diet will be our ticket to recuperation! After several years of doctor visits and thousands of dollars on alternative 'doctors' I finally realized that the body is not deficient in drugs or man-made 'junk' but simply FOOD, minerals and vitamins. The recovery process may take time but at least we know what to look forward to! You're spot on about cholesterol, vitamin C and salt Gail. Throw in some B vitamins and you have quite the cocktail. Godspeed! LukeC > > > > > > Hi Bee, > > > > > > It's Luke. Did you notice improved adrenal function since beginning your diet back in the 80's ? How long would you say it took for the diet to take its effect? > > > > > > I have lost significant adrenal function resulting in extremely low stamina and loss of short-term memory. I consider myself to be 'disabled' since I had to quit a good-paying job and school. Adrenals are life. Ask Hans Selye, he knew a thing or two about 'em. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Luke C, Can you tell a difference in the different fats you use - which ones seem to help more with easing the anxiety / uptight / jittery feelings? We ran out of butter and had only coconut oil in the house for two days. My husband is feeling jittery & uptight & hungry. Was the butter doing that much for him? -Sharon On 12/12/2010 4:33 PM, LukeC wrote: > > Thanks for the support Gail. It's tough, I know, but this diet will be > our ticket to recuperation! > > After several years of doctor visits and thousands of dollars on > alternative 'doctors' I finally realized that the body is not > deficient in drugs or man-made 'junk' but simply FOOD, minerals and > vitamins. The recovery process may take time but at least we know what > to look forward to! > > You're spot on about cholesterol, vitamin C and salt Gail. Throw in > some B vitamins and you have quite the cocktail. > > Godspeed! > > LukeC > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bee, > > > > > > > > It's Luke. Did you notice improved adrenal function since > beginning your diet back in the 80's ? How long would you say it took > for the diet to take its effect? > > > > > > > > I have lost significant adrenal function resulting in extremely > low stamina and loss of short-term memory. I consider myself to be > 'disabled' since I had to quit a good-paying job and school. Adrenals > are life. Ask Hans Selye, he knew a thing or two about 'em. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Sharon, Animal fats (especially saturated fats from red meat - ruminants) are antimicrobial. Some feel that coconut oil is perhaps more so but it's a moot point, you don't need coconut oil in your diet. Your system desires, needs... no - DEMANDS animal fat. See your butcher about getting fat trimmings from the fattier steaks! Continue the coconut oil Sharon, but do your best to get the animal fat ASAP. LukeC > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bee, > > > > > > > > > > It's Luke. Did you notice improved adrenal function since > > beginning your diet back in the 80's ? How long would you say it took > > for the diet to take its effect? > > > > > > > > > > I have lost significant adrenal function resulting in extremely > > low stamina and loss of short-term memory. I consider myself to be > > 'disabled' since I had to quit a good-paying job and school. Adrenals > > are life. Ask Hans Selye, he knew a thing or two about 'em. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 we recently got 1/4 of a grassfed beef from the butcher. The ground beef has a nice amount of fat in it. I'll be sure to save that especially for my husband. On 12/12/2010 6:22 PM, LukeC wrote: > > Sharon, > > Animal fats (especially saturated fats from red meat - ruminants) are > antimicrobial. Some feel that coconut oil is perhaps more so but it's > a moot point, you don't need coconut oil in your diet. Your system > desires, needs... no - DEMANDS animal fat. > > See your butcher about getting fat trimmings from the fattier steaks! > Continue the coconut oil Sharon, but do your best to get the animal > fat ASAP. > > LukeC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bee, > > > > > > > > > > > > It's Luke. Did you notice improved adrenal function since > > > beginning your diet back in the 80's ? How long would you say it took > > > for the diet to take its effect? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have lost significant adrenal function resulting in extremely > > > low stamina and loss of short-term memory. I consider myself to be > > > 'disabled' since I had to quit a good-paying job and school. Adrenals > > > are life. Ask Hans Selye, he knew a thing or two about 'em. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Ok! That's his best shot at recovering. He's blessed to have such a wonderful wife! LukeC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's Luke. Did you notice improved adrenal function since > > > > beginning your diet back in the 80's ? How long would you say it took > > > > for the diet to take its effect? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have lost significant adrenal function resulting in extremely > > > > low stamina and loss of short-term memory. I consider myself to be > > > > 'disabled' since I had to quit a good-paying job and school. Adrenals > > > > are life. Ask Hans Selye, he knew a thing or two about 'em. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 > > Luke C, Can you tell a difference in the different fats you use - which > ones seem to help more with easing the anxiety / uptight / jittery > feelings? We ran out of butter and had only coconut oil in the house > for two days. My husband is feeling jittery & uptight & hungry. Was the > butter doing that much for him? +++Hi Sharon, You will know if butter was doing a lot for him if he doesn't get those feelings once he has butter again. But keep in mind that he may not have felt that way because he didn't have butter, since there can be other reasons for such feelings, including detoxify toxins, drugs, etc. or because his body is " retracing " those feelings from the past. So not having butter could have been a coincidence. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 CaN anyone tell me if ldn is containdicated in patients with addisons or extreme adrenal fatigue/ failure. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I believe that is called: Vitiligo. Skin areas look " bleached " - absence of color?? This can be little circles or I've seen actual patches of skin look like bleached. This is caused by pituitary/ pineal glands. Curious, where are they located and how big? Lizzie From: calicocat477@... Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:44:35 -0700 Subject: Re: Adrenals Would hyper-pigmentation also be small areas look like circles that are lighter? With me they're whitish. Just started last year. Kathy From: thode <lizt777@...> Subject: Adrenals Hello everyone and hey Diane? On that article I just posted on the 18 symptoms of adrenal fatigue, did you happen to catch the one called: Hyperpigmentation and the brownish stains? It occurred to me that there might be a connection between your description of rusty stains on hands and feet, when you tried the Iodine. This was the first time I'd ever seen the term used: Hyperpigmentation. Up to this time, I had only heard the term: Vitiligo used, which is the opposite, an absence of pigmentation, like little white spots on the skin have been bleached white. This, by the way is pituatary or pineal gland malfunction. I have seen this on someone, on their back, small little circles, not much bigger then large freckle. This is what I love about this support group...a bunch of info gets put up on a big chalk board, and we brainstorm....ya never know what treasure trove of insight will come forward. Lizzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Hi, Lizzie, You wrote: " Hey Diane: Did you see the site mention of Hyperpigmentation and the brownish stains? It occurred to me that there might be a connection between your description of rusty stains on hands and feet, when you tried the Iodine. " Me: Yes, I did, but I know what hyperpigmentation looks like--my Mom has it. No, it is different. And the rusty hands and feet are washable--I mean, it soaks off in time. (Actually, I have to be careful not to get it on bedding and fabrics when I get it.) It is what happens when you take too much iodine. It happens to normal people who take too much iodine, too; I just don't have to take nearly as much to get it. Actual hyperpigmentation is permanent. I also have the vitiligo--small white spots, as you say. I've had them on my arms and legs since I was a child (they have not increased in number since then). While we are talking about Diane's spots, I also get age spots on my left arm--from free radical damage, but those come and go away quickly if I take anti-oxidants regularly. lol ] Thanks for the info, Lizzie, Diane From: thode <lizt777@...> Subject: Adrenals esens Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2011, 1:21 PM  Hello everyone and hey Diane? On that article I just posted on the 18 symptoms of adrenal fatigue, did you happen to catch the one called: Hyperpigmentation and the brownish stains? It occurred to me that there might be a connection between your description of rusty stains on hands and feet, when you tried the Iodine. This was the first time I'd ever seen the term used: Hyperpigmentation. Up to this time, I had only heard the term: Vitiligo used, which is the opposite, an absence of pigmentation, like little white spots on the skin have been bleached white. This, by the way is pituatary or pineal gland malfunction. I have seen this on someone, on their back, small little circles, not much bigger then large freckle. This is what I love about this support group...a bunch of info gets put up on a big chalk board, and we brainstorm....ya never know what treasure trove of insight will come forward. Lizzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Hi, Kathy, You write: " Would hyper-pigmentation also be small areas look like circles that are lighter? With me they're whitish. Just started last year. " Me: No, those are vitiligo, like I have. Some of mine are as large as a forth inch in diameter (they have stretched in size as I have grown).  Those are likely from pituitary or pineal gland malfunction, as Lizzie said. But I don't think they ever go away once you have them. You mention problems with melatonin and sleeping. It is likely your pineal gland is being affected negatively by something. Diane From: KathyB <calicocat477@...> Subject: Re: Adrenals Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2011, 1:44 PM  Would hyper-pigmentation also be small areas look like circles that are lighter? With me they're whitish. Just started last year. Kathy From: thode <lizt777@...> Subject: Adrenals  Hello everyone and hey Diane? On that article I just posted on the 18 symptoms of adrenal fatigue, did you happen to catch the one called: Hyperpigmentation and the brownish stains? It occurred to me that there might be a connection between your description of rusty stains on hands and feet, when you tried the Iodine. This was the first time I'd ever seen the term used: Hyperpigmentation. Up to this time, I had only heard the term: Vitiligo used, which is the opposite, an absence of pigmentation, like little white spots on the skin have been bleached white. This, by the way is pituatary or pineal gland malfunction. I have seen this on someone, on their back, small little circles, not much bigger then large freckle. This is what I love about this support group...a bunch of info gets put up on a big chalk board, and we brainstorm....ya never know what treasure trove of insight will come forward. Lizzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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