Guest guest Posted December 1, 1999 Report Share Posted December 1, 1999 Barbara I think I put cancer and AIDS in the same sentence when talking about glutathione. I went and checked out the site you recommended. And I must say in allot of ways it didn't surprise me. I'm going back, I bookmarked it, because I found it very interesting. But I still hadn't found what they think AIDS and Hiv is if all the rest is lies. Bottom line, these are very immune compromized individuals. Something is wrecking havoc with their cells, and what ever it be the immune system through glutathione can only keep the body healthy for so long, cause it is known that glutathione needs nurishment. Have you checked out the whole site. I was trying to get a book through my local library by Hooper " The River A Jouney To The Source " he also has an interesting theroy on where the AIDS virus comes from. And has supposed documentation to back what he says. I read Dr. Horowitz'a book Emerging Viruses, and he certaninly had documentation to back his claims about where he believes the virus evolved from. So I definitly am looking forward to reading more. I would like to hear what you have to say, but I'm not sure to many others do, so e-mail me off of here, I'd love to hear what you think. Thanks Debbie barbara feldman <blea-@...> wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=4100 > AIDS was mentioned in a recent email at the same time as cancer. For > information on a whole other vantagepoint not allowed in the mainstream > media, see a website for starters: > www.virusmyth.com -- it will be a shock to anyone who hasn't been > exposed to this yet --- this information when digested a bit -- will > reduce fear, paranoia, shed more light on the medical/pharmaceutical > industry etc., . . . Blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1999 Report Share Posted December 2, 1999 Dear Barbara, It is no secret AIDS and cancer respond to similar treatments. Go ahead and " shock " , us here at cancergroups, Barbara. Do we look like a naiive group to you? Love, drpeppe@... Re: " AIDS " > Barbara > I think I put cancer and AIDS in the same sentence when talking about > glutathione. I went and checked out the site you recommended. And I > must say in allot of ways it didn't surprise me. I'm going back, I > bookmarked it, because I found it very interesting. But I still hadn't > found what they think AIDS and Hiv is if all the rest is lies. Bottom > line, these are very immune compromized individuals. Something is > wrecking havoc with their cells, and what ever it be the immune system > through glutathione can only keep the body healthy for so long, cause > it is known that glutathione needs nurishment. Have you checked out the > whole site. I was trying to get a book through my local library by > Hooper " The River A Jouney To The Source " he also has an > interesting theroy on where the AIDS virus comes from. And has supposed > documentation to back what he says. I read Dr. Horowitz'a book Emerging > Viruses, and he certaninly had documentation to back his claims about > where he believes the virus evolved from. So I definitly am looking > forward to reading more. I would like to hear what you have to say, but > I'm not sure to many others do, so e-mail me off of here, I'd love to > hear what you think. > Thanks > Debbie > > > > barbara feldman <blea-@...> wrote: > original article:cures for cancer/?start=4100 > > AIDS was mentioned in a recent email at the same time as cancer. For > > information on a whole other vantagepoint not allowed in the > mainstream > > media, see a website for starters: > > www.virusmyth.com -- it will be a shock to anyone who hasn't been > > exposed to this yet --- this information when digested a bit -- will > > reduce fear, paranoia, shed more light on the medical/pharmaceutical > > industry etc., . . . Blessings > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > -- cal?listname=cures for cancer & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1999 Report Share Posted December 2, 1999 The real culprit is not a virus, but either a fungus or bacteria (I've forgotten which)--read Dr. Horowitz's book " Healing codes for the biological apocalypse " On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Barbara Feldman wrote: > AIDS was mentioned in a recent email at the same time as cancer. For > information on a whole other vantagepoint not allowed in the mainstream > media, see a website for starters: > www.virusmyth.com -- it will be a shock to anyone who hasn't been > exposed to this yet --- this information when digested a bit -- will > reduce fear, paranoia, shed more light on the medical/pharmaceutical > industry etc., . . . Blessings > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1999 Report Share Posted December 2, 1999 I recall reading on the Internet that a treatment for a venereal disease also cured HIV...forgotten which disease it was...was it posted here? On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Joe Peppe wrote: > Dear Barbara, > It is no secret AIDS and cancer respond to similar treatments. Go ahead and > " shock " , us here at cancergroups, Barbara. Do we look like a naiive group to > you? Love, drpeppe@... > > > Re: " AIDS " > > > > Barbara > > I think I put cancer and AIDS in the same sentence when talking about > > glutathione. I went and checked out the site you recommended. And I > > must say in allot of ways it didn't surprise me. I'm going back, I > > bookmarked it, because I found it very interesting. But I still hadn't > > found what they think AIDS and Hiv is if all the rest is lies. Bottom > > line, these are very immune compromized individuals. Something is > > wrecking havoc with their cells, and what ever it be the immune system > > through glutathione can only keep the body healthy for so long, cause > > it is known that glutathione needs nurishment. Have you checked out the > > whole site. I was trying to get a book through my local library by > > Hooper " The River A Jouney To The Source " he also has an > > interesting theroy on where the AIDS virus comes from. And has supposed > > documentation to back what he says. I read Dr. Horowitz'a book Emerging > > Viruses, and he certaninly had documentation to back his claims about > > where he believes the virus evolved from. So I definitly am looking > > forward to reading more. I would like to hear what you have to say, but > > I'm not sure to many others do, so e-mail me off of here, I'd love to > > hear what you think. > > Thanks > > Debbie > > > > > > > > barbara feldman <blea-@...> wrote: > > original article:cures for cancer/?start=4100 > > > AIDS was mentioned in a recent email at the same time as cancer. For > > > information on a whole other vantagepoint not allowed in the > > mainstream > > > media, see a website for starters: > > > www.virusmyth.com -- it will be a shock to anyone who hasn't been > > > exposed to this yet --- this information when digested a bit -- will > > > reduce fear, paranoia, shed more light on the medical/pharmaceutical > > > industry etc., . . . Blessings > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > > -- cal?listname=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Create a poll/survey for your group! > -- vote?listname=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1999 Report Share Posted December 2, 1999 On the contrary, I think many of us would like to hear what Barbara and others concerned might have to say about AIDS and its relation -- or lack of relation to HIV. It's got to be a hell of a lot more interesting than the MLM arguments, jsr, and a lot of saccharin religious blather. Rosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 1999 Report Share Posted December 2, 1999 According to Royal Rife, bacteria=virus. So, does it really matter? NOPE. Always be well, At 10:44 AM 12/2/99 -0800, you wrote: > >The real culprit is not a virus, but either a fungus or bacteria (I've >forgotten which)--read Dr. Horowitz's book " Healing codes for the >biological apocalypse " > > >On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Barbara Feldman wrote: > >> AIDS was mentioned in a recent email at the same time as cancer. For >> information on a whole other vantagepoint not allowed in the mainstream >> media, see a website for starters: >> www.virusmyth.com -- it will be a shock to anyone who hasn't been >> exposed to this yet --- this information when digested a bit -- will >> reduce fear, paranoia, shed more light on the medical/pharmaceutical >> industry etc., . . . Blessings >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -- Check out your group's private Chat room >> -- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 >> >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Wow the crowds with your FREE Shimmer Ring! The coolest >accessory of the year is FREE shipping too! >http://clickhere./click/1820 > >-- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault >-- docvault/cures for cancer/?m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Dear Cliff, How do you have a surefire method of stopping aids? Clearly, we don't " all have the cure for aids " as you infer. I have no idea what you mean by that statement? Please clarify. - G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 I was being a little facetious. The answer is of course, don't do anything outside of marriage that would bring it on, and be sure your husband or wife didn't either. A couple of years ago I read in The National Geographic about how terrible the scourge is in Africa and the large percentage of the population that was expected to die. The reason was that in marriages in a lot of those societies each partner had " many friends " . I read recently of the large number of orphans in parts of Africa from this cause. This is not being moralistic, just practical. Of course, those infected with needles and accidental infections in the medical industry aren't this way, but if folks had stayed with one partner it never would have developed in the first place. I am sure that God did not send this scourge, but I believe He knew our actions would cause it to happen. Once infected, I know of no cure. I would certainly never want to take a vaccine for it. Cliff Re: Fw: AIDs >Dear Cliff, > >How do you have a surefire method of stopping aids? Clearly, we don't " >all have the cure for aids " as you infer. I have no idea what you mean by >that statement? Please clarify. - G.M. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >1.6 Million Digital Images! >Download one Today from Corbis.com >1/3356/7/_/378/_/955662259/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Cliff, Your assumptions on reasons for " AIDS " spread in Africa assumes it is spread through sexual intercourse. It really isn't. Almost all the partners who come down with AIDS either had a history of drug abuse EITHER street drugs or prescription drugs sometimes both. AIDS in africa is frequently confused with symtoms of starvation which is rampan or poisoning from dirty water. The weakening, nervousness and diarrhea are similar. Due to the prevalence of drug company sponsored AIDS clinics, which are willing to care for and treat anyone who has AIDS but NOT anyone suffering from starvation and dirty water poisoning, patients have an incentive to consent to their diagnosis of AIDS. The clinic has an incentive to cooperate since they get another live body willing to take AZT until they die and have to be replaced by someone else. The patients are not even tested for HIV because the test, inaccurate though it is, is too expensive to give to each poor patient. Arnold Gore Consumers Health freedom Coalition. Re: Fw: AIDs > > > >Dear Cliff, > > > >How do you have a surefire method of stopping aids? Clearly, we don't " > >all have the cure for aids " as you infer. I have no idea what you mean by > >that statement? Please clarify. - G.M. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >1.6 Million Digital Images! > >Download one Today from Corbis.com > >1/3356/7/_/378/_/955662259/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links > there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or > by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 25% Off All Prints! > Buy one today at Corbis.com > 1/3357/7/_/378/_/955676338/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2000 Report Share Posted April 14, 2000 TAKE ME OFF YOUR MAILING LIST NOW! ! ! ! ! P L E A S E ! ! Re: Fw: AIDs Cliff, Your assumptions on reasons for " AIDS " spread in Africa assumes it is spread through sexual intercourse. It really isn't. Almost all the partners who come down with AIDS either had a history of drug abuse EITHER street drugs or prescription drugs sometimes both. AIDS in africa is frequently confused with symtoms of starvation which is rampan or poisoning from dirty water. The weakening, nervousness and diarrhea are similar. Due to the prevalence of drug company sponsored AIDS clinics, which are willing to care for and treat anyone who has AIDS but NOT anyone suffering from starvation and dirty water poisoning, patients have an incentive to consent to their diagnosis of AIDS. The clinic has an incentive to cooperate since they get another live body willing to take AZT until they die and have to be replaced by someone else. The patients are not even tested for HIV because the test, inaccurate though it is, is too expensive to give to each poor patient. Arnold Gore Consumers Health freedom Coalition. Re: Fw: AIDs > > > >Dear Cliff, > > > >How do you have a surefire method of stopping aids? Clearly, we don't " > >all have the cure for aids " as you infer. I have no idea what you mean by > >that statement? Please clarify. - G.M. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >1.6 Million Digital Images! > >Download one Today from Corbis.com > >1/3356/7/_/378/_/955662259/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links > there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or > by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 25% Off All Prints! > Buy one today at Corbis.com > 1/3357/7/_/378/_/955676338/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1.6 Million Digital Images! Download one Today from Corbis.com 1/3356/7/_/378/_/955681347/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 > a recent resurgence of infection...i wonder why...? What has >recently changed...anyone know? A new test vaccine is coming ... Volunteers anywhere ??? Also there is the huge market for AIDS products in AFRICA, and the propaganda is churning in that direction too. If these guys were to be believed (that AIDS is the killer that they make it out to be), Haiti [country with most HIV+] should have had deserted streets today! > kind of interesting...they are saying on the news that aids is haveing > a recent resurgence of infection...i wonder why...? What has recently > changed...anyone know? > christina...wondering in canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Amen, Lashanna. Certainly people are ill but why are they ill. I'm not a fan of Boyd either. Sheri At 12:52 AM 08/30/2001 +0000, you wrote: > >I like this article on AIDS. I think AIDS is not real. It is not a created >virus. It is a figment of our imagination. The deaths are being caused by >other factors. It is kind of like when they say kids die from the > " complications of chicken pox " . Which basically means the disease did not >kill them, something else did. I believe it is the same with AIDS. Here is >the link. > >http://davidicke.com/icke/index1a.html > > >>From: " Phyllis " <georgic@...> >>Reply-Vaccinations >><Lucid107@...>, " Kathleen E. " <georgeke+@...> >>CC: <i-v-y >, <Vaccinations >, " Juls " >><buttercup@...> >>Subject: " THE INVENTION OF AIDS " by Boyd E. Graves, J.D. >>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:31:58 -0700 >> >> >> THE INVENTION OF AIDS >> > > by Boyd E. Graves, J.D. >> > > http://www.boydgraves.com/class/invention.html >> > > >> > > Do people with HIV/AIDS owe royalties to the patent holder of the AIDS >> > virus? In April 1984, Dr. Gallo filed a United States patent >> > application for his invention, the HIV/AIDS Virus. Normally when a >>patent >>is >> > filed and approved, as Dr. Gallo's was, anyone who uses the product or >> > invention owes a royalty payment to the inventor. Thus, holding the >> > intellectual property laws to their fullest interpretations, one must >>only >> > wonder why Dr. Gallo has yet to file a lawsuit seeking to recover >>damages >> > from the usage of his invention? >> > > >> > > As odd as this scenario may sound, it bears need for additional >>scrutiny. >> > The scientific evidence is complete and compelling, the AIDS Virus is a >> > designer bi-product of the U.S. Special Virus program. The Special Virus >> > program was a federal virus development program that persisted in the >>United >> > States from 1962 until 1978. The U.S. Special Virus was then added as >> > 'compliment' to vaccine inoculations in Africa and Manhattan. Shortly >> > thereafter the world was overwhelmed with mass infections of a human >> > retrovirus that differed from any known human disease, it was highly >> > contagious and more importantly, it could kill. >> > > >> > > A review of the Special Virus Flow Chart ( " research logic " ) reveals >>the >> > United States was seeking a 'virus particle' that would negatively >>impact >> > the defense mechanisms of the immune system. The program sought to >>modify >> > the genome of the virus particle in which to splice in an animal >> " wasting >> > disease " called " Visna " . According to the Proceedings of the United >>States >> > of America, AIDS is an evolutionary, laboratory development of the >>peculiar >> > Visna Virus, first detected in Icelandic sheep. >> > > >> > > Recently, American and world scientists confirm with 100% certainty >>the >> > laboratory genesis of AIDS. This fact is further underscored when one >> > reviews the 'multiply-spliced' nature of the HIV 'tat' gene and Dr. >>Gallo's >> > 1971 Special Virus paper, " Reverse Transcriptase of Type-C virus >>Particles >> > of Human Origin " . >> > > >> > > Dr. Gallo's 1971 Special Virus paper is identical to his 1984 >>announcement >> > of AIDS. Upon further review the record reveals that he filed his patent >>on >> > AIDS, before he made the announcement with Secretary Heckler. Earlier >>this >> > year, Dr. Gallo conceded his role as a 'Project Officer' for the federal >> > virus development program, the Special Virus. >> > > >> > > The Flow Chart of the program and the 15 progress reports are >>irrefutable >> > evidence of the United States' secret plan to cull world populations via >>the >> > unleashing of a stealth biological microorganism that would 'waste' >> > humanity. In light of this true genesis of the world's most divesting >> > biological scourge, it is the United States that owes 'royal' payments >>to >> > the innocent victims. Each and every victim of AIDS is deserving of a >>formal >> > apology and a sense of economic closure for an invention of death and >> > despair, perpetrated by the United States. >> > > >> > > The eyes of the world are upon the General Accounting Office's Health >>Care >> > Team, under the direction of J. Scanlon. Between 1964 and 1978, >>the >> > secret federal virus program spent $550 million dollars of taxpayer >>money >>to >> > invent AIDS. It is now necessary to spend whatever it takes to dismantle >>an >> > invention that has led to the greatest crime against humanity in the >>history >> > of the world. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ~~~Additional Resources~~~ >> > > >> > > VIEW Web Archives: http://www.boydgraves.com >> > > >> > > DOWNLOAD US SVCP Flow Chart: http://www.boydgraves.com/flowchart >> > > >> > > SIGN Review Petition: http://www.boydgraves.com/petition >> > > >> > > DONATE On-line: http://www.boydgraves.com/donate >> > > >> > > CONTACT Us: http://www.boydgraves.com/contact >> > > >> > > WRITE to US Congress: http://www.congress.org >> > > >> > > RESEARCH Archives: : http://www.boydgraves.com/order/order.html >> > > >> > > FORWARD to Friends: mailto:?subject=The Invention of AIDS by Boyd E. >> > Graves, J.D. & Body= http://www.boydgraves.com/class/invention.html >> > > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > > >> > > " We must let nature determine the finish line, not man. >> > > We are greater than any federal virus program, we are the human race. " >> > > >> > > Dr. Boyd E. Graves, Lead Plaintiff for Global AIDS Apology >> > > U.S. Supreme Court Case No. 00-9587 >> > >> > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Yes use those and do the ozonated water and collodial silver. THen on top of that use the techniques of Dr West of the academy of lympholgy to get the lymph moving at a high rate. breathing , bouncing on a mini trampoline and stroking the limbs to get the lymph flowing. Hi Group, What do you recommend useing to someone who is HIV I was thinking Beck Electrifier and magnetic pulser, what do you suggests? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 Yes but add ozone therapy as well. Regards Noel Prof. Noel P O Box 137 Parkville VIC 3052 Australia Mobile 0412 994 001 International 61 412 994 001 Email noelc@... Web: http://www.smile.org.au _________________________________________________________________ Attention: The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient then please do not distribute, copy or use this information. Please notify us immediately by return email and then delete the message from your computer. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. __________________________________________________________________ Sapere Aude: Dare to be wise. Aids Hi Group, What do you recommend useing to someone who is HIV I was thinking Beck Electrifier and magnetic pulser, what do you suggests? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 > Hi Group, > What do you recommend useing to someone who is HIV > I was thinking Beck Electrifier and magnetic pulser, what do you > suggests? i just started blood electrification, for hiv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2002 Report Share Posted August 29, 2002 I have heard of good results BEing for HIV. Possibly the dc current of the Godzilla would be more effective. Also you might try vinegar; In a message dated 04/Jul/02 6:16:39 PM GMT Daylight Time, daddybob52954@... writes: << Subj: Re: Vinegar & BE-ing- to " gdraft " Date: 04/Jul/02 6:16:39 PM GMT Daylight Time From: daddybob52954@... (daddybob52954) Reply-to: <A HREF= " mailto: " > </A> > > Two questions from a newbie. I am interested in the Bragg's Vinegar & Raw Honey drink, what is it and what is it's purpose? Bob: the recipe is on the bottle, but they only refer to it as a " pick-me-up " and make no other claims for it. I had read often about the benefits of organic vinegars " with the mother " on many of these forums, but had not gone to the trouble of ordering any over the internet. My local grocery starting stocking it, and I bought a bottle with a shrug of the shoulders and thought " let's see what happens " . I had no expectations at all and didn't even know about the drink recipe until I brought the bottle home. I bought the stuff to put it on salads. I can't tell you the drink's purpose, but I can sure tell you what it's done for me. 1. appetite suppressed and about 4-5 pounds lost. 2. final elimination of headaches. 3. Near complete annihilation of any and all body odor and remaining skin problems (jock itch) along with the use of a tiny amount of zinc oxide. It has been in the low nineties and very humid here for the past few days. I work outside, and I finally got brave enough to try this: For 2 days now I have not sprayed or splashed on any H2O2 or CS, and have not used any deodorant. Nothing but a tiny dab of zinc oxide under each arm. No odor, nothing, nada, zip! My socks smell like they came out of the drawer at the end of the day. My shoes smell like shoes, not feet. This is all amazing to me. I had already made large strides against these problems with H2O2 & CS, but nothing like this. >What is BE-ing? Bg has already referred you to the glossary here. BE-ing is Blood Electrification, which is our main topic here. I've done it regularly & intensely now for over 9 months. It has changed my life. I'm convinced that the benefits from the vinegar are heightened and increased by my BE-ing. Gotta Go, Daddybob >>Cider Vinegar joins the war against HIV and other lipid-envelope viruses A local PWA credits vinegar (monotherapy) with reducing his viral load to non-detectable levels Cider Vinegar - hopes ride high for a low-cost treatment breakthrough for HIV/AIDS. April 10, 2000 Mark Konlee We may be on the verge of an effective treatment for HIV/AIDS that will cost about $5.00 a month. This could be very good news for 95% of the world's population that cannot afford the use of pharmaceutical drugs for treating HIV infection. It is estimated that 40 million people worldwide are now infected with the HIV virus. Promising low-cost treatments for AIDS have been languishing for lack of attention and funding for several years. The big question is who will fund controlled studies of vinegar and other promising treatments for HIV [like bee propolis and phytic acid (IP6)] when there is little or no profit to be made from marketing these items? Only the National Institute of Health is in a position to fund and conduct such studies using taxpayer's money. It is time for the NIH and major AIDS research organizations across the nation to stop being " politically correct " and to be more imaginative and daring in the search for practical low-cost answers to this epidemic. Once in a " blue moon " Reducing HIV viral loads to non-detectable levels is a common place event with pharmaceutical drug cocktails. It is a rare event when someone tries an alternative over-the-counter product and obtains the same result - a non-detectable viral load. This once in a " blue moon " event occurred here in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on February 8, 2000. A Call for Help Around January 31st, I received a phone call from N., who had moved out of West Allis about 18 months ago and was living on Milwaukee's north side. While had been diagnosed HIV+ several years ago, he had never progressed to full blown AIDS, but had many gastrointestinal problems. Late in January he told me: " I can't keep any food down. I have constant stomach cramps. " I asked if he was taking any drugs for HIV and he said: " how can I, I would just vomit them up. " I asked him if his physician had checked for an intestinal infection. He said they had and that he had been treated for a salmonella infection with antibiotics. He told me the doctor stated they could no longer find any trace of the salmonella. Then I said: " there must be some other undiagnosed infection in the intestines. " I asked him: " Has your doctor prescribed any treatment? " : " Nothing other than pain killers. I still cannot keep any food down. " At this point I suggested he try apple cider vinegar. I suggested he use 2 or 3 teaspoons of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water 3 or 4 times daily. This was on Jan 31, 2000. I told him that vinegar might kill off whatever was bothering him or it might not work at all. I added: " I could suggest several other things, but why not start with the vinegar and see if it helps. " Later that evening, went to a local grocery store and bought a quart of vinegar, choosing the first bottle of vinegar in his sights - a quart of white vinegar. said: " As I walked out (of the store), I opened the bottle and slammed down a mouthful. " I said: " Full strength? " : " Yes, I could feel the vinegar as it traveled through my intestines. " The next day, would add about 2 tablespoons of vinegar to a glass and add some water and slam it down. He did this 3 or 4 times a day. A few days after starting on the vinegar, he called and said that his stomach was 80% improved. At the time he called, around Feb. 2nd or 3rd, he did not tell me how much he was actually using. The details described here were not known to me until I had an extensive conversation with him around March 15th. About February 15th, he had called me and said his viral load was non-detectable and that his doctor could not figure out what was happening. Previously he had told me that he was on a drug cocktail last year and I assumed at the time that the drug cocktail was what had brought his viral load down to non-detectable levels. Positive Health News is published twice annually (Spring and Fall) by Keep Hope Alive, Ltd., an IRS-approved non-profit organization. Keep Hope Alive Ltd., PO Box 27041, West Allis, WI 53227 414-548-4344 Progressive Health News is a monthly update of new developments and medical research for the immune-compromised. Both Positive Health News and Progressive Health News are newsletters that supplement the book on How To Reverse Immune Dysfunction. Both newsletters can be accessed free at our internet website www.keephope.net that now contains over 500 pages of information on nutritional and immune-based therapies. Around noon on March 10th, he called to ask if I had any work for him to do to earn a few dollars and I told him I did not at this time. He again brought up the subject of his non-detectable viral load and I said that when people use drug cocktails, non-detectable viral loads are common. I asked him, what was your viral load before the last test? : 170,000. Mark: When was this test taken? : Sometime in December. What you don't understand is that I was not using the drugs. Mark: When did you stop using the drugs (for HIV)? : In October. Mark: Why did you stop using the drugs? : I did not like how they made me feel. Mark: So what you are saying is that you stopped the drug cocktail in October and in December, your viral load was 170,000. There is nothing unusual about a viral rebound. At the time I told that maybe the non-detectable viral load was a delayed reaction to a DNCB treatment he had done a few years earlier. I told him " I don't know why your viral load is non-detectable - sometimes things like this just happen and we don't understand why. " With this our conversation ended. Later that evening, I was eating a salad at home and discussing 's case with Tim, a mutual friend. As I was pouring some apple cider vinegar on my salad, I suddenly recalled that I had told late in January or early February to drink some apple cider vinegar for an intestinal problem. I said to Tim: " I wonder if the vinegar used had anything to do with his non-detectable viral load. " I got up from the table and started to walk to the phone to call and the phone rang before I reached it. It was calling me. I asked him -- When was this test taken that showed that your viral load had become non-detectable? : Early in February. Mark: Do you know the date and was this test before you used the vinegar? : No, it was after I used the vinegar. I believe it (the test) was around February 8th. Mark: After? : Yes, I had finished using up the quart of vinegar when the doctor called me in for a blood test. That was about 8 or 10 days after I started on it. Mark: This means that you used about 1/2 cup of vinegar a day for 8 to 10 days before the test. Do you use any drugs (for HIV) between the test in December and the one around February 8th? : Only a couple of times I tried but could not keep them down. Mark: A couple of times could not explain a non-detectable viral load. What happened to your CD4's? : They went to 508. Mark: And what were they in December? : 305. Mark: From 305 to 508, that is incredible. Is there anything else you did differently, any medication or dietary supplement other than the vinegar that you took in the week before you had this test? : Nothing I can think of. Mark: You know that in March of last year, I reported on research in Norway on intravenous heroin drug users who were disinfecting their needles in vinegar and that they had a very low rate of HIV transmission. Also, laboratory tests have found that vinegar can kill the HIV virus. When you took the vinegar, would you say that you used about 2 tablespoons per dose? : Yes, about 2 tablespoons with about 1/2 cup of water. I did this 3 or 4 times a day until the quart of vinegar was gone. It was on the day I finished the quart (of vinegar) that I had blood drawn for the PCR test and the CD4 counts. Mark: Having eliminated all other possibilities, it must have been the vinegar that brought your viral load down to non-detectable levels. : I agree, it couldn't be anything other than the vinegar. I did not do anything else differently. Mark: What did your doctor say? : He asked me what I was doing? I told him nothing. Mark: You didn't tell about your using extreme amounts of vinegar before the test? : No, it didn't occur to me. He had me take another blood test on February 25th. Mark: When will you get those results? : In a few days. Mark: Are you still drinking 1/2 cup of vinegar a day? : After I finished the quart, my stomach was feeling fine, so I stopped using the vinegar or I should say I used it a couple of times a week, I'd say 2 or 3 times. Mark: From 3 or 4 times a day to 2 or 3 times a week is quite a drop in usage. If you were on prescription drugs and you reduced your dosage to every other day, just one dose, the viral load would come back quickly. We will see what happens. March 15th: The viral load returns while the CD4's continue climbing : My viral load is back - at 220,000. However, my CD4's have increased further - now up to 670. My doctor is more confused than ever now. Mark: Understandably. That is an interesting set of numbers. Your viral load and CD4's are going up together. I know that you don't read my monthly reports, but in December, 1999, I reported that M from Brooklyn, NY, told me that he started taking cayenne and apple cider vinegar orally for two weeks. At the time he was also on a triple drug cocktail for HIV and there had been no upward movement in his T cell counts for the past 6 months. He used cayenne capsules with each meal and took 1 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water before bedtime for two weeks before his last test. His CD4's increased from 224 to 289; CD8's from 500 to 900 and WBC's from 5.5 to 6.9. His viral load remained the about the same declining slightly from 10,600 to 10,300. credited the vinegar and the cayenne for the T cell increases as those were the only two things he did differently. As I look at your lab results and that of Bob's, I can initially surmise that taking vinegar once a day or once every other day may increase the CD4's but not decrease the viral load, while taking vinegar 3 or 4 times a day may do both - increase the CD4's and decrease the viral load. While using 2 tablespoons of vinegar 4 times a day apparently reduced your viral load to non-detectable levels, I wonder if taking one tablespoon of vinegar 4 times a day would do or taking 2 tablespoons every 12 hours (twice a day) or taking one tablespoon every eight hours (3 times a day) would do to both the CD4's and the viral load. V of San Francisco A third case report comes from V of San Francisco. Around March 17th, I talked with who shared his experiences of the past year. He picked up a copy of Positive Health News, Report No 18, in May, 1999. This was the issue on " A Consumer's Guide to Immune Restoration. " After following much of the dietary and nutritional advice since June, 1999, he contacted me in the past month. told me that he chose not to go on drug cocktails since his HIV diagnosis last year. He told me that in May of last year, his viral load was 184,000 and this CD4 count was 347. Today he reports a viral load of 31,000 as of Feb., 2000 and a CD4 count of 288 although early in January of this year, he states that the viral load had dropped to 13,127. Since June of last year his viral load declined first to 113,000 in July; to 45,000 in August; to 36,000 in November; to 32,000 in December and to 13,127 in early January of 2000. Starting in June of last year he reports he consumed 5 to 8 cloves of raw garlic daily but stopped in January as the raw garlic was too hard on his stomach. He switched to a garlic capsule after which his viral load increased from 13,127 to 31,000. I asked him if used vinegar. He said: " it is interesting that you ask. I have used 2 or 3 tablespoons of Balsamic vinegar every day on a salad since last summer. " also indicated that he had used olive oil daily for the past two years and since last summer, he has used some Chinese herbs and Reishi mushrooms. After listening to his protocol, I gave him my interpretation of what happened. I told him that I thought it was the raw garlic and the vinegar that had brought his viral load down from 184,000 to 13,127. When he stopped the raw garlic and went to garlic capsules, he lost the antiviral effect from the raw garlic and his viral load rebounded to 31,000. I then told him I thought that the Balsamic vinegar he used every day had a strong antiviral effect. The reason the viral load did not go to undetectable levels was that he had used the vinegar only once a day. I explained to him 's experience with the vinegar he used 3 or 4 times a day for 8 days that brought his viral load to non-detectable levels. I told him that I thought the secret to effective antiviral therapy against HIV or any other virus was in the timing of the doses to more effectively disrupt the viral replication cycle. I suggested that try one tablespoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass of water 3 times a day and exactly 8 hours apart. I suggested he use the drink upon rising, once in the middle of the day (mid-afternoon) and just before bedtime. can be reached at 415-922-3853 to follow his progress on this new protocol. Timing of doses may be the key to successful anti-viral therapy. The original Marc Correa protocol was written in July of 1997. Earlier this week, I attempted to reach him by phone at his grandfather's home. His grandfather told me that Marc had moved out and he did not know his new phone number. I left my phone number with him and he promised to give it to Marc on his next visit. For almost 3 years, I have analyzed the Marc Correa protocol looking for the secret of his success and have had two earlier interpretations on this subject. Now I have a third. It is this: It was the timing of the antivirals he took that brought his viral load down to non-detectable levels. I recall that Marc told me he used the herbal antivirals exactly 3 times a day spaced at the same times he previously used when he was on a drug cocktail that had produced intolerable side effects. As I recall, they were about 8 hours apart. In hindsight, I now regret having not published this small detail that glided right past my conscious mind at the time. I now recall him telling me that he used the whole lemon/olive oil drink at times that would have been about 12 hours apart. While I now recall this information from our conversation, he also failed to include it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 If anyone’s interested, there’s a great book on the history of AIDS itself called The White Death -----Original Message----- From: Kari Trautman [mailto:karitrautman@...] Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2004 7:35 PM candidiasis Subject: Re: Re: Another new guy question Another point along those lines. There was an amazing book wrote about the history of the AIDS epidemic hitting the US. It's called " The Band Marches On " . Do you think that when the government went public about aids tainted blood and launched the screening requirement it was shortly after they were alerted to this fact? Absolutely not. There were many out there that KNEW it was a danger long before it was made official. Reason being the incredible cost associated in having to implement this additional step and take inventory of what was already out there. Finally things got so out of hand that it was launched with a positive spin by the government officials taking the approach that they were being proactive to save lives! That alone is just so sad. There is absolutely a common conspiracy here, and it's stemming from greed. I'd even say that not only do they not fund alternative therapy studies, but they probably have a pretty good team out there in a position to try to falsely try poke holes in products that come out that show a threat to their empire. Kari --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.529 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 16/10/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.529 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 16/10/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 > > If anyone’s interested, there’s a great book on the history of AIDS > itself called The White Death The Beck protocol, and ozone therapy, both reduce AIDS to nothing more than a bit of a nuisance. Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 In a message dated 3/29/2006 4:51:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, bobluhrs@... writes: Probably about 10 years ago. AIDS patients did well with his technique. HIV numbers did not always stably improve, though the symptoms went away in all cases. No small achievement! It is great interest that I read this post and other similar posts regarding AIDS. Approximately ten years ago I was working on the development of a new electronic component for a company in Southern California. I hired a lab technician who had developed and patented an electronic device for the treatment of AIDS that utilized very low current but was pulsated at a given frequency. The two electrodes were held between the thumb and a finger of each hand. He had tremendous success and significantly lowering his t-cell count and others also had similar success. (His device was totally unrelated to the product the company was developing.) He tried to market - sell - his device to a variety of pharmaceutical companies, but they only wanted to " put it on the shelf " as there was much more profit in pills than an electronic device that could wipe out all the symptoms of AIDS. For the last two days I have been trying to remember this man's name with no success except that his first name is . Karl Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 " There is a man here in South Africa who has been living with full > blown AIDS for more than 25 years. The longest in the world, as far as > I know. He says he is alive because of two things - firstly he never > had any STD's before AIDS (even one bout of STD's can reduce your immune > response by half!) and secondly, he went off antiretroviral medication. > He has healed himself through diet and supplementation alone. " Good for him!!!! This also brings to mind ANOTHER AIDS study. Dr. Ann Wigmore, a true natural health pioneer, was forced to move her work reversing AIDS (or treating AIDS patients) to Puerto Rico because she was so successful the U.S. govt tried to shut her down. The AIDS patients improved physically drastically, but she eventually shut the clinic down because no matter HOW MUCH they improved, even going from positive to negative, the AIDS patients were so convinced they were going to die and were terminal, no matter how much their body responded. She saw this most with AIDS patients, and quite obviously due to all the fear and propaganda. Isn't it Zig Zigler who said if you tie a baby elephant to a rock, that when it is an adult and you tie it to the same small rock it could easily overturn, it won't even attempt it because in it's mind, it cannot? That is the same thing..... a Albanese School Of RAWk Certified Raw Nutritionist, Health Coach & Raw Chef Freelance Writer & Advanced Practitioner of The Living Foods Lifestyle Eugene, OR (541) 915 - 1995 SchoolOfRAWk@... www.SchoolOfRAWk.com - Coming Soon! Join School Of RAWk on MySpace at www.myspace.com/SchoolOfRAWk " One cannot come closer to the Gods than by bringing health to his fellowman " ~ Socrates --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 There are many roads to AIDS. Fungus mutates dna so it can cause cancer. I apply cansema to different skin growths, and it kills skin that has fungus. Much better to kill fungus first. Fungus loves to grow in stagnant acidic tissue like mutated skin, cancerous or pre-cancerous. I use an athlete's foot type of cream to kill the fungus so cansema won't make as big a hole though it's generally gentler than dry ice, burning, cutting. Fungus may be a sign of leaky gut syndrome and thus a sign of candidas albicans or HIV drug attacking the membrane wall. Of course leaky gut over-runs the immune cells and then " AIDS " is in effect. Fear and starvation raise cortisol levels, and that is a strong influence toward AIDS. I read a lot about weight control, and weight control can only be accomplished by managing insulin and estrogen. Cortisol is in the picture. What we want for insulin and estrogen management and weight control, to convince the body to burn, not store, fat, and prevent the body from burning away muscle, is the anabolic state, versus catabolic state, as far as cortisol/steroids. Thus a person with chronic fatigue and/or AIDS and/or fat and/or too skinny and/or diabetes2 and/or adrenaline fatigue and/or hypothyroid(low waking temp, eyelashes falling out) should want to raise leptin, stop overdriving the adrenal system, stay in anabolic mode, lift weights. Most of us realize that leaky gut requires changes in diet. Drink water, take fiber(flax fiber), green leafy vegetables, avoid or greatly reduce white flour and sugar. Omega-3. I take a tbsp coconut oil with tsp cod liver oil and then some omega-3 fish oil such as http://dan.xtend-life.com/default.aspx?id=578372 I have had " AIDS " and chronic fatigue from different causes. I have had four kinds of pneumonia. I had adrenal fatigue. The latest round of sleep disorder was insomnia and poor quality sleep, and to fix that I take magnesium and B12(mercola.com nanospray or sublingual tabs), but in the beginning I had other causes of the same symptoms of short term mem loss and some chronic fatigue. These days I if I have fatigue maybe I only need vitamins. In the beginning it was things like leaky gut, candidas albicans, fungus, liver loading, adrenal fatigue. Short term mem loss at another time fit the Hulda Regehr perspective of parasites on the loose through leaky gut and then bacteria excreting ammonia. Those walnut cleanses can't hurt and help virtually everybody, and I did liver flushes. -Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 There are many roads to AIDS. Fungus mutates dna so it can cause cancer. I apply cansema to different skin growths, and it kills skin that has fungus. Much better to kill fungus first. Fungus loves to grow in stagnant acidic tissue like mutated skin, cancerous or pre-cancerous. I use an athlete's foot type of cream to kill the fungus so cansema won't make as big a hole though it's generally gentler than dry ice, burning, cutting. Fungus may be a sign of leaky gut syndrome and thus a sign of candidas albicans or HIV drug attacking the membrane wall. Of course leaky gut over-runs the immune cells and then " AIDS " is in effect. Fear and starvation raise cortisol levels, and that is a strong influence toward AIDS. I read a lot about weight control, and weight control can only be accomplished by managing insulin and estrogen. Cortisol is in the picture. What we want for insulin and estrogen management and weight control, to convince the body to burn, not store, fat, and prevent the body from burning away muscle, is the anabolic state, versus catabolic state, as far as cortisol/steroids. Thus a person with chronic fatigue and/or AIDS and/or fat and/or too skinny and/or diabetes2 and/or adrenaline fatigue and/or hypothyroid(low waking temp, eyelashes falling out) should want to raise leptin, stop overdriving the adrenal system, stay in anabolic mode, lift weights. Most of us realize that leaky gut requires changes in diet. Drink water, take fiber(flax fiber), green leafy vegetables, avoid or greatly reduce white flour and sugar. Omega-3. I take a tbsp coconut oil with tsp cod liver oil and then some omega-3 fish oil such as http://dan.xtend-life.com/default.aspx?id=578372 I have had " AIDS " and chronic fatigue from different causes. I have had four kinds of pneumonia. I had adrenal fatigue. The latest round of sleep disorder was insomnia and poor quality sleep, and to fix that I take magnesium and B12(mercola.com nanospray or sublingual tabs), but in the beginning I had other causes of the same symptoms of short term mem loss and some chronic fatigue. These days I if I have fatigue maybe I only need vitamins. In the beginning it was things like leaky gut, candidas albicans, fungus, liver loading, adrenal fatigue. Short term mem loss at another time fit the Hulda Regehr perspective of parasites on the loose through leaky gut and then bacteria excreting ammonia. Those walnut cleanses can't hurt and help virtually everybody, and I did liver flushes. -Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Ty Bob I love when people actually post info to actually read rather than try and peddle their snake oil and buck rodger gagets! you guys with the zappers why dont you just make a suit you can put on and zap your whole body at once? Hook it up to your computer and control pulse repition rate (prr) set it up as a low voltage microwave and cook that sucker from the inside. And you meliluka and amway salesmen why dont you get together and make one big aids pitch throw your capules in a pile and we can do suppliment orgy. God if all your crap worked like you say, then why do sites like this still exsist? Ive tried enough of the cures, even the urine theropy, and frankly it just pisses me off (literally!) From: Bob D <muckblit@...> Subject: Re:AIDS cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 4:26 PM  There are many roads to AIDS. Fungus mutates dna so it can cause cancer. I apply cansema to different skin growths, and it kills skin that has fungus. Much better to kill fungus first. Fungus loves to grow in stagnant acidic tissue like mutated skin, cancerous or pre-cancerous. I use an athlete's foot type of cream to kill the fungus so cansema won't make as big a hole though it's generally gentler than dry ice, burning, cutting. Fungus may be a sign of leaky gut syndrome and thus a sign of candidas albicans or HIV drug attacking the membrane wall. Of course leaky gut over-runs the immune cells and then " AIDS " is in effect. Fear and starvation raise cortisol levels, and that is a strong influence toward AIDS. I read a lot about weight control, and weight control can only be accomplished by managing insulin and estrogen. Cortisol is in the picture. What we want for insulin and estrogen management and weight control, to convince the body to burn, not store, fat, and prevent the body from burning away muscle, is the anabolic state, versus catabolic state, as far as cortisol/steroids. Thus a person with chronic fatigue and/or AIDS and/or fat and/or too skinny and/or diabetes2 and/or adrenaline fatigue and/or hypothyroid( low waking temp, eyelashes falling out) should want to raise leptin, stop overdriving the adrenal system, stay in anabolic mode, lift weights. Most of us realize that leaky gut requires changes in diet. Drink water, take fiber(flax fiber), green leafy vegetables, avoid or greatly reduce white flour and sugar. Omega-3. I take a tbsp coconut oil with tsp cod liver oil and then some omega-3 fish oil such as http://dan.xtend- life.com/ default.aspx? id=578372 I have had " AIDS " and chronic fatigue from different causes. I have had four kinds of pneumonia. I had adrenal fatigue. The latest round of sleep disorder was insomnia and poor quality sleep, and to fix that I take magnesium and B12(mercola. com nanospray or sublingual tabs), but in the beginning I had other causes of the same symptoms of short term mem loss and some chronic fatigue. These days I if I have fatigue maybe I only need vitamins. In the beginning it was things like leaky gut, candidas albicans, fungus, liver loading, adrenal fatigue. Short term mem loss at another time fit the Hulda Regehr perspective of parasites on the loose through leaky gut and then bacteria excreting ammonia. Those walnut cleanses can't hurt and help virtually everybody, and I did liver flushes. -Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Ty Bob I love when people actually post info to actually read rather than try and peddle their snake oil and buck rodger gagets! you guys with the zappers why dont you just make a suit you can put on and zap your whole body at once? Hook it up to your computer and control pulse repition rate (prr) set it up as a low voltage microwave and cook that sucker from the inside. And you meliluka and amway salesmen why dont you get together and make one big aids pitch throw your capules in a pile and we can do suppliment orgy. God if all your crap worked like you say, then why do sites like this still exsist? Ive tried enough of the cures, even the urine theropy, and frankly it just pisses me off (literally!) From: Bob D <muckblit@...> Subject: Re:AIDS cures for AIDS Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 4:26 PM  There are many roads to AIDS. Fungus mutates dna so it can cause cancer. I apply cansema to different skin growths, and it kills skin that has fungus. Much better to kill fungus first. Fungus loves to grow in stagnant acidic tissue like mutated skin, cancerous or pre-cancerous. I use an athlete's foot type of cream to kill the fungus so cansema won't make as big a hole though it's generally gentler than dry ice, burning, cutting. Fungus may be a sign of leaky gut syndrome and thus a sign of candidas albicans or HIV drug attacking the membrane wall. Of course leaky gut over-runs the immune cells and then " AIDS " is in effect. Fear and starvation raise cortisol levels, and that is a strong influence toward AIDS. I read a lot about weight control, and weight control can only be accomplished by managing insulin and estrogen. Cortisol is in the picture. What we want for insulin and estrogen management and weight control, to convince the body to burn, not store, fat, and prevent the body from burning away muscle, is the anabolic state, versus catabolic state, as far as cortisol/steroids. Thus a person with chronic fatigue and/or AIDS and/or fat and/or too skinny and/or diabetes2 and/or adrenaline fatigue and/or hypothyroid( low waking temp, eyelashes falling out) should want to raise leptin, stop overdriving the adrenal system, stay in anabolic mode, lift weights. Most of us realize that leaky gut requires changes in diet. Drink water, take fiber(flax fiber), green leafy vegetables, avoid or greatly reduce white flour and sugar. Omega-3. I take a tbsp coconut oil with tsp cod liver oil and then some omega-3 fish oil such as http://dan.xtend- life.com/ default.aspx? id=578372 I have had " AIDS " and chronic fatigue from different causes. I have had four kinds of pneumonia. I had adrenal fatigue. The latest round of sleep disorder was insomnia and poor quality sleep, and to fix that I take magnesium and B12(mercola. com nanospray or sublingual tabs), but in the beginning I had other causes of the same symptoms of short term mem loss and some chronic fatigue. These days I if I have fatigue maybe I only need vitamins. In the beginning it was things like leaky gut, candidas albicans, fungus, liver loading, adrenal fatigue. Short term mem loss at another time fit the Hulda Regehr perspective of parasites on the loose through leaky gut and then bacteria excreting ammonia. Those walnut cleanses can't hurt and help virtually everybody, and I did liver flushes. -Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Hi all, since noone here is taking ldn for CIRS- WDBi was wondering if anyone here has AIDS. One of the mold experts has said that advanced mold illness is like AIDS and i tend to agree since i can identify 5 autoimmune conditions in myself and keep getting worse symptoms every day. Im not expecting any miracles but if i can slow down progression that would be something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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