Newbie

November 7, 2002

Have you guys heard of the relationship with the adrenals and thyroid? I

have been taking adrenal glandulars along with thyroid. There is a book out

called Thyroid Power (I think its the one) where the Doc tells about the

relationship and how if your adrenals aren't right you can't correct the

thyroid without helping the adrenals too. There is also a website with a

Living Well plan which tells about it. (You pay for access but it has been

worth it). I was doing pretty good till my Doctor raised my Thyroid (Armour

type) 60 mgs. when I think he should have raised me slower cause I was

closing in on normal. Now I'm having a thyroid storm. BP and heart rate

have been up and literal shaking, etc. (Anxiety too - when I am nervous I

shake like a chihuahua : ) I am seeing an internist tomorrow cause my

results never had made sense. First they thought I had graves. Then

Hashimotos. My thyroid did go hypo - but I also have a tiny hot nodule.

Weird. By the way - I was on this list a while back and am just resigning

on again. I'm Jeanie. I lost 10 lbs by the way! That part has been nice.

Lots of energy. A bit too much now though. More like jello right now : )

Re: newbie

In a message dated 11/6/2002 3:09:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gallea@... writes:

> My head hurts from tyring to figure all this out, but I am feeling

> like the Armour dose is too high. I also believe that my original dose

> of Synthroid was too high, and I am starting to wonder if all the

> anxiety that I have had over the years has been in part due

> to

> overmedication.

Dear ,

What is your average daily body temperature running?

in LA

November 9, 2002

In a message dated 11/7/2002 3:24:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,

jverner@... writes:

> I was doing pretty good till my Doctor raised my Thyroid (Armour

> type) 60 mgs. when I think he should have raised me slower cause I was

> closing in on normal. Now I'm having a thyroid storm. BP and heart rate

> have been up and literal shaking, etc. (Anxiety too - when I am nervous I

> shake like a chihuahua : ) I

This is the thing that bothered me with Armour. I hate to say it 'cause it

does a lot of good for a lot of people. But it just isn't for everyone. I

was glad my doc took me off it and put me on the timed-release T3.

in LA

December 5, 2002

> Hello all,

> Just joined the group today and wanted to introduce myself. My

> name is , I'm 26, and I was just diagnosed with

> hyperthyroidism. I'm on medication for it (Methimazole 5mg). My

eyes

> have bulged all my life making me have that startled look. I've had

a

> pretty good amount of the symptoms as well. Back in 96 my dr.

tested

> my thyroid and said nothing was wrong. But, ever since I had my son

> this past March, and the whole time when I was pregnant, my

symptoms

> worsened. So, my dr. tested me last week and found the problem. So,

> hopefully the medicine will kick in and help me out.

> Jen

hi jen iam kelly i am 25 and was diagnoised shorltly after my 2 year

son was born i am still hyper and on 3 different med methimazole 10mg

and a heart med and paxil do you seem to have alot of anxiety. i have

heard that having children aggravate symptoms my dr told me i

probably had it most of my life and i just got out of control when i

was pregnant. let me now how the meds are working.

December 6, 2002

Hey ,

Yeah, I read that being pregnant can kick your thyroid out of

whack. I too believe I've had a problem all my life and having my

son just aggrivated it. The test I had done in 96 just may not have

tested everything or maybe my thyroid evened itself out, if that is

possible. I've also had a heart problem. I was told a long time ago

that I had a murmur, which I think is true b/c from time to time I

feel a flutter in my chest. Thats the best way I can describe it.

Anyway, but I do have high blood pressure and a " tacky " (sp?) heart

rate. But, I hope I don't have to go on heart meds for it. I do seem

to have a lot of anxiety. If I'm on the phone talking, even to my

sis or my best friend, I notice I feel nervous and my voice shakes,

like I'm talking in front of a large group or something. Same for if

I have to go somewhere and ask for something. Like, I had to change

daycares for my son b/c the one he was at didn't have a 2nd shift.

Now, I need him back on 1st shift, so I had to go back to the

original place (for 1 they are cheaper and for 2 he did really

really well there and loved it). Before I was on meds, I'd be all

nervous about and and by time I would get to my car to leave I'd be

shaking. Well, now that I'm on meds, I was fine. Totally fine. It

was actually nice for once to not get so nervous about something so

ordinary. So, thus far something about the medicine is working. I'll

let you know how things go and how my CBC test turns out.

Jen

December 7, 2002

Hello

The trouble with doctors is that they seem to look at your test result figures

and base everything on that whilst ignoring you and your symptoms. Many people

can be hyperthyroid (and/or hypothyroid) whilst having their test result figures

within the so-called 'normal ranges'. To make life easier for ourselves we need

to find out what our optimum levels are and then we know for ourselves what

levels are not good for us.

Newbie

Hello all,

Just joined the group today and wanted to introduce myself. My

name is , I'm 26, and I was just diagnosed with

hyperthyroidism. I'm on medication for it (Methimazole 5mg). My eyes

have bulged all my life making me have that startled look. I've had a

pretty good amount of the symptoms as well. Back in 96 my dr. tested

my thyroid and said nothing was wrong. But, ever since I had my son

this past March, and the whole time when I was pregnant, my symptoms

worsened. So, my dr. tested me last week and found the problem. So,

hopefully the medicine will kick in and help me out.

Jen

February 19, 2003

>

> ...I am glad that the meds are working for you. i used to have such

bad panic attacks that they had to put me on paxil. yeah the word

paxil just sounds like your crazy. i still get a little nervous from

time to time but it is a lot better. ...

February 23, 2003

Janna,

I can't write much, but I just wanted to mention that eating little is bad

b/c you don't want your body to be in starvation mode. There are people on

this board that know more about that

welcome!

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February 23, 2003

Welcome Janna,

I'm afraid I can't offer much real help at this point, myself, but

want to just say hi. I'm just figuring out the thyroid problem I was

just diagnosed with, myself, but don't feel bad about venting here.

We understand.

I have two preschoolers, too, and have just gotten the dr to admit

the TSH was too high - it got out of the 'normal' range this last

test. I've been soo tired for soooo long, and couldn't get anyone to

listen to me either. I don't have your stress levels, either! wow.

I think you'll find plenty of information - take care.

Kristie

In hypothyroidism , Janna <jannatex@y...> wrote:

>

> Hi!

> My name is Janna, and I just joined your group. I'm a 35-year-old

mother of two recently diagnosed with 's Syndrome.

February 25, 2003

I was recently diagnosed with a hypothyroid -- can you please give me an example

of Low-glycemic diet please?

Thank you.

Charmaine

Low-glycemic diet is best for those of us

with thyroid disfunction.

February 26, 2003

I use the Dr. Atkins diet, but there are others such as The Zone,

Carbohydrate Addicts, Schwarzbein Principle and the Suzanne Somers Diet.

Do an internet search on low-carbohydrate diets and you should be able

to find info on all the diets and figure out which one you'll be able to

follow the easiest. The last four that I listed allow quite a bit more

carbohydrates than Dr. Atkins and I didn't lose weight very fast when I

tried them. On Atkins I'm losing at least a pound a day.

Re: Re: Newbie

I was recently diagnosed with a hypothyroid -- can you please give me an

example of Low-glycemic diet please?

Thank you.

Charmaine

Low-glycemic diet is best for those of us

with thyroid disfunction.

February 26, 2003

Charmaine,

here are some websites I had handy on GI.

http://www.ez-weightloss.com/ez-weightloss/articleglycemicindex.html

http://www.anime.net/~go/glycemic.html

http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/glycinin.html

http://sln.fi.edu/brain/nutrition/carbohydrates/glycemic.html

HTH,

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February 26, 2003

Does carbohydrates not also consist of milk and cheese -- I heard that cutting

out them too can very well lead to osteoarthritis or osteoporosis?

Charmaine

I use the Dr. Atkins diet, but there are others such as The Zone,

Carbohydrate Addicts, Schwarzbein Principle and the Suzanne Somers Diet.

Do an internet search on low-carbohydrate diets and you should be able

to find info on all the diets and figure out which one you'll be able to

follow the easiest. The last four that I listed allow quite a bit more

carbohydrates than Dr. Atkins and I didn't lose weight very fast when I

tried them. On Atkins I'm losing at least a pound a day.

April 9, 2003

Dear Shirl,

OhmyGod, you've been through a lot!

When I had Graves, I found I was able to adjust my own dose of Tap by

listening to my body--I didn't rely on labs to tell me how I was feeling. I

don't think my system would work for everyone, but it did allow me to see the

idiot doctor less. I always find the less doctors I see, the better I feel .

.. .

Of course, the supplements and alternative methods can be expensive too, I

know. Probably using nutritition to balance our body is the most economical

way to health . . . Lots of info on iThyroid.

I hope you feel better soon. You sound like a strong person who is going

through a really rough patch. I've had a few rough patches myself, as

probably most of us have, so please feel free to share and vent here--we'll

all understand.

Best,

AntJoan

April 9, 2003

Dear Shirl:

You may want to check with local churches or other organizations and find out

if they have doctors giving out free services.

I know things can be very bad but please try to have faith in God and keep on

working to turn things around. You may want to consider finishing your

graduate school with a Federal Grant (The school would have the

information).

Take good care,

Pam

July 24, 2003

I get so mad w/physicians sometimes.....they can be so insensitive. After I

finish medical school, I promise to never treat any patient of mine with

that disrespect.

Anyway, there are a few tests that can be done for Candida overgrowth. One

is to test for antibodies against the Candida in the blood. I also believe

there is a stool test, but I am not as familiar with that test. Finding a

MD w/such knowledge of Candida is tough. Try looking for a DO or an ND in

your aread. At least a DO cand prescribe Difulcan or Nyastin if need be.

By the way, everyone I know who has taken the spit test had the same

results.

I personally believe I developed Candida overgrowth in college.....it was

very hard for me to eat healthy during that time b/c of the alcohol and junk

food that surrounded me. I would suggest Threelac for your daughter since

it seems to be somewhat tolerated bt poor diet. However, your daughter will

never truly heal unless she also drastically changes her diet as well. This

means no beer/refined carbs/dairy/vinegar/and SUGAR. It is hard to be

creative in college. Maybe the two of you can research easy and cheap meals

for her while she in away.

I am posting some websites for you below. If you are interested in

threelac, a woman by the name of Mona seems to be selling it for the

cheapest price. Her email is Knew2stock@...

http://www.cwchealth.com/

http://www.rainbowminerals.net/candida.htm

http://www.wholeapproach.com/

http://www.modernherbalist.com/products/intermediary-candida.html

This is a very tough organism to fight, but please stay strong. Tell your

daughter that the work she puts into her health right now will save her a

lifetime of misery.

-Patty

>From: wannie2@...

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: Newbie

>Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:16:31 EDT

>

>I found this list and am looking for some help. I believe that my 19 yr

>old

>daguhter () has candida. She has been suffering from the strangest

>problems for about 8 months. She has gained 11 pounds this month, is itchy

>all the

>time, has developed pains in her abdomen, depression,and many other

>symtpoms

>that appear on the checklists that I have seen. She also just started

>armour

>thyroid for hypo and I do not believe that hypo is her biggest problem,

>although many of the symptoms are the same. She was reffered to a gastro

>who was

>very thourough and said that she has IBS. No cure of course. I asked him

>about

>candida and he actually made fun of me asking if he touched her was he

>going

>to catch it. I did give her the spit in the glass test and it resembled a

>jellyfish with lots of tendrills. I took the test and had the same effect

>but it

>was not as immediate or as severe as hers. My questions are these. Is

>there a

>test that regualr doctors give to confirm candida and are they willing to

>do

>so? Do they prescrible meds for this? Also, I have read that IBS is

>sometimes

>diagnosed and the real problem is candida.....is this true? The gastro

>called me after the visit and said that he wanted to have a

>colonoscopy.

>Just in case there is another problem. I want to eliminate all other

>possibilities before we do that. So, where do I go from here. is

>leaving for

>college in three weeks. She is not good about following through with

>medical

>protocol. I can't even get her to take vitamins. What I am looking for is

>the

>easiest way to deal with this knowing the way she is. Does Difflican work?

>Is

>there something to be done is a two week period. I think that she will

>watch

>her diet but I know that she will probably blow it at college (like

>drinking

>beer) Any help is appreciated.

>

>Wannie

>

July 24, 2003

Hello Wannie it sounds like your daughter does have Candida. Has she used

antibiotics for an extended amount of time, or is using oral contraceptives? If

she has then she could very well have Candida. I used antibiotics for acne and

I developed a yeast infection that would not go away then my symptoms became

serverly worse depression, fatigue,blurred vision, urinary tract infections and

coated white tongue (that is a major symptom)

i went to the doctor and got tested for everything diabetes and more. I would

take your daughter to the doctor just to eliminate diabetes or thyroid problems

or any other problem. If that comes out okay then I would ask for her to be

tested for Candida. Doctors are extremely skeptical of Candida. I was told

because they are not well informed of Candida. Find a doctor that will listen

to her. If your daughter is anything like me she is probabley extremly

frustrated. I had to go another route from doctors i had to take my health in

my own hands. Doctors couldn't find anything wrong with me so they said " it was

all in my head " . I am using Threelac this product is a candida defense

supplement that is suppose to wipe out candida. When you have candida you are

suppose to go on a strict diet no yeast products breads, starches , no processed

foods and no sugar. Yeast love sugar !! Using Threelac you don't have to be on

such strict diet, you should still avoid foods with lots of

sugar and don't overdo it on dairy products. The product Diflucan did not work

for me i think Diflucan is for people who have a normal yeast infection that

goes away in seven days. I hope you and our daughter find the answers you are

looking for. I hope my story was helpful to you- Jill

Take care -Jill

wannie2@... wrote:

I found this list and am looking for some help. I believe that my 19 yr old

daguhter () has candida. She has been suffering from the strangest

problems for about 8 months. She has gained 11 pounds this month, is itchy all

the

time, has developed pains in her abdomen, depression,and many other symtpoms

that appear on the checklists that I have seen. She also just started armour

thyroid for hypo and I do not believe that hypo is her biggest problem,

although many of the symptoms are the same. She was reffered to a gastro who was

very thourough and said that she has IBS. No cure of course. I asked him about

candida and he actually made fun of me asking if he touched her was he going

to catch it. I did give her the spit in the glass test and it resembled a

jellyfish with lots of tendrills. I took the test and had the same effect but it

was not as immediate or as severe as hers. My questions are these. Is there a

test that regualr doctors give to confirm candida and are they willing to do

so? Do they prescrible meds for this? Also, I have read that IBS is sometimes

diagnosed and the real problem is candida.....is this true? The gastro

called me after the visit and said that he wanted to have a colonoscopy.

Just in case there is another problem. I want to eliminate all other

possibilities before we do that. So, where do I go from here. is leaving

for

college in three weeks. She is not good about following through with medical

protocol. I can't even get her to take vitamins. What I am looking for is the

easiest way to deal with this knowing the way she is. Does Difflican work? Is

there something to be done is a two week period. I think that she will watch

her diet but I know that she will probably blow it at college (like drinking

beer) Any help is appreciated.

Wannie

July 25, 2003

I have to thank everyone that replied to me. I also just received a phone

call from 's (daughter) DO and he informed me that has

Epstein-Barr. For the last few hours I have been doing research since I did not

know a

lot about it. I found one site that said that candida and hypothyroid are

related problems. She is a bit hypo and is taking Armour. I am so sure that

she

has a yeast problem and I have oreder Threelac to startr on this. I am a long

time low carbber and can get her into the appropriate diet (very similar minus

the dairy) She has taken birth control pills for about four years due to heavy

periods. She is sleeping right now and I woke her to tell her what she has

and she said that she is just glad that she has something that the doctors can

see. Now people will not think that she is crazy, lazy, a whiner, and a

hypocondriac. Any info about this virus that anyone has will be greatly

appreciated. It also seems like it is almost identical to CFS.....also mono.

Apparently

you get this by kissing just like mono.

Wannie

July 25, 2003

Wannie-

You and your daughter may be very interested in the following website/book.

A lot of the symptoms you mentioned . The link is below:

http://www.schwarzbeinprinciple.com/

Take Care,

Patty

>From: wannie2@...

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: Re:Newbie

>Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:20:34 EDT

>

>I have to thank everyone that replied to me. I also just received a phone

>call from 's (daughter) DO and he informed me that has

>Epstein-Barr. For the last few hours I have been doing research since I

>did not know a

>lot about it. I found one site that said that candida and hypothyroid are

>related problems. She is a bit hypo and is taking Armour. I am so sure

>that she

>has a yeast problem and I have oreder Threelac to startr on this. I am a

>long

>time low carbber and can get her into the appropriate diet (very similar

>minus

>the dairy) She has taken birth control pills for about four years due to

>heavy

>periods. She is sleeping right now and I woke her to tell her what she has

>and she said that she is just glad that she has something that the doctors

>can

>see. Now people will not think that she is crazy, lazy, a whiner, and a

>hypocondriac. Any info about this virus that anyone has will be greatly

>appreciated. It also seems like it is almost identical to CFS.....also

>mono. Apparently

>you get this by kissing just like mono.

>

>Wannie

>

July 25, 2003

I'm am so glad that your daughter found out what is wrong with her. I think the

you will find the Threelac to be benefical to her health. Unfortunatly I don't

know much about Epstein Barr all i know is it is like mono. I think she should

consult with her doctor about taking a break from birth control. After all I

think the birth control is the culprit of her problem.

take care - Jill

wannie2@... wrote:

I have to thank everyone that replied to me. I also just received a phone

call from 's (daughter) DO and he informed me that has

Epstein-Barr. For the last few hours I have been doing research since I did not

know a

lot about it. I found one site that said that candida and hypothyroid are

related problems. She is a bit hypo and is taking Armour. I am so sure that she