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Hello, Thank You so much !!! I am trying to figure a way to afford the device, but I will need to make money helping others to do this. I am certified in EEG bio-feedback, but am afraid to practice with it without an MD to cover my #*****ss. Are you practicing and marketing yourself or personal use only ? I went to the Atlas.... website and the only practioners in the USA were in California and we're in Virginia Beach, Va.. I Know mine is out of whack bigtime. I tell people ""my head isn't on straight", because I have a huge boney protrusion in that area and I've felt for a long time that this has affected my posture, hyperactive tendencies, etc. Would love to find someone who can look at my wife Lola and myself as well. Any info, help, muchly appreciated. She is in bad shape, and I am barely holding up under the strain of it all. I have come to terms with life and myself a lot through all of

this and re-affirmed my true values, but with money and physical stamina draining out of every pore, I keep succumbing to the FEAR factor.She actually has been stronger emotionally than I have lately - she's amazing and I love her dearly !! I hope all goes well with your journey of healing. Please keep me posted as to how YOU are doing !! Thank You Again, Tolljacqueline_jacques <jacqueline_jacques@...> wrote: HelloI bought my SCIO more than a year ago. I

have been diagnosed with MS 13 years ago. I do not take any allopathic medicine (I tried during 15 days and I could not stand the side effects). The SCIO has helped me a lot over the last year.It is evident that the SCIO sessions must be supported by the proper lifestyle changes, supplements, etc. Many books have been written on the subject. The MS emotional conflict as described by Dr Hamer is also important to assimilate.Over the last year, I gave myself SCIO treatments every week (Bourne Protocol and many others protocols).Lately, my condition has greatly improved since 1) I had a heavy metals detox with Natural Cellular Defense (NCD) and Klammassin (which is zeolite specially formulated to remove the heavy metals in the brain) and 2) I went for an ATLAS adjustment according to the «Atlasprofilax» method (for more information, please refer to www.atlasprofilax.com). According to Dr

Scumperli, the inventor of the method, most of the human have an ATLAS displaced! This last therapy was just amazing for me and I recommand this adjustment (2 treatment only) to everyone with a disease. Please note that this Atlas adjustment is totally safe (without neck cracking!) Furthermore, at the Budapest Congres, Dr Small clearly stated that MS is caused by the Polio vaccine. I am now working with my SCIO on reversing all traces of the vaccines and miasms.I am looking forward to having the new SCIO version to work with the Stem Cells therapy. I believe that this Stem Cell therapy will have all the the chances to succeed as my body is detoxified and my spine is perfectly aligned.I definitely believe that the SCIO is an important key for the MS treatment and any other disease. You are welcome to contact me if you would like more information about my approach to MS

treatment.France>> I just came to this website for the first time - my wife has MS. I > was told that this system is amazing. Where on the website does it > fully explain the technology ??> Also, I wish to stay in touch on this MS discussion as it evolves. > Also, a friend with emphasema - anything on that??> Dave>

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Hi , I have just recently been looking into the possibilities of using/purchasing the device. I am certified in bio-feedback but we moved to Virginia(USA) from Pennsylvania so my wife can be near family and my Psychologist License won't transfer, so I am afraid to practice on my own and cannot afford to buy one if I cannot use it to make money. I am OK financially right now, but my house up Noth is not selling, despite 4 price reductions, and I'm looking for a Doctor to work under to do bio-feedback and maybe thhis too, but the Medical Community here is very conservative and can be vicious !! I have been in contact with Kathy on this website and a distributor she works with and I would get 13 CD's and a week of training. Then I would know more about what further help I may need. I myself have emphasema, but am strong right now, but I think I need to start working on myself too !!! I'm curious what your legal situation is and how vulnerable you feel about practicing ?? And any advice you have for me would be appreciated. Thank you for writing and your concern !! Toll Branco <sciosubspace@...> wrote: Hi Dave You need to tell us a bit more. Are you treating your wife? Do you have a SCIO? Do you want help on how to work the machine? protocols

etc. Regards Branco LCPH MARH FBIH London Consulting in Energetic Medicine since 1985 Tel.: +49 30 30101163 1 email sciosubspacehotmail2 email sciosubspace http://spaces.msn.com/brancofernando EPFXChat/ This e-mail is confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee it may be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately. From: "assteroid414" <assteroid414 >Reply-qxci-english To:

qxci-english Subject: MSDate: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:45:45 -0000 I just came to this website for the first time - my wife has MS. I was told that this system is amazing. Where on the website does it fully explain the technology ??Also, I wish to stay in touch on this MS discussion as it evolves. Also, a friend with emphasema - anything on that??Dave Hotmail is evolving - be one of the first to try the Windows Live™ Mail Beta

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the Zavita product from the Amazon contains many herbs including

samento/cat's claw which is great for Lyme.

www.myzavita.com/alexisrotella

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If you take the Zavita, I've found, do it three weeks on, one week

off. Cat's claw is powerful medicine (one of the herbs therein).

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> > > was told that this system is amazing. Where on the website does it

> > > fully explain the technology ??

> > > Also, I wish to stay in touch on this MS discussion as it

> > evolves.

> > > Also, a friend with emphasema - anything on that??

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[Guest guest]

I bet they grow chia seats in Israel.

http://www.living-foods.com/articles/chia.html

At 02:53 AM 4/12/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>It's a difficult to talk about curing MS. I have what is called remitting

>relapsing MS, meaning that there are times when I am very well. I think I

>have helped myself, and keep symptoms quiet when ever they want to start

>up, but there is no way I can be sure.

>

>I wrote to the ms cure group that I wish to move ahead and cure the MS,

>not just the symptoms. No one answered, so I assume I am on my own....

>

>I usually follow up on the msgs that Keely sends, going to the hub from

>the links. There is a lot in the hub that I just can't get: English is not

>my language, and it seems that I have some kind of learning disability. So

>I read the recommended lessons, sometimes several times. I know that even

>when I do not understand, it soaks in. I prefer reading to the audio, I

>can understand more (and look up words...)

>

>I had a huge flop trying to help myself during the war. As much as I

>tried, I could not find the calm place. On the other hand, I think the

>immunics helped me not allow the MS to get worst due to stress. I think I

>still suffer post trauma. From time to time I try to work on it, I seem to

>be doing better.

>

>thanks for asking

>love

>shoshana

[Guest guest]

HI CATHERINE, MY NAME IS SUSAN, I HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH MS FOR ABOUT 10

YEARS NOW. BEE'S DIET HELPED ME BECOME ACTIVE AGAIN AND I CAN'T THANK HER

ENOUGH. THERE'S ALSO A TERRIFIC BOOK BY ANN BOROCH, WHO IS CURING HERSELF

NATURALLY WITH A CANDIDA DIET. SHE TALKS EXTENSIVELY ABOUT HOW CANDIDA IS A

MAJOR

FACTOR IN M.S. HER BOOK'S TITLE IS " HEALING MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS- DIET, DETOX

AND NUTRITIONAL MAKEOVER FOR TOTAL RECOVERY. " BEE'S DIET REALLY HELPS

BECAUSE THE FATS IN IT HELP THE MYELIN SHEATH WHICH IS DAMAGED BY M.S. THE

MYELIN

SHEATH IS A NEURO TRANSMITTER THAT GIVES SIGNALS TO THE BODY TO DO WHAT YOU

WANT IT TO. WHEN THAT SHEATH IS DAMAGED FROM MS, IT NEEDS THE GOOD FATS TO HELP

IT TRANSMIT INFORMATION TO YOUR BODY.. I HOPE THIS HELPS, ALL THE BEST,

SUSAN

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>

> My friend is visiting with me and we have been talking a lot about

my diet. Her 18 year old

> son has been diagnosed with MS, quite progressive type. They are

treating it conventionally

> while also looking to alternative options. They have been told by

the MS society to adopt a

> vegan style diet while reducing fats as much as possible, using

only olive and flaxseed oils. I

> have been talking about coconut oil, raw butter and organic meat

fats as being beneficial for

> nutrition. They have been told that saturated fats are BAD!! As I

don't have the background to

> defend my own position I said I would post here and hopefully get a

couple of answers or

> links to explain the science around it. I am grateful for any

answers.

> regards

>

==>Hi , I'm running short on time, but you can ask such

people: " Then how could our ancestors have survived before

industrialization because they ate lots of good saturated fats? "

Also heart disease, cancer, and other degenerative diseases we have

today were very rare before industrialization. Look up articles on

heart disease, saturated fats, cholesterol, etc. at:

www.westonaprice.org

www.mercola.com

www.thincs.org

Sorry, gotta run.

Bee

>

[Guest guest]

HI ,

Bee already gave you some great info, and so did . But I also

wanted to add that Irene posted the link below a few days ago, and

what I like about the article is that it clearly outlines how there

really is no sound data proving that saturated fats are bad. It was

also published by a mainstream website, so people who tend to think

mainstream, would be more likely to be convinced by this article than

other less conventional sources.

http://health.msn.com/centers/cholesterol/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=1001728\

01 & page=1

I think articles like these are good stepping stones to other

nutritional issues. The hardest thing is to get people to consider

information that goes against the prevailing " wisdom " of the day. But

if you can get someone to start to question that " wisdom, " its a lot

easier from there on out to get them to come around.

Another item you may consider using as a talking point is the book,

" Eat fat, lose fat " which goes into why saturated fats are good for

you as well. I think starting with these two resources you can make a

pretty good case for why saturated fats are not the health risk they

are made out to be. And if you can convince them of that, from there

you will have more leverage to get them to consider Bee's diet.

Hope this helps, good luck!

Jecca

--- " juliusluke2004 " <matthys@...> wrote:

>

My friend is visiting with me and we have been talking a lot about my

diet. Her 18 year old son has been diagnosed with MS, quite

progressive type. They are treating it conventionally while also

looking to alternative options. They have been told by the MS society

to adopt a vegan style diet while reducing fats as much as possible,

using only olive and flaxseed oils. I have been talking about coconut

oil, raw butter and organic meat fats as being beneficial for

nutrition. They have been told that saturated fats are BAD!! As I

don't have the background to defend my own position I said I would

post here and hopefully get a couple of answers or links to explain

the science around it. I am grateful for any answers.

[Guest guest]

>

> HI CATHERINE, MY NAME IS SUSAN, I HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH MS FOR

ABOUT 10

> YEARS NOW. BEE'S DIET HELPED ME BECOME ACTIVE AGAIN AND I CAN'T

THANK HER

> ENOUGH. THERE'S ALSO A TERRIFIC BOOK BY ANN BOROCH, WHO IS CURING

HERSELF

> NATURALLY WITH A CANDIDA DIET. SHE TALKS EXTENSIVELY ABOUT HOW

CANDIDA IS A MAJOR

> FACTOR IN M.S. HER BOOK'S TITLE IS " HEALING MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS-

DIET, DETOX

> AND NUTRITIONAL MAKEOVER FOR TOTAL RECOVERY. " BEE'S DIET REALLY

HELPS

> BECAUSE THE FATS IN IT HELP THE MYELIN SHEATH WHICH IS DAMAGED BY

M.S. THE MYELIN

> SHEATH IS A NEURO TRANSMITTER THAT GIVES SIGNALS TO THE BODY TO DO

WHAT YOU

> WANT IT TO. WHEN THAT SHEATH IS DAMAGED FROM MS, IT NEEDS THE GOOD

FATS TO HELP

> IT TRANSMIT INFORMATION TO YOUR BODY.. I HOPE THIS HELPS, ALL

THE BEST,

> SUSAN

==>Dear . Please do not type in all capital letters. Not only

is it very hard to read, but in " internet " language it means you are

shouting. Thanks so much.

Thanks for the great information my friend!

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I too would like to know more about this. I heard about testing done on ppl with

MS. When they withdrew the animal protein, they stopped having MS symptoms due

to undigested protein fraction (soemthing like that) which in healthy

individuals -we are able to get rid off.

Joni

juliusluke2004 <matthys@...> wrote: My

friend is visiting with me and we have been talking a lot about my diet. Her 18

year old

son has been diagnosed with MS, quite progressive type. They are treating it

conventionally

while also looking to alternative options. They have been told by the MS

society to adopt a

vegan style diet while reducing fats as much as possible, using only olive and

flaxseed oils. I

have been talking about coconut oil, raw butter and organic meat fats as being

beneficial for

nutrition. They have been told that saturated fats are BAD!!

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi all,

>

> I too would like to know more about this. I heard about testing

done on ppl with MS. When they withdrew the animal protein, they

stopped having MS symptoms due to undigested protein fraction

(soemthing like that) which in healthy individuals -we are able to

get rid off.

>

> Joni

==>Hi Joni. Doctors do not understand nutrition and how all of the

good fats, oil soluble vitamins, omega-3 work together with protein,

minerals, etc. to digest protein - undigested protein is caused by a

lack of some or all of these nutrients. It would help alleviate MS

symptoms to eliminate undigested protein, but that is not the answer

for curing MS. Only animal sources of protein contain all of the

nutrients the body requires.

Also, fats and protein from animal sources are the 2 easiest foods

for the body to digest compared to carbs of any kind.

MS is one of those diseases that are caused by candida overgrowth, so

this program helps them. Because MS involves the nerves, that

regenerate every 7 years, it can take them longer to reconstruct

their nerve cells to the way nature intended. In order for the cell

membranes to be healthy they must be constructed out of 50% saturated

fat (lung cells require 100%).

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank so much to Bee, and Jecca for their replies about MS. I showed them

all to my

friend who is visiting and that got her thinking but still not totally accepting

that good

saturated fats were the answer. I then gave her 'Eat fat Lose Fat' and she has

read the

whole book in two days and is now so excited about her new found knowledge. She

has

rung her son who has the ms and they are having good discusions about how they

will

modify his diet and move forward. This is a ray of hope to them and they are so

excited.

I'm so glad I posted the question here and was able to draw on your wonderful

wisdom

and knowledge.

regards

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I too would like to know more about this. I heard about testing

> done on ppl with MS. When they withdrew the animal protein, they

> stopped having MS symptoms due to undigested protein fraction

> (soemthing like that) which in healthy individuals -we are able to

> get rid off.

> >

> > Joni

>

> ==>Hi Joni. Doctors do not understand nutrition and how all of the

> good fats, oil soluble vitamins, omega-3 work together with protein,

> minerals, etc. to digest protein - undigested protein is caused by a

> lack of some or all of these nutrients. It would help alleviate MS

> symptoms to eliminate undigested protein, but that is not the answer

> for curing MS. Only animal sources of protein contain all of the

> nutrients the body requires.

>

> Also, fats and protein from animal sources are the 2 easiest foods

> for the body to digest compared to carbs of any kind.

>

> MS is one of those diseases that are caused by candida overgrowth, so

> this program helps them. Because MS involves the nerves, that

> regenerate every 7 years, it can take them longer to reconstruct

> their nerve cells to the way nature intended. In order for the cell

> membranes to be healthy they must be constructed out of 50% saturated

> fat (lung cells require 100%).

>

> The best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

That is SUCH great news! I am so happy for you and your friends. As

for thanks, if anything, your friends have YOU to thank for taking the

extra time and expense to share the information. It takes time and

energy to undo years of nutritional misinformation. I applauded your

effort and your sucess in doing that!

I would also recommend, since they have shown interest in the type of

information that supports Bee's approach to nutrition, that you

forward her the address for this group as well. But you

probably did that already! " )

Anyway, keep us posted on his progress, and thanks for sharing the

good news!

Jecca

--- " juliusluke2004 " <matthys@...> wrote:

Thank so much to Bee, and Jecca for their replies about MS. I

showed them all to my friend who is visiting and that got her thinking

but still not totally accepting that good saturated fats were the

answer. I then gave her 'Eat fat Lose Fat' and she has read the whole

book in two days and is now so excited about her new found knowledge.

She has rung her son who has the ms and they are having good

discusions about how they will modify his diet and move forward. This

is a ray of hope to them and they are so excited. I'm so glad I posted

the question here and was able to draw on your wonderful wisdom and

knowledge...

[Guest guest]

That's fabulous ! I'm so happy for you, your friend and her

son!!

Lotsa hugs, Bee

>

>

> Thank so much to Bee, and Jecca for their replies about MS. I

showed them all to my

> friend who is visiting and that got her thinking but still not

totally accepting that good

> saturated fats were the answer. I then gave her 'Eat fat Lose Fat'

and she has read the

> whole book in two days and is now so excited about her new found

knowledge. She has

> rung her son who has the ms and they are having good discusions

about how they will

> modify his diet and move forward. This is a ray of hope to them and

they are so excited.

> I'm so glad I posted the question here and was able to draw on your

wonderful wisdom

> and knowledge.

> regards

>

[Guest guest]

My husband Steve, has primary progressive MS. A vegan style diet made

him much worse. He now eats healthily but does not try to keep away

from saturated fats. He is reasonably well considering he has had

progressing MS for more than twenty years.

The MS society don't know much about primary progressive MS. Like the

drug companies, they are only into the common relapsing, remitting

type of MS and occasionally secondary progressive.

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:36:22 -0000, you wrote:

>My friend is visiting with me and we have been talking a lot about my diet. Her

18 year old

>son has been diagnosed with MS, quite progressive type. They are treating it

conventionally

>while also looking to alternative options. They have been told by the MS

society to adopt a

>vegan style diet while reducing fats as much as possible, using only olive and

flaxseed oils. I

>have been talking about coconut oil, raw butter and organic meat fats as being

beneficial for

>nutrition. They have been told that saturated fats are BAD!! As I don't have

the background to

>defend my own position I said I would post here and hopefully get a couple of

answers or

>links to explain the science around it. I am grateful for any answers.

>regards

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just saw a doctor on television speaking about MS symptoms being reversed

by following a “gluten free” diet. You may want to consider doing this if

you have not done so, as gluten is found in many things. Gluten is found in

soy sauce, vinegars, and condiments as well as grains and packaged goods.

Also, asking your doctor for a blood panel to check for gluten/celiac also

wouldn’t be a bad idea.

I have turned by life around with diet, please see if this could be a

solution for you as well.

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of mary@...

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] MS

My husband Steve, has primary progressive MS. A vegan style diet made

him much worse. He now eats healthily but does not try to keep away

from saturated fats. He is reasonably well considering he has had

progressing MS for more than twenty years.

The MS society don't know much about primary progressive MS. Like the

drug companies, they are only into the common relapsing, remitting

type of MS and occasionally secondary progressive.

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:36:22 -0000, you wrote:

>My friend is visiting with me and we have been talking a lot about my diet.

Her 18 year old

>son has been diagnosed with MS, quite progressive type. They are treating

it conventionally

>while also looking to alternative options. They have been told by the MS

society to adopt a

>vegan style diet while reducing fats as much as possible, using only olive

and flaxseed oils. I

>have been talking about coconut oil, raw butter and organic meat fats as

being beneficial for

>nutrition. They have been told that saturated fats are BAD!! As I don't

have the background to

>defend my own position I said I would post here and hopefully get a couple

of answers or

>links to explain the science around it. I am grateful for any answers.

>regards

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have had excellent results with many MS cases that I have treated. Be sure to look for Polio and Polio Vaccine on the Matrix. My opinion after seeing dozens of MS cases is that it is caused by the body's inability to effectively deal with the Polio vaccine that was administered in childhood. Be sure to give the appropriate homeopathic remedies and also check for and treat Candida which is usually present in most MS cases. Essential Fatty Acids are also frequently deficient. Some spaces have opened up in my Free Remote Mentoring Program if you are interested.

Dr. Small

Quantum Health

Los Angeles, CA

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. Small,I am new to the group. I just purchased a used QXCI. Is your mentoring offer open to newbies? I will be using thismostly for personal use, however I have a client base of horse owners and I do a lot of long distance sessions already.I am certified Equine Body Worker, and specialize in CranioSacral Therapy for horses, and havecreated a unique blend of energy therapies and call itBIT - Balanced Integrative Therapies.I am in the Riverside, Corona of So. Cal.Thank you.. Kruegerwww.kruegerhorsetherapy.comwww.kruegerenergyhealing.com I would like to use the QXCI

subspace for my groupof subscribers.From: quantumdoctor@... <quantumdoctor@...>Subject: Re:MSqxci-scio-epfx-english Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 10:11 AM

I have had excellent results with many MS cases that I have treated. Be sure to look for Polio and Polio Vaccine on the Matrix. My opinion after seeing dozens of MS cases is that it is caused by the body's inability to effectively deal with the Polio vaccine that was administered in childhood. Be sure to give the appropriate homeopathic remedies and also check for and treat Candida which is usually present in most MS cases. Essential Fatty Acids are also frequently deficient. Some spaces have opened up in my Free Remote Mentoring Program if you are interested.

Dr. Small

Quantum Health

Los Angeles, CA

[Guest guest]

DR.Small, do you still have open spaces for your Remote Mentoring program.

Thank you ,

Ruth

[Guest guest]

Yes, the Remote Mentoring Program is available to all, regardless of experience and is tailored to your specific needs. Contact me directly for further details.

Dr. Small

Quantum Health

[Guest guest]

Hi

What is the Remote Mentoring Program all about

Thank you - appreciate

Ronnie

Re: MS

Yes, the Remote Mentoring Program is available to all, regardless of experience and is tailored to your specific needs. Contact me directly for further details.

Dr. Small

Quantum Health

[Guest guest]

Yes there are still a few slots available in the Remote Mentoring Program as they filling up fast. Please contact me directly via my email for further info.

Dr. Small

Quantum Health

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. Small,

when i went to contact you directly i got the email back saying your mailbox is full.

Dwight

Re: MS

Yes there are still a few slots available in the Remote Mentoring Program as they filling up fast. Please contact me directly via my email for further info.

Dr. Small

Quantum Health

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[Guest guest]

The Remote Clinical Mentoring Program is conducted via Live Internet Connection and uses your more complicated clients/patients as the test subjects for learning. It functions similar to an "internship program" you find in most healthcare professions. As an advanced SCIO Instructor, I have found this to be the most needed part of EPFX/SCIO education that often, is the most overlooked. It allows you to achieve consistently better results in your treatment protocols. There is no charge for the Practitioner. Contact me directly via email for further details, as their are a few slots remaining in my schedule.

Dr. Small

Quantum Health

310-305-7223

[Guest guest]

There is an article in the Daily Telegraph about a new treatment for MS in the

Health section.  It looks invasive and costly and moderately successful, unlike

LDN.  I wrote about LDN in the comments section and it has not been posted on

the site.  How about inundating the comments section with posts about LDN?

MacGilchrist (aka xassandra)