Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn,

Sounds like you need to call around to all of the OT and PT offices

in your area to find out who will offer these services for Marty.

Tell them you are looking for the services and that you are unable

to do the treatment at home. They always give you " homework " to do

at home, but I have found with they are usually small things!

Also see if there is a Mental Health Agency in you area that may be

able to assist you getting what he needs, they actually offer many

different services that you problay have never thought of.

Sometimes it may be as simple as coming and taking Marty to a local

park for an hour that may give you a much needed break!

just started on the Depokote, and last week we had to get the

blood work for his levels! Man did that technician own her pay! He

was so anxious about the needle I thought he was actually going to

pass out, the tech had to call in 3 other tech's, to help, he

kicked, swore and threatened. For me I knew it was the anxiety for

him, but you should have seen those people, they had NO idea what to

do or think!

Yes my mom ended up keeping until last night. It was a good

break for me, but in so many ways it was hard, I never have

away from me for more then hours. So I constantly worried about

what was going on, then Tuesday night my mom made Spaghetti and she

cut up 's, well number one eating rule, NEVER cut the

spaghetti! Of course she had no way of knowing this, one of those

things I just know and never thought to tell her! Well major

anxiety, screaming, couldn't breathe, couldn't talk and just

couldn't function. My poor mom had no idea why and called me

hysterically! As soon as she said she gave him Spaghetti and when

he took a bite, he started flipping out. I knew she had cut the

Spaghetti, I don;t think she'll ever do that again! lol!

About our moving, well let's see, right now we will be moving in

with my baby sister and her husband! 4 of us, a dog, 2 cats, a

turtle and a fish! We had been renting a house for the past 6 1/2

years and the landlord sold it, new owners are tearing it down for a

parking lot. The rents are even higher then a mortgage right now,

so we have decided to buy, but we lost the house we were going to

buy and until we find something else we will be at my sister's.

Hopefully in the next month or so we will find a house!

> Hi Chrissy,

>

> Thanks for the suggestion, I know I really do need to

> push for OT for Marty. We took him once to a PT and OT and

> they did an assessment. I wanted him on a regular program

> where he could go in or they could come to my house and do

> the exercises with him, but instead they showed me how to do

> them, and now I don't remember. As if I don't have enough to

> do! He has good medical insurance including Medicare so I

> don't see why those trained in this can't do it, they are

> the ones who went to school to learn it! And now one of his

> ankles is getting really swollen from contractures, or

> whatever the doctor called them.

>

> Yes, I think I will make an appointment to bring him to

> the doctor this week, he needs his Depokote levels checked

> anyway, they have to take his blood twice a year to see that

> his liver is functioning o.k. and it has been awhile. Last

> night he had a seizure when we were driving along. At this

> time of year when the sun starts drifting more to the south,

> it is at a slant where if there are trees along the way it

> blinks in his eyes and makes him have a seizure. We always

> go out around 6:00 just to get out of the house, and it is

> like this every year. Should go later or earlier. It does

> not do it when it is cloudy.

>

> That is really good your mom is doing so well with

> taking care of so you can pack. Where are you moving

> too. She sounds like a strong woman, like you!

>

> Oh my mom, well yes she is 86 now and I really do admire

> her very much, always have, and what it is with her is her

> personality. I looked up narcissistic personality disorder

> once and found she has quite a few of the personality traits

> listed! So As long as I remember this and just don't

> challenge her on any of her opinions we get along fine. I

> don't get much in the way of personal attention, but at

> least we don't fight. haha I slipped up the other day and

> wanted something for myself. In fact I point blank asked her

> for it, said, " Why don't I get any validation for what I do

> for you? " And she said, " Why do you need it? "

>

> And I said, " Well because you're my mother. " But I don't

> think she got it, has never gotten it, has just looked at me

> like I am a problem to her, and I guess by needing anything

> FROM her I have been. But as long as I don't need it, we do

> fine. But BOY does she need it from my end, personal

> validation. Oh boy howdy!

>

> I try to keep a sense of humor. I have to hustle now to

> go and pick up the kids for swimming. It does not do my head

> any good to sit inside a building with a chlorinated pool,

> and also last night there was so much smoke in the air I

> actually woke up and felt like I couldn't breath and it was

> hard going back to sleep after that. There are forest fires

> around here and farmers burning their fields, they do it

> every year. Sigh.

>

> Talk to you soon, pray you are having a good day

> packing!

> Love,

> Carolyn

> Terms of Service.

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

~tight squeeze~ Memories keep me company on days I am feeling alone... There

are so many that I have loved and admired that have passed, but the

memories... they will never die!!! ~sweet smiles~ Out of three pregnancies

and two live births, I have only my son... I love kids and would have

enjoyed all three... or more... which I guess is why I adopt the world!

~winks~ I also had the wonderful opportunity to grow up with a loving and

accepting mom, one who was supportive even though I was " different " , one who

never made me feel like " less of a person " or " incomplete " . She died 10

years ago yesterday, and boy do I miss her... My son only got to know her

for the first 4 years of his life, yet he remembers her loving acceptance

and talks about her to this day... She was a junior high school teacher, one

that kids adored whether they were " normal " or " challenged " . She never

thought that kids with difficulties were " problems " , but treated them with

respect and as kids that just needed a bit more love and support than the

others... It was no wonder that the town grieved over her death (cancer took

her too soon) When times are really tough, I try and remember what she

would have done in my place... It often leads me to a solution that helps

the kids I work with (as well as my own) But man do I miss her!!! Yet, I

have comfort in the idea that my babies have someone special up there in

heaven with them... I guess it is just one of those days for me too....

Congratulations on your grandkids swimming abilities!!! It is so neat that

you have such a close and caring relationship with them! To be so connected

is a real blessing for all of you... That is the way I want to be with my

grandkids (when I have them) My kids are pretty much missing out on the

" grandma " ideal, as my mom is gone and my husband's mother is abusive and

often too out of control for us to visit... My dad tries to play all

grandparent roles, but it is hard on him as he has Parkinson's and is having

continuous problems with it... I wish my daughter could have seen my parents

both healthy (or my mom at all). Though she is adopted, she is so much like

my mom that it often amazes me. My husband has often wondered if their

spirits met in heaven before she was born... She knows so much about mom

without asking and has picked up many phrases that only my mom used (which

startles the whole family!!!) Even her interests, her abilities, her

learning style... they are all just like my mother... I thank God for giving

her to me... I couldn't have asked for a better daughter!!!

Ted sounds like a real blessing. It is so wonderful that he is getting so

much attention and that you are reveling in his development... Man, if I

could ask one thing for the babies of the world, it is that they have the

same experiences that you are giving Ted at a young age!!!

Thank you Carolyn, for giving me a place to share and a shoulder that

understands... You are truly one of a kind!!!

~hugs~

Rabecca

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

~tight squeeze~ Memories keep me company on days I am feeling alone... There

are so many that I have loved and admired that have passed, but the

memories... they will never die!!! ~sweet smiles~ Out of three pregnancies

and two live births, I have only my son... I love kids and would have

enjoyed all three... or more... which I guess is why I adopt the world!

~winks~ I also had the wonderful opportunity to grow up with a loving and

accepting mom, one who was supportive even though I was " different " , one who

never made me feel like " less of a person " or " incomplete " . She died 10

years ago yesterday, and boy do I miss her... My son only got to know her

for the first 4 years of his life, yet he remembers her loving acceptance

and talks about her to this day... She was a junior high school teacher, one

that kids adored whether they were " normal " or " challenged " . She never

thought that kids with difficulties were " problems " , but treated them with

respect and as kids that just needed a bit more love and support than the

others... It was no wonder that the town grieved over her death (cancer took

her too soon) When times are really tough, I try and remember what she

would have done in my place... It often leads me to a solution that helps

the kids I work with (as well as my own) But man do I miss her!!! Yet, I

have comfort in the idea that my babies have someone special up there in

heaven with them... I guess it is just one of those days for me too....

Congratulations on your grandkids swimming abilities!!! It is so neat that

you have such a close and caring relationship with them! To be so connected

is a real blessing for all of you... That is the way I want to be with my

grandkids (when I have them) My kids are pretty much missing out on the

" grandma " ideal, as my mom is gone and my husband's mother is abusive and

often too out of control for us to visit... My dad tries to play all

grandparent roles, but it is hard on him as he has Parkinson's and is having

continuous problems with it... I wish my daughter could have seen my parents

both healthy (or my mom at all). Though she is adopted, she is so much like

my mom that it often amazes me. My husband has often wondered if their

spirits met in heaven before she was born... She knows so much about mom

without asking and has picked up many phrases that only my mom used (which

startles the whole family!!!) Even her interests, her abilities, her

learning style... they are all just like my mother... I thank God for giving

her to me... I couldn't have asked for a better daughter!!!

Ted sounds like a real blessing. It is so wonderful that he is getting so

much attention and that you are reveling in his development... Man, if I

could ask one thing for the babies of the world, it is that they have the

same experiences that you are giving Ted at a young age!!!

Thank you Carolyn, for giving me a place to share and a shoulder that

understands... You are truly one of a kind!!!

~hugs~

Rabecca

[Guest guest]

Hi Rabecca,

I was so sorry to hear that your mother passed away, and that you miss her so much on the tenth anniversary of her passing. Let me give you a tight hug right now too to comfort you. And to learn that you have lost two little babies also, that has to be so hard for you to endure, but I do agree that you can be encourage because they most assuredly are safely in Heaven in the arms of their grandma, waiting patiently for you to join them one day.

I love the way you write in such an uplifting and encouraging way, and believe you are one of a kind also. Thank you for saying that. My prayers will be with you and your husband, and son, and little daughter. May God bless you all in a very special way, and I know He will!

Love,

Carolyn

RE: Carolyn

Carolyn,~tight squeeze~ Memories keep me company on days I am feeling alone... Thereare so many that I have loved and admired that have passed, but thememories... they will never die!!! ~sweet smiles~ Out of three pregnanciesand two live births, I have only my son... I love kids and would haveenjoyed all three... or more... which I guess is why I adopt the world!~winks~ I also had the wonderful opportunity to grow up with a loving andaccepting mom, one who was supportive even though I was "different", one whonever made me feel like "less of a person" or "incomplete". She died 10years ago yesterday, and boy do I miss her... My son only got to know herfor the first 4 years of his life, yet he remembers her loving acceptanceand talks about her to this day... She was a junior high school teacher, onethat kids adored whether they were "normal" or "challenged". She neverthought that kids with difficulties were "problems", but treated them withrespect and as kids that just needed a bit more love and support than theothers... It was no wonder that the town grieved over her death (cancer tookher too soon) When times are really tough, I try and remember what shewould have done in my place... It often leads me to a solution that helpsthe kids I work with (as well as my own) But man do I miss her!!! Yet, Ihave comfort in the idea that my babies have someone special up there inheaven with them... I guess it is just one of those days for me too....Congratulations on your grandkids swimming abilities!!! It is so neat thatyou have such a close and caring relationship with them! To be so connectedis a real blessing for all of you... That is the way I want to be with mygrandkids (when I have them) My kids are pretty much missing out on the"grandma" ideal, as my mom is gone and my husband's mother is abusive andoften too out of control for us to visit... My dad tries to play allgrandparent roles, but it is hard on him as he has Parkinson's and is havingcontinuous problems with it... I wish my daughter could have seen my parentsboth healthy (or my mom at all). Though she is adopted, she is so much likemy mom that it often amazes me. My husband has often wondered if theirspirits met in heaven before she was born... She knows so much about momwithout asking and has picked up many phrases that only my mom used (whichstartles the whole family!!!) Even her interests, her abilities, herlearning style... they are all just like my mother... I thank God for givingher to me... I couldn't have asked for a better daughter!!!Ted sounds like a real blessing. It is so wonderful that he is getting somuch attention and that you are reveling in his development... Man, if Icould ask one thing for the babies of the world, it is that they have thesame experiences that you are giving Ted at a young age!!!Thank you Carolyn, for giving me a place to share and a shoulder thatunderstands... You are truly one of a kind!!!~hugs~Rabecca

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/12/04 8:05:28 AM Central Daylight Time, Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes:

charper777@...

Carolyn

Hi my friend.

Your link did not work for the JESUS is the ANSWER web group. I think that was the

name. The link you gave me went to email. Do I sign up by sending a letter in email to that address?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The link to the group I told you about is:

JesusIsTheAnswer

I just tried it and it worked.

Let me know.

Carolyn

Re: carolyn

In a message dated 9/12/04 8:05:28 AM Central Daylight Time, Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes:

charper777@... CarolynHi my friend.Your link did not work for the JESUS is the ANSWER web group. I think that was the name. The link you gave me went to email. Do I sign up by sending a letter in email to that address?Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The link to the group I told you about is:

JesusIsTheAnswer

I just tried it and it worked.

Let me know.

Carolyn

Re: carolyn

In a message dated 9/12/04 8:05:28 AM Central Daylight Time, Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes:

charper777@... CarolynHi my friend.Your link did not work for the JESUS is the ANSWER web group. I think that was the name. The link you gave me went to email. Do I sign up by sending a letter in email to that address?Thanks

[Guest guest]

> harshly. Maybe you won't need to. But your #1 need

> is a scale. You won't know if you are making progress

> otherwise. Sign up for nurse s weight loss

> newsletters. They are good. Her web address is:

>

> Good Luck.

>

>

This I don't necessarily agree with. The problem with scales is

that every weight loss plan has plateaus. You see it on the

scale and get discouraged. The best way to determine progress is

how you feel and how your clothes fit. You can weigh the same

and be wearing a smaller size. Muscle weighs more than fat.

[Guest guest]

,

I found your post so helpful; I thank you. You're right, the carbs are

causing me problems. Rye toast has been calling to me. I put 160 as an

interim goal for now for a few reasons -- if I aim for more, I won't get

any; my doctor says he's happy with what I've achieved thus far (coming down

from 260+); I've never been a " normal " weight as an adult, so I don't know

where I should be just yet. Couple of questions:

1. I eat only three times a day, no snacks. If I'm supposed to be eating

fruits, when would I eat them? I've been wondering if three fruits a day is

too much (I think I asked that on my original post).

2. You mentioned eating meat for breakfast. May I ask what types and how

they are prepared? I do eat all sorts of proteins for breakfast, but I run

out of inspiration with simply meat.

I've already cut tofu out of my meal plan. I'm wary of having too much beef

because heart problems and high cholesterol run in my family (and I'm

already on cholesterol medication -- it was once 360, now it's in the 130s).

That's why I rely on chicken as much as I do. I also other people in my

family who get very testy if they eat the same things repeatedly, so I have

to try to mix things up a bit (and they're not Os, but As).

Thanks for your help!

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

> I've already cut tofu out of my meal plan. I'm wary of having

too much beef

> because heart problems and high cholesterol run in my family

(and I'm

> already on cholesterol medication -- it was once 360, now it's

in the 130s).

>

> Carolyn

That was my cholesterol before the diet. After 3 months it went

to 187. With all the red meat I can stand. And yes, high

cholesterol runs in my family too. You may find you don't need

the medication once you've been on the diet for awhile.

[Guest guest]

According to , for O types cholesterol is " OK " up to 350

ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com

Re: Carolyn

> I've already cut tofu out of my meal plan. I'm wary of having

too much beef

> because heart problems and high cholesterol run in my family

(and I'm

> already on cholesterol medication -- it was once 360, now it's

in the 130s).

>

> Carolyn

That was my cholesterol before the diet. After 3 months it went

to 187. With all the red meat I can stand. And yes, high

cholesterol runs in my family too. You may find you don't need

the medication once you've been on the diet for awhile.

[Guest guest]

To All Canadians on This LIst,

Does anyone know the conversion factor for calculating American measurement of

cholesterol to Canadian? I used to have it on my old computer that was stolen

and now I can't find it anywhere.

Regards,

Sharon (Ontario) Canada

Re: Carolyn

> I've already cut tofu out of my meal plan. I'm wary of having

too much beef

> because heart problems and high cholesterol run in my family

(and I'm

> already on cholesterol medication -- it was once 360, now it's

in the 130s).

>

> Carolyn

That was my cholesterol before the diet. After 3 months it went

to 187. With all the red meat I can stand. And yes, high

cholesterol runs in my family too. You may find you don't need

the medication once you've been on the diet for awhile.

[Guest guest]

>According to , for O types cholesterol is " OK " up to 350

Yeah, that may be, but when my father died of heart disease, and all four of

his brothers died of heart disease, and my mother has heart disease, I don't

know that I want to take that kind of chance.

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Make sure you get tested for other indicative risk factors besides just

cholesterol.

Homocysteine

C-Reactive protein

LipoProtein A

Cholesterol is usually a minor indicator. What is your HDL and Triglycerides?

Kathy

CK <ckc@...> wrote:

>According to , for O types cholesterol is " OK " up to 350

Yeah, that may be, but when my father died of heart disease, and all four of

his brothers died of heart disease, and my mother has heart disease, I don't

know that I want to take that kind of chance.

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Make sure you get tested for other indicative risk factors besides just

cholesterol.

Homocysteine

C-Reactive protein

LipoProtein A

Cholesterol is usually a minor indicator. What is your HDL and Triglycerides?

Kathy

CK <ckc@...> wrote:

>According to , for O types cholesterol is " OK " up to 350

Yeah, that may be, but when my father died of heart disease, and all four of

his brothers died of heart disease, and my mother has heart disease, I don't

know that I want to take that kind of chance.

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

> What is your HDL and Triglycerides?

I don't have the numbers in front of me (can't find the latest report), but

I have the tests done every six months, and they are exactly where they are

supposed to be -- wherever they're supposed to be under, they're under,

wherever they're supposed to be over, they're over, etc.

But this is after years on a pretty careful diet and medication. I haven't

been tested since going on this meal plan, and it should be interesting to

see how all this beef, eggs, and ghee is affecting me.

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Good suggestion. I'm one of those that doesn't do well with a

big breakfast. So generally that is when I have a couple prunes

etc.

> Try 2 meals and a snack. Make the snack(light meal) with your

fruit and some nuts.

> Some people don't do big breakfast well. Make that your light

meal -- if it will hold you until lunch. Then big protein/vege

lunch & supper w/o fruit.

> Just a suggestion

> Kathy

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

At first, I just wanted to believe my son was okay... then " special " ... then

" gifted " ... Okay, so he was " a little quirky " ... I began making excuses for

his inability to be " normal " and really had myself convinced it was nothing

since the doctors and other " professionals " just thought him a bit " odd " ...

Yet, we couldn't continue burying our heads by the time he hit 3rd grade...

Finally, the doctors saw it was serious enough to approve testing... and

guess what??? I crashed big time!!! All of a sudden, I had to face the fact

that my son would never be " normal " that his behaviors weren't just because

he was smart or quirky, but that they were deficits, imperfections as the

world saw them. I was devastated... Yet, the more I got to know about AS,

the more I realized that not all the traits were undesirable, the more

accepting I became. I watched this kid work so hard to overcome his

challenges... and he continues to work on them primarily because of the

support and feedback he gets here at home for his efforts... I couldn't be

prouder of him... and yes, I am glad he has AS because he has made those

around him better people and has inspired us to continue to strive to

overcome our own obstacles...

~hugs~

Rabecca

Wow Rabecca,

I really enjoyed your story about your son Tyler! It was

wonderful to read, was very uplifting and an encouragement

to all of us. He is so fortunate to have you, and you him!

Good job mom, and son!

I could relate to the part about it being a " grieving

process " to accept what you cannot change. I went through

that, but don't feel bad about it anymore like I used to. So

I guess it was indeed a process.

Love,

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn,

I'v been very lucky that my health visitor and practice nurse are very

supportive and have given me a lot of help, i started to notice that somthing

was not quite right with my son when he was about 9mths old, and by the time

he was 18mths i was at my witts end with him, everyday tasks such as dressing,

feeding going out were becoming more and more of a nightmare the health

visitor called round weekly for many months to observe his behaviour and tried

different tactics to see if we could curb his demanding behaviour but it soon

became aparent to her that there was somthing wrong, so she reffered him to a

specialist health visitor and has pushed to get my him assessed,

My son has been at nursary since last september, i know what you

mean about teachers not having a clue, i feel like im banging my head against a

brick wall when it comes to talking to his teacher,he holds it together most

days and saves his melt downs till he gets home, because of this She seems to

think that his behaviour is only a problem when im around and that its

" nonsence " on my sons part, but yet the class room assistant has made a note of

quite a few instances when he has had a melt down at school, we are back with

the

specialist next week so im hoping that i can get him to get in touch with the

school and bring them up to speed on a/s,

I hope you manage to get Jordan the education he deserves, it's too bad that

we have to fight to get decent schooling for our children,

sue

[Guest guest]

Mine is August...when is yours? We can't afford to be superstitious,

can we?

Jo

> >

> > My theory of the give and receive question is

> > Pass it on ...

> > I am, by nature a giver. I get FAR more out of giving to others

> than

> > receiving. I drive my family nuts at Christmas, because I keep

> > forgetting to open my gifts until I see other reactions.

> > I know that sometimes, when I try to help someone out, I am going

> to

> > encounter an embarrasment or almost refusal .... so

> > When I approach the situation, I start by telling the

> person ... " in

> > the past, I needed help and someone stepped up ... I could never

> pay

> > them back, so I am just passing it on. Please, when you can offer

> > help of ANY KIND to someone, that is what I want you to do ...

Pass

> > it on. Eventually, it will make the circle. "

> > That really seems to help. Sometimes I get a call out of the blue

> > from someone who calls me to tell me that they just passed on my

> > kindness. That has happened 3 times and it is so much better than

> > getting something in return.

> > I think I inherited this from my mother.

> >

> > This is really off topic and very personal, but I think it

fits ...

> > I am one of 14 children (No. 13 to be exact born on a Friday)

> > When I was 7, my father died of cancer. That Christmas was so

> > difficult for my mother, and she did not know what she was going

to

> > do. On Christmas Eve, we had gone to bed and my mother was

sitting

> > in the livingroom when there was a knock at the door. A man asked

> > her if the kids were in bed. She said yes. He explained he was

> from

> > the St. De Society of our Church and would like to

> bring

> > in some gifts.

> > 4 people brought a complete Turkey Dinner for Christmas and 3

gifts

> > for each of us wrapped. Also 3 gifts for my mother. She said they

> > were there less than 10 minutes, and she was so overwhelmed that

> she

> > is not sure she thanked them enough (knowing my mom, I am

POSITIVE

> > she did).

> > The following morning was unbelievable. My Mom watched us open

> gifts

> > she had no part of picking, and she never forgot the kindness of

> > strangers.

> > All my mothers life, she did little stuff for people. She could

> > never afford to give money, but she would wrap Christmas Gifts

for

> > friends when they had sickness in their house, took kids and

> watched

> > them, cleaned a room, did all kinds of " little stuff " that did

not

> > seem like much. She always encouraged us to do that too .. go to

> the

> > store for a neighbor and NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING for it! I asked her

> > what this was all about, and she told me, she was just trying

> > to " Pass on the kindness of strangers. "

> > That made a HUGE impact on my life. I think I have also passed

> that

> > on to my kids, I know they are very kind adults.

> > If we could only get this to be a real movement, perhaps the

world

> > would not be so violent and disturbing.

> > Just Pass On A Kindness ... you never know where it will lead!

> > Thank you Mom!

> >

> > Overly sentimental Kathie in Pittsburgh

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was a lefty until I was about 6 years old. My Dad thought being

left handed would make life more difficult, so he " reinforced " use

of the right hand.

Jo

> > >

> > > My theory of the give and receive question is

> > > Pass it on ...

> > > I am, by nature a giver. I get FAR more out of giving to

others

> > than

> > > receiving. I drive my family nuts at Christmas, because I keep

> > > forgetting to open my gifts until I see other reactions.

> > > I know that sometimes, when I try to help someone out, I am

going

> > to

> > > encounter an embarrasment or almost refusal .... so

> > > When I approach the situation, I start by telling the

> > person ... " in

> > > the past, I needed help and someone stepped up ... I could

never

> > pay

> > > them back, so I am just passing it on. Please, when you can

offer

> > > help of ANY KIND to someone, that is what I want you to do ...

> Pass

> > > it on. Eventually, it will make the circle. "

> > > That really seems to help. Sometimes I get a call out of the

blue

> > > from someone who calls me to tell me that they just passed on

my

> > > kindness. That has happened 3 times and it is so much better

than

> > > getting something in return.

> > > I think I inherited this from my mother.

> > >

> > > This is really off topic and very personal, but I think it

> fits ...

> > > I am one of 14 children (No. 13 to be exact born on a Friday)

> > > When I was 7, my father died of cancer. That Christmas was so

> > > difficult for my mother, and she did not know what she was

going

> to

> > > do. On Christmas Eve, we had gone to bed and my mother was

> sitting

> > > in the livingroom when there was a knock at the door. A man

asked

> > > her if the kids were in bed. She said yes. He explained he was

> > from

> > > the St. De Society of our Church and would like to

> > bring

> > > in some gifts.

> > > 4 people brought a complete Turkey Dinner for Christmas and 3

> gifts

> > > for each of us wrapped. Also 3 gifts for my mother. She said

they

> > > were there less than 10 minutes, and she was so overwhelmed

that

> > she

> > > is not sure she thanked them enough (knowing my mom, I am

> POSITIVE

> > > she did).

> > > The following morning was unbelievable. My Mom watched us open

> > gifts

> > > she had no part of picking, and she never forgot the kindness

of

> > > strangers.

> > > All my mothers life, she did little stuff for people. She

could

> > > never afford to give money, but she would wrap Christmas Gifts

> for

> > > friends when they had sickness in their house, took kids and

> > watched

> > > them, cleaned a room, did all kinds of " little stuff " that did

> not

> > > seem like much. She always encouraged us to do that too .. go

to

> > the

> > > store for a neighbor and NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING for it! I asked

her

> > > what this was all about, and she told me, she was just trying

> > > to " Pass on the kindness of strangers. "

> > > That made a HUGE impact on my life. I think I have also passed

> > that

> > > on to my kids, I know they are very kind adults.

> > > If we could only get this to be a real movement, perhaps the

> world

> > > would not be so violent and disturbing.

> > > Just Pass On A Kindness ... you never know where it will lead!

> > > Thank you Mom!

> > >

> > > Overly sentimental Kathie in Pittsburgh

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I second that one Carolyn - it's so hard to put them down. I cried so hard when I had my devil dog put to sleep 18 months ago that I got the vet tech crying too!

{{{{Hugs}}}}

-------------- Original message -------------- From: fitgrl222@...

In a message dated 3/13/2006 12:27:44 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time, pvisser@... writes:

i hope that he and i will be together again some day and he will be in perfect health and happy, like he used to be.

Oh Carolyn! Anytime I hear anything about losing a pet it goes right to my heart. To me, they are all little 4 legged toddlers. I had a dog for 16 years. She went through so many hard times with me growing up and as she aged her teeth got really bad, to the point where she was in pain everyday. She couldn't see anything and was just getting old. I had to make that very difficult decision to put her to sleep also and it was the hardest thing I ever had to do. I loved her so much and still miss her. Like you, I KNOW I will see her again someday. I thought of her the other day and I can see my sister playing with her in heaven.

I'm sure you are doing the right thing.

I'm so sorry you have to do this. I'm hear if you need to talk about it.

[Guest guest]

hi michelle, thankyou so much for your kind words. i appreciate them

very much. it has been a very difficult day. it is 4pm and the vet

still hasnt gotten here yet i had to make a tent with a table

and a tarp to keep my dog out of the pouring rain this afternoon....

he has collapsed on the patio and cant get up. i called the vet to

see when the heck they are going to get here and it atwont be here

for least another hour yet. i feel so bad to see him suffer.... i

hope that she hurries and is here sooner.

:*carolyn.

[Guest guest]

kvetro60@... wrote:

> I second that one Carolyn - it's so hard to put them down. I cried so

> hard when I had my devil dog put to sleep 18 months ago that I got

> the vet tech crying too!

thanks kath. im getting the female vet today.... i was kind of

hoping it would be a crusty old unemotional male vet who comes out

because i would probably not cry in front of him. with the young

female vet here, i will probably cry an even bigger ocean than the

one ive already created today.

:*carolyn.

[Guest guest]

Oh lordy Carolyn - I wish I could be up there with you. We could drink a toast to your doggy!

Kathy

-------------- Original message -------------- From: Carolyn or Visser <pvisser@...> kvetro60@... wrote:> I second that one Carolyn - it's so hard to put them down. I cried so > hard when I had my devil dog put to sleep 18 months ago that I got > the vet tech crying too!thanks kath. im getting the female vet today.... i was kind of hoping it would be a crusty old unemotional male vet who comes out because i would probably not cry in front of him. with the young female vet here, i will probably cry an even bigger ocean than the one ive already created today.:*carolyn.