RE: Vit D/ showering/heavy metals/LDN

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that, I never knew that the soap was the problem.I have mercury poisoning & allergies and certainly have had side effects when taking LDN. But I have persisted & think I am finally through the wood.I would like to try the Inverted Bed Therapy and put 2 " high blocks under my bed, but knowing that the body detoxes heavy metals from the brain at night I am concerned that blocks raising the feet would be counterproductive. Can I raise my head?Trish Per the statement " The problem with vit D and sunbathing is that if you take a shower and especially with soap.there is no production of vit Dhttp://www.giveitto meraw.com/ forum/topics/ want-vitamin- d-dont-take-a " I read the rest of that messageboard, it's the soap that's the problem, not the showering. Seems that just using soap on armpits and the privates is ok and won't prevent re-absorption of D3 from the skin.However, for folks that have heavy metal poisoning (like me), we HAVE to scrub our bodies immediately after building up a good sweat - the fat soluble metals come out in your sweat when you use a sauna, for instance, and lead comes out of your bones if your sweat is from heavy physical activity, again released in sweat. I finally figured this out over a year ago when I noticed that every time I built up a sweat doing chores inside/outside and didn't shower immediately I'd feel like crud that night and the next day - the metals were re-absorbed into my body, and were now circulating in my blood stream instead of being bound in my tissues/bones. Confirmed my suspicions doing research online in various websites explaining how to use Far Infrared Saunas for heavy metal detoxing. I also take either a couple tabs of Chlorella or Activated Charcoal whenever I use my gym's hot tub to capture the mobilized metals.Of course since I started LDN I haven't built up a sweat once, been incapacitated for the most part....so badly that after a month my doc told me yesterday to take a one week break to allow my body to stabilize before resuming it. I had a nasty candida flare-up (tamed, but not completely gone yet), then I caught some kind of cold/virus near the end of last week (apparently some bug is making the rounds right now, keep your hand sanitizer at the ready!) - my body and brain were totally overwhelmed trying to deal with everything all at once. Every organ was screaming from the LDN and detox stresses - spleen, gall bladder, liver, pancreas, kidneys, adrenals, heart, lungs.....you name it, everything was failing or functioning poorly. I actually might wait 2 weeks before resuming LDN, for two reasons: 1) I've seen noticeable improvements in some areas literally overnite since reading about Inverted Bed Therapy and putting 2 " high blocks under my bed, I want to get at least one LDN-free week in to see how much better things get, and 2) I have a leftover box of NutriClean, a 7-day whole body detox/cleansing treatment - I've had good results with the product in the past, want to be as " clean " as possible before restarting LDN, hopefully I won't suffer as badly on the second go-round.I wonder if folks suffering from MCS, mold/pollen allergies, and especially heavy metal poisoning suffer more side effects when starting LDN because of how those toxins are intertwined with what the LDN is trying to do in our bodies? The metals in particular occupy certain cellular receptors in the brain and other organs/tissues, and that causes the immune system to malfunction amongst other nasty side effects....thoughts?

[Guest guest]

it's inclined, not inverted.

inverted would be you lay on the floor with the bed on top of you, wouldn't it?

i never tried the IBT but have read on various lists where folks do and many like it a lot.

i believe it IS the head that's raised, not the feet.... but now not 100% sure about that even.

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Trish KerbelSent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:07 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Vit D/ showering/heavy metals/LDN

Thanks for that, I never knew that the soap was the problem.

I have mercury poisoning & allergies and certainly have had side effects when taking LDN. But I have persisted & think I am finally through the wood.

I would like to try the Inverted Bed Therapy and put 2" high blocks under my bed, but knowing that the body detoxes heavy metals from the brain at night I am concerned that blocks raising the feet would be counterproductive. Can I raise my head?

Trish

Per the statement "The problem with vit D and sunbathing is that if you take a shower and especially with soap.there is no production of vit Dhttp://www.giveitto meraw.com/ forum/topics/ want-vitamin- d-dont-take-a"I read the rest of that messageboard, it's the soap that's the problem, not the showering. Seems that just using soap on armpits and the privates is ok and won't prevent re-absorption of D3 from the skin.However, for folks that have heavy metal poisoning (like me), we HAVE to scrub our bodies immediately after building up a good sweat - the fat soluble metals come out in your sweat when you use a sauna, for instance, and lead comes out of your bones if your sweat is from heavy physical activity, again released in sweat. I finally figured this out over a year ago when I noticed that every time I built up a sweat doing chores inside/outside and didn't shower immediately I'd feel like crud that night and the next day - the metals were re-absorbed into my body, and were now circulating in my blood stream instead of being bound in my tissues/bones. Confirmed my suspicions doing research online in various websites explaining how to use Far Infrared Saunas for heavy metal detoxing. I also take either a couple tabs of Chlorella or Activated Charcoal whenever I use my gym's hot tub to capture the mobilized metals.Of course since I started LDN I haven't built up a sweat once, been incapacitated for the most part....so badly that after a month my doc told me yesterday to take a one week break to allow my body to stabilize before resuming it. I had a nasty candida flare-up (tamed, but not completely gone yet), then I caught some kind of cold/virus near the end of last week (apparently some bug is making the rounds right now, keep your hand sanitizer at the ready!) - my body and brain were totally overwhelmed trying to deal with everything all at once. Every organ was screaming from the LDN and detox stresses - spleen, gall bladder, liver, pancreas, kidneys, adrenals, heart, lungs.....you name it, everything was failing or functioning poorly. I actually might wait 2 weeks before resuming LDN, for two reasons: 1) I've seen noticeable improvements in some areas literally overnite since reading about Inverted Bed Therapy and putting 2" high blocks under my bed, I want to get at least one LDN-free week in to see how much better things get, and 2) I have a leftover box of NutriClean, a 7-day whole body detox/cleansing treatment - I've had good results with the product in the past, want to be as "clean" as possible before restarting LDN, hopefully I won't suffer as badly on the second go-round.I wonder if folks suffering from MCS, mold/pollen allergies, and especially heavy metal poisoning suffer more side effects when starting LDN because of how those toxins are intertwined with what the LDN is trying to do in our bodies? The metals in particular occupy certain cellular receptors in the brain and other organs/tissues, and that causes the immune system to malfunction amongst other nasty side effects....thoughts?

[Guest guest]

The head of the

bed is elevated up to 6 degrees (with blocks under the head board) to assist in

blood drainage from the brain……..same concept as CCSVI…..it’s

a “plumbing” issue.

Bill

From:

low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of bob Larson

Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011

10:21 AM

To:

low dose naltrexone

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone]

Vit D/ showering/heavy metals/LDN

it's inclined, not inverted.

inverted would be you lay on the

floor with the bed on top of you, wouldn't it?

i never tried the IBT but have read on

various lists where folks do and many like it a lot.

i believe it IS the head that's raised,

not the feet.... but now not 100% sure about that even.

From:

low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Trish Kerbel

Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 10:07

PM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone]

Vit D/ showering/heavy metals/LDN

Thanks for that, I

never knew that the soap was the problem.

I have mercury

poisoning & allergies and certainly have had side effects when taking

LDN. But I have persisted & think I am finally through the wood.

I would like to

try the Inverted Bed Therapy and put 2 " high blocks under my bed, but

knowing that the body detoxes heavy metals from the brain at night I am

concerned that blocks raising the feet would be counterproductive. Can I

raise my head?

Trish

Per the

statement " The problem with vit D and sunbathing is that if you take a

shower and especially with soap.there is no production of vit D

http://www.giveitto meraw.com/ forum/topics/

want-vitamin- d-dont-take-a "

I read the rest of that messageboard, it's the soap that's the problem, not the

showering. Seems that just using soap on armpits and the privates is ok and

won't prevent re-absorption of D3 from the skin.

However, for folks that have heavy metal poisoning (like me), we HAVE to scrub

our bodies immediately after building up a good sweat - the fat soluble metals

come out in your sweat when you use a sauna, for instance, and lead comes out

of your bones if your sweat is from heavy physical activity, again released in

sweat.

I finally figured this out over a year ago when I noticed that every time I

built up a sweat doing chores inside/outside and didn't shower immediately I'd

feel like crud that night and the next day - the metals were re-absorbed into

my body, and were now circulating in my blood stream instead of being bound in

my tissues/bones. Confirmed my suspicions doing research online in various

websites explaining how to use Far Infrared Saunas for heavy metal detoxing. I

also take either a couple tabs of Chlorella or Activated Charcoal whenever I

use my gym's hot tub to capture the mobilized metals.

Of course since I started LDN I haven't built up a sweat once, been

incapacitated for the most part....so badly that after a month my doc told me

yesterday to take a one week break to allow my body to stabilize before

resuming it. I had a nasty candida flare-up (tamed, but not completely gone

yet), then I caught some kind of cold/virus near the end of last week

(apparently some bug is making the rounds right now, keep your hand sanitizer

at the ready!) - my body and brain were totally overwhelmed trying to deal with

everything all at once. Every organ was screaming from the LDN and detox stresses

- spleen, gall bladder, liver, pancreas, kidneys, adrenals, heart,

lungs.....you name it, everything was failing or functioning poorly.

I actually might wait 2 weeks before resuming LDN, for two reasons: 1) I've

seen noticeable improvements in some areas literally overnite since reading

about Inverted Bed Therapy and putting 2 " high blocks under my bed, I want

to get at least one LDN-free week in to see how much better things get, and 2)

I have a leftover box of NutriClean, a 7-day whole body detox/cleansing

treatment - I've had good results with the product in the past, want to be as

" clean " as possible before restarting LDN, hopefully I won't suffer

as badly on the second go-round.

I wonder if folks suffering from MCS, mold/pollen allergies, and especially

heavy metal poisoning suffer more side effects when starting LDN because of how

those toxins are intertwined with what the LDN is trying to do in our bodies?

The metals in particular occupy certain cellular receptors in the brain and

other organs/tissues, and that causes the immune system to malfunction amongst

other nasty side effects....thoughts?

[Guest guest]

" Trish Kerbel " pmkerbel@...

Wrote:

" I have mercury poisoning & allergies and certainly have had side effects

when taking LDN. But I have persisted & think I am finally through the wood(s).

I would like to try the Inverted Bed Therapy and put 2 " high blocks under my

bed, but knowing that the body detoxes heavy metals from the brain at night I am

concerned that blocks raising the feet would be counterproductive. Can I raise

my head? "

Sorry for some of the confusion I've caused here by using improper terminology

and acronyms for IBT folks, brain fog issues....

To answer Trish's question(s) and a couple others I just read:

1) From what I've read, yes, raising the *head* of your bed will increase the

rate of detoxing, whatever toxins you're dealing with. Do NOT raise the foot of

your bed, that is TERRIBLE for your health and will lead to muscle atrophy in

your legs, amongst other health problems.

2) Because of my heavy metal problems and bad back, I only raised the head of my

bed 2 " to start, and thank god that's all the further I went to start! For the

first few days I was really " out of it " , and my back muscles were very stiff in

the mornings until I moved around and stretched a bit (after 5 days that is gone

now) - I shudder to think what would have happened if I had gone straight to the

recommended 6 " all at once!

3) Someone mentioned that she thought ALA may have anti-inflammatory properties

- close, but not exactly accurate - L-Arginine (LA) increases the production of

nitric oxide, which in turn relaxes the blood vessel walls, which can help lower

your blood pressure. See:

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/herbsvitaminsad/a/Arginine.htm

4) Alpha-Lipoic Acid (ALA) is a powerful supplement with many uses, it's an

antioxidant, helps turn glucose into energy, helps diabetes related neuropathy

conditions, and chelates mercury. Holy cow....it also lowers blood sugar! From:

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/alpha-lipoic-000285.htm

" Alpha-lipoic acid can lower blood sugar levels, so people with diabetes or

hypoglycemia should take alpha-lipoic acid only under the supervision of their

doctor. "

I stopped taking ALA and LDN on Sunday, yesterday I felt FANTASTIC, brain

function was the best it's been in a LONG time, and no tachycardia after eating

dinner last night either...in fact, my BP and pulse stayed right around 115/70,

P ~ 70 from when I woke up until I went to bed! And according to this doctor,

I've been taking ALA improperly for years - from:

http://onibasu.com/articles/Mercury_Chelation/ALA.html

" ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid)

ALA is one of the three chelators recommended for mercury chelation. The others

are DMSA and DMPS. It is the only one of the these three that will remove

mercury from the brain.

What makes a chemical a GOOD mercury chelator?

Two thiol groups means a chelator will bind strongly to mercury and have a

higher probability that it can attach long enough to be excreted from the body.

Single thiol groups will attach weakly and end up causing further damage as it

just mobilizes mercury.

This is why compounds that mobilize mercury but don't chelate will make you feel

bad. Examples are whey protein powder (cysteine), glutathione, chlorella and

coriander.

Cutler recommends against older chelators such as BAL, penicillamine, and EDTA

and any protocols that do not respect the half life of ALA/DMSA/DMPS, as these

can cause permanent damage.

Examples are ANY IV-based protocols and 8 hour or daily ALA protocols. ALA has a

half life of 3 hours. DMPS is 8 hours, and DMSA is 4 hours. This means ALA must

be given every 3 hours for the safest outcome. See DMPS Backfire and Cutler's

chelation history for examples of bad protocols and the permanent damage that

can happen.

Evidence that ALA will chelate mercury

Cutler posted the abstract of a paper explaining how ALA chelates mercury in

rats, and gave his comments on it:

* ALA suppresses excretion of some things (zinc, organic mercury, cadmium,

copper), so there needs to be frequent breaks.

* Any recent exposure to mercury means waiting for it to convert from

organic to inorganic form, i.e. wait 3 months after amalgam removal. "

So it appears that I have been taking ALA improperly for years, one 600 mg dose

in the afternoon, and it also probably interfered with cadmium removal (lead,

cadmium, mercury, aluminum, nickel are my worst ones).

5) I saw my lymphatic system PT today, told her about it, she again insisted

that I comb through my list of supplements to see if any of the remaining ones

could be causing some of my health problems, and I found a mountain of new

information that many folks here will find quite useful (I think).

From http://onibasu.com/wiki/Cysteine_status

" Sulfur foods can worsen yeast issues " and " How to do a sulfur food exclusion

trial: Exclude all sulfur foods and supplements for one whole week. This

includes things like MSM, whey, anything containing milk, NAC "

" Symptoms of too much sulfur while high cysteine are:

    * emotional instability or volatility

    * depression, lethargy

    * motor difficulties, other cognitive issues

    * overactive immune system

I have been taking MSM since 1999 for my arthritic toes, and N-Acetyl-Cysteine

(NAC) for ~ 3-4 yrs for liver support. OOPS!

Another good page linking detoxing to yeast problems:

http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm

6) A good link for heavy metal detoxing (remember DO NOT DO THIS WITHOUT A

DOCTOR'S SUPERVISION!):

http://mercurytalk.com/wiki/index.php/Detoxing:Getting_Started_With_A_Detox_Plan\

#Mobilization_.28via_Chelation.29

7) Pretty decent metal detox products:

http://onlythebestherbs.com/how.php?sn=507-1

http://onlythebestherbs.com/Products/Algin/index.html

Think I'm going to get some Algin myself whenever I resume my metal detox

program to make sure I capture everything that gets mobilized. This is the

cheapest I found online:

http://www.greatestherbsonearth.com/nsp/algin.htm

Wow, did I learn alot today! GLTA, and BE SAFE!