Re: Bartonellosis/Bartonella

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Hi St

I did a little research on Bartonella as we suspected that my partner

had it - although so far have not had any tests for it.

You should also check forum Eurolyme - there are lots of pictures on

there of the bartonella rash which can look like stretch marks or

papules. I have also heard that foot pain is very common with

bartonella.

I found the following papers during the course of my research I think

these are all free full texts....

http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/519998

jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/279/7/532.pdf

www.journals.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/resolve?CIDv26p80PDF

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=97920

http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/46/5/811

Hope this is a start for you.

BW

Lara

http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/519998

>

> Hello

> please help!

> I need an understandable expanation of Bartonellosis.

>

> my doctor (who is an MD who practices Complementary and Alternative

> Medicine) diagnosed me yesterday with Bartonellosis based on the two

> western blots (both showed the 41 band). those tests were

> inconclusive but i've sick since september (or earlier) and had a

tick

> bite in June 2007. so we did an in-depth symptoms check list for

Lyme

> and then based on those results (where i checked off many) he

thought

> that Bartonellosis was the more likely cause of my illness so we

did a

> symptom check off list for that and i checked off most of those.

>

> so....i have no idea what Bartonellosis is. has anyone been

diagnosed

> with it? i've been googling it and am getting more confused. its a

> bacteria transmitted by ticks? some websites say its only caused by

> Peruvian sand flies/fleas. i can't find a simple explanation.

>

> Treatment is for 3 months at least with antibiotics: Rifampin,

> Azithromycin and Amoxicillin (taking the place of Doxycycline

because

> i'm allergic to it). if you've had Bartonellosis, how long was your

> treatment and recovery to feeling mostly " normal. "

>

> also, does anyone know if the Lyme Disease Diet applies to

> Bartonellosis...my doctor didn't mention it but i am assuming it

> applies since its treated with antibiotics like Lyme.

>

> any information on Bartonellosis would be greatly appreciated!

>

> thank you,

> St.

>

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Dear :

I think that chelation and antibiotics can both stress the body. Its

important to remember that we need to do things to compensate for side effects

of

these. Have you given her any minerals like colloidal minerals or from sea

plants/algae. Sometimes chelation moves toxins around rather than eliminating

them. Its difficult to do correctly, and each person may have varying

abilities to respond well to the chelation. Not sure why the antibiotics are

making her dizzy, but maybe a different one or lesser dose. Also, Culturelle

is a

probiotic that is noted for being able to take while on antibiotics.

Sometimes the antibiotics can harm the microflora in such a way that vitamins

and

minerals can not be well absorbed from food. Any lack in this area is enough

to cause all kinds of severe symptoms. It seems to me that if her problem

started right after chelation, than its very likely she is sufferring from

chelation back-fire. Its when the toxins are removed from the tissues and

redistributed to the brain. Buffered Vitamin C will give some relief for this,

as

well as cod liver oil. Chelating correctly or gently or very slowly can also

reverse the symptoms of chelation back-fire. I use Pectasol Chelation

Complex because I feel its the safest thing out there.

Heidi N

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[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Canlyme is trying to keep a 'thread' pure for the posting of Bartonella

information... Hopefully there is something of help for you. By reading through

all of the pages in each link you will find links to journals / articles as well

as some images that have been posted.

It can be accessed at:

http://canlyme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4126

Also, my positive results for Bartonella only came back from LLT-Melisa lab in

Germany - for both Cat Scratch and Trench Fever.

I am unaware of any North American labs testing for anything but 'Cat Scratch

Disease' and there are 5-commonly associated Bartonella strains. However, the

'new' strain recently discovered from the Peruvian Andes is called Bartonella

rochalimae - New bacterium discovered (

http://canlyme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3441 & highlight=bartonella+andes+califor\

nia ) and I've only seen the one reference to it but suspect that there are many

more people who may have it and not know it.

/ Charolette :-)

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Hi, . I replied to you via private email.

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