Re: medical advice

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Well there you go, Ok good luck

I did the right thing anyway,

It is posted on my site www.hbot4u.com

[ ] Re: Medical Advice

>I am assembling a checklist of items for everyone who purchases a

> chamber. The checklist will also be available to anyone who requests

> it. However, it will not be posted on my web site.

>

> Diane

>

>

>>

>> and I accept that you have agreed to post the contraindications

> and fire

>> safety aspects of HBOT on your site and to your customers.

>> I stand by my convictions but my choice of words are really poor! I

> am a

>> hard working woman and can be pretty blunt, just ask my husband !

> haha I

>> would not want to be married to me!! :-)

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> " So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find;

> knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives;

> he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. " [Luke

> 11: 9-10]

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

[Guest guest]

These reports on fires in hyperbaric oxygen chambers are sobering.  The lack of

knowledge of some of the people on this list who appear to be operating

chambers, about the physics of gases, among other things, is frankly appalling

to me. 

In my opinion, those who state that hyperbaric oxygen is completely harmless,

there are no potential dangers or side effects, and that operating a chamber

requires no training--all comments I've read on this site--are exposing a

dangerous level of ignorance.

I hope it is a red flag to those of you who are, thanks to the indifference of

our government by refusing to pay for HBOT, thus opening up the market for every

thing from well-run clinics to fly-by-night charlatains, in the unfortunate

position of having to sort out who's who and have to deal with such people.

I'm a physician and a certified PADI diver, and I have a lot of respect for the

potential dangers involved with hyperbaric oxygen, and the potential for the

bends, for example.

HBOT can and should be administered quite safely, but it does require a modicum

of education. I personally wouldn't consider operating a chamber without further

training. As a physician, I would consider it potential malpractice to do so.

And those of you who are so cavalier about flying after hyperbaric oxygen

treatment, are you so sure that the treatment received was really 100 percent

oxygen?  If an oxygen concentrator is used, I'd like to see the data as to how

much oxygen is delivered.  If a canister of pure 100 percent oxygen is used, 

even wearing a hood which is flooded with oxygen, the patient brathes out CO2,

which is mixed with the oxygen in the hood.  I don't know, because I haven't

researched the issue, but certainly some is reabsorbed.

a few people are blithely advising people how safe flying is after getting

hyperbaric oxygen, but will you be there if there's a problem?  Maybe it is

safe--in some circumstances--some of the time--but those of you who rely on

these blogs for information remember that you must consider the source.

When I was practicing medicine (I'm on disability and no longer practicing) I

often had patients who would comment, about one medical issue or another, " Oh,

they say it is safe. " or some variation on that.  I would ask, " and who are

'they?' "

 Many people seem to go along quite happily, relying on medical information from

a relative or next door neighbor, or  from actors on TV who appear to promote

one drug or another, paid by the drug company, with the explanation, " I'm not a

REAL doctor, but I play one on TV! "   If you are willing to believe an actor paid

by a drug company about the effectiveness and safety of the drug, do you deserve

what you get?  Not in my opinion, or I wouldn't be spending my time writing this

note!  The point of which is that the more medical knowledge I have, the more

aware I become of my limitations, and the more I realize how much I DON'T know.

I just had an exasperating conversation with my stepmother, who informed me that

my dad is taking Lipitor, which, she said, " is a steroid. "   After some

conversation, in which my husband contributed corroberative evidence, we were

able to explain to her that Lipitor is a STATIN, not a STEROID, and it is not

the same thing, even though they both start with an " ST. "

It is astonishing to imagine that anyone would be allowed to smoke a cigarette

near 100 percent oxygen, which appears to have been the cause of some of the

fires in foreign HBOT chambers, but I've seen, traveling in Mexico, a level of

ignorance  that has been a real education.

On a trip many years ago, my friend and I were approaching the open-air market

in San de de where, until that day,  we bought our meat, and

observed the proprietor vigorously spraying DDT around his booth, killing flies,

certainly, but also poisoning the exposed  hanging chickens.

It appears from the report about fires in hyperbaric chambers that many have

occurred in third world countries, where the level of education is likely to be

spotty.  You cannot underestimate the hazard created by such ignorance.  There

was a problem at one point with carbon monoxide poisoning to divers, because the

air which was being compressed into the dive tanks was positioned next to a

furnace or other machine which was emitting the poisonous gas.

I'm rambling a bit, but you can't assume safety from people who run an operation

without any education or training.  From reading some of the comments on this

list, and from my own experience, I know that  there are some wonderful

facilities available, but there are also, it would seem, some people who may be

well-intended, but dangerously underinformed, and possibly some people who just

see an opportunity to make money, who may or may not know what they're doing. 

We are unfortunately in the position of having to make decisions without always

having good information. Caveat emptor rules!  (Buyer beware!)

From: szymonski@... <szymonski@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Medical Advice

medicaid

Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 10:57 PM

Another thing to keep in mind: petroleum based products (lipstick,

chapstick, vaseline, etc) can spontaneously combust when exposed to 100% 02. I

have seen 2nd and 3rd degree burns from this. Please keep in mind when taking

or giving treatments.

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[ ] Re: Medical Advice

Title: HYPERBARIC CHAMBER FIRES: AN UPDATE

Issue Date: 1998

Abstract:

BACKGROUND: Previously reported were 77 human fatalities in 35

hyperbaric facility fires in Asia, Europe, and North America (1).

This is an update of the chamber fire report.

METHODS: Data were obtained from news reports, personal interview and

from the Undersea and Hyperbaric Medical Society (UHMS) Chamber

Experience and Mishap Database.

RESULTS: Five additional chamber fires resulted in 14 human

fatalities and 2 serious burn injuries. Smoking caused fires in 2

North American diving decompression chambers (1985, 1997) resulting

in 2 severely burned and one fatality, respectively. In 2 European

clinical chamber fires (1996, 1997), smoking caused 1 fatality, and a

gas-operated hand warmer caused 11 fatalities, respectively. The

percent oxygen in these air-filled chambers is unknown. One fatality

occurred in a Central American pure oxygen clinical chamber fire

(1997), caused by a child's friction toy. This brings the total of 91

known human fatalities from 40 hyperbaric facitity fires occurring

during 1923-1997.

CONCLUSION: Findings support our previous report that recent chamber

fires have been primarily caused by prohibited sources of ignition

that an occupant carried inside the chamber.

REFERENCE: Sheffield P.J., Desautels D.A. Hyperbaric and hypobaric

chamber fires: a 73-year analysis. Undersea Hyper Med 1997; 24(3):

153-164. Description: Undersea and Hyperbaric Medical Society, Inc.

http://archive. rubicon-foundati on.org/644

>

>

> Could someone please direct me to the documentation that supports

the below stated information: " That is why there have been numerous

hard chamber fires over the years, and no soft chamber fires " . Have

there actually been any documented incidences of blowing chambers

up? Please, I would be interested in reading the documentation.

> In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were there

fatalities?

> Respectfully,

> Judith Burkholder

[Guest guest]

These statistics are ten years (or more) old. So, what's been going on in the

last ten years?

Honestly, if I were working on a paper to be published or even a college term

paper (unless I was researching historical documentation), these references

would not be recognized as current.

Alot can happen in ten years, hopefully for the better. If there have been no

fires, injuries or fatalities in " North America " (which includes alot of country

besides the US), then our standards of practice are pretty great!

Respectfully,

Judith Burkholder

medicaid@...: diane@...: Tue, 23 Sep

2008 03:45:39 +0000Subject: [ ] Re: Medical Advice

Title: HYPERBARIC CHAMBER FIRES: AN UPDATE Issue Date: 1998 Abstract:

BACKGROUND: Previously reported were 77 human fatalities in 35 hyperbaric

facility fires in Asia, Europe, and North America (1). This is an update of the

chamber fire report. METHODS: Data were obtained from news reports, personal

interview and from the Undersea and Hyperbaric Medical Society (UHMS) Chamber

Experience and Mishap Database. RESULTS: Five additional chamber fires resulted

in 14 human fatalities and 2 serious burn injuries. Smoking caused fires in 2

North American diving decompression chambers (1985, 1997) resulting in 2

severely burned and one fatality, respectively. In 2 European clinical chamber

fires (1996, 1997), smoking caused 1 fatality, and a gas-operated hand warmer

caused 11 fatalities, respectively. The percent oxygen in these air-filled

chambers is unknown. One fatality occurred in a Central American pure oxygen

clinical chamber fire (1997), caused by a child's friction toy. This brings the

total of 91 known human fatalities from 40 hyperbaric facitity fires occurring

during 1923-1997. CONCLUSION: Findings support our previous report that recent

chamber fires have been primarily caused by prohibited sources of ignition that

an occupant carried inside the chamber. REFERENCE: Sheffield P.J., Desautels

D.A. Hyperbaric and hypobaric chamber fires: a 73-year analysis. Undersea Hyper

Med 1997; 24(3): 153-164. Description: Undersea and Hyperbaric Medical Society,

Inc. http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/644--- In

medicaid , judith burkholder <judith_burkholder@...>

wrote:>> > Could someone please direct me to the documentation that supports the

below stated information: " That is why there have been numerous hard chamber

fires over the years, and no soft chamber fires " . Have there actually been any

documented incidences of blowing chambers up? Please, I would be interested in

reading the documentation.> In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were

there fatalities?> Respectfully,> Judith Burkholder

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I totally agree.. and those of you who do.. should contact this portable

company and express your concerns with this rep. She could be instrumental in

someone's demise without proper training..IMO!

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In a message dated 9/23/2008 9:07:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

donna.bateman@... writes:

I know this is not my dance, but I have to agree with that I think

anyone selling chambers of any kind should have training---and lots of it.

There are protocols that are simple and easy to follow, but they can be

discarded or misinterpreted if they are not well understood. I know all the

chambers we've been in have had strict rules and if we even " bend " a

rule---they won't operate the chamber. No exceptions.

has been quite generous with information to me about specific

conditions and has not ever once tried to sell me on using her chambers.

You, Diane, have been sending me numerous unwanted emails about your

chambers. I have simply pressed " delete " and not complained. However, it

seems to me you are casting some stones that you have the appearance of

being guilty yourself.

I don't know how long you've been in the group, but I'd never heard of you

until you began to solicit selling me chambers. has been in the group

since before I joined and has never solicited me for any purpose.

That's just how it looks from the outside.

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:08 PM, hbotforhealth <_diane@..._

(mailto:diane@...) >wrote:

> I'm not a doctor, and neither are you. That's why neither of us are

> supposed to give medical advice. I'm happy to give suggestions to

> people who buy portable chambers, however, I don't sell chambers to

> people who are not under a doctor's care.

>

> I realize that as an operator of a hard chamber clinic, you lose tens

> of thousands of dollars in income each time someone buys a portable

> chamber for home use. Sadly, instead of thinking of what's best for

> your patients, you seem more concerned with your bottom line. Both

> hard chambers and soft chambers have a place in hyperbaric medicine.

>

> Some of the people I work with do an initial round 40 hard chamber

> dives and buy a portable chamber for long term follow up. I'm all for

> combining hard and soft HBOT if that is what a patient feels is best.

> It would be great if we could all work together for the benefit of the

> patients.

>

> Diane

>

>

>

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I hope you're not suggesting that we ignore the medical literature, throwing out

anything older than the past ten years?

 When oxygen is being used, it is important that people operating equipment are

well educated regarding potential fire hazards; one would hope the safety record

is good, but ten years is not that old in the medical literature.  In fact, when

I do research, on any medical subject, I go back as far as the literature

goes--I wrote a story on lead poisoning, and read everything I could find, going

back to Hippocrates, the Greek physician thought of as " the father of medicine, "

because of his method of making observations, and learning from them--something

that physicians and other scientists refer to as the scientific method.  All of

the literature is important and adds to the fund of knowledge. 

I don't know what bee you have in your bonnet, but the medical literature quoted

is valid, and I appreciate knowing about it.

Nor, by the way, does quoting that study say anything about the events since it

was published, so you cannot conclude that it somehow proves that the safety

record since that time has been excellent.  Maybe it has, maybe it hasn't--we

can't draw any inferences from a ten year old study about subsequent events.  I

worry about your logic.

>> > Could someone please direct me to the

documentation that supports the below stated information: " That is why there

have been numerous hard chamber fires over the years, and no soft chamber

fires " . Have there actually been any documented incidences of blowing chambers

up? Please, I would be interested in reading the

documentation. > In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were there

fatalities?> Respectfully, > Judith Burkholder

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There have been NO fires in the last 10 years.

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I hope you're not suggesting that we ignore the medical literature, throwing out

anything older than the past ten years?

 When oxygen is being used, it is important that people operating equipment are

well educated regarding potential fire hazards; one would hope the safety record

is good, but ten years is not that old in the medical literature.  In fact, when

I do research, on any medical subject, I go back as far as the literature

goes--I wrote a story on lead poisoning, and read everything I could find, going

back to Hippocrates, the Greek physician thought of as " the father of medicine, "

because of his method of making observations, and learning from them--something

that physicians and other scientists refer to as the scientific method.  All of

the literature is important and adds to the fund of knowledge. 

I don't know what bee you have in your bonnet, but the medical literature quoted

is valid, and I appreciate knowing about it.

Nor, by the way, does quoting that study say anything about the events since it

was published, so you cannot conclude that it somehow proves that the safety

record since that time has been excellent.  Maybe it has, maybe it hasn't--we

can't draw any inferences from a ten year old study about subsequent events.  I

worry about your logic.

>> > Could someone please direct me to the

documentation that supports the below stated information: " That is why there

have been numerous hard chamber fires over the years, and no soft chamber

fires " . Have there actually been any documented incidences of blowing chambers

up? Please, I would be interested in reading the

documentation. > In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were there

fatalities?> Respectfully, > Judith Burkholder

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Let's just be honest here. If the chambers are used and treated with the respect

they deserve they will be safe and effective.

 

First and foremost as long as you follow the rules of the chamber as with any

device they are safe and effective.

 

DO NOT ALTER THE CHAMBERS.  ONCE AGAIN DO NOT ALTER THE CHAMBERS.

 

USE THEM AS THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE USED.

 

FOLLOW THE WARING LABELS.

 

It is only when society gets careless mistakes happen.

 

In our chamber nothing goes in the chamber nothing at all except your body and

100% cotton clothing. That is it. NOTHING ELSE.

 

I inform everybody no perfumes,etc. NOTHING. I ask them also to shower just

before they come. I have had people come and had to scrub there face and wash

there hair before I let them in the chamber WHY. ONE: because of Makeup. TWO:

because of hairspray. You may think I go overboard but nothing is worth the

chance.  NOTHING AT ALL. 100% Oxygen is in use NOTHING but 100% cotton. NOTHING.

 

Now the portables with ambient air. I have no comment on that I do not know

enough about that to make a comment. I'm reffering to my sechrist chamber.

NOTHING AT ALL BUT 100% cotton.

 

I think I got that point across NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING 100% cotton

only.

 

I can be a total --------- when it comes to that. NOTHING.

 

Also I'm so particular that if it say's 100% cotton and something has been sewn

on the shirt that is not cotton. Guess what it does not go in. In fact recently

we only let scrubs go in. This is due to the fact alot of clothing say's 100%

cotton on the tag. However that shirt has been altered by a decal or such that

is not 100%. SO therefore guess what that leads us to the use of scrubs where

there is no doubting.  NOTHING BUT 100% COTTON NOTHING.

 

Even the pillows we get are 100% I had to make a few myself they are very

expensive to buy.

>> > Could someone please direct me to the

documentation that supports the below stated information: " That is why there

have been numerous hard chamber fires over the years, and no soft chamber

fires " . Have there actually been any documented incidences of blowing chambers

up? Please, I would be interested in reading the

documentation. > In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were there

fatalities?> Respectfully, > Judith Burkholder

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Both

> hard chambers and soft chambers have a place in hyperbaric medicine.

 

I have allway's agreed with this statement. I still do. Both have a place in

this field. There is no question to that. One thing that set's me aside from

others is the fact that both have a place in this field but they should both be

used properly.

 

One: No modification should be done to these chambers.

Two: there should be some type of training with both.

 

Many of you may think my beef with Tom Fox is that he dislikes the portables.

That is not it at all. What you will see if you read carefully is the fact don't

single out just one vendor if you have a complaint. Also the fact that if you

have a beef with the portable do not align yourself with a company or

organization that strongly believes in them or has used them in the past with

success.It is a conflict of interest.

Also do not alter a chamber that you feel has no place in this feild. But over

all both types have a place in this field if not they would not be here..

 

Now many patients are seeing great benifits from the portables and that is great

there is a place for them.

 

It is hard for me sometimes to chime in on things as it sounds so contridictory.

But I don't mean to be.

 

Both have a place. In fact I would if I was running a full facility have both in

my office. Plan and simple. I would have several portalbes and two Monoplace.

Autism in my observation see's great results in the portables.

> I'm not a doctor, and neither are you. That's why neither of us are

> supposed to give medical advice. I'm happy to give suggestions to

> people who buy portable chambers, however, I don't sell chambers to

> people who are not under a doctor's care.

>

> I realize that as an operator of a hard chamber clinic, you lose tens

> of thousands of dollars in income each time someone buys a portable

> chamber for home use. Sadly, instead of thinking of what's best for

> your patients, you seem more concerned with your bottom line. Both

> hard chambers and soft chambers have a place in hyperbaric medicine.

>

> Some of the people I work with do an initial round 40 hard chamber

> dives and buy a portable chamber for long term follow up. I'm all for

> combining hard and soft HBOT if that is what a patient feels is best.

> It would be great if we could all work together for the benefit of the

> patients.

>

> Diane

>

>

>

--

Donna Bateman

Neurodevelopmental Specialist

www.parentswithpurp www.par

Mom to 24, Katy 22, Preston 19, Annie 17, Kent 15, Callie 12 (cured

from dyslexia), Carson 10, Dawson 8 (brain injured--was severe now mild!)

[Guest guest]

I am not suggesting that we throw anything out. I am merely referring to the

statement that was made concerning chamber fires and chambers blowing up....with

an inference that this was commonplace and perhaps most who are operating hard

chambers are less than diligent with safety issues.

Considering that from 1923-1997 there were 77 fatalities associated with

chambers (and also keeping in mind that for the majority of those years, safe

practice was not what it is presently), HBOT has a much better safe practice

record than most hospitals, doctor practices, etc.....even better than crossing

the street without looking.

I am still interested in current statistics (within the last ten years). Have

there been fatalities in hard chambers in the US? Were they truly chamber fires

or compressor fires or electrical outside the chamber fires?

Some of the statements made as factual (and maybe they aren't) concern me and

the possibility of scaring off people who would benefit from HBOT but ultimately

believe some of these statements when they aren't completely true.

With much respect,

Judith Burkholder

medicaid@...: darin_bryant@...: Tue, 23 Sep

2008 08:23:10 -0700Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Medical Advice

Let's just be honest here. If the chambers are used and treated with the respect

they deserve they will be safe and effective. First and foremost as long as you

follow the rules of the chamber as with any device they are safe and effective.

DO NOT ALTER THE CHAMBERS. ONCE AGAIN DO NOT ALTER THE CHAMBERS. USE THEM AS

THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE USED. FOLLOW THE WARING LABELS. It is only when society

gets careless mistakes happen. In our chamber nothing goes in the chamber

nothing at all except your body and 100% cotton clothing. That is it. NOTHING

ELSE. I inform everybody no perfumes,etc. NOTHING. I ask them also to shower

just before they come. I have had people come and had to scrub there face and

wash there hair before I let them in the chamber WHY. ONE: because of Makeup.

TWO: because of hairspray. You may think I go overboard but nothing is worth the

chance. NOTHING AT ALL. 100% Oxygen is in use NOTHING but 100% cotton. NOTHING.

Now the portables with ambient air. I have no comment on that I do not know

enough about that to make a comment. I'm reffering to my sechrist chamber.

NOTHING AT ALL BUT 100% cotton. I think I got that point across NOTHING NOTHING

NOTHING NOTHING 100% cotton only. I can be a total --------- when it comes to

that. NOTHING. Also I'm so particular that if it say's 100% cotton and

something has been sewn on the shirt that is not cotton. Guess what it does not

go in. In fact recently we only let scrubs go in. This is due to the fact alot

of clothing say's 100% cotton on the tag. However that shirt has been altered by

a decal or such that is not 100%. SO therefore guess what that leads us to the

use of scrubs where there is no doubting. NOTHING BUT 100% COTTON NOTHING. Even

the pillows we get are 100% I had to make a few myself they are very expensive

to buy. >> > Could someone please

direct me to the documentation that supports the below stated information: " That

is why there have been numerous hard chamber fires over the years, and no soft

chamber fires " . Have there actually been any documented incidences of blowing

chambers up? Please, I would be interested in reading the documentation. > In

what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were there fatalities?>

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There has only been one in the united states, It was in a seacrest where a

man took a hand warmer in the chamber with out anyone knowing it. ( fool)

so all considering it is so safe as long as you are careful and learn

everything.

Oxygen in itself is not explosive unless you give it a source.

There are fire safety courses/ beginning hbot courses, dive courses, and a

host of other courses you can take. My three daughters went to the college

of ocearneeing in long beach.

even at that you need to learn by years of experience.

Re: [ ] Re: Medical Advice

Let's just be honest here. If the chambers are used and treated with the

respect they deserve they will be safe and effective. First and foremost as

long as you follow the rules of the chamber as with any device they are safe

and effective. DO NOT ALTER THE CHAMBERS. ONCE AGAIN DO NOT ALTER THE

CHAMBERS. USE THEM AS THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE USED. FOLLOW THE WARING

LABELS. It is only when society gets careless mistakes happen. In our

chamber nothing goes in the chamber nothing at all except your body and 100%

cotton clothing. That is it. NOTHING ELSE. I inform everybody no

perfumes,etc. NOTHING. I ask them also to shower just before they come. I

have had people come and had to scrub there face and wash there hair before

I let them in the chamber WHY. ONE: because of Makeup. TWO: because of

hairspray. You may think I go overboard but nothing is worth the chance.

NOTHING AT ALL. 100% Oxygen is in use NOTHING but 100% cotton. NOTHING. Now

the portables with ambient air. I have no comment on that I do not know

enough about that to make a comment. I'm reffering to my sechrist chamber.

NOTHING AT ALL BUT 100% cotton. I think I got that point across NOTHING

NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING 100% cotton only. I can be a total --------- when it

comes to that. NOTHING. Also I'm so particular that if it say's 100% cotton

and something has been sewn on the shirt that is not cotton. Guess what it

does not go in. In fact recently we only let scrubs go in. This is due to

the fact alot of clothing say's 100% cotton on the tag. However that shirt

has been altered by a decal or such that is not 100%. SO therefore guess

what that leads us to the use of scrubs where there is no doubting. NOTHING

BUT 100% COTTON NOTHING. Even the pillows we get are 100% I had to make a

few myself they are very expensive to buy. >> > Could someone please direct

me to the documentation that supports the below stated information: " That is

why there have been numerous hard chamber fires over the years, and no soft

chamber fires " . Have there actually been any documented incidences of

blowing chambers up? Please, I would be interested in reading the

documentation. > In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were there

fatalities?> Respectfully, > Judith Burkholder ____________ _________

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Judith I'm with you 100%. I hope you did not think I was reffering to you. I was

just saying let's be honest. These chambers are safe as you stated 1 in 10

years. If you take a look at that incident you will find it was human error...

 

That is what Im saying if you follow the directions and do what is right nothing

to worry about..

 

Darin

>> > Could someone please direct

me to the documentation that supports the below stated information: " That

is why there have been numerous hard chamber fires over the years, and no soft

chamber fires " . Have there actually been any documented incidences of

blowing chambers up? Please, I would be interested in reading the documentation.

> In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were there fatalities?>

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[Guest guest]

Judith I'm with you 100%. I hope you did not think I was reffering to you. I was

just saying let's be honest. These chambers are safe as you stated 1 in 10

years. If you take a look at that incident you will find it was human error...

 

That is what Im saying if you follow the directions and do what is right nothing

to worry about..

 

Darin

>> > Could someone please direct

me to the documentation that supports the below stated information: " That

is why there have been numerous hard chamber fires over the years, and no soft

chamber fires " . Have there actually been any documented incidences of

blowing chambers up? Please, I would be interested in reading the documentation.

> In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were there fatalities?>

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[Guest guest]

AMEN .. Did you guy's read that. He took a warmer in the chamber. He gave

it a source. As I stated read the insructions follow the rules just be safe.

 

Look after all these discussions on the list I think you all that are asking

these questions should take a course on Hyperbaric chamber safety.

 

I know I have made a list of the questions people are asking that they should

know if there running a clinic and people I know will not be reffered to them.

 

People like should be commended highly for there efforts and ongoing

education to keep your family safe. Some people need to do the same. If your

really interested in this field take the course. If not leave it alone.

 

>> > Could someone please direct

me to the documentation that supports the below stated information: " That is

why there have been numerous hard chamber fires over the years, and no soft

chamber fires " . Have there actually been any documented incidences of

blowing chambers up? Please, I would be interested in reading the

documentation. > In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were there

fatalities?> Respectfully, > Judith Burkholder ____________ _________

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I beleive the mentioned fire caused by hand warmer was a Japanese Hospital and

not in the United States.? And if I remember correctly there were 2, first

caused by a butane hand warmer and the next caused by one of those chemical hand

warmers (they are am oxidative chemical reaction).

?

Wayne D. McHwoell, RN, BSN, CHRNA

Re: [ ] Re: Medical Advice

There has only been one in the united states, It was in a seacrest where a

man took a hand warmer in the chamber with out anyone knowing it. ( fool)

so all considering it is so safe as long as you are careful and learn

everything.

Oxygen in itself is not explosive unless you give it a source.

There are fire safety courses/ beginning hbot courses, dive courses, and a

host of other courses you can take. My three daughters went to the college

of ocearneeing in long beach.

even at that you need to learn by years of experience.

Re: [ ] Re: Medical Advice

Let's just be honest here. If the chambers are used and treated with the

respect they deserve they will be safe and effective. First and foremost as

long as you follow the rules of the chamber as with any device they are safe

and effective. DO NOT ALTER THE CHAMBERS. ONCE AGAIN DO NOT ALTER THE

CHAMBERS. USE THEM AS THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE USED. FOLLOW THE WARING

LABELS. It is only when society gets careless mistakes happen. In our

chamber nothing goes in the chamber nothing at all except your body and 100%

cotton clothing. That is it. NOTHING ELSE. I inform everybody no

perfumes,etc. NOTHING. I ask them also to shower just before they come. I

have had people come and had to scrub there face and wash there hair before

I let them in the chamber WHY. ONE: because of Makeup. TWO: because of

hairspray. You may think I go overboard but nothing is worth the chance.

NOTHING AT ALL. 100% Oxygen is in use NOTHING but 100% cotton. NOTHING. Now

the portables with ambient air. I have no comment on that I do not know

enough about that to make a comment. I'm reffering to my sechrist chamber.

NOTHING AT ALL BUT 100% cotton. I think I got that point across NOTHING

NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING 100% cotton only. I can be a total --------- when it

comes to that. NOTHING. Also I'm so particular that if it say's 100% cotton

and something has been sewn on the shirt that is not cotton. Guess what it

does not go in. In fact recently we only let scrubs go in. This is due to

the fact alot of clothing say's 100% cotton on the tag. However that shirt

has been altered by a decal or such that is not 100%. SO therefore guess

what that leads us to the use of scrubs where there is no doubting. NOTHING

BUT 100% COTTON NOTHING. Even the pillows we get are 100% I had to make a

few myself they are very expensive to buy. & gt; & gt; & gt; Could someone

please direct

me to the documentation that supports the below stated information: " That is

why there have been numerous hard chamber fires over the years, and no soft

chamber fires " . Have there actually been any documented incidences of

blowing chambers up? Please, I would be interested in reading the

documentation. & gt; In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were there

fatalities? & gt; Respectfully, & gt; Judith Burkholder ____________ _________

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The problem with these statistics is that there are none being kept on the

safety of " soft chambers " and the practice of " mild hyperbarics " .  This is due

to there being no requirements top report incidents if not part of a medical

institution.

 

Wayne McHowell, RN, BSN, ONC, CHRNA

Re: [ ] Re: Medical Advice

Let's just be honest here. If the chambers are used and treated with the respect

they deserve they will be safe and effective. First and foremost as long as you

follow the rules of the chamber as with any device they are safe and effective.

DO NOT ALTER THE CHAMBERS. ONCE AGAIN DO NOT ALTER THE CHAMBERS. USE THEM AS

THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE USED. FOLLOW THE WARING LABELS. It is only when society

gets careless mistakes happen. In our chamber nothing goes in the chamber

nothing at all except your body and 100% cotton clothing. That is it. NOTHING

ELSE. I inform everybody no perfumes,etc. NOTHING. I ask them also to shower

just before they come. I have had people come and had to scrub there face and

wash there hair before I let them in the chamber WHY. ONE: because of Makeup.

TWO: because of hairspray. You may think I go overboard but nothing is worth the

chance. NOTHING AT ALL. 100% Oxygen is in use NOTHING but 100% cotton. NOTHING.

Now the portables with ambient air. I have no comment on that I do not know

enough about

that to make a comment. I'm reffering to my sechrist chamber. NOTHING AT ALL

BUT 100% cotton. I think I got that point across NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING

NOTHING 100% cotton only. I can be a total --------- when it comes to that.

NOTHING. Also I'm so particular that if it say's 100% cotton and something

has been sewn on the shirt that is not cotton. Guess what it does not go in.

In fact recently we only let scrubs go in. This is due to the fact alot of

clothing say's 100% cotton on the tag. However that shirt has been altered by

a decal or such that is not 100%. SO therefore guess what that leads us to the

use of scrubs where there is no doubting. NOTHING BUT 100% COTTON NOTHING. Even

the pillows we get are 100% I had to make a few myself they are very expensive

to buy. & gt; & gt; & gt; Could

someone please direct me to the documentation that supports the below stated

information: " That is why there have been numerous hard chamber fires over the

years, and no soft chamber fires " . Have there actually been any documented

incidences of blowing chambers up? Please, I would be interested in reading

the documentation. & gt; In what state(s) have these fires taken place? Were

there fatalities? & gt; Respectfully, & gt; Judith Burkholder ____________

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[Guest guest]

With all due respect, that is not an accurate statement. It would,

perhaps, be accurate to say that there have been no confirmed chamber

fires within the United States in the last 10 years.

Since Dr. Sheffield and company published their report in 1998, there

have several incidents (mostly international) - some were fires, some

were not.

To my knowledge, these are the incidents, chamber type (mono, multi,

equine) and cause (where I know them) since the report was written and

issued. Most of the information would likely be found in Workman's

" HYPERBARIC FACILITY SAFETY: A PRACTICAL GUIDE " by W. Tom Workman

(ISBN: 0-941332-76-4), available from Best Publishing

(www.bestpub.com). I do not have my copy handy, so I can't provide

dates or all info (this is from memory). Regardless, this is a good

book to have on hand for any facility that intends to safely operate

hyperbaric chambers of any design.

US -

California (I believe) pressure boundary failure - - modified

mulitplace chamber door failed (metal door replaced by owner with an

acrylic one that had holes drilled into for a handle - site of failure)

Japan

- monoplace - various fires over the years (chemical hand warmer,

ignited hand warmer [fisherman's friend] taken into chamber, lighter

used inside chamber)

-Multiplace (over 10 years ago) fire - high power photographic

lighting taken inside chamber (Wiring failure)

Italy (about 4 or 5 yrs ago, I believe)

-Multiplace - fire - rumors vary, but several suggest it was a cell

phone or other proscribed item taken inside chamber (fire suppression

system was not operable). Manuf and facility staff found criminally

negligent in Italian court for not following international safety

standards (i.e., ASME PVHO-1 and NFPA were specified by the court)

even though they are not required in Italy.

South America (not sure of country, about 2 years ago) - monoplace

fire - source appears to be communication system (South American

manufacturer did not follow any safety codes and used an off the shelf

Radio Shack intercom). Fire appears to have ignited when patient

attempted to activate communications system.

Canada (about 2 yrs ago) - Equine Chamber - Fire (cause not yet known

/ disclosed). Lawsuit underway.

UK (this year) - Equine Chamber - Fire (cause under investigation, but

it has been suggested that the horse was allowed to enter with steel

shoes on [against facility and manuf policy] and that it kicked the

wall, causing a spark and subsequent fire.

This is not meant to be a complete list (it's form my memory).

In all cases, where a fire has occurred, it appears that the source

was a proscribed item being allowed inside the chamber or the safety

and design codes were ignored. The pressure vessel failure was as

result of an unapproved modification of the chamber.

Hyperbaric chambers are safe is they are designed in accordance with

international safety codes and operated trained personnel in

accordance with proper safety procedures. When these are ignored,

accidents happen. With one exception, these were a result of

operators not following the safety procedures. In the most recent

monoplace fire, it was as a result of the chamber manufacturer not

following international safety standards when designing and

manufacturing the chamber system (I could make a comment here about

certain chambers sold within the US, but I will not single out any

specific manufacturer).

Glen Canterbury, CHT

(In the interest of disclosure, my company manufactures and operates

hyperbaric chambers - I am posting this for the education of list

members and not pointing fingers at any specific manufacturer of any

type of hyperbaric chamber)

>

> There have been NO fires in the last 10 years.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

[Guest guest]

Wayne, you are correct.

There have been at least three monoplace fires in Japan (according to

my memory) - two in Sechrist monoplaces and one in a Hyox chamber.

The manufacturer of the chamber was irrelevant to the source of

ignition or cause of the fire.

As I included in my earlier post (and I think it was one of the

Sechrist chambers, not that it matters) - in the third case an

unconscious patient was placed in the chamber in street clothes.

During treatment, the patient supposedly regained consciousness and

(as I understand it) took out a lighter and cigarette and attempted to

smoke it (with the predictable disastrous and, I believe, fatal results).

In all cases, in Japan, to my knowledge the source was a contraband

item being introduced into the chamber interior.

Glen

>

> I beleive the mentioned fire caused by hand warmer was a Japanese

Hospital and not in the United States.? And if I remember correctly

there were 2, first caused by a butane hand warmer and the next caused

by one of those chemical hand warmers (they are am oxidative chemical

reaction).

>

> Wayne D. McHwoell, RN, BSN, CHRNA

>

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> I totally agree.. and those of you who do.. should contact this

portable

> company and express your concerns with this rep. She could be

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> someone's demise without proper training..IMO!

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[Guest guest]

HYPERBARIC CHAMBER FIRE IN PERU ON 2006 FEBRUARY 8: PROBABLE

CAUSE AND SAFETY RECOMMENDATIONS

Abstract:

BACKGROUND: Use of hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBO2) in South America

is expanding dramatically. HBO2 is used for approved,

investigational, and life-style indications. On February 8 an

extensive hyperbaric oxygen chamber fire occurred in a monoplace

chamber in a free-standing facility in Lima, Peru, causing one

fatality. Our company was requested by the UHMS Peru Chapter to help

authorities determine the cause of the fire and to provide equipment

and training recommendations to help prevent such accident

MATERIALS AND METHODS: One of us (GJB) inspected the chamber site and

interviewed some of the people involved; a government investigation

is underway.

RESULTS: We believe the chamber was compressed with air to 2.4 atm

and the patient breathed oxygen by mask and exhaled into the chamber.

The chamber was periodically ventilated with air, but oxygen level

was not analyzed, and the intensity of the fire suggested that the

content was close to 100 percent oxygen. The patient's position and

other evidence suggest that a speaker perhaps with a push-to-alert

button may have been the source of ignition. This system was not

approved for use in an oxygen-rich atmosphere; the Peruvian

government has ordered the use of these and similar units

discontinued. From our limited evidence we conclude at this time that

high oxygen and electrical equipment not designed for oxygen service

were the likely cause of the fire, but the investigation is

continuing.

DISCUSSION: Many chambers in South America are manufactured there and

are in free-standing, non-hospital clinics. High costs and limited

reimbursement force operators to compromise safety. The most

effective way to improve HBO2 safety in Latin America is to teach the

hazards and how to avoid them. We recommend teaching both

manufacturers and operators the concepts of chamber safety, in

particular the principles covered in PVHO-1 and NFPA-99.

Description: Undersea and Hyperbaric Medical Society, Inc.

http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/3768

[Guest guest]

If the chamber was continuosly vented(like the portables) you would never get

the dangerous build up of 02.

This is all common sense folks.

Szymonski

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

[ ] Re: Medical Advice

HYPERBARIC CHAMBER FIRE IN PERU ON 2006 FEBRUARY 8: PROBABLE

CAUSE AND SAFETY RECOMMENDATIONS

Abstract:

BACKGROUND: Use of hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBO2) in South America

is expanding dramatically. HBO2 is used for approved,

investigational, and life-style indications. On February 8 an

extensive hyperbaric oxygen chamber fire occurred in a monoplace

chamber in a free-standing facility in Lima, Peru, causing one

fatality. Our company was requested by the UHMS Peru Chapter to help

authorities determine the cause of the fire and to provide equipment

and training recommendations to help prevent such accident

MATERIALS AND METHODS: One of us (GJB) inspected the chamber site and

interviewed some of the people involved; a government investigation

is underway.

RESULTS: We believe the chamber was compressed with air to 2.4 atm

and the patient breathed oxygen by mask and exhaled into the chamber.

The chamber was periodically ventilated with air, but oxygen level

was not analyzed, and the intensity of the fire suggested that the

content was close to 100 percent oxygen. The patient's position and

other evidence suggest that a speaker perhaps with a push-to-alert

button may have been the source of ignition. This system was not

approved for use in an oxygen-rich atmosphere; the Peruvian

government has ordered the use of these and similar units

discontinued. From our limited evidence we conclude at this time that

high oxygen and electrical equipment not designed for oxygen service

were the likely cause of the fire, but the investigation is

continuing.

DISCUSSION: Many chambers in South America are manufactured there and

are in free-standing, non-hospital clinics. High costs and limited

reimbursement force operators to compromise safety. The most

effective way to improve HBO2 safety in Latin America is to teach the

hazards and how to avoid them. We recommend teaching both

manufacturers and operators the concepts of chamber safety, in

particular the principles covered in PVHO-1 and NFPA-99.

Description: Undersea and Hyperbaric Medical Society, Inc.

http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/3768

[Guest guest]

We offer an optional training program to everyone who buys a portable

hyperbaric chamber.

Diane

> I totally agree.. and those of you who do.. should contact this

portable

> company and express your concerns with this rep. She could be

instrumental in

> someone's demise without proper training..IMO!

> contact

> www.Healingdives.com (http://www.Healingdives.com)

[Guest guest]

Training by whom, Diane YOU?

[ ] Re: Medical Advice

> We offer an optional training program to everyone who buys a portable

> hyperbaric chamber.

>

> Diane

>

>

>

>> I totally agree.. and those of you who do.. should contact this

> portable

>> company and express your concerns with this rep. She could be

> instrumental in

>> someone's demise without proper training..IMO!

>> contact

>> www.Healingdives.com (http://www.Healingdives.com)

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> " So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find;

> knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives;

> he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. " [Luke

> 11: 9-10]

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

[Guest guest]

Now wait a minute Diane,

this is South America, they did not have an oxygen analyzer!

It is by law we must have one, They cost allot, DO YOU HAVE ONE?>> NO,

because You know NOTHING about safety, health or anytype of common sense as

far as HBOT.

You have no certificates what so ever, This oxygen analyzers cost at least

900 dollars and that is to expensive for your chambers, which are cheap, so

If using your oxygen concentrator raises the oxygen level with your cheap

throw away masks, which it could, you could have a fire in those chambers!

which we would never know about because there is no rules or regulations for

the body bags in which you sell. Even though you have never taken a course

in your life!

So please, I have apologized for calling you stupid and a fool many times.

Don't deceive people on this list!. For I happen to know that many times

there have been over inflation of these body bags and the compressor have

put smoke into the bags.

I grow exhausted being compared to a cheap bag which is compared to a

$200,000 dollar machine that saves life's.

So please again, go to a course and learn the product, learn safety and

don't post articles intented to grossly mislead. It is not an honorable act

upon your part.

[ ] Re: Medical Advice

> HYPERBARIC CHAMBER FIRE IN PERU ON 2006 FEBRUARY 8: PROBABLE

> CAUSE AND SAFETY RECOMMENDATIONS

>

> Abstract:

> BACKGROUND: Use of hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBO2) in South America

> is expanding dramatically. HBO2 is used for approved,

> investigational, and life-style indications. On February 8 an

> extensive hyperbaric oxygen chamber fire occurred in a monoplace

> chamber in a free-standing facility in Lima, Peru, causing one

> fatality. Our company was requested by the UHMS Peru Chapter to help

> authorities determine the cause of the fire and to provide equipment

> and training recommendations to help prevent such accident

>

> MATERIALS AND METHODS: One of us (GJB) inspected the chamber site and

> interviewed some of the people involved; a government investigation

> is underway.

>

> RESULTS: We believe the chamber was compressed with air to 2.4 atm

> and the patient breathed oxygen by mask and exhaled into the chamber.

> The chamber was periodically ventilated with air, but oxygen level

> was not analyzed, and the intensity of the fire suggested that the

> content was close to 100 percent oxygen. The patient's position and

> other evidence suggest that a speaker perhaps with a push-to-alert

> button may have been the source of ignition. This system was not

> approved for use in an oxygen-rich atmosphere; the Peruvian

> government has ordered the use of these and similar units

> discontinued. From our limited evidence we conclude at this time that

> high oxygen and electrical equipment not designed for oxygen service

> were the likely cause of the fire, but the investigation is

> continuing.

>

> DISCUSSION: Many chambers in South America are manufactured there and

> are in free-standing, non-hospital clinics. High costs and limited

> reimbursement force operators to compromise safety. The most

> effective way to improve HBO2 safety in Latin America is to teach the

> hazards and how to avoid them. We recommend teaching both

> manufacturers and operators the concepts of chamber safety, in

> particular the principles covered in PVHO-1 and NFPA-99.

>

> Description: Undersea and Hyperbaric Medical Society, Inc.

>

> http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/3768

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> " So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find;

> knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives;

> he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. " [Luke

> 11: 9-10]

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

[Guest guest]

This is information on the optional training program that I offer to

everyone who buys one of my hyperbaric chambers.

Diane

Chamber Set-Up & Training:

While the Healing Dives Portable Hyperbaric Chambers are designed to

be user friendly, some people would prefer to have a professional

assist them with set-up and training. Since 1995, our certified

technicians have installed everything from portable hyperbaric

chambers for home use to multi-place chambers in clinics and

hospitals.

These professionals have trained hundreds of individuals, families,

and institutions on the correct procedures for operating their

hyperbaric chambers so they will get the most out of their investment

and have the confidence to operate their chamber safely. Our

hyperbaric training program will help relieve any concerns you may

have with unfamiliar components. Our technicians will instruct you

using easy-to-understand terms. All technicians are factory trained

and certified.

Includes:

Assembly – A certified hyperbaric technician will arrive at the

location of your chamber on a pre-determined date and time to

completely assemble all the components that will be utilized with

your new chamber.

Modification – The technician will conduct a full on-site evaluation

of each component, and will make any necessary adjustments to meet

your personal needs.

Orientation - The technician will identify every sub-component of

your system and explain how everything becomes integrated into a

working chamber in plain language. Hands on experience will be

provided for each member of your staff or family.

Training - The technician will conduct a course covering basic

hyperbaric theory and hyperbaric chamber safety for up to four

participants. You will learn the science behind hyperbaric oxygen

therapy, as well as the correct procedures to follow to ensure the

safe operation of your chamber.

>

> Training by whom, Diane YOU?

>

[Guest guest]

>Since 1995, our certified

>technicians have installed everything from portable hyperbaric

>chambers for home use to multi-place chambers in clinics and

>hospitals.

Diane,

Please provide the names of these technicians and/or the companies/organizations

they work for.

Thank you.

DF

[ ] Re: Medical Advice

>

>This is information on the optional training program that I offer to

>everyone who buys one of my hyperbaric chambers.

>

>Diane

>

>Chamber Set-Up & Training:

>

>While the Healing Dives Portable Hyperbaric Chambers are designed to

>be user friendly, some people would prefer to have a professional

>assist them with set-up and training. Since 1995, our certified

>technicians have installed everything from portable hyperbaric

>chambers for home use to multi-place chambers in clinics and

>hospitals.

>

>These professionals have trained hundreds of individuals, families,

>and institutions on the correct procedures for operating their

>hyperbaric chambers so they will get the most out of their investment

>and have the confidence to operate their chamber safely. Our

>hyperbaric training program will help relieve any concerns you may

>have with unfamiliar components. Our technicians will instruct you

>using easy-to-understand terms. All technicians are factory trained

>and certified.

>

>Includes:

>

>Assembly – A certified hyperbaric technician will arrive at the

>location of your chamber on a pre-determined date and time to

>completely assemble all the components that will be utilized with

>your new chamber.

>

>Modification – The technician will conduct a full on-site evaluation

>of each component, and will make any necessary adjustments to meet

>your personal needs.

>

>Orientation - The technician will identify every sub-component of

>your system and explain how everything becomes integrated into a

>working chamber in plain language. Hands on experience will be

>provided for each member of your staff or family.

>

>Training - The technician will conduct a course covering basic

>hyperbaric theory and hyperbaric chamber safety for up to four

>participants. You will learn the science behind hyperbaric oxygen

>therapy, as well as the correct procedures to follow to ensure the

>safe operation of your chamber.

>

>

>>

>> Training by whom, Diane YOU?

>>

>

>

Freels

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