Re: HAIR LOSS AND VITAMIN D

[Guest guest]

Respectfully to the Mayo Clinic - BULLFEATHERS!

Many, but NOT all MD's know about as much about vitamins and real nutrition as I

do about cardiac surgery. Heck, most of you that are members of this Group

know more about vitamins and nutrition than you family doctor.

Dr. Burt Berkson has said (paraphrasing) that one of the problems in medical

schools today is that students are trained to remember medical protocols and

procedures....while not being allowed to think outside the box. Berkson's leg up

on others in the medical field was that he started out as a researcher and was

encouraged to think for himself, explore, challenge, compete and question.

IMHO, if you want to know something about Vitamin D3, one of the more important

vitamins needed for good health - - especially for those that are facing

tremendous health problems - - - go to the web site: Vitamin D Council

(http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/).

The doctors involved in the discovery of LDN's significance (Bihari, Zagon,

etc.) and those that have taken up the cause of LDN research since, were able to

think outside that constrictive medical box and have brought LDN to a place now,

where I am sure they never thought they'd be 10 years ago.

Just my humble opinion.

[Guest guest]

My Internist/MD got a degree in Nutrition BEFORE he went to medical school and that's why he's so knowledgable about nutrients/supplements. He prescribed LDN for my husband who has IPF.

Annette

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately Cannell and the " Vitamin " D Council do not think outside the box.

If you want to see outrageous distortion of studies and insane advice about

raising D levels to dangerous ones, go to a cheerleader out to make money. He is

paid by a vitamin company now to promote D, and has retired as a prison

psychiatrist.

best, P.B.

>

> Respectfully to the Mayo Clinic - BULLFEATHERS!

>

> Many, but NOT all MD's know about as much about vitamins and real nutrition as

I do about cardiac surgery. Heck, most of you that are members of this

Group know more about vitamins and nutrition than you family doctor.

>

> Dr. Burt Berkson has said (paraphrasing) that one of the problems in medical

schools today is that students are trained to remember medical protocols and

procedures....while not being allowed to think outside the box. Berkson's leg up

on others in the medical field was that he started out as a researcher and was

encouraged to think for himself, explore, challenge, compete and question.

>

> IMHO, if you want to know something about Vitamin D3, one of the more

important vitamins needed for good health - - especially for those that are

facing tremendous health problems - - - go to the web site: Vitamin D Council

(http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/).

>

> The doctors involved in the discovery of LDN's significance (Bihari, Zagon,

etc.) and those that have taken up the cause of LDN research since, were able to

think outside that constrictive medical box and have brought LDN to a place now,

where I am sure they never thought they'd be 10 years ago.

>

> Just my humble opinion.

>

[Guest guest]

True " Vitamin " or secosteroid D deficiency is relatively rare, seen mainly in

children with genetic mutations and in AIDs and some cancers. In reality most

people with chronic illnesses have elevated levels of the active hormonal form

(1,25-D or calcitriol); that in turn causes the precursor (calcidiol or 25-D) to

be changed into a less active form and 25-D levels drop. Giving megadoses of D3

is a mistaken approach,that may actually increase the risk of fractures by

contributing to the hypervitaminosis D, that robs calcium from the bones.

The common assertion that less than 30ng/ml of 25-D is " insufficient " is

ridiculous, since the majority of healthy humans who are in the sun frequently

are below this level.

Hypervitaminosis D can contribute to hair loss, as can thyroid problems. Both of

these are common in chronic illness. One of the more common diagnostic

presentations of hypervitaminosis D is having hunks of hair fall out; that is

what happened to me. In low thyroid conditions hair loss is usually more

diffuse, but not always. You can see diffuse hair loss with either condition.

best, P.B.

>

> Many are writing on here that they are losing hair and thinking it's the LDN.

It's NOT. It's possible it's Vitamin D deficiency, but...I'm already getting

responses that some are being told by their doctors to take 10,000 IU of D3.

The following is what I took from the mayoclinic.com site re: too much Vitiman

D...

>

> Question Vitamin D toxicity: What if you get too much? What is vitamin D

toxicity, and should I worry about it since I take supplements? Answer from

Zeratsky, R.D., L.D. Vitamin D toxicity, also called hypervitaminosis

D, is a potentially serious but treatable medical condition that occurs when you

get too much vitamin D.

> Vitamin D toxicity usually results from taking an excessive amount of vitamin

D supplements ¡ª not from your diet or too much sun exposure. That's because

your body regulates the amount of vitamin D produced from sun exposure, and even

fortified foods don't contain large amounts of vitamin D.

> Although vitamin D toxicity is rare even among people who take supplements,

you may be at greater risk if you have health problems, such as liver or kidney

conditions, or if you take thiazide-type diuretics. As always, make sure your

doctor is aware of any vitamins or supplements you take.

> The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your

blood (hypercalcemia), causing symptoms such as:

> ¡öNausea

> ¡öVomiting

> ¡öPoor appetite

> ¡öConstipation

> ¡öWeakness

> ¡öConfusion

> ¡öHeart rhythm abnormalities

> ¡öKidney stones

> Treatment of vitamin D toxicity may include stopping vitamin D supplements

and restricting calcium intake, as well as taking medication. In severe cases,

hospitalization may be necessary.

> Supplements can be a reasonable way to meet recommended levels ¡ª as long as

you pay attention to how much you take. The Institute of Medicine currently

recommends that children and adults up to age 70 get 600 international units

(IU) of vitamin D daily. The recommendation for adults over age 70 is 800 IU

daily.

> Finally, keep in mind that doctors may recommend higher does of vitamin D for

a short time to treat an underlying medical problem such as vitamin D

deficiency. However, such therapeutic doses are given under the care of a

doctor.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello PB, who ever you are since you use initials only.

Please back up your own " ridiculous " claims with some solid research studies,

scientific proof for your claims, as everything you have said so far goes

against everything my 2 specialist Dr.s and GP have said about Vit. D levels and

the current reserch studies/implications of too low levels of Vit D. All have

said that 2,000 IU is a safe daily dose for someone who is below normal

levels(tested) that has a chronic illness. FACTS

please...........................

Good day, Randy

.. Re: HAIR LOSS AND VITAMIN D

Posted by: " ursus357 " ursus357@... ursus357

Sun Apr 3, 2011 4:41 pm (PDT)

True " Vitamin " or secosteroid D deficiency is relatively rare, seen mainly in

children with genetic mutations and in AIDs and some cancers. In reality most

people with chronic illnesses have elevated levels of the active hormonal form

(1,25-D or calcitriol); that in turn causes the precursor (calcidiol or 25-D) to

be changed into a less active form and 25-D levels drop. Giving megadoses of D3

is a mistaken approach,that may actually increase the risk of fractures by

contributing to the hypervitaminosis D, that robs calcium from the bones.

The common assertion that less than 30ng/ml of 25-D is " insufficient " is

ridiculous, since the majority of healthy humans who are in the sun frequently

are below this level.

Hypervitaminosis D can contribute to hair loss, as can thyroid problems. Both of

these are common in chronic illness. One of the more common diagnostic

presentations of hypervitaminosis D is having hunks of hair fall out; that is

what happened to me. In low thyroid conditions hair loss is usually more

diffuse, but not always. You can see diffuse hair loss with either condition.

best, P.B.

>

> Many are writing on here that they are losing hair and thinking it's the LDN.

It's NOT. It's possible it's Vitamin D deficiency, but...I'm already getting

responses that some are being told by their doctors to take 10,000 IU of D3. The

following is what I took from the mayoclinic.com site re: too much Vitiman D...

>

> Question Vitamin D toxicity: What if you get too much? What is vitamin D

toxicity, and should I worry about it since I take supplements? Answer from

Zeratsky, R.D., L.D. Vitamin D toxicity, also called hypervitaminosis

D, is a potentially serious but treatable medical condition that occurs when you

get too much vitamin D.

> Vitamin D toxicity usually results from taking an excessive amount of vitamin

D supplements ¡ª not from your diet or too much sun exposure. That's because

your body regulates the amount of vitamin D produced from sun exposure, and even

fortified foods don't contain large amounts of vitamin D.

> Although vitamin D toxicity is rare even among people who take supplements,

you may be at greater risk if you have health problems, such as liver or kidney

conditions, or if you take thiazide-type diuretics. As always, make sure your

doctor is aware of any vitamins or supplements you take.

> The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your

blood (hypercalcemia) , causing symptoms such as:

> ¡öNausea

> ¡öVomiting

> ¡öPoor appetite

> ¡öConstipation

> ¡öWeakness

> ¡öConfusion

> ¡öHeart rhythm abnormalities

> ¡öKidney stones

> Treatment of vitamin D toxicity may include stopping vitamin D supplements and

restricting calcium intake, as well as taking medication. In severe cases,

hospitalization may be necessary.

> Supplements can be a reasonable way to meet recommended levels ¡ª as long as

you pay attention to how much you take. The Institute of Medicine currently

recommends that children and adults up to age 70 get 600 international units

(IU) of vitamin D daily. The recommendation for adults over age 70 is 800 IU

daily.

> Finally, keep in mind that doctors may recommend higher does of vitamin D for

a short time to treat an underlying medical problem such as vitamin D

deficiency. However, such therapeutic doses are given under the care of a

doctor.

>