Nausea

[Guest guest]

I also get nauseous from the Norco. My doctor proscribed Prochlorperazine the

generic for Comazine that Chemo patients take. It doesn't work as well as I

would like. Sometimes a couple of Dramamine will work better. I also take

PetoBizmo.

Cheryl V

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[Guest guest]

You may already know this, but I will say it for the people that don't know it.

ALWAYS TAKE NARCOTICS WITH FOOD. If you don't, you get nausea. And by food, I

don't mean a cracker.

Peanuts, cheese, etc work well to buffer the stomach.

[Guest guest]

Hi all of you nice people,

Just awhile ago I decided to subscribe to the list because my dear friend

Joanne is the owner/moderator.

She and I have shared many miles of our journey in life together....

I have just been lurking the past few weeks, but enjoy this more " intimate "

group's postings and have learned new things.

I was diagnosed with early Stage 1 PBC in October 1992 and with possible AIH

overlap. Here we are nearly 16 years later and I have progressed to Stage

4, but recently my hepatologist reported that all my blood tests were normal!

That doesn't mean that I am " home free " because I do have symptoms, some

which are not exactly pleasant, but I am blessed to live a fairly active life.

Initially diagnosed I was scared and depressed. With the help of family,

close friends, the medical community and my involvement in local and national

PBC support groups, I know there is always hope.

I saw a Rheumatologist last year and he really " listened " to my concerns and

gave me some great suggestions to deal with chronic illness.

I will share my list for coping:

1) Don't let medical professionals intimidate you. If you are not

comfortable at appointments, take a written list of questions to your

appointments, a

trusted family member or friend. Some medical facilities employ patient

advocates if you ask the administration for help. They will go to bat for you,

if

you ask nicely.

2) Autoimmune liver disease should not define who you are, but rather is a

part of a new way of living and coping. Know where to ask for help and if you

don't receive reasonable support, ask those of us who are living it. Family

members are not always able to be there totally. Consider how fearful they

may be and that emotionally it is not always so easy to understand how you

have changed.

4) Knowledge is power. Educate yourself on the latest research or ask for

" translation " of medicalese! Is that a word? Also, not everyone in your life

needs to know all about your illnesses, but at least communicate to them

that you do have chronic medical conditions that limit your choices and

lifestyle. I have read some excellent literature regarding coping with chronic

diseases. Feel free to e-mail me for titles.

5) Some people are not comfortable sharing their stories with loved ones.

Seek help from a professional counselor, a local support group of like-minded

people, or contact folks here. We all have stories and have walked in

similar shoes. If your medical team doesn't provide the assistance and tend to

your personal needs, seek another resource, if possible. I have changed

doctors

a few times in 15+ years to create a network of people who really care about

me. You all deserve that.

6) Don't be so hard on yourself or others who don't understand. Find joy in

each day, if only for a few minutes. Laugh, exercise, eat nutritiously,

create, have hope and take naps if you can. They can make all the difference

for you. I used to fight fatigue, but now tuck in for a siesta each afternoon.

My family likes me better when I am rested.

7) Be certain to tell your health team if you suffer from symptoms such as

nausea, depression and incessant itching. There are solutions and sometimes

you have to try many remedies before you get it just right.

Off my soapbox now. I feel each day is a gift and keep fighting. We are

all in this together.

Healing Hugs,

Anne V., WA state, stage 4 PBC/overlap AIH, age 55, dx 10/92

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Anne V., what a wonderful, useful message! Thank you.

Harper

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[Guest guest]

Hi Anne,

Your list contains some excellent advice. I especially like No.6

The fact that you can still be positive and fairly active after 16

years is reason enough for everyone else to be hopeful. Thanks for

sharing.

Sue

>

> Hi all of you nice people,

>

> Just awhile ago I decided to subscribe to the list because my dear

friend

> Joanne is the owner/moderator.

> She and I have shared many miles of our journey in life together....

>

> I have just been lurking the past few weeks, but enjoy this

more " intimate "

> group's postings and have learned new things.

>

> I was diagnosed with early Stage 1 PBC in October 1992 and with

possible AIH

> overlap. Here we are nearly 16 years later and I have progressed

to Stage

> 4, but recently my hepatologist reported that all my blood tests

were normal!

> That doesn't mean that I am " home free " because I do have

symptoms, some

> which are not exactly pleasant, but I am blessed to live a fairly

active life.

>

> Initially diagnosed I was scared and depressed. With the help of

family,

> close friends, the medical community and my involvement in local

and national

> PBC support groups, I know there is always hope.

> I saw a Rheumatologist last year and he really " listened " to my

concerns and

> gave me some great suggestions to deal with chronic illness.

>

> I will share my list for coping:

>

> 1) Don't let medical professionals intimidate you. If you are not

> comfortable at appointments, take a written list of questions to

your appointments, a

> trusted family member or friend. Some medical facilities employ

patient

> advocates if you ask the administration for help. They will go to

bat for you, if

> you ask nicely.

>

> 2) Autoimmune liver disease should not define who you are, but

rather is a

> part of a new way of living and coping. Know where to ask for help

and if you

> don't receive reasonable support, ask those of us who are living

it. Family

> members are not always able to be there totally. Consider how

fearful they

> may be and that emotionally it is not always so easy to understand

how you

> have changed.

>

> 4) Knowledge is power. Educate yourself on the latest research or

ask for

> " translation " of medicalese! Is that a word? Also, not everyone

in your life

> needs to know all about your illnesses, but at least communicate

to them

> that you do have chronic medical conditions that limit your choices

and

> lifestyle. I have read some excellent literature regarding coping

with chronic

> diseases. Feel free to e-mail me for titles.

>

> 5) Some people are not comfortable sharing their stories with

loved ones.

> Seek help from a professional counselor, a local support group of

like-minded

> people, or contact folks here. We all have stories and have

walked in

> similar shoes. If your medical team doesn't provide the

assistance and tend to

> your personal needs, seek another resource, if possible. I have

changed doctors

> a few times in 15+ years to create a network of people who really

care about

> me. You all deserve that.

>

> 6) Don't be so hard on yourself or others who don't understand.

Find joy in

> each day, if only for a few minutes. Laugh, exercise, eat

nutritiously,

> create, have hope and take naps if you can. They can make all the

difference

> for you. I used to fight fatigue, but now tuck in for a siesta

each afternoon.

> My family likes me better when I am rested.

>

> 7) Be certain to tell your health team if you suffer from symptoms

such as

> nausea, depression and incessant itching. There are solutions and

sometimes

> you have to try many remedies before you get it just right.

>

> Off my soapbox now. I feel each day is a gift and keep fighting.

We are

> all in this together.

>

> Healing Hugs,

> Anne V., WA state, stage 4 PBC/overlap AIH, age 55, dx 10/92

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video

on AOL

> Home.

> (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?

ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne,

Welcome aboard, and it's about time..............

Isn't this where you started (in ) many long years ago? I

also like the smaller, family-like feeling.

Great list, hope to see you in LV.

Hugs,

Jeannette OR PBC/AIH

[Guest guest]

Anne V

Could you give me the name of your rheumotologist?? I live in Gig

Harbor and have been to 3 without very good results.

Thanks, K

[Guest guest]

Thank you for words we all need to hear and believe in.

Wishing you many good and happy years.

Dee

[ ] Re:Nausea

Hi all of you nice people,

Just awhile ago I decided to subscribe to the list because my dear friend

Joanne is the owner/moderator.

She and I have shared many miles of our journey in life together....

I have just been lurking the past few weeks, but enjoy this more " intimate "

group's postings and have learned new things.

I was diagnosed with early Stage 1 PBC in October 1992 and with possible AIH

overlap. Here we are nearly 16 years later and I have progressed to Stage

4, but recently my hepatologist reported that all my blood tests were normal!

That doesn't mean that I am " home free " because I do have symptoms, some

which are not exactly pleasant, but I am blessed to live a fairly active life.

Initially diagnosed I was scared and depressed. With the help of family,

close friends, the medical community and my involvement in local and national

PBC support groups, I know there is always hope.

I saw a Rheumatologist last year and he really " listened " to my concerns and

gave me some great suggestions to deal with chronic illness.

I will share my list for coping:

1) Don't let medical professionals intimidate you. If you are not

comfortable at appointments, take a written list of questions to your

appointments, a

trusted family member or friend. Some medical facilities employ patient

advocates if you ask the administration for help. They will go to bat for you,

if

you ask nicely.

2) Autoimmune liver disease should not define who you are, but rather is a

part of a new way of living and coping. Know where to ask for help and if you

don't receive reasonable support, ask those of us who are living it. Family

members are not always able to be there totally. Consider how fearful they

may be and that emotionally it is not always so easy to understand how you

have changed.

4) Knowledge is power. Educate yourself on the latest research or ask for

" translation " of medicalese! Is that a word? Also, not everyone in your life

needs to know all about your illnesses, but at least communicate to them

that you do have chronic medical conditions that limit your choices and

lifestyle. I have read some excellent literature regarding coping with chronic

diseases. Feel free to e-mail me for titles.

5) Some people are not comfortable sharing their stories with loved ones.

Seek help from a professional counselor, a local support group of like-minded

people, or contact folks here. We all have stories and have walked in

similar shoes. If your medical team doesn't provide the assistance and tend to

your personal needs, seek another resource, if possible. I have changed doctors

a few times in 15+ years to create a network of people who really care about

me. You all deserve that.

6) Don't be so hard on yourself or others who don't understand. Find joy in

each day, if only for a few minutes. Laugh, exercise, eat nutritiously,

create, have hope and take naps if you can. They can make all the difference

for you. I used to fight fatigue, but now tuck in for a siesta each afternoon.

My family likes me better when I am rested.

7) Be certain to tell your health team if you suffer from symptoms such as

nausea, depression and incessant itching. There are solutions and sometimes

you have to try many remedies before you get it just right.

Off my soapbox now. I feel each day is a gift and keep fighting. We are

all in this together.

Healing Hugs,

Anne V., WA state, stage 4 PBC/overlap AIH, age 55, dx 10/92

************ **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL

Home.

(http://home. aol.com/diy/ home-improvement -eric-stromer? video=15?

ncid=aolhom00030 000000001)

[Guest guest]

I did the same increase as you. I does go away, probably within a few

more days. Try eating a meal with the pill

Drew

>

> anyone experience nausea with the LEX.. i started at 5 mg almost a

> week and a half ago and went up to 10 mg two days ago and notice

> nausea.. coffee nausea, banana nausea raisin bran NAUSEA... does

it

> go away

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Hope all is well.

>

> Just a quick question. I have been on your program for nearly eight

> weeks now. Tonight, I'm experiencing nausea for the first time since

> starting on the diet. I feel terrible! Just wondering if it could

be

> caused by die-off? I can't think what else it could be as I haven't

> eaten anything unusual. Perhaps it's the coconut oil? Let me know

if

> you have any suggestions for relieving it.

Hi Amy. There are 2 main things that can cause your nausea: 1) your

body is retracing previous stomach upsets, according to Hering's Law of

Cures, or 2) under stress your body is running on its sympathetic

nervous system which hampers digestion. If you are stressed you can do

deep breathing exercises to switch your body over to its

parasympathetic nervous system:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_4_1.php

Also during stress it is important to go on an all liquid diet, i.e.

Bee's Egg Drink, soup, broths, etc. and ensure you are taking

hydrochloric acid supplements.

To help your nausea drink raw ginger tea - the recipe is on my website.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I think Gabby is right about drinking. For me when I had a upset stomach, believe it or not Popsicles worked really well. Not the ones with sugar, but the all fruit Popsicles were my answer. Most people don't vomit, but they have what they refer to it as fleming. Is that what you are having. If you are two weeks out, try to take very small sips or bite of what you are eating. I had this habit of taking too big of a bite and I still work on that now. We spent a lifetime of eating a certain way and now we have to work at changing that. Try the Popsicles and see if they help at all.

Suzanne

In a message dated 02/08/09 17:26:00 Pacific Standard Time, knkloth@... writes:

Hi All I'm two weeks out from my surgery and am feeling well except for some nausea. I haven't actually gotten sick, but I'm getting pretty frustrated with feeling sick to my stomach. I have to go back to work tomorrow, and am wondering if anyone else had this problem and if you found any miracle cures... otherwise it may be a rough day.I spoke with Gaby and she suggested it may be because I am drinking too fast, but I feel this way right when I wake up too and before I drink anything too so I'm not sure that's all there is to it.I'm open to any suggestions anyone might have... I'd really appreciate it. On the up side I am already down about 25 pounds and I am so happy that I did this. I have never been treated better by a doctor and his staff than I was with Dr. A's team.Thanks in advance,

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi All,

>

> I'm almost on the diet 4 weeks now. I am really struggling with missing my

more varied diet. It's not cravings so much as enjoying lots of flavor and

texture combinations. But I'm combing the recipes and staying committed. (If

anyone has any other great recipes they want to share, I would be thrilled if

you sent them to me off-list.) Oh and before I forget: Where can I find the fake

ice cream recipe I hear people talk about?

>

> Anyway, I have gone slowly up on the fats, up 1 t. of CO every 4 days as

recommended. It seems like once I got to 2 T CO, I'm experiencing nausea after

my egg drink every morning. I think I read this is die-off and have been taking

HCL but it hasn't resolved.

>

> I haven't really calculated my fat ratios because I know I have a ways to go

on upping those still. Any other thoughts or suggestions?

>

> Chris

>

*** I am feeling the same way...wishing for different foods. I am on day 13. I

recently discovered a treat that I am thoroughly enjoying and hoping there is

nothing wrong with it. I melt 1 tbs of butter and add 1-2 tbs of pecans and add

a dash of cinnamon and stevia. I really like this one. Almost like dessert.

Heidi

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm experiencing nausea after my egg drink every morning.

Hi

Welcome to the group and the diet. I also do and have experienced a lot of

nausea but I have found that taking two little cinnamon pills helps tremendously

with my nausea. Cinnamon pills are also anti fungal and help curb cravings.

Hope it will help you too.

[Guest guest]

>

> Welcome to the group and the diet. I also do and have experienced a lot of

nausea but I have found that taking two little cinnamon pills helps tremendously

with my nausea. Cinnamon pills are also anti fungal and help curb cravings.

Hope it will help you too.

>

>

Where do you get the Cinnamon pills from and are they called Cinnamon Pills?

Cheers

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Interesting. Where do I find cinnamon pills?

Chris

>

> Hi

> I also do and have experienced a lot of nausea but I have found that taking

two little cinnamon pills helps tremendously with my nausea.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi All,

>

> I'm almost on the diet 4 weeks now. I am really struggling with missing my

more varied diet. It's not cravings so much as enjoying lots of flavor and

texture combinations. But I'm combing the recipes and staying committed. (If

anyone has any other great recipes they want to share, I would be thrilled if

you sent them to me off-list.) Oh and before I forget: Where can I find the fake

ice cream recipe I hear people talk about?

+++Hi Chris. That recipe is on my Candida Recipes Group, and it is called Bee's

Egg Drink Ice Cream:

Recipes_For_Candida_Healing/message/223

>

> Anyway, I have gone slowly up on the fats, up 1 t. of CO every 4 days as

recommended. It seems like once I got to 2 T CO, I'm experiencing nausea after

my egg drink every morning. I think I read this is die-off and have been taking

HCL but it hasn't resolved.

+++You may need to increase your CO more slowly. Increasing it every 4 days is

an example of how to increase it, but you need to judge increases by your

die-off symptoms.

+++I suggest you cut back on the amount of CO and take more time to increase it.

+++When you get nauseated mix 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda into 4-5 ounces of

water and sip it slowly; stop sipping when your nausea subsides.

+++I don't recommend taking cinnamon pills to help with your nausea, since it is

antifungal which will increase die-off symptoms. Also eggs are antifungal so

you should start with 1 egg and slowly increase them too.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

Your treat sounds delish! Thanks so much for sharing. I'm unsure if pecans are

okay. (Someone else will have to chime in.) I know nuts must be soaked and

oven-dried, which I do w/walnuts. I would love to have pecans.

Chris

I recently discovered a treat that I am thoroughly enjoying and hoping there is

nothing wrong with it. I melt 1 tbs of butter and add 1-2 tbs of pecans and add

a dash of cinnamon and stevia. I really like this one. Almost like dessert.

> Heidi

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi All,

>

> I'm almost on the diet 4 weeks now. I am really struggling with missing my

more varied diet. It's not cravings so much as enjoying lots of flavor and

texture combinations. But I'm combing the recipes and staying committed. (If

anyone has any other great recipes they want to share, I would be thrilled if

you sent them to me off-list.) Oh and before I forget: Where can I find the fake

ice cream recipe I hear people talk about?

>

> Anyway, I have gone slowly up on the fats, up 1 t. of CO every 4 days as

recommended. It seems like once I got to 2 T CO, I'm experiencing nausea after

my egg drink every morning. I think I read this is die-off and have been taking

HCL but it hasn't resolved.

>

> I haven't really calculated my fat ratios because I know I have a ways to go

on upping those still. Any other thoughts or suggestions?

>

> Chris

Hi Chris

4 weeks, good job. I conditioned meself early on when I missed my former foods

and made strength by remembering that those former foods put me in bad health

and there are many new foods that will taste great once you have grown accustom

to them. Nausea after eating good food? That's a good thing. You can reduce

that. I would reread the cravings part and stay the course.

Neal

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Where do you get the Cinnamon pills from and are they called Cinnamon Pills?

>

> Cheers

>

Basically any supplement that has 100mg of " cinnamomum aromaticum Bark " and

300mg of " Bark extract 10:1, Yealding 8% Flavonoids. I used to buy " Planetary

Herbals " but now I'll change to anther brand after getting two batches that had

gone bad....

[Guest guest]

Joy, I was experiencing all those symptoms, except the cracks of mouth and hives for the past few months. I found out a few weeks ago I have celiac disease. As soon as I went on gluten free diet, most of my symptoms went away. There is a skin condition that can go along with celiac disease, but I can't remember what the name is. Ruth

[Guest guest]

>

> What might be the cause of feeling nauseous & throwing up in the morning? Our

4 yr old son does it about once a month & has for a while. I associate it with

him not eating enough at dinner - if it's not something he wants, he'll say he's

not hungry. My husband thinks it's too many fats. He does not like this high

fat, low sugar diet, especially for our son. We are not fully on Bee's Diet,

since we are fighting for the opportunity to try it, but I do limit our sugar

intake. DH says carbs provide many nutrients that our son needs. I am journaling

our food intake from time to time to prove to him that we are getting the

nutrients that we need, but he is not convinced.

>

+++Hi Gennifer. I'm sorry but I wouldn't be able to advise you why your son

gets nausea in the morning since he isn't on my program. That is because people

on my program have predictable symptoms and reactions which are healing and

detoxifying symptoms. Otherwise I'd be remise in advising you.

Carbs do not contain any nutrients that are essential for humans, which are not

found in meats, eggs and good fats. Otherwise the Eskimos wouldn't have been so

healthy on an all meat and fat diet:

http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson1.htm

Also 58% of meat and 10% of fat can change into glucose inside the body for

blood sugar requirements.

Here's articles about the dangers of carbs:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu3_2_1.php

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Bee!

My son & I are both taking the recommended supplements, except vit c, which

we'll add soon. Interestingly, he can take full children's doses of all of them

with the coconut oil, palm oil, & butter - without any healing reactions,

whereas I've cut back on the fats until my body adjusts to the extra nutrients,

then I'll slowly build up the fats to therapeutic levels. I think that says a

lot about his health & mine.

As far as my son feeling nauseous & throwing up, that has been going on for a

long time, about once/month. Actually, the last time he felt ill, I gave him

half a cup of our egg nog, then he laid down & slept a while & never threw up!!

So, I'll try that again next time.

> >

> > What might be the cause of feeling nauseous & throwing up in the morning?

Our 4 yr old son does it about once a month & has for a while. I associate it

with him not eating enough at dinner - if it's not something he wants, he'll say

he's not hungry. My husband thinks it's too many fats. He does not like this

high fat, low sugar diet, especially for our son. We are not fully on Bee's

Diet, since we are fighting for the opportunity to try it, but I do limit our

sugar intake. DH says carbs provide many nutrients that our son needs. I am

journaling our food intake from time to time to prove to him that we are getting

the nutrients that we need, but he is not convinced.

> >

> +++Hi Gennifer. I'm sorry but I wouldn't be able to advise you why your son

gets nausea in the morning since he isn't on my program. That is because people

on my program have predictable symptoms and reactions which are healing and

detoxifying symptoms. Otherwise I'd be remise in advising you.

>

> Carbs do not contain any nutrients that are essential for humans, which are

not found in meats, eggs and good fats. Otherwise the Eskimos wouldn't have

been so healthy on an all meat and fat diet:

> http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson1.htm

>

> Also 58% of meat and 10% of fat can change into glucose inside the body for

blood sugar requirements.

>

> Here's articles about the dangers of carbs:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu3_2_1.php

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Great advice and very well said!On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:33 PM, vew <vew459@...> wrote:

 

For nausea try a cup of peppermint herbal tea with a couple of crackers. When feeling dizzy, move slowly getting up and lying down..try to get some walking into your routine, slow baby steps, circulating the blood full of fresh air brings oxgyen to the blood which gets everything cleansed and flushed,and energized!! Hang in there!! cross that bridge when you get there, only plan and prepare ahead of time so that you can cross each bridge loaded with amo!! vew459

vew459@...

[Guest guest]

I am not going to take my 1.5mg every day because of the nausea and my body

needs a break to rest. When I took ALA, I think it bothered me because it was

moving heavy metals around in my body. joyce