DOSAGE

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Can I ask why you worked up to this dose? I am particularly interested

because I am on 20mg now and have a gastric bypass and usually need more of a

dose

to have the same effect. I know 20 is double the reccomended dose and I am

hoping it will be enough. I am just wondering why you worked up to 40? Thanks!

40 mg here

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks for answering my question...I didn't want to pry too much! I am on 20

now but have a gastric bypass and don't know if it will be enough. I usually

need alot more to get the desired effect. I was up to 80mgs of Paxil for the

desired effect....which I hate because it is going to take so long to get off

it.

Anyway....I am on 400 mgs of Wellbutrin too...that won't change. That seemed

to wake me up when I first started using it but that wore off. I hate to say

it but I always seem to feel apathetic - I guess I don't ever expect to feel

" good " - I would like to just feel less hopeless and like I can do what I need

to do. I guess I should expect more, but I don't - so far, I am not feeling

much better on Lex, but it has only been a few weeks. And that Paxil withdrawl

really sucks.

I am glad your liver is in good shape....I worry about mine...I take way too

much Tylenol....I take Milk Thistle to help my liver. Neurontin was talked

about for me....I have a feeling I'll be working on the right combo for a few

months.

Good luck with the Lex and thanks again for answering my question.

Hi ,

I worked up to 40mgs because I complained that I was totally apathetic, I

wasn't particularly sad though I did have times where I would drop into " the

pit " but they were short lasting and not unexplainable. So the pdoc was

feeling a bit helpless, he'd already upped my wellbutrin to 400, I'm on 300

of topamax for bipolar2 so he suggested trying this. I weigh approx. 330

lbs and had a good 10 year run of heavy drinking and drug use so he says my

liver is " sturdy " probably cutting down on absorption. My liver is

amazingly in good health since in the late 80s one doctor had said I had

cirrhosis of which there is no evidence now. I also have a 'script for

neurontin 600 mgs 3 times a day as needed for anxiety, which I personally

blame for the apathy and want to stop taking them, I have been using them in

far heavier dosages than prescribed and need to taper off, it's an issue.

I'm better off without them, they were a temporary thing and he keeps

extending them at my request because according to the books neurontin is not

addicting. LOL, anything that you can put in your body and feel different

shortly after can be addicting in some ways to some people. Oh well, I got

a little sidetracked. Pdoc suggested he might try other things like effexor

if the 40 mgs don't work, I'm not for that, I've read too many negative

stories right here on this list to consider it, so I'm going to make these

work,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I worked up to 40mgs because I complained that I was totally apathetic, I

wasn't particularly sad though I did have times where I would drop into " the

pit " but they were short lasting and not unexplainable. So the pdoc was

feeling a bit helpless, he'd already upped my wellbutrin to 400, I'm on 300

of topamax for bipolar2 so he suggested trying this. I weigh approx. 330

lbs and had a good 10 year run of heavy drinking and drug use so he says my

liver is " sturdy " probably cutting down on absorption. My liver is

amazingly in good health since in the late 80s one doctor had said I had

cirrhosis of which there is no evidence now. I also have a 'script for

neurontin 600 mgs 3 times a day as needed for anxiety, which I personally

blame for the apathy and want to stop taking them, I have been using them in

far heavier dosages than prescribed and need to taper off, it's an issue.

I'm better off without them, they were a temporary thing and he keeps

extending them at my request because according to the books neurontin is not

addicting. LOL, anything that you can put in your body and feel different

shortly after can be addicting in some ways to some people. Oh well, I got

a little sidetracked. Pdoc suggested he might try other things like effexor

if the 40 mgs don't work, I'm not for that, I've read too many negative

stories right here on this list to consider it, so I'm going to make these

work,

Re: Dosage

Hi,

Can I ask why you worked up to this dose? I am particularly interested

because I am on 20mg now and have a gastric bypass and usually need more of

a dose

to have the same effect. I know 20 is double the reccomended dose and I am

hoping it will be enough. I am just wondering why you worked up to 40?

Thanks!

40 mg here

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/13/03 5:24:19 AM, GWM in Hollywood <

gwminhollywood@...>wrote:

> So if more than 10 mg has no effect, why are so many

> of us taking more than 10 mg?

>

> If I have been taking 10 mg for 7 weeks (just upped it

> to 15 mg) after starting with 5 mg for 2 weeks (total

> of 2 months on Lexapro) and I am STILL very depressed,

> does that mean Lexapro is not going to work for me?

>

> How is this possible if Celexa DID work for me at the

> 40 mg dose (I had to get off of Celexa because of side

> effects).

>

> -david

>

, that's an excellent question. For most drugs -- use ibuprofen as an

example -- more works better. One Advil doesn't work? Take two. General

practitioners don't get much study in psychotropic drugs.

In psychotropic drugs, it's very hard to predict what will happen for each

person because every one is different. For some people Zoloft is a wonder drug;

for others, it's a nightmare.

Many people are taking more than 10 mg of Lexapro because the thinking is

that more must be more effective. It's true of some of the drugs, and in fact,

Forest believed it of Lexapro originally (which is why it makes 20 mg tablets).

The NEW research is showing, however, that Lexapro doesn't work that way.

There are others like that too.

Of you've been on Lexapro for a total 9 weeks and still *VERY* depressed, as

you said, then you need to swtich to another drug... It's very possible that

Celexa worked and Lexapro didn't, even though they are basically the same drug,

because when the molecule was cut in half, the part they took out was the

part that helped you. It's my opinion that if 10mg of Lexapro doesn't have ANY

effect on you, then neither will 15. Remember 10 mg Lexapro = 40 mg of Celexa,

so 15 mg L = 60 mg C. Seems obvious that it won't work.

I am with you on the side effect issue, though... but if you're getting no

therapeutic effect either, then maybe try a different route. Ask your doctor

about Effexor, which combats depression through a combination of

neurotransmitters, or Prozac, which has, interestingly enough, one of the better

side effect

profiles.

I hope this helps you some. Depression is complex, but it helps doctors to

know what helped and what didn't.

Also, Nina Klein <littletimmy_99@...> wrote:

<<Thanks, - I also stopped taking 15 mg of lexapro and now down to 10

and still feel pretty good on it. Hoping to lose some of the weight I put on.>>

Hey Nina... the original thought for both Celexa and Lexapro was that neither

caused weight gain... but again, we're finding more out about this drug all

the time... and on a lot of patients, it IS causing weight gain (I am one of

them). The scariest part of the research -- and i am not trying to scare anyone

-- is that they are finding that SSRI-induced weight gain is difficult to

reverse. I hope you can find an answer... I'm a Texas carnivore and I've started

eating fruit for breakfast and lunch to lose weight... hehehe

I'm on 10 mg, but am slolwly weaning myself down to 5... then maybe off

completely. I have panic disorder, not depression, so I am thinking that my

other

drugs (Klonopin, Gabitril), are doing the trick and not Lexapro. We'll see what

happens.

Wishing you all the best,

in Houston

[Guest guest]

Perhaps I missed it. Can someone cite the research that is

appearently being discussed here that says more than 10mg have no

effect?

-

> > So if more than 10 mg has no effect, why are so many

> > of us taking more than 10 mg?

[Guest guest]

This was quite the informative post, thank you. I'm still kind of confused

though - I don't want to sound stupid either. I started with 10mg and it did

nothing for me for the two weeks I was on that dose. So on my follow up visit my

doctor upped my dosage to 20mg. I have felt/seen a change since starting on the

new dose. I know that Lexapro is less is more type thing, but does upping the

dosage really do nothing even though I've felt/seen a change? (I take Lexapro

for depression. Not sure if that makes a difference though.)

, that's an excellent question. For most drugs -- use ibuprofen as an

example -- more works better. One Advil doesn't work? Take two. General

practitioners don't get much study in psychotropic drugs.

In psychotropic drugs, it's very hard to predict what will happen for each

person because every one is different. For some people Zoloft is a wonder drug;

for others, it's a nightmare.

Many people are taking more than 10 mg of Lexapro because the thinking is

that more must be more effective. It's true of some of the drugs, and in fact,

Forest believed it of Lexapro originally (which is why it makes 20 mg tablets).

The NEW research is showing, however, that Lexapro doesn't work that way.

There are others like that too.

Of you've been on Lexapro for a total 9 weeks and still *VERY* depressed, as

you said, then you need to swtich to another drug... It's very possible that

Celexa worked and Lexapro didn't, even though they are basically the same drug,

because when the molecule was cut in half, the part they took out was the

part that helped you. It's my opinion that if 10mg of Lexapro doesn't have ANY

effect on you, then neither will 15. Remember 10 mg Lexapro = 40 mg of Celexa,

so 15 mg L = 60 mg C. Seems obvious that it won't work.

I am with you on the side effect issue, though... but if you're getting no

therapeutic effect either, then maybe try a different route. Ask your doctor

about Effexor, which combats depression through a combination of

neurotransmitters, or Prozac, which has, interestingly enough, one of the

better side effect

profiles.

I hope this helps you some. Depression is complex, but it helps doctors to

know what helped and what didn't.

[Guest guest]

Well, usually it takes about 4-6 weeks to feel the effects anyway,

so maybe the reason you felt better when you started taking more was

just because the Lex was really just starting to kick in anyway.

You probably would have started feeling the same had you stayed with

the 10mg.

> This was quite the informative post, thank you. I'm still kind of

confused though - I don't want to sound stupid either. I started

with 10mg and it did nothing for me for the two weeks I was on that

dose. So on my follow up visit my doctor upped my dosage to 20mg. I

have felt/seen a change since starting on the new dose. I know that

Lexapro is less is more type thing, but does upping the dosage

really do nothing even though I've felt/seen a change? (I take

Lexapro for depression. Not sure if that makes a difference though.)

>

>

>

>

> , that's an excellent question. For most drugs -- use

ibuprofen as an

> example -- more works better. One Advil doesn't work? Take two.

General

> practitioners don't get much study in psychotropic drugs.

>

> In psychotropic drugs, it's very hard to predict what will happen

for each

> person because every one is different. For some people Zoloft is a

wonder drug;

> for others, it's a nightmare.

>

> Many people are taking more than 10 mg of Lexapro because the

thinking is

> that more must be more effective. It's true of some of the drugs,

and in fact,

> Forest believed it of Lexapro originally (which is why it makes 20

mg tablets).

> The NEW research is showing, however, that Lexapro doesn't work

that way.

> There are others like that too.

>

> Of you've been on Lexapro for a total 9 weeks and still *VERY*

depressed, as

> you said, then you need to swtich to another drug... It's very

possible that

> Celexa worked and Lexapro didn't, even though they are basically

the same drug,

> because when the molecule was cut in half, the part they took out

was the

> part that helped you. It's my opinion that if 10mg of Lexapro

doesn't have ANY

> effect on you, then neither will 15. Remember 10 mg Lexapro = 40

mg of Celexa,

> so 15 mg L = 60 mg C. Seems obvious that it won't work.

>

> I am with you on the side effect issue, though... but if you're

getting no

> therapeutic effect either, then maybe try a different route. Ask

your doctor

> about Effexor, which combats depression through a combination of

> neurotransmitters, or Prozac, which has, interestingly enough, one

of the

> better side effect

> profiles.

>

> I hope this helps you some. Depression is complex, but it helps

doctors to

> know what helped and what didn't.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Regardless of the research....I say, if 20mg is helping you and you don't have

any side effects that bother you, stay on it. Maybe your body doesn't absorb

meds the same way someone else does...so someone else may be fine on 10 but you

need 20.

I am an extreme case because I have a gastric bypass and don't know what doseage

I'll be successful at. I am at 20mg to but don't know if that is where it will

stop. Me taking 20, doesn't mean I am absorbing 20.

> This was quite the informative post, thank you. I'm still kind of confused

though - I don't want to sound stupid either. I started with 10mg and it did

nothing for me for the two weeks I was on that dose. So on my follow up visit my

doctor upped my dosage to 20mg. I have felt/seen a change since starting on the

new dose. I know that Lexapro is less is more type thing, but does upping the

dosage really do nothing even though I've felt/seen a change? (I take Lexapro

for depression.

> Not sure if that makes a difference though.)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nope, just one bothersome side effect...

Hi ,

Regardless of the research....I say, if 20mg is helping you and you don't have

any side effects that bother you, stay on it. Maybe your body doesn't absorb

meds the same way someone else does...so someone else may be fine on 10 but you

need 20.

I am an extreme case because I have a gastric bypass and don't know what doseage

I'll be successful at. I am at 20mg to but don't know if that is where it will

stop. Me taking 20, doesn't mean I am absorbing 20.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/10/03 6:58:39 AM, robyn osterman <

orangefruitloop2001@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> When I went to 20mg of Lexapro, my dr. said that was the highest dosage you

> could go on it...Have you heard of that?? You seem to be pretty knowledgable

> about this drug...

> Has there been studies on taking more than 20mg of Lexapro?? Does it not

> work or do something to your body?? I have cut down to 10mg instead of 20mg. 

> Hopefully my anxiety attacks wont come back on that dosage...

>

> Robyn

>

Heya Robyn,

20 is the highest dosage Forest makes of Lexapro, and it's the highest I've

heard of most psychiatrists ever prescribing. The trend is now to stick with

10mg. Usually, it's the general MDs who are upping to 20, because that's a

standard practice with a large number of drugs.

20mg won't hurt you, but it's been linked to an increase in unwanted side

effects (sexual, headache, insomnia, mostly) without giving you an increased

benefit.

If you're at 20, try cutting down to 10 slowly... go to 15 for a while, then

10...

I'm on Lex for panic attacks, and while it helps, I found that rather than

increasing the dosage of Lex, we added other drugs --- Klonopin and Gabitril --

which have proved to be a magic elixir.

Just curious -- why did you go to 20?

All the best,

[Guest guest]

I take 30mg of Lex. I have been on it since it's conception. I found that

after awhile(for me at least)20mg wasn't doing it. I have been on 30mg of

Lex for about 3 weeks now and feel better. However,I don't see going beyond

this dose. Should it not work any longer I will look into other meds.

Which is a pain. I will ride this one out til it peters out....

Jacquie

dosage

I was just wondering...any of you Lexapro users take more than 20 mg

a day? I started on 10 mg, started getting good results, then back

to blah. My dr. increased dosage to 15 mg and I feel so-so. Will my

body develop a tolerance and I'll have to keep increasing the dosage

to see any improvements?

[Guest guest]

> I was just wondering...any of you Lexapro users take more than 20

mg

> a day? I started on 10 mg, started getting good results, then

back

> to blah. My dr. increased dosage to 15 mg and I feel so-so. Will

my

> body develop a tolerance and I'll have to keep increasing the

dosage

> to see any improvements?

Hmmm, My Pdoc raised me up to 30mg per day. He also gave me Remeron

which I stopped taking after a month due to sides. I have been

wondering if my 30mg dosage is too much. The raises in doses came

after recent multiple stressors, with increased anxieties and

depression. Have been thinking of

tappering down anayway! The more I read about ALL these meds, the

more I am becomming unhappy about taking them!

Jeff

[Guest guest]

WOW that is a high dosage! Sorry to hear that you had a toxic seizure while

on it. Hope you are feeling better.

I have severe OCD and also have a severe intolerance to SSRI's. Talk about

insane, my previous psychiatrist kept uping the dosage of Prozac knowing

what it was doing--increasing my OCD symptoms, anxiety and panic, were off

the wall! When I complained about the side effects that I would get within

a few hours of taking it I was told that it was biologically not probable!!!

I called it the " SSRI Crisis " because that was how I felt, It was awful, I

couldn't leave the house, shook, rattled and rolled!

That was until I looked at the mean absorption rate of the medication--So I

changed psychiatrists the first chance I got and asked what was happening---

got my answer!

Now I am on a low dosage of the liquid form of Lexapro 2mg every 3 days to

avoid another " SSRI crisis " and we are increasing the dosage very slowly.

Now with the new doc, I have a good chance of tolerating the liquid Lexapro.

I have been told by anoather individual that by taking a liquid form of an

SSRI, it can be adjusted to avoid the side effects that I get from the

SSRI's I am so much happier with my new doc and I get answers to my

questions as well.

Hope you are doing better.

>From: OCD24hours@...

>Reply-Lexapro

>Lexapro

>Subject: dosage

>Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:45:46 EST

>

>I take 40 mg of Lexapro daily. I no longer take Celexa.

>

>Believe it or not, I used to take 160 mg of Celexa daily. Yes, that's

>right:

>160 mg. You can look it up on the net: 160 mg of Celexa daily is insane. No

>wonder I had a toxic seizure while on it. It was my psychiatrist's idea for

>me

>to take 160 mg daily of Celexa, not mine.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've been on a combination of 300mg Wellbutrin and

20mg Lex for about six months, and it's worked

beautifully so far. BTW, 20mg is not necessarily the

" maximum dose " -- my doc says he has taken patients up

to as much as 60mg.

--- <peacefulheart4@...> wrote:

> Hi Group,

> I have been having great success after going up to

> 20 mg's but as usual I start wondering, " what if the

> depression comes back and I'm at the maximum dosage,

> what will I do " so I am using my new found skill of

> changing my thought patterns to positive. I'm sure

> that if the depression comes back my doctor will

> probably add another, perhaps something like

> Wellbutrin which works on Dopamine and

> Norepenephrine which will bring about another

> balance. Right now I feel like my old self and am so

> thankful. It took moving up from 10 mg's to 20 mg's

> for my depression to totally go away and I had to be

> on the 20 mg's for a week or two for it to start

> working fully. I am curious, are any of you on

> something other than Lexapro in terms of another

> antidepressant?

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes I think that would be a good way to try it but you may need longer. Most practitioners will tell you that it takes 3 mos of any supplement to see real benefits. But with iodine many feel the effects in a few days.

Dosage

Like everyone else these days, I have very little money, and I'm wondering how to get the most for it. Should a 22 day supply (90 12.5 mg. tablets @ 4 [maximum] per day) of Iodoral be adequate to tell me if this will be beneficial for me?

J.

[Guest guest]

I had muscle testing done and my doctor told me to take 3 tablet or 37.5mg every 5 hours. I have been doing this almost a week and don't see any adverse effects. My blood pressure has normalized which is good. He said it could take one to three months for me to see significant results. I have lost 5lbs this week, too. He said I am using it all up in a few hours and what you don't use you pee out. So spreading it out over the day would work better than a superdose once a day. My problem is from eating uniodized salt for the last 10 years and basically causing an extreme deficiency. He did say eventually, most people are able to cut back. Since it has a direct effect on my blood pressure, he said take that dose for a month, then see what happens when I take only two tablets. If my BP stays normal, do that for a month and so on or come back in for additional muscle testing.

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From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of tanyaavera@...Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:57 PMiodine Subject: dosage

i've been on iosol 50mg a day for about 2 months now i guess - i just switched to Iodoral 12.5mg tablets and am taking 50mg per day - so far i've not noticed any difference (meaning no additional or more adverse side effects) in the 2 medications, so i'm pretty sure i'm ok taking 50mg of the Iodoral -

however, here is my question....

should i increase gradually from the 50mg to a higher dose to start seeing changes in how i feel? So far, with the Iosol liquid for several months at 50mg i've not really noticed any improvements - i still don't have a lot of energy, i still have a lot of fibrous tissues in my breasts (i've noticed no decrease at all), dry skin, inability to lose any weight, etc.. with my pcos and other issues, would it be more therapeutic for me to take 100mg for awhile to see if it made a difference?

If so, would i just continue on that dosage forever, or would i gradually scale back once my issues resolve?

tanya

[Guest guest]

If I were in your shoes I would increase and see how it goes. You will know it when it happens.

Steph

dosage

i've been on iosol 50mg a day for about 2 months now i guess - i just switched to Iodoral 12.5mg tablets and am taking 50mg per day - so far i've not noticed any difference (meaning no additional or more adverse side effects) in the 2 medications, so i'm pretty sure i'm ok taking 50mg of the Iodoral -

however, here is my question....

should i increase gradually from the 50mg to a higher dose to start seeing changes in how i feel? So far, with the Iosol liquid for several months at 50mg i've not really noticed any improvements - i still don't have a lot of energy, i still have a lot of fibrous tissues in my breasts (i've noticed no decrease at all), dry skin, inability to lose any weight, etc.. with my pcos and other issues, would it be more therapeutic for me to take 100mg for awhile to see if it made a difference?

If so, would i just continue on that dosage forever, or would i gradually scale back once my issues resolve?

tanya

[Guest guest]

125 IU

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From: mariselamateos <mariselamateos@...> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:30:00 PMSubject: Dosage

How do I know which dosage to start with any help will be great

[Guest guest]

My natureopathic doctor recommended:

1 bottle 5,000 I.U. Hucog diluted into 27ml of bacteriostactic water

(thats a regular 30ml bottle with 3ml removed/discarded)

I take a 1cc shot each morning

This bottle lasts 24-27 days

I will repeat for the second half of my treatment

So for one 43-50 day round I will be using:

2 bottles 10,000 I.U. Hucog

2 30ml bottles bacteriostatic water to mix

I have experienced absolutely NO HUNGER at all on this dosage

and have lost about a half a pound a day

34 years old, 5'9 female Started at 188pds

I think some people increase/decrease their dosage if they are experiencing

hunger or no loss from 1cc to 1.25cc or to 1.5cc or 1.75cc depending on whether

that seems to be right for their body...

[Guest guest]

Did your doctor say why he thought 185 IU each was the right dosage for you? That is what you have with these directions. That gives you 27 doses rather than 24-27 doses so I'm not sure why he gave you a range of 24-27 doses.

Two of these bottles and vials will give you 54 doses for 54 days rather than a range of 43-50 days or doses.

If one put the contents of a 5000 IU vial with the 30 mL in that bottle (not discarding anything) they would have 40 doses of 125 IU and inject .75 cc/mL each day which is what Dr. Simeons said to do.

Judith

From: saddielane <saddielane@...> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 2:50:54 AMSubject: Re: Dosage

My natureopathic doctor recommended:1 bottle 5,000 I.U. Hucog diluted into 27ml of bacteriostactic water(thats a regular 30ml bottle with 3ml removed/discarded)I take a 1cc shot each morningThis bottle lasts 24-27 daysI will repeat for the second half of my treatmentSo for one 43-50 day round I will be using: 2 bottles 10,000 I.U. Hucog2 30ml bottles bacteriostatic water to mix I have experienced absolutely NO HUNGER at all on this dosageand have lost about a half a pound a day34 years old, 5'9 female Started at 188pdsI think some people increase/decrease their dosage if they are experiencing hunger or no loss from 1cc to 1.25cc or to 1.5cc or 1.75cc depending on whether that seems to be right for their body...

[Guest guest]

what size needle are you using? (are you injecting into the muscle: 1 1/2 inch needle, or into the fat: 1/2 inch needle?)If you're using the longer needle, you could probably start with a lower dose: 125 iu. If you're using the shorter needle, I'd start at 175 iuFrom: mariselamateos <mariselamateos@...> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:30:00 PMSubject: Dosage

How do I know which dosage to start with any help will be great

[Guest guest]

No, actually, Dr Simeons did NOT inject .75cc/mL. He injected .5cc/mL. From p. 85:

"The solvent supplied is injected into the rubber-capped bottle containing the 5000 I.U. As these bottles are too small to hold more solvent, we withdraw 5 cc., inject it into an empty rubber-capped bottle and add 5 cc. of normal saline to each bottle. This gives us 10 cc. of solution in each bottle, and of this solution 0.5 cc. contains 125 I.U. This amount is convenient to inject with an ordinary syringe."

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From: ohneclue <ohneclue@...> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:29:38 AMSubject: Re: Re: Dosage

Did your doctor say why he thought 185 IU each was the right dosage for you? That is what you have with these directions. That gives you 27 doses rather than 24-27 doses so I'm not sure why he gave you a range of 24-27 doses.

Two of these bottles and vials will give you 54 doses for 54 days rather than a range of 43-50 days or doses.

If one put the contents of a 5000 IU vial with the 30 mL in that bottle (not discarding anything) they would have 40 doses of 125 IU and inject .75 cc/mL each day which is what Dr. Simeons said to do.

Judith

From: saddielane <saddielane (DOT) com>Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 2:50:54 AMSubject: Re: Dosage

My natureopathic doctor recommended:1 bottle 5,000 I.U. Hucog diluted into 27ml of bacteriostactic water(thats a regular 30ml bottle with 3ml removed/discarded)I take a 1cc shot each morningThis bottle lasts 24-27 daysI will repeat for the second half of my treatmentSo for one 43-50 day round I will be using: 2 bottles 10,000 I.U. Hucog2 30ml bottles bacteriostatic water to mix I have experienced absolutely NO HUNGER at all on this dosageand have lost about a half a pound a day34 years old, 5'9 female Started at 188pdsI think some people increase/decrease their dosage if they are experiencing hunger or no loss from 1cc to 1.25cc or to 1.5cc or 1.75cc depending on whether that seems to be right for their body...

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I'm sorry to have confused you with my post. I only meant that the 125 IU was the dose he used.

The mixing instructions she was given do not yield the recommended 125 IU but rather 185 IU as pointed out in my first paragraph.

I did not intent to state anything like only .75 cc/mL was the correct amount recommended by Dr S.

Judith

From: "apracticalidealist@..." <apracticalidealist@...> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:43:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: Dosage

No, actually, Dr Simeons did NOT inject .75cc/mL. He injected .5cc/mL. From p. 85:

"The solvent supplied is injected into the rubber-capped bottle containing the 5000 I.U. As these bottles are too small to hold more solvent, we withdraw 5 cc., inject it into an empty rubber-capped bottle and add 5 cc. of normal saline to each bottle. This gives us 10 cc. of solution in each bottle, and of this solution 0.5 cc. contains 125 I.U. This amount is convenient to inject with an ordinary syringe."

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From: ohneclue <ohneclue (DOT) com>Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:29:38 AMSubject: Re: Re: Dosage

Did your doctor say why he thought 185 IU each was the right dosage for you? That is what you have with these directions. That gives you 27 doses rather than 24-27 doses so I'm not sure why he gave you a range of 24-27 doses.

Two of these bottles and vials will give you 54 doses for 54 days rather than a range of 43-50 days or doses.

If one put the contents of a 5000 IU vial with the 30 mL in that bottle (not discarding anything) they would have 40 doses of 125 IU and inject .75 cc/mL each day which is what Dr. Simeons said to do.

Judith

From: saddielane <saddielane (DOT) com>Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 2:50:54 AMSubject: Re: Dosage

My natureopathic doctor recommended:1 bottle 5,000 I.U. Hucog diluted into 27ml of bacteriostactic water(thats a regular 30ml bottle with 3ml removed/discarded)I take a 1cc shot each morningThis bottle lasts 24-27 daysI will repeat for the second half of my treatmentSo for one 43-50 day round I will be using: 2 bottles 10,000 I.U. Hucog2 30ml bottles bacteriostatic water to mix I have experienced absolutely NO HUNGER at all on this dosageand have lost about a half a pound a day34 years old, 5'9 female Started at 188pdsI think some people increase/decrease their dosage if they are experiencing hunger or no loss from 1cc to 1.25cc or to 1.5cc or 1.75cc depending on whether that seems to be right for their body...

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Hello All

Tomorrow I'm going to our GP with my 21 year old Son who has been diagnosed with

Fibromyalgia. He is not taking any medication at all. Occassionally perhaps a

pain killer here and there but he prefers not to take anything. Often they make

him feel sick in the stomache. My question is what dosage do you think I should

ask the Doctor to prescribe to start my son on? I've read that the " desired "

dosage would be 4.5 mg but have also read that some people start at 3mg?

Any advice would be helpful. I would like to try to get this all right from the

word go.

Thank you

Regards

Eef

ps...btw we live in Australia

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In the Stanford Study for fibro doctors started patients at 4.5 mg, one patient had side effects and dropped back to 3mg, because of side effects. It has been most common with other diagnoses to start low and increase the dose every two weeks. I have fibro and chemical sensitivity, and started at 4.5 mg. I had mild headaches and vivid dreams, for a few weeks, but I felt so much better it didn't matter. The morning after my first dose, I felt like I woke up in a new body. I wish there was good science to provide guidance, but there isn't. We only have each others experiences with which to make informed decisions. There are many patients that share their experiences with fibro, including young adults on www.patientslikeme.com. 50+ patients are taking LDN. Ginny