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Hello, the website spineuniverse.com was very helpful to me. My Spine

Surgeon also had mentioned it. I hope this helps some. Penny...

Vanita <vanita_ashar@...> wrote: Hello everyone,

this is Vanita here, I just joined this group.

Haven't read any messages posted to the group, but I would like to

explain the reason behind my interest in this subject. I was just

told by a very close freind that his father who is over 60 yrs of age

has suffered from a spinal injury due to a minor accident and is now

suffering from slipdisc. I have no idea what slipdisc is about but

what shocks me is that the doctors say he will be bedridden for life,

I'm not willing to accept that and would like to learn as much as I

can about this problem.

Besides, he was a healthy man absolutely young at heart & full of

energy when I met him a few weeks back, it is just not fair that a

small accident will leave him bedridden for life.

I would appreciate comments from any medical professional or patient

who has suffered similar conditions and can help educate me about it.

I would also appreciate if someone could recommend websites that can

explain in simple language what this problem is about and what are

the treatments, chances of recovery etc.

Hoping to recieve any helpful reply.

Best Regards,

Vanita.

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Aviva wrote:

==>Hi there! Welcome to our wonderful group my friend.

>

> hi everybody--so happy and excited to be joining this group--i've

> had candida for years and have tried all sorts of things to get rid

> of it w/o success, now my poor kid has it too, about 3x as bad as

me-

> -we've always eaten healthfully and avoided antibiotix, but i guess

> twas not enough.

> right now i have just two questions--where can i find a copy of

> bee's diet and recommendations?

==>You should have been sent my main article " How to Successfully

Overcome Candida " when you joined, or you can access it by going to

our Group's website directly, and on the left-hand menu click on

Files - it will be the first Folder. There are many folders

containing files within each of them, and after the folders there are

more files as well. See the A) Candida Diet & Shopping List Folder

for handy diet lists, etc.

> and--how do i subscribe to the digest instead of individual

> postings? my day is just too short as is--but i really want to see

> what you all have to say...about everything.

==>You change your settings for this group by clicking on Edit and

change it from individual emails to Daily Digest. I will change it

for you however.

> again, so grateful y'all are out here...just to have a community

> helps enormously. thanks bee and everybody.

> love,

Love to you too!

Bee

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welcome jim. I am a new member also and i have found the most informative

information here with this group and i feel better than i have in a long time on

bee's diet.

hope it all works for you also.

sue

Jim <nekktar2000@...> wrote:

Hi:

I have been a member of this group for a while but I never actually

participated. I am 48 and have been going through some unknown health

challenges for a long long time. The doctors are of no help what so

ever.

I have very good reason to believe that Candida is the root cause of

all my problems…long story.

But anyway I have many questions and would like to learn all I can

from all of you if you don't mind.

I look forward to participating if I may.

Thanks Jim

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Welcome, Jim!

Please ask as many questions as you want. :) And you can also search the

messages on the website because there is a lot of info there.

Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.

~Friedrich Nietzsche

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Hi Jim

Ask away, but bear in mind that we must each find what suits our own

bodies. Everything suggested by someone should be carefully tried out,

being aware that it could make you ill (learned that one the hard way!).

Keen

New member

Hi:

I have been a member of this group for a while but I never actually

participated. I am 48 and have been going through some unknown health

challenges for a long long time. The doctors are of no help what so

ever.

I have very good reason to believe that Candida is the root cause of

all my problems...long story.

But anyway I have many questions and would like to learn all I can

from all of you if you don't mind.

I look forward to participating if I may.

Thanks Jim

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Great and thank you.

I got a quick question for now. How does eating cabage relate to

your health when having candida? In other words does cabage help,

does nothing, or is more harmful?

I will explain later why I ask.

Forgive me I am still learning about what this is all about.

Jim

> Hi:

>

> I have been a member of this group for a while but I never

actually

> participated. I am 48 and have been going through some unknown

health

> challenges for a long long time. The doctors are of no help what

so

> ever.

>

> I have very good reason to believe that Candida is the root cause

of

> all my problems…long story.

>

> But anyway I have many questions and would like to learn all I can

> from all of you if you don't mind.

>

> I look forward to participating if I may.

>

> Thanks Jim

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Welcome aboard Jim,

We do have a lot to figure out, but we'll get there, glad you could

join us.

elyse

On 5-Jul-06, at 6:54 PM, Jim wrote:

> I have been a member of this group for a while but I never actually

> participated. I am 48 and have been going through some unknown health

> challenges for a long long time. The doctors are of no help what so

> ever.

>

> I have very good reason to believe that Candida is the root cause of

> all my problems…long story.

>

> But anyway I have many questions and would like to learn all I can

> from all of you if you don't mind.

>

> I look forward to participating if I may.

>

> Thanks Jim

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Jim wrote:

>

> Hi:

>

> I have been a member of this group for a while but I never

actually participated. I am 48 and have been going through some

unknown health challenges for a long long time. The doctors are of

no help what so ever.

==>Hi Jim. Welcome to our group.

>

> I have very good reason to believe that Candida is the root cause

of all my problems…long story.

>

> But anyway I have many questions and would like to learn all I can

> from all of you if you don't mind.

>

> I look forward to participating if I may.

==>I look forward to your participation too Jim!

The best in health,

Bee

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Hi Candace,

I've been experiencing heart palpitations that have worried me a

little over the last 6 months. Still haven't had it checked out

because it hasn't happened for a while and doesn't happen all that

often, plus I hate going to the doctor!

I also suffer mild anxiety quite often and almost constant mild

depression. I believe these symptoms are all candida related, but of

course I can only ever be 99% sure!

ita

>

> Hi, I found out I had candida in about January when I was feeling

really lousy. I thought the

> whole thing was some problem with my heart as my M.D. diagnosed me

with high blood

> pressure, but no matter what, I actually began to feel worse:

incredible exhausting, rapid

> heart beat after eating; no will to go to work; and anxiety that

gave me (and still does) a

> feeling like I'm running out of air and I'll faint, a feeling of

shakiness and fear and sometimes

> headaches and neck pains. I's wondering if anyone else has had

heart problems as a result of

> the candida overgrowth. I never had heart problems before, but

sometimes I feel like my

> anxiety and fear of death and breathlessness come from the heart

areas and perhaps from

> Candida growing there and effecting the heart rhythm and balance

of energy there. Has

> anyone had such problems with their heart and this

fear/anxiety/faintness/shakiness/

> breathlessness? Today, I also felt a pain in my " gut " during one

of these episodes--all very

> frightening and it won't seem to go away.

>

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Candace,

I had that the first time I took treatment for a candida rash. First

application I thought I noticed a fruity smell to my urine, second application

my blood pressure went up, and then, wham, panic attack! I thought I was going

to die. I called the doctor, and pharmacist the next day, but they insisted it

could not possibly be from the creme(Mycolog II generic, which is nystatin, and

triamcinolon, a powerful steroid). I tired it one more time, and, within ten to

twenty seconds, I said to myself, " Oh my God, what have I done?! " . I began

shaking, sweating, felt like I was going to vomit, and was scared to death.

Overwhelmed is the only way I can describe it. I wanted to run, but there was

no where to run to. Plus, I thought, if I called an ambulence, I'd be dead

before it go there. It subsided, I don't even remember how long, and I was

shakey all day. I felt someone had put me inside a steel cage, and rolled me

down a hill. My heart hurt. The next day, I used Lotramin Ultra, and had a

mild reaction, and some internal oil of oregano, and had heart pain continue,

and then I got dizzy, and nauseous, and went to the ER. I was told there was

nothing wrong...tachycardia, and panic attack, and was given an Rx for Xanax,

and treated not all that well. $800, thak-you very much! I looked up

Herxheimer Reaction, which I found by accident on the internet, and saw that it

was what people refer to as die-off with candida. The doctors, and pharmacist

knew nothing about this! I sent them all copies, but never hear from any of

them(I live in a very conservative area. People here seem afraid to face the

fact that doctors aren't all knowing, and can't help all conditions, or can

actually learn anything from their patients.) I was able to go back, with fear,

and try the creme again, and only mild reaction, finished it, used another,

stronger antifungal, Spectazol generic, econozole nitrate, and my rash is pretty

well gone. I am convinced I have interenal candida, though, but went back to

the doctor who prescribed the cremes, and was told the infectuous diease people

don't belive in this stuff. Well, he had his chance. Now I'll do what I think

is appropriate. But he got me started on the right track, and my rash is gone,

so I owe him the office fees I paid him, $76, and $57, and some thanks. People

practice at the level of their comfort, and knowledge, and, if one doctor

doesn't fit, there are others, or this type of thing.

Good luck,

New Member

Hi, I found out I had candida in about January when I was feeling really

lousy. I thought the

whole thing was some problem with my heart as my M.D. diagnosed me with high

blood

pressure, but no matter what, I actually began to feel worse: incredible

exhausting, rapid

heart beat after eating; no will to go to work; and anxiety that gave me (and

still does) a

feeling like I'm running out of air and I'll faint, a feeling of shakiness and

fear and sometimes

headaches and neck pains. I's wondering if anyone else has had heart problems

as a result of

the candida overgrowth. I never had heart problems before, but sometimes I

feel like my

anxiety and fear of death and breathlessness come from the heart areas and

perhaps from

Candida growing there and effecting the heart rhythm and balance of energy

there. Has

anyone had such problems with their heart and this

fear/anxiety/faintness/shakiness/

breathlessness? Today, I also felt a pain in my " gut " during one of these

episodes--all very

frightening and it won't seem to go away.

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Morning

It could be anxiety that is causing your heart problems and anxiety is

most definitely one of the problems associated with candida.

Are you eating properly and taking the right supplements?

Keen

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Hi, I found out I had candida in about January when I was feeling really

lousy. I thought the

whole thing was some problem with my heart as my M.D. diagnosed me with

high blood

pressure, but no matter what, I actually began to feel worse: incredible

exhausting, rapid

heart beat after eating; no will to go to work; and anxiety that gave me

(and still does) a

feeling like I'm running out of air and I'll faint, a feeling of

shakiness and fear and sometimes

headaches and neck pains. I's wondering if anyone else has had heart

problems as a result of

the candida overgrowth. I never had heart problems before, but

sometimes I feel like my

anxiety and fear of death and breathlessness come from the heart areas

and perhaps from

Candida growing there and effecting the heart rhythm and balance of

energy there. Has

anyone had such problems with their heart and this

fear/anxiety/faintness/shakiness/

breathlessness? Today, I also felt a pain in my " gut " during one of

these episodes--all very

frightening and it won't seem to go away.

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Val

thanks for the welcome,

just had to be sure.

one source that i found somewhat useful is thyroid info.com

and it good to share. since the doctors don't. and i dont know that many

people who have it. so i have been at a loss for info for a long time. . and it

seems that all the books keep saying the same things.so now my best source is

groups like this.

thanks

glenna

Hi there _greaib@..._ (mailto:greaib@...) ,

It is more than okay to post info about books or articles read, preferably

with sources like e-mails address sites.

We all share little tit bits of info if we found it useful. Welcome aboard,

and hope you enjoy posting to the site.

Val

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Welcome to the group Kiley... there are several people here that are a

wealth of information! Just read the posts and learn, learn, learn!

Peace.

Char in Delaware

In a message dated 8/4/2006 5:41:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kdove@... writes:

Hi Everyone,

My name is Kiley. I am new to this group. I have been doing research on

hypothyroidism for a few months now because I have thought for years that I

have an issue with my thyroid. I am

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Kiley,

You wrote:

> ... My doctor looked at T4, T3 Uptake, T7, and TSH. He mainly looked at my T7

and TSH. My T7 was

> slightly low and my TSH was high, but my T3 Uptake was also low. ...

I hope this was not the same endocrine specialist that told you that you

were just lazy before.

The T7 test is actually a combination of the T3 uptake by resin and a

radioimmunoassay to measure T4. The two together eliminate some

confounding factors, such as birth control, cardiac, seizure, or pain

medications. There is no hormone T7; it is the name of a test for T3 and

T4 together.

Please give us actual test numbers, if you want us to comment. If TSH

was high, then 50 mcg of Synthroid is a VERY conservative beginning

dose, particularly for a female. My niece just started at 125 mcg, fully

expecting to increase further in a few weeks. However, her doctor is

also hypothyroid, so he knows how uncomfortable a tentative low dose can

be.

Also, switch to the generic before you complete the titration.

Chuck

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Candidiasis is not something you can be hospitalised for. It takes

months (possibly even years) of sticking to a strict diet and taking

supplements, probiotics, digestive enzymes and anti-fungals. It is a

change of lifestyle, not just a disease.

As far as I know, there are no definitive tests for candidiasis as

candida is found naturally in everyone's bodies. You should go off the

anti-depressants as they are bound to make the candida worse. Also, you

cannot trust doctors to treat you as most of them don't even believe

that candida overgrowth exists (unless you are HIV positive). So you

must learn to do things for yourself and take care of your own health.

It is a long road, but you learn a huge amount about how your body works

and how to look after yourself.

Good luck.

Keen

NEW MEMBER

Hi Everyone

I am a new member. I have had quite severe symptoms of possible

systemic candidiasis and wonder if anyone might advise me as to where

to start. My GP thinks i have got some kind of depression and has put

me on cipramil, but i do not feel depressed. All other blood tests and

urine tests have been normal, but he will not do a blood test for

candida antibodies which i understand is a good test for candidiasis.

Where can i get tested and whats the best way to work on a cure? Also

if it is severe would it require hospitalisation?

kind regards

Mr. Pervez Akhter

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Please, please, please... do NOT just stop taking your antidepressants, this can

be VERY dangerous. If you want to stop taking any medications, you need to check

with your physician first so that you do it safely.

Keen Venables <kvenables@...> wrote:

Candidiasis is not something you can be hospitalised for. It takes

months (possibly even years) of sticking to a strict diet and taking

supplements, probiotics, digestive enzymes and anti-fungals. It is a

change of lifestyle, not just a disease.

As far as I know, there are no definitive tests for candidiasis as

candida is found naturally in everyone's bodies. You should go off the

anti-depressants as they are bound to make the candida worse. Also, you

cannot trust doctors to treat you as most of them don't even believe

that candida overgrowth exists (unless you are HIV positive). So you

must learn to do things for yourself and take care of your own health.

It is a long road, but you learn a huge amount about how your body works

and how to look after yourself.

Good luck.

Keen

NEW MEMBER

Hi Everyone

I am a new member. I have had quite severe symptoms of possible

systemic candidiasis and wonder if anyone might advise me as to where

to start. My GP thinks i have got some kind of depression and has put

me on cipramil, but i do not feel depressed. All other blood tests and

urine tests have been normal, but he will not do a blood test for

candida antibodies which i understand is a good test for candidiasis.

Where can i get tested and whats the best way to work on a cure? Also

if it is severe would it require hospitalisation?

kind regards

Mr. Pervez Akhter

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don't go off the anti depressants until you consult with your doctor.

Keen Venables <kvenables@...> wrote: Candidiasis is not

something you can be hospitalised for. It takes

months (possibly even years) of sticking to a strict diet and taking

supplements, probiotics, digestive enzymes and anti-fungals. It is a

change of lifestyle, not just a disease.

As far as I know, there are no definitive tests for candidiasis as

candida is found naturally in everyone's bodies. You should go off the

anti-depressants as they are bound to make the candida worse. Also, you

cannot trust doctors to treat you as most of them don't even believe

that candida overgrowth exists (unless you are HIV positive). So you

must learn to do things for yourself and take care of your own health.

It is a long road, but you learn a huge amount about how your body works

and how to look after yourself.

Good luck.

Keen

NEW MEMBER

Hi Everyone

I am a new member. I have had quite severe symptoms of possible

systemic candidiasis and wonder if anyone might advise me as to where

to start. My GP thinks i have got some kind of depression and has put

me on cipramil, but i do not feel depressed. All other blood tests and

urine tests have been normal, but he will not do a blood test for

candida antibodies which i understand is a good test for candidiasis.

Where can i get tested and whats the best way to work on a cure? Also

if it is severe would it require hospitalisation?

kind regards

Mr. Pervez Akhter

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whew, glad to see you all pipe in and advise against stopping the

antidepressants. A person has to be weaned off them, at the right time. If

life was that simple, that cut and dried, we wouldn't all be here sharing

insights on this candida board. Take good care, but also, do no harm.

NEW MEMBER

Hi Everyone

I am a new member. I have had quite severe symptoms of possible

systemic candidiasis and wonder if anyone might advise me as to where

to start. My GP thinks i have got some kind of depression and has put

me on cipramil, but i do not feel depressed. All other blood tests and

urine tests have been normal, but he will not do a blood test for

candida antibodies which i understand is a good test for candidiasis.

Where can i get tested and whats the best way to work on a cure? Also

if it is severe would it require hospitalisation?

kind regards

Mr. Pervez Akhter

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Hi

In some countries there are pretty good candidiasis tests and most of the

doc's are aware of the disorder. But .. the treatment wont get any better!

The best thing is a *gradual *life stile adaptation and embreissing the idea

that one has a chronic disorder that needs to be dealt all the time.

If you are taking psychiatric medications do not just stop taking them but

treat the case if it is systemic candidiasis. It may take quite a long time

before you'll be in balance enough, to be off your meds

Hang on there !! you're not alone!!

p.s.

I've been now on the diet for three month and I am much better in so many

ways

Feel free for advises

Best regards

Janna

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sorenda2,

You wrote:

>

> My chief problem now is that I think my present doctor waits too long

> before raising the dosage. He won't do it unless the TSH results are

> at 5, but I feel the need for a higher dose long before that, from the

> way I feel. ... I wish I knew how to convince him to keep

> the TSH below 3. I'm in a very small community, so it's not easy to

> just find another doctor.

You probably won't feel well until it is 2.0 or below.

Try sending him a copy of the two following documents. They are the

recommendations of the American Society of Endocrinologists and the

National Academy of Clinical Biochemists, both calling for lowering the

range for " normal " TSH under treatment:

http://www.nacb.org/lmpg/thyroid_lmpg_pub.stm

http://thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ & sdn=thyroid & zu=http%3A%2\

F%2Fwww.nacb.org%2Flmpg%2Fthyroid_LMPG_PDF.stm

Insist on getting to the _middle_ of whatever recommended range he's

willing to accept, rather than just the upper limit. If he won't do that

and won't consider moderating the definition of the reference range, as

these professional societies recommend, then find a new doctor.

You might also want the papers here, although you probably don't want to

flood your doctor with too much at one time.

http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/tsh/tshmedrefs4.php#supp

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/osteoporosis.htm

Chuck

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Gracia

Hello, I'm new here. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 6 years ago.

I've had a tough time getting control of this disorder and hope that

discussions here can help. Initially, the doctor who diagnosed it put

me on 25 mcg of Levothyroxin without monitoring it for a year. I

didn't know that regular monitoring was necessary, so I didn't request

it. Also didn't know about taking the pills on an empty stomach and

avoiding foods that interfere with absorption. So, I took it

faithfully on my morning break with tea and peanut butter crackers and

didn't know why I kept getting worse instead of better.

That doctor lost his license for malpractice with another patient. By

the time I started seeing my current doctor, my vision was much worse,

I had almost no eyebrows, couldn't focus or concentrate in simple

conversations, had gained several pounds, had elevated cholesterol, and

my blood pressure had gone from 110/70 to 140/90. This doctor

meticulously does blood work every 3 months. I'm now on 125 mcg

Levothyroxine and 5 mg Caduet for blood pressure and cholesterol.

My chief problem now is that I think my present doctor waits too long

before raising the dosage. He won't do it unless the TSH results are

at 5, but I feel the need for a higher dose long before that, from the

way I feel. I just had a blood profile done last week, which showed

TSH levels at 3. My hair's thinning a little and I'm starting to gain

again, as well as feeling less energy, but the doctor said I'll have to

wait to see what the next bloodwork shows in 3 months before he'll

consider raising the dose. I wish I knew how to convince him to keep

the TSH below 3. I'm in a very small community, so it's not easy to

just find another doctor.

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The new upper limit for normal people has been dropped to around 3.

However, once someone has been diagnosed as hypothyroid it is commonly

reported by those patients that they do not obtain relief until the TSH

readings are close to zero. Maybe you can research this info on the net

and present it to your doc?

I believe that Chuck has addressed this issue on the Faq. that he

created for this list. Chuck??

New member

<hypothyroidism/message/25855;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMGc0cG5\

vBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE2MDQyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMjU4NTUEc2V\

jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE2MDExMTU0OA-->

Posted by: " sorenda2 " smmill88@...

<mailto:smmill88@...?Subject=Re:%20New%20member> sorenda2

<sorenda2>

Thu Oct 5, 2006 2:47 pm (PST)

Hello, I'm new here. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 6 years ago.

I've had a tough time getting control of this disorder and hope that

discussions here can help. Initially, the doctor who diagnosed it put

me on 25 mcg of Levothyroxin without monitoring it for a year. I

didn't know that regular monitoring was necessary, so I didn't request

it. Also didn't know about taking the pills on an empty stomach and

avoiding foods that interfere with absorption. So, I took it

faithfully on my morning break with tea and peanut butter crackers and

didn't know why I kept getting worse instead of better.

That doctor lost his license for malpractice with another patient. By

the time I started seeing my current doctor, my vision was much worse,

I had almost no eyebrows, couldn't focus or concentrate in simple

conversations, had gained several pounds, had elevated cholesterol, and

my blood pressure had gone from 110/70 to 140/90. This doctor

meticulously does blood work every 3 months. I'm now on 125 mcg

Levothyroxine and 5 mg Caduet for blood pressure and cholesterol.

My chief problem now is that I think my present doctor waits too long

before raising the dosage. He won't do it unless the TSH results are

at 5, but I feel the need for a higher dose long before that, from the

way I feel. I just had a blood profile done last week, which showed

TSH levels at 3. My hair's thinning a little and I'm starting to gain

again, as well as feeling less energy, but the doctor said I'll have to

wait to see what the next bloodwork shows in 3 months before he'll

consider raising the dose. I wish I knew how to convince him to keep

the TSH below 3. I'm in a very small community, so it's not easy to

just find another doctor.

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I see you're way ahead of me. Please ignore my previous post.

Re: New member

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hBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE2MDQyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMjU4NjEEc2V\

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<mailto:gumboyaya@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20New%20member>

gumbo482001 <gumbo482001>

Thu Oct 5, 2006 4:47 pm (PST)

sorenda2,

You wrote:

>

> My chief problem now is that I think my present doctor waits too long

> before raising the dosage. He won't do it unless the TSH results are

> at 5, but I feel the need for a higher dose long before that, from the

> way I feel. ... I wish I knew how to convince him to keep

> the TSH below 3. I'm in a very small community, so it's not easy to

> just find another doctor.

You probably won't feel well until it is 2.0 or below.

Try sending him a copy of the two following documents. They are the

recommendations of the American Society of Endocrinologists and the

National Academy of Clinical Biochemists, both calling for lowering the

range for " normal " TSH under treatment:

http://www.nacb.org/lmpg/thyroid_lmpg_pub.stm

<http://www.nacb.org/lmpg/thyroid_lmpg_pub.stm>

http://thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ & sdn=thyroid & zu=http%3A%2\

F%2Fwww.nacb.org%2Flmpg%2Fthyroid_LMPG_PDF.stm

<http://thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ & sdn=thyroid & zu=http%3A%\

2F%2Fwww.nacb.org%2Flmpg%2Fthyroid_LMPG_PDF.stm>

Insist on getting to the _middle_ of whatever recommended range he's

willing to accept, rather than just the upper limit. If he won't do that

and won't consider moderating the definition of the reference range, as

these professional societies recommend, then find a new doctor.

You might also want the papers here, although you probably don't want to

flood your doctor with too much at one time.

http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/tsh/tshmedrefs4.php#supp

<http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/tsh/tshmedrefs4.php#supp>

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/osteoporosis.htm

<http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/osteoporosis.htm>

Chuck

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Hello ,

I don't know the answer to your question. Just want to say I'm happy

you finally got a correct diagnosis and hope treatment will now bring

you relief.

I'm resonating with your message because I have been 'harrassing' a

couple of people also to get appropriate testing. unsuccessfully so

far. Good for you and your friend.

ellen

>

> Hello Everyone. My name is and I'm new to the group. I've

was

> diagnosed with MS in Dec of 05'. I've had MS like symptoms for 7

or

> 8 years now. A friend of mine has been harassing me for 2 years

now

> to get tested for Lyme through Igenex. Like most people I've been

> tested for Lyme a few times during those 6 or 7 years and they've

all

> come back negative. About a month ago I decided to listen to my

> friend's advice and have another test done through Igenex. The

IgG

> Western Blot came back positive showing 3 bands. I was stunned

when

> I received the news. Right now I'm trying to set up an

appointment

> to go see a LLMD. I live in northern MA and we have a couple in

the

> area. I'm concerned about the new guidelines the IDSA has

> published. Do you guys think I'll run into trouble receiving

proper

> treatment?

>

> All The Best,

>

>

>

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,

Many of the things you have mentioned fit candida to a T. I also had

incredible brain fog and fatigue and craving and difficulty concieving, regular

bladder/sinus/ear infections and many other things. You need this program to

get better. Brown rice and bread are not allowed on this diet as they feed the

candida.

It's no surprise that when you took the Diflucan anti-fungal which kills off

candida that you started getting better. That's a clear sign you have candida.

This diet does a better job at clearing out the candida. First you starve the

candida of their food source (sugar) while giving your body what it really needs

- protein, fat and high nutrient veggies.

Then you use antifungals when you body is a bit more healed and can handle die

off better, and then repopulate your gut with good bacteria. This is all done

in steps and stages so that you don't overwhelm your body or get severe

symptoms. Many people try to do too much too fast.

There are ways to eat on this diet cheaply and simply. You can get a max-pack

of chicken, throw it in the oven with some salt and pepper, and you have chicken

for days. This is simple.. just about anyone can do that. You can steam

veggies and throw butter and sea salt on top.

As far as the prescriptions you are taking, I wouldn't say stop taking them,

but I would tell you to get your blood levels checked regularly. I have had my

thyroid levels raise on this diet. So you might find that you need to lower

your doses eventually/gradually.

If it's hard for you to get on this program you can do so gradually. I

followed a regular low carb plan before this, and I gradually took out low carb

treats, dairy, coffee, mayo, nuts and a few other things over a 4 month period.

Because I did this really slowly, it really had become a lifestyle change for me

and I never dealt with severe die-off.

As far as the coconut oil, try just a tiny amount for starters, and gradually

add more. You can cook with it or melt it over your meat and veggies. Hope that

helps...

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Ives <mives@...> wrote:

Hello there, I'm new to this list. I've been perusing the files, and while I

would love to follow this program, I don't think I will be able to follow it to

the letter.

I'll try to be brief with my background. Back in the mid 1980's, I had a run of

bladder infections, I was getting them approximately every other month, so was

on a lot of antibiotics. I stopped using a diaphragm for birth control, and the

bladder infections slowed down to maybe 2 a year. I started taking cranberry

daily, and have been able to keep them away (now I' mreading that they could

have been caused by candida, though e-coli was found many times in the labwork).

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit. We

develop it by practice. --Aristotle

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

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