Guest guest Posted March 15, 2000 Report Share Posted March 15, 2000 Hi, I am forwarding a message that I have just recieved from Bob Walberg, who is the President, I believe, of Omgaflo, the first company in the Americas to produce Flaxseed Oil. He told me in another earlier message that they provide Flaxseed Oil for the Gerson treatment centers. They will sell it at that price to members of the FlaxSeed Oil list and, in all probability, to members of Cancercure. I do not know what that price would be, as I have no personal experience in this area. The also advocate Kefir with it. I don't know anything about Kefir so I am forwarding his message. Cliff RE: Kefir >Dear Cliff, >Thank you for your interest in Kefir. True Kefir is a unique blend of 5 >beneficial bacteria and 2 beneficial yeasts. This product can greatly help >building the inner ecosystem of the human body. It has been proven effective >in Candida along with helping restore any body that is in the healing mode. >We have researched and found the genuine kefir and have it available either >through our web site http://www.omeganutrition.com or at 800 661 3529. Also >please check out the kefir site at http://www.kefir.net/ the best site on >the net for kefir information. >Hope I have been helpful. >Thank you Cliff. >Sincerely, >Bob Walberg > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2000 Report Share Posted March 15, 2000 In a message dated 03/16/2000 12:17:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, spinner@... writes: << Hi, I am forwarding a message that I have just recieved from Bob Walberg, who is the President, I believe, of Omgaflo, the first company in the Americas to produce Flaxseed Oil. He told me in another earlier message that they provide Flaxseed Oil for the Gerson treatment centers. They will sell it at that price to members of the FlaxSeed Oil list and, in all probability, to members of Cancercure. I do not know what that price would be, as I have no personal experience in this area. The also advocate Kefir with it. I don't know anything about Kefir so I am forwarding his message. Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Bob Walberg <walberg@...> Cli >> Do you really believe in Flax oil Mike Bullington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 whats Kefir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 In a message dated 06/28/2001 10:54:55 PM Central Daylight Time, Peaches14845@... writes: > whats Kefir? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Go here and if you don't want to read about his life, skip to the bottom and he tells many things about kefir, rejuvalac etc. Interesting. Edith http://www.chariot.net.au/~dna/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 Merely re-read entirely the page on that website, it has answers to all your questions. http://www.box.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Real kefir is, not only, ok for candida, but also a good source of beneficial bacteries. In addition to a great taste, this is the best milk-derived product on a bacteriological pt of view. You can get the kefir grains from other kefir users, since these grains slowly grow, I could send you some when I'll have spare ones if u want. Just disregard any commercial pseudo-kefir, these may taste a bit like real kefir, but without the benefits. Philippe At 20:55 20/10/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >the website says kefir has a yeast smell? does it >have yeast in it? where do you get it? it is ok for >candida? i am so full of questions today! >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2002 Report Share Posted June 18, 2002 thanks, cathy. Will give it a try. Interesting, about the temperatures. What do you know about buttermilk? My grandma used to drink it. Adrienne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 Kefir is very helpful for improving condition of intestinal flora thus correcting any constipation or diarrhea. I am very happy with it and highly recommend it. Nil Kefir | If some of you have a problem with excessive gas and indigestion Kefir may | help. Kefir has different organisms than yogurt. When you make Kefir it | grows at room temperature. Yogurt needs a warmer 110 degrees F to grow | properly. Our bodies are not that hot! You want to try to populate your | intestines with " good " organisms that foster healthy flora. Kefir seems to | help a lot. It has worked for me, I just drink a bit in the AM and PM. If I | have a problem after a meal I find about 1/4 cup of Kefir seems to settle my Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2002 Report Share Posted June 19, 2002 Buttermilk sets at room temp. too. It should be good, but is more acetic than Kefir. Lots of folks like it though, but to be good it should have active cultured and not be pasteurized after it's made. Kefir is available at most grocery stores these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 Kefir looks good. Especially for me since I have gut problems. The Helios brand which is ready made contains FOS (whatever that is). Dr. Cheney says to not get probiotics w/ FOS. I am wondering if the FOS would be a reason not to try kefir. Mike C. -- In @y..., " Yildiz " <ng2113@s...> wrote: > Hi everbody, > Today I wanted to mention you about Kefir. I have been using it for more than 5 years and without it I believe I would be much worse now. > I was just making a search about it and came across the following link.Just wanted to pass this info to you. > > http://www.kefir.net/kefir5.htm > > nil > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 Hi All, kefir seems like it would be a good thing for people with CFS. I would like to learn more about it. I think that I have candida and I would like to know if kefir could help the condition or make it worse. Thanks Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 Hi Mike, I use Helios Kefir in my morning smoothies. It makes them thick and yummy. I haven't noticed any problem with it. I only put about 1/2 a cup in the my smoothie then add other ingredients and soy milk. But if I want Kefir alot I've drunk 8 oz. at time and haven't noticed any ill effects. The great thing about keefir is that you can add it to carbonated spring water and it tastes like an ice-cream soda. Also it tastes alot like a shake on it's own which is much better for us pwcs. Ice-cream is one of the worst foods for us. FOS is fructooligosaccharides which is dietary fiber. In this case, it's from chicory root. I just read a great book about how animals heal themselves and many eat chicory root to clear parasites out of their digestive systems. Helios claims that FOS also stimulates the body's own bifo bacteria. Chicory leaves are called endive and raddichio and when I eat those in large amounts they cause diarrhea. However the kefir doesn't cause any discomfort for me. But I'm thinking that if doctors test pwcs for sensitivities, chicory would often come up as one. But I also wonder if that's because we often have more opportunistic parasites compared to normals. My suggestion is that you try it for yourself and see. Because it's the best company I've found that makes kefir (it doesn't have alot of other junk in it). And it's a great addition to your diet if you can tolerate it for reasons listed above plus the beneficial bacteria they add to it. Tracey yakcamp22 wrote: > Kefir looks good. Especially for me since I have gut problems. The > Helios brand which is ready made contains FOS (whatever that is). > Dr. Cheney says to not get probiotics w/ FOS. I am wondering if > the FOS would be a reason not to try kefir. > > Mike C. > > > -- In @y..., " Yildiz " <ng2113@s...> wrote: > > Hi everbody, > > Today I wanted to mention you about Kefir. I have been using it for > more than 5 years and without it I believe I would be much worse now. > > I was just making a search about it and came across the following > link.Just wanted to pass this info to you. > > > > http://www.kefir.net/kefir5.htm > > > > nil > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 I just read this message. I think kefir could exacerbate candita because it has natural sugars in it. You might try just plain yogurt until you've gotten the candita under control. To get rid of intestinal candita I've used the Candita diet a couple of times over the past 10 years. It makes me feel horrible for a long time because those buggers emit more toxins when they die but then I always start feeling much better. That's how I cleared my IBS. Tracey Mike wrote: > Hi All, > kefir seems like it would be a good thing for people with > CFS. > I would like to learn more about it. > I think that I have candida and I would like to know if kefir could > help > the condition or make it worse. > > > Thanks > > Mike > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 I Think it does help Mike as it increases the friendly bacteria and I feel much better with it.I also have Candida.Try to find the grains not ready made Kefir. I make my own kefir from Kefir grains.I can not say anything about ready made Kefir. It is also almost costless if you obtain the grains.Only cost is that of milk. Take care. Nil Re: Re: Kefir | Hi All, | kefir seems like it would be a good thing for people with | CFS. | I would like to learn more about it. | I think that I have candida and I would like to know if kefir could | help | the condition or make it worse. | | | Thanks | | Mike | | | | | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 I don't think so Tracey. I have been using it for more than 5 years and I can not live without it.You might want to make some more search about it. Thanks. Nil Re: Re: Kefir | | I just read this message. I think kefir could exacerbate candita | because it has natural sugars in it. You might try just plain yogurt | until you've gotten the candita under control. To get rid of intestinal | candita I've used the Candita diet a couple of times over the past 10 | years. It makes me feel horrible for a long time because those buggers | emit more toxins when they die but then I always start feeling much | better. That's how I cleared my IBS. | | Tracey | | | | | | | | Mike wrote: | | > Hi All, | > kefir seems like it would be a good thing for people with | > CFS. | > I would like to learn more about it. | > I think that I have candida and I would like to know if kefir could | > help | > the condition or make it worse. | > | > | > Thanks | > | > Mike | > | > | > | > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 Don't know what FOS is. I make my own Kefir from the grains. Thanks. Nil Re: Kefir | Kefir looks good. Especially for me since I have gut problems. The | Helios brand which is ready made contains FOS (whatever that is). | Dr. Cheney says to not get probiotics w/ FOS. I am wondering if | the FOS would be a reason not to try kefir. | | Mike C. | | | -- In @y..., " Yildiz " <ng2113@s...> wrote: | > Hi everbody, | > Today I wanted to mention you about Kefir. I have been using it for | more than 5 years and without it I believe I would be much worse now. | > I was just making a search about it and came across the following | link.Just wanted to pass this info to you. | > | > http://www.kefir.net/kefir5.htm | > | > nil | > | > | > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Hi Tracey, You wrote : <snip> Ice-cream is one of the worst foods for us. <end of snip> I don't know who " us " is but that sort of sweeping generalisation doesn't apply to all of the people on the list. I don't like diary products and too much of them can make me sick but the odd bit of icecream makes little difference to me every now and then. There are lots of foods that make me far sicker in smaller quantities than icecream. Green veges every day is an example - even organic ones. Dietary changes based on anti-candida and similar lines have made absolutely no benefit my M.E. and have taken up time/energy that I could have used to see friends or have a better quality of life. We don't all have a candida problem or simple straightforward food allergies. We are all different and just because something helps you it doesn't apply to everyone on this list. Wishing you all the best. Kindest regards, Annette __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Hi Annette, I know we all have different food sensitivities but some things are going to be contraindicated for our particular condition in general. When I say us, I mean pwcs. I'm under the assumption that everyone in this group is one but maybe I'm wrong. I'm new to this group at Ice-cream may not set you off but the reason it's bad for pwcs in general is because besides being loaded with sugar, (which is bad for us pwcs even if we don't have candita) it's a " heating food " in TCM terms. (Traditional Chinese Medicine) That means that even though it's a cold food it causes the body extra heat when digesting it. Pwcs already have too much heat in our bodies in TCM terms and if we can bring down the heat we feel better. Ice-cream contains transfatty acids that are difficult for our bodies to assimilate. In other words, it makes digestion more difficult for everybody, but digestion isn't an issue for everyone so I agree many people can eat ice-cream. But since pwcs are prone to IBS and extra heat , it's one of the worst foods for us. I'm not trying to dictate what people can eat or not. Just sharing what I've learned. I agree that we can't cure ourselves by watching what we eat but I have gotten rid of almost all of my IBS and it's been really nice to not have to deal with it constantly. I have more good days now that I watch everything I eat and many other sx have lessened or disappeared. For me, it's worth it. For whatever that's worth. Tracey Annette Barclay wrote: > Hi Tracey, > > You wrote : > <snip> > Ice-cream is one of the worst foods for us. > <end of snip> > > I don't know who " us " is but that sort of sweeping > generalisation doesn't apply to all of the people on > the list. > > I don't like diary products and too much of them can > make me sick but the odd bit of icecream makes little > difference to me every now and then. There are lots of > foods that make me far sicker in smaller quantities > than icecream. Green veges every day is an example - > even organic ones. > > Dietary changes based on anti-candida and similar > lines have made absolutely no benefit my M.E. and have > taken up time/energy that I could have used to see > friends or have a better quality of life. We don't > all have a candida problem or simple straightforward > food allergies. > > We are all different and just because something helps > you it doesn't apply to everyone on this list. > > Wishing you all the best. > > Kindest regards, > Annette > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 There's a ton of information on Kefir on the following site. http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html > Has anyone tried Kefir? I just started drinking a commercial brand > that I purchased at the grocery store. It's called Lifeway. I'm > drinking it twice a day, mid-afternoon and before bed. It seems to > help me sleep. I've heard it's pretty good for rebuilding good > flora. I wondered if anyone had experience with it? > > Thanks, > > Lynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 Kefir?????????????????? What is kefir??? From: " lynne0312 " <lblanchard65@...> Reply-candidiasis candidiasis Subject: Kefir Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:17:51 -0000 Has anyone tried Kefir? I just started drinking a commercial brand that I purchased at the grocery store. It's called Lifeway. I'm drinking it twice a day, mid-afternoon and before bed. It seems to help me sleep. I've heard it's pretty good for rebuilding good flora. I wondered if anyone had experience with it? Thanks, Lynne _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2003 Report Share Posted August 20, 2003 Hi andycrissy I bought some from whole foods not to long ago while I was in L.A.. Did not try it long enough to really notice anything. From: " andychrissy2000 " <andychrissy2000@...> Reply-candidiasis candidiasis Subject: Kefir Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:43:33 -0000 Has anyone here tried drinking kefir? If so, did it help? how? _________________________________________________________________ <b>Get MSN 8</b> and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 You can **see the kefir organisms????? You can see them move around, etc!!! Oh I might have trouble eating something that looked that alive. > > The bacteria is yogurt grows and multiplies also. > > True but the kefir grains you can see and touch. > They become like little pets. : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 > You can **see the kefir organisms????? You can see them move around, > etc!!! Oh I might have trouble eating something that looked that > alive. > You can't see the microscopic organisms, but then how often do you get the chance to see microscopic organisms without the aid of a microscope. If you look up info about kefir grains you will find that they are colonies of beneficial bacteria and yeasts. The grains looks a bit like cauliflower in size and color and have a rubbery texture. The grains are cultured in milk and grow fairly rapidly allowing people to share them with other people who are interested in having and caring for kefir grains of their own. regards, Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 > So, wholemeal, homemade bread is OK?? > > Terry > Ok how? : -) That would depend on your individual state of health and what you are trying to do with your diet I suppose. regards, Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 > Okay, now this is one of the many places where this candida diet > thing is confusing, why do you think you are doing a good thing by > drinking Kefit BECAUSE it has yeast in it but avoiding bread because > it has yeast in it? > I haven't even started the Candida diet because there seems to be so > many contradictory things in it, to me anyway. Barb, Yeast comes in many many different forms. My understanding is that the yeast in kefir is a positive beneficial yeast, nothing like bakers yeast or candida. In fact, although I dont know if it's true, I read somewhere that the yeast in Kefir actually compete and consume the bad yeast in the gut. noodlydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 I did a Google search with three words: CANDIDA KEFIR YEAST and this is one of the first websites that came up. " http://home.deds.nl/~kefir/make_your_own_kefir.html " And it does look like it does some good. Kirk On Friday, July 2, 2004, at 10:30 AM, noodlydoo wrote: > > > > Okay, now this is one of the many places where this candida diet > > thing is confusing, why do you think you are doing a good thing by > > drinking Kefit BECAUSE it has yeast in it but avoiding bread > because > > it has yeast in it? > > I haven't even started the Candida diet because there seems to be > so > > many contradictory things in it, to me anyway. > > Barb, > Yeast comes in many many different forms. My understanding is that > the yeast in kefir is a positive beneficial yeast, nothing like > bakers yeast or candida. In fact, although I dont know if it's true, > I read somewhere that the yeast in Kefir actually compete and consume > the bad yeast in the gut. > > noodlydoo > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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