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* Can someone tell me how much Kefir would one have to take daily to

achieve

the intestinal benefits.

About ½ to 1 cup. But more is fine too if you can handle it. Are you talking

about real kefir and not store bought?

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* I just started using it the past few days so I'm buying it. I'm

thinking

about making my own but it sounds like work and I don't have much energy.

The commercial stuff only has a couple of cultures in it. When you make it

you get over 25.

It's dirt easy to make. You drop the grains into milk leave for 24 hours and

strain. Put the grains back in more milk and off you go. The only trick is

figuring out how many grains you need for the amount of milk. If it

separates too soon remove a bit on the next batch. Too long use less milk

till you have more grains. That's it. It needs no extra heat or attention.

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* and where you do buy your grains from?

they are usually passed around for the cost of shipping. I could give you

some. But I only ask a extra 2.00 as I need to buy some milk and grow some

extra's. I don't use them enough to get extra's. once you have them soon you

can give them away too. They just keep growing. It's pretty cool.

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Hi, my name is ,

I am new to the group so I have lots to learn. Is it safe to take home made

kefir if you have milk allergies?

thank you

Steve knight <steve@...> wrote:

* and where you do buy your grains from?

they are usually passed around for the cost of shipping. I could give you

some. But I only ask a extra 2.00 as I need to buy some milk and grow some

extra's. I don't use them enough to get extra's. once you have them soon you

can give them away too. They just keep growing. It's pretty cool.

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* its not much work, just add milk let it sit a day,

strain it and drink. you should warm the milk to room

temp, but that takes 2 minutes on the stove.

No need to warm it. It does not matter at all. kefir grains are pretty

stout.

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> No need to warm it. It does not matter at all. kefir grains are pretty

> stout.

>

Indeed they are. I have been brewing my kefir in the refrigerator for almost a

year. It

takes about a week to brew instead of 24 hours like it does at room temperature

but it

comes out thicker and smoother.

regards, Bruce

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* I am new to the group so I have lots to learn. Is it safe to take

home made kefir if you have milk allergies?

thank you

Maybe. You need to let it culture longer. If you are lactose intolerant you

can get the lactose used up. But you may react too it. Can you eat yogurt?

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Thanks for your response Steve. No, I cannot eat yogurt. I do get bad

reactions. However, the yogurt I have tried contains milk added to the

bacterial culture. Maybe if I make it mysaelf I can tolerate it.

My kefir almost died when I put the guys in the fridge. They became like rice

grains very tinny and would fragmented at the touch. They are recovering now by

using milk at room temperature.

Steve knight <steve@...> wrote:

* I am new to the group so I have lots to learn. Is it safe to take

home made kefir if you have milk allergies?

thank you

Maybe. You need to let it culture longer. If you are lactose intolerant you

can get the lactose used up. But you may react too it. Can you eat yogurt?

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Thanks for your response Steve. No, I cannot eat yogurt. I do get bad

reactions. However, the yogurt I have tried contains milk added to the

bacterial culture. Maybe if I make it mysaelf I can tolerate it.

Yogurt is usually made with milk and added powdered milk or milk solids to

make it thicker. But that's done before it is cultured. But the commercial

stuff still has lactose in it. You can tell by the carb count. Where if you

make it or kefir you can culture it longer and get rid of the extra lactose.

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My kefir almost died when I put the guys in the fridge. They became like

rice grains very tinny and would fragmented at the touch. They are

recovering now by using milk at room temperature.

Did you store them in milk? That's what I do you can get a month or so that

way between milk changes.

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> My kefir almost died when I put the guys in the fridge.

> They became like rice grains very tinny and would fragmented at the touch.

> They are recovering now by using milk at room temperature.

Hmm, that's very strange. If you had them in a reasonable amount of milk as

Steve said there is no reason having them in the fridge would do that. Lots of

people on the kefir making group make their kefir in the fridge. Kefir grains

really have to be kept in milk if they are to survive and grow. I know some

people " fast " their kefir grains in water but it is usually only for a short

period of time.

In regards to milk allergies and dairy ferments. If a person is intolerant of

lactose a longer culturing period of 48 hours or more might use up enough

lactose to make consumption possible. If the problem is with milk proteins I

understand that culturing the milk won't likely help.

regards, Bruce

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Kefir is SO SIMPLE to make you really could try making

your own. Look for dom's kefir-in-site. I got some

grains from him for $15. All you do is put them in a

jar of milk and let sit fo 24 hours or so. They

coagulate the milk then you remove the grains,

refigerate the jar and start a new jar. The grains

will grow so you can eat part of them, give a portion

away or freeze a portion for future use. I loved my

kefir but now I can't have dairy so it's out. BUMMER!

Just a thought. I've NEVER seen kefir in the stores

that didn't have fruit in it. Also, if you make your

own you can let it sit for 24 hours to get rid of the

most lactose. There is also a support group at .

Hugs, Carol B

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I can get the non-flavored Kefir at Wegmans, Whole Foods and (beleive it or

not!) Shoppers Food Warehouse! So, keep looking! But I do want to try making

it...Carol, you make it sound so easy!

Carol Brown <kalo777@...> wrote:Kefir is SO SIMPLE to make you really

could try making

your own. Look for dom's kefir-in-site. I got some

grains from him for $15. All you do is put them in a

jar of milk and let sit fo 24 hours or so. They

coagulate the milk then you remove the grains,

refigerate the jar and start a new jar. The grains

will grow so you can eat part of them, give a portion

away or freeze a portion for future use. I loved my

kefir but now I can't have dairy so it's out. BUMMER!

Just a thought. I've NEVER seen kefir in the stores

that didn't have fruit in it. Also, if you make your

own you can let it sit for 24 hours to get rid of the

most lactose. There is also a support group at .

Hugs, Carol B

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Hi Lori. It really is a no brainer. There is a kefir

support group at . You might search for it. Also

do a search for dom's kefir-in-site which has TONS of

info. Dominic is who I got my grains from. He's from

Australia. Hugs, Carol B

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Hi Lori:

I'm a Canadian who lives on the border. Can you tell me a little bit about

" Whole Foods " ? Is that an organic market or......?

Cheers - p

Re: [ ] Kefir

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> I can get the non-flavored Kefir at Wegmans, Whole Foods and (beleive it

or not!) Shoppers Food Warehouse! So, keep looking! But I do want to try

making it...Carol, you make it sound so easy!

>

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> Elaine

>

> >

> > Well ripened Kefir has large ammounts of folic acid.

>

> How would you define " well ripened " ? Mine is usually 48 hours before

> refrigeration ...

>

>

> www.life-enthusiast.com

Yes, you can culture it for 48 hours... How it's ususally done is

culture the kefir with grains for 18-24 hours, depending on temperature.

Strain out grains, and culture on a countertop for another day.

Depending on how strong you like it.

After 48 hours in any case, folic acid goes up by 100%... plus it has

other B vitamins.

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Sue,

Kefir has been great help for me for about 7-8 years of my illness. I always

said I would not be able to live this long without it. I encourage everyone

to try it. I can not use it at this point as I can not find good quality

kefir grains and also do not have any apatite for them(I have developed

problem of not being able to digest animal protein)

Good luck.

nil

kefir

Hi,

First I'll paste in part of an encouraging post that showed up on

Kefir_making today, and then I'll tell you the things I

did wrong when I started making kefir.

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In a message dated 3/12/06 1:52:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

bluesky@... writes:

> we enjoy the taste

> of kefir.

The kefir in the store seems to have a lot of sugar in it. How do you make

your kefir and how do you sweeten it, if you do?

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The story that I posted recently is the only event that I personally

have encountered.I think possibly that kefir raises the ph level.This

is congectural on my part.I have not done much research on it so far.

Short of devine intervention,there must be a reason why a person would

go from inoperable cancer,sent home to die in a matter of months ,to

being totally cancer free.We have since started taking kefir.Since

we,my spouse and I,both like yogurt,sour cream,etc.we enjoy the taste

of kefir. We mix it with freshly juiced fruit,it is delicious.

I don't think that the grains,the starter, are very expensive.Once you

have the first batch done,it just keeps on growing.

If you come across more information on the benefits,please post

them.For my part,I am thankful that something this good to eat,can be

so beneficial.

Regards

Guy

>

> I WOULD like to hear of more testimonials about KEFIR. I am

considering

> purchasing it.

>

> Ms

>

>

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Did you use sugar or tea as the substrate?

Graeme

Re: Kefir

> The story that I posted recently is the only event that I personally

> have encountered.I think possibly that kefir raises the ph level.This

> is congectural on my part.I have not done much research on it so far.

> Short of devine intervention,there must be a reason why a person would

> go from inoperable cancer,sent home to die in a matter of months ,to

> being totally cancer free.We have since started taking kefir.Since

> we,my spouse and I,both like yogurt,sour cream,etc.we enjoy the taste

> of kefir. We mix it with freshly juiced fruit,it is delicious.

> I don't think that the grains,the starter, are very expensive.Once you

> have the first batch done,it just keeps on growing.

> If you come across more information on the benefits,please post

> them.For my part,I am thankful that something this good to eat,can be

> so beneficial.

> Regards

> Guy

>

>>

>> I WOULD like to hear of more testimonials about KEFIR. I am

> considering

>> purchasing it.

>>

>> Ms

>>

>>

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It is the milk product that stimulates the growth of Kefir.I

understand that one can mix it with tea also.I have not tried this as

I enjoy it the way we use it.I recieved the kefir from a friend and

was already active and growing.

Regards

Guy

> >>

> >> I WOULD like to hear of more testimonials about KEFIR. I am

> > considering

> >> purchasing it.

> >>

> >> Ms

> >>

> >>

> >>

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