DHEA

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Debbie,

I am a 49 yrs old female and have taken DHEA for a number of months. It greatly

helped me but I have CFS/ME. It gave me a great energy boost. I never had any

side-effects. After a certain time it didn't make any difference if I took it or

not - but the progress that I had made, remained - so I never regretted. I

didn't have side-effects either although I took 2 x 50mg daily.As far as the

price is concerned, I would advice you to look around on the Web because there

used to be big differences and the powder which I took was much much cheaper

than the amounts you mention.

Good luck,

Yannic

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Van: debbie <debmcb@...>

Aan: onelist <onelist>

Datum: zondag 14 november 1999 14:47

Onderwerp: DHEA

Has anyone taken or does anyone know anything about the hormone DHEA? I was

sent an information sheet on HGH which is the growth hormone that is supposedly

the fountain of youth, but it is a liquid and costs a fortune. $1000-$1200.

per 16 ounzes whicxh is a month's supply. The health food store I go to told me

that HGH doesn't exist. Or if it does the general public can't get it.

I am 44 and really am not interested in looking youthful, but I would like

to at least feel youthful and loose these extra 20 pounds I am carrying, which

I am not loosing on the ERFYT diet. I am an O and have been on the ERFYT Diet

for 5 months now, and feel very good, but this wieght just doesn't want to come

off. I have done the thyroid testing and am taking supplements for that and am

slowly loosing about about 1 pound a week. But I am truly interested in finding

more out about the HGH or DHEA.

If anyone has any information I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

Debbie

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In a message dated 11/14/1999 8:47:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

debmcb@... writes:

> But I am truly interested in finding more out about the HGH or DHEA.

> If anyone has any information I would appreciate it.

Debbie, my rheumatologist sent me to Costco to purchase DHEA and the cost is

pretty reasonable. She prescribed taking one per day and then worked up to

3/day. I have been taking it for about two years. I did lose some weight,

mostly at the beginning, but the arthritis restricts exercising so much that

I don't think it has benefitted me as much as it could have otherwise. Doc

regales the " wisdom " of the FDA which says that DHEA is a " food supplement "

as she considers it a " powerful medicine. " The hype over it seems to say it

would fix anything from a sore throat to your sex life, so I think it depends

on who's talking.

Betsy

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Donna - go to www.modernherbalist.com and check out their GinYam - this

is dhea - but i'm not sure of the exact form - HA! and i'm taking it!

wendy

dhea

does anyone take dhea supplement what is this for, and does it work?

Donna Jean

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[Guest guest]

Not to sound stupid, but what is DHEA????? Helen

[Guest guest]

Sheri,

Listening to the body is wise.

At 05:00 PM 8/22/2003, you wrote:

>Hi Everyone:

>

>Just wondering if anyone has used DHEA to assist the Adrenals. I have

>used it two times at 25mg both times I have a headache and my back aches

>as well, to me this indicates that the dosage is too high for me, so today

>under the advice of my Naturopath I lower the dose to 1/2.

>

>Still at the 1/2 dose I have a headache. Now I am thinking my body is

>telling me it doesn't like DHEA. Any input would be appreciated.

>

>Have a great day.

>

>Sheri

[Guest guest]

Kim I don't know how old you are (and I think you mentioned it

before) but for my daughter age 20 ---25mg of dhea is more than

enough, you have to watch getting too much hormone produced from this-

--older people who are past menopause can take much more as our

bodies really slow down on the production of dhea---everything has to

be based on age, weight to begin with and then you have to have your

tests results to see how much of all the hormones your body has---for

example a woman with breast cancer--estrogen positive would never

take dhea--or soy --so if you have enough of the estrogen's in your

body you would not add dhea to it. You have to be extremely careful

here with the female hormones or too much estrogen is cancer causing

and I have 4 girlfriends with cancer--three are based on excess

estrogen.

Let me say I am very scared of overdosing on anything that produces

more female hormones than my body and digest!! tina

[Guest guest]

DHEA

Hi I have just had a test for DHEA levels and its came back as very low. I have

been asked to take 5mg of this drug and then if I can tolerate this increase to

10mg per day.

What is DHEA and what did this test prove other than I am low in this.

many thanks

c UK

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[Guest guest]

Since yesterday, when they moved all the groups to Health.groups,

this has been happening. Lately I just write all my messages on

Notepad and then copy and paste them, not to lose them. I imagine

those who don't use the site don't feel a difference. I have always

been " no mail " cause I already get so much work email that I have to

backup daily, I'd hate to add more to my backup chores...

Jan (who answers fan mail for a living)

> for some reason I am having a difficult time posting--dhea has been

> called the mother of all hormones--it also works with the adrenal

> glands and as we all age --we produce less dhea naturally---so it's

> not uncommon to have lower numbers. Anyway I have sent in info on

> this in past posts as well---do a search on dhea and you will find

it

> can do a lot to improve your health--if you take too much your skin

> will get oily and you will grow hair, so that is one indication of

> taking too much--fyi the average dose is 20-25mg---5mg is really a

> very low dose--but I do believe in starting out meds in a low dose

> and work your way up--always better for your system. tina

[Guest guest]

Tina,

What are our thoughts of pregnenolone??..I am really interested in this

precursor steroid.With all of the talk about DHEA,would it not be better

to take pregnenolone as it is the precursor to

DHEA,testostorone,estrogen,and pregestorone??..I have read some

interesting things about it and would like to know if anyone has taken

it??

Deneen:)

[Guest guest]

we take this one in our adrenal energy vitamin!! from immune.com

-- In hypothyroidism , jezebel56@w... wrote:

> Tina,

> What are our thoughts of pregnenolone??..I am really interested in

this

> precursor steroid.With all of the talk about DHEA,would it not be

better

> to take pregnenolone as it is the precursor to

> DHEA,testostorone,estrogen,and pregestorone??..I have read some

> interesting things about it and would like to know if anyone has

taken

> it??

> Deneen:)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For whom??

Gracia

>

> Jan (who answers fan mail for a living)

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>

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[Guest guest]

A pop/jazz singer named Gal Costa. If any of you are in NYC and like

the bossa nova, she will be performing in Carnegie Hall with Ryuchi

Sakamoto on October 28th.

Jan

>

> For whom??

> Gracia

> >

> > Jan (who answers fan mail for a living)

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

I was using DHEA, but switched to 7-Keto. I felt less brain foggy,

and it solved my vaginal dryness problem, but in the end of the 50

days my skin got a little oilier, so I swtiched.

Jan

> I am curious how many people use DHEA? and What effects are you

> getting?

[Guest guest]

DHEA is good if you face a lot of stress, suspect you have adrenal

fatigue (look up the symptoms - 40% of hypothyroid people have

adrenal issues), or simply if you are over 25 (some say 30) to

maintain levels you had when younger.

However, women do best on 7-Keto DHEA, since it cannot be converted

into sex hormones (estrogen and testosterone). I take 50mg 7-Keto

daily and I feel I am able to deal with stress better - both

physical, like exercise recovery, and emotional. My tests showed I

was low on DHEA too.

Jan

> Can someone tell me if it is OK to take DHEA supplements. I

> remember reading something about that here (long ago) but I can't

> remember if it was good or bad.

>

> email me pls

[Guest guest]

Hi I have been prescribed 7 Keto DHEA @50mg perday. I can

tolerate this ok but really nothing has happend as yet. I was

informed that DHEA can be dangerious as it make testostorone

and estrogen cancer forming side effects.

john C Uk

---- Original message ----

>Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 17:44:27 -0000

>From: " no1annie " <no1annie@...>

>Subject: DHEA

>hypothyroidism

>

> Can someone tell me if it is OK to take DHEA

> supplements. I

> remember reading something about that here (long

> ago) but I can't

> remember if it was good or bad.

>

> email me pls

>

>

[Guest guest]

I take 50mg 7-keto DHEA. The dosages of 7-keto and regular DHEA are

different.

Gracia

> -

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> the average dose is 25mg----50 seems high--maybe they are giving you

> too much???

>

>

>

>

> -- In hypothyroidism , john codling <johncodling@o...>

> wrote:

> > Hi I have been prescribed 7 Keto DHEA @50mg perday. I can

> > tolerate this ok but really nothing has happend as yet. I was

> > informed that DHEA can be dangerious as it make testostorone

> > and estrogen cancer forming side effects.

> >

> > john C Uk

> >

> >

> > ---- Original message ----

> > >Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 17:44:27 -0000

> > >From: " no1annie " <no1annie@y...>

> > >Subject: DHEA

> > >hypothyroidism

> > >

> > > Can someone tell me if it is OK to take DHEA

> > > supplements. I

> > > remember reading something about that here (long

> > > ago) but I can't

> > > remember if it was good or bad.

> > >

> > > email me pls

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

7-Keto will NOT convert into sex hormones. That is why it is better

than regular DHEA.

The cancer risk is from having too much estrogen or testosterone, not

from taking DHEA.

It takes around 2-3 weeks for you to feel something. It is one of

those medications that take a while.

Jan

> Hi I have been prescribed 7 Keto DHEA @50mg perday. I can

> tolerate this ok but really nothing has happend as yet. I was

> informed that DHEA can be dangerious as it make testostorone

> and estrogen cancer forming side effects.

>

> john C Uk

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I take the 7-Keto cause my testosterone is through the roof, so I'd

hate to see some of it convert into testosterone.

Jan

> Jan needs dhea she is low in it as well as my daugher she is also

low

> and needs the sex hormones since they were all very low --so for

them

> it works. All depends what your needs are. No one has the exact

same

> problem under the title hypo! If 7 keto dhea does not work for you

I

> would take pregnenolone instead.

>

>

> http://www.youngagain2000.com/pregnenolone.html

>

>

[Guest guest]

50 is the average dosage for 7-Keto, you need more of that one than

regular. When I was on 25mcg regular DHEA, my DHEA was in the upper

third of normal. On 50mcg 7-Keto, my DHEA is in the bottom half of

normal. So 50mcg 7-Keto is still less than 25mcg DHEA.

Jan

> -

>

> the average dose is 25mg----50 seems high--maybe they are giving

you

> too much???

>

>

[Guest guest]

DHEA is short for Dehydroepiandrosterone. It is the most abundant

hormone produced by the adrenal glands. In the body, it is converted

to testosterone and estrogen. Production peaks in your early 20's,

and declines about 10% every 10 years. This means that those in their

80's produce only 10 - 20% as much as they did in their 20's.

DHEA is the only hormone that declines with age in both men and

women. It's decline signals age-related disease. DHEA is said to be

effective at improving and preventing many age related diseases, thus

being seen as an anti-aging treatment.

Research indicates DHEA therapeutic effects in many chronic

conditions including cardiovascular disease, diabetes,

hypercholesterolemia, obesity, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's

disease, Alzheimer's disease, disorders of the immune system,

depression, and osteoporosis. For each of the medical conditions

listed above, there are many studies invariably demonstrating them to

be associated with low blood levels of DHEA.

DHEA works in three important ways: it maintains normal sex hormone

levels, inhibits the damaging effects of stress, and increases the

production of antioxidant enzymes in the liver. Low levels of DHEA

can lead to chronic fatigue, weakness, depression, headaches, and

leave one susceptible to infections and disease. It's effect on the

immune system has led researchers to believe that DHEA may play an

important role in fighting AIDS.

Advocates claim that DHEA supplements can improve mood, increase

energy and libido, counteract the effects of stress, preserve muscle,

strengthen the immune system, and prevent cancer and heart disease.

The most immediate and lasting effects of supplementation is an

elevated mood and sense of physical well-being.

Another benefit of DHEA is its ability to help the body burn calories

for energy rather than store them as fat. DHEA blocks an enzyme named

G6PD (glucose-6-phosphate-dehydrogenase) that is not only essential

for fat tissue production but also promotes cancer cell growth.

DHEA has anti-aging properties, because it counteracts the stress

hormone, Cortisol, that cannibalizes our body and causes destruction

of tissues causing rapid aging. Barrett-Conor, MD, charted

DHEA sulfate levels in 242 men, ages 50-79, for twelve years. She

observed that 100mcg/dl increase in the DHEA sulfate level was

associated with a 36% reduction in death from cardiovascular disease.

French researcher, Dr. Emile-Etienne Baulieu, who isolated DHEA in

the 60's, summed up the benefits of the hormone by stating, " DHEA

won't make people live longer, but it will improve the quality of

life over a longer period of time and will postpone some of the

unpleasant effects of aging, such as fatigue and muscle. "

Although it cannot be said with absolute certainty, that raising your

DHEA levels with supplements will prevent oncoming disease, research

may suggests this. The best way to know how much to take is to have

your DHEA levels checked by a physician. If you are under 40 you may

not need additional DHEA. There are some contraindications for taking

supplements; being pregnant, nursing, or having prior ovarian,

adrenal or thyroid tumors. Side effects include acne, irritability,

fatigue and hirsutism in women. Side effects only occur with doses

over 50mg per day. Normal dosages appear quite safe.

DHEA - IN STOCK

> What is dhea? Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/24/05 8:03:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

denisee@... writes:

Up to this point I have thought that DHEA was something that was quite

useful for women

Hi ,

I spoke to my endo about that. He's a great endo and is going to prescribe

compounded timed release T3 for me. He told me women have to be careful about

DHEA. The problem is it's mainly a precursor to Testosterone and that women

can lose hair where they don't want to and grow it where they don't want to. I

have a shedding problem ever since I went on T4. It got worse when I went on

Armour. For me Armour worked against me as an antigen. My body since I have

Hashimoto's took it as a foreign invader and my thyroid antibodies went

through the roof. It works well with a lot of people but you have to be careful

if

you have autoimmune thyroid problems. It made the shedding worse. I am

currently on Thyrolar but I don't think it was a high enough dose although my

antibodies went down from over 90 to 43. We're waiting for the rest of the lab

results before he prescribes the compounded timed release T3.

Helena

[Guest guest]

I have been reading in Dr. Vliet's book that a woman must have some

functioning ovarian tissue remaining in order to do anything with the DHEA,

and once the last follicle burns out at menopause, there isn't enough

ovarian function left to utilize the DHEA.

This is the first time I've read such a thing...I'm also reading elsewhere

that some are calling DHEA downright dangerous.

Up to this point I have thought that DHEA was something that was quite

useful for women... now, of course, I'm questioning that and looking to read

more about it from a variety of sources.

Do you have any thoughts as to Dr. Vliet's statement that menopausal ovaries

can't convert the DHEA?

Re: adrenal support

>

> This is great to hear that cortef is working for you! It has been a

> miracle for me, especially with energy and mood. I think you will feel

> wonderful on 20mg/day. Hertoghe MD advises taking DHEA with it.

> Gracia

>

>> Hello group..I know I havent made much of a contribution here

>> in awhile...I hope everyone is doing well. I just wanted to share

>> with everyone, that I finally ordered my Cortef. I had been wanting

>> to try it for quite sometime...I really believe that I havent had

>> complete

>> relief with my thyroid medication, because I also have some adrenal

>> issues..anyway, I started taking the hydrocortone three days ago.

>> I can't believe how much better I feel already..It has been really quite

>> an amazing improvement...I havent wanted to take a nap, and I have

>> made it thru my entire work day with no problems, and I have slept

>> really good too!

>> I'm just taking 5mgs twice a day for now. But what a difference!

>>

>> Hopefully it isn't too good to last.

>> Thank you Gracia for all of your advice.

>> .

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I wanted to add that I wonder if there isn't some other metabolic pathway in

which DHEA is utilized, as obviously it isn't going to be ovaries in men...

which begs the question if it is testicular tissue in men that does the

job.... or perhaps another gland or glands, like the adrenals and/or liver?

Re: adrenal support

>

>

>>

>> This is great to hear that cortef is working for you! It has been a

>> miracle for me, especially with energy and mood. I think you will feel

>> wonderful on 20mg/day. Hertoghe MD advises taking DHEA with it.

>> Gracia

>>

>>> Hello group..I know I havent made much of a contribution here

>>> in awhile...I hope everyone is doing well. I just wanted to share

>>> with everyone, that I finally ordered my Cortef. I had been wanting

>>> to try it for quite sometime...I really believe that I havent had

>>> complete

>>> relief with my thyroid medication, because I also have some adrenal

>>> issues..anyway, I started taking the hydrocortone three days ago.

>>> I can't believe how much better I feel already..It has been really quite

>>> an amazing improvement...I havent wanted to take a nap, and I have

>>> made it thru my entire work day with no problems, and I have slept

>>> really good too!

>>> I'm just taking 5mgs twice a day for now. But what a difference!

>>>

>>> Hopefully it isn't too good to last.

>>> Thank you Gracia for all of your advice.

>>> .

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Try these links

http://www.dhea-info.com/dhea-faq.htm

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/dhea.html

http://www.info-dhea.com/dhea_uk.htm

Puneet

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

What is DHEA? I've looked on the web and can't get a clear view of

exactly what it is.. It really doesn'ts say. Where can I find exactly

what it is.. What I've read, it is vitamins.

help

Bev

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