Chest Pain

[Guest guest]

I went to the hospital with complaints of atypical chest discomfort and

pain in my left jaw. The chest pains were squeezing. Cardiac troponin

showed 0.56. The EKG showed a non-ST-elevated myocardial infarction.

I do not cough or choke at night. My breathing is normal while sleeping.

Tests show that my gall bladder is fine.

Thanks for your questions and comments. I look forward to reading what

else you have to say.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks for your thoughtful ideas. I don't have a racing heart. However,

like you my syptoms only happen after I lie down for sleep or sit down

to rest. My blood pressure is generally low. My cardiologist will see me

on Thursday afternoon. I'll talk wth him about your ideas.

Warm regards,

in San Diego

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reminder to look in the files and for your ideas. I'll

ask the cardiologist on Thursday about my symptoms and esophageal

spasms.

[Guest guest]

Love wrote:

> I went to the hospital with complaints of atypical chest discomfort and

> pain in my left jaw. The chest pains were squeezing. Cardiac troponin

> showed 0.56. The EKG showed a non-ST-elevated myocardial infarction.

>

The troponin is very heart muscle specific. It is believed to indicate

something has happened to the cells of the heart muscle so that some are

either damaged or destroyed. Non-ST-elevated often means that blood flow

was restricted to part of the heart but not blocked. I don't see how

that would be related to the achalasia. However, anything that would

damage the heart muscle cells, like an infection, not just an attack,

could cause the troponin level but I don't see achalasia doing that.

> I do not cough or choke at night. My breathing is normal while sleeping.

>

I was looking for signs that food was staying in your esophagus while

you sleep. If it did, it could ferment and produce bacteria and create

acid in your esophagus either of which could cause irritation to the

esophagus that would be felt as pain in the chest. And, if one wanted to

go way out on a limb to make a case for connecting the esophagus problem

with the heart problem, one could speculate about bacteria from the

esophagus getting into the blood stream through an ulcer in the

esophagus and going to the heart and causing an infection there,

something like gum disease or dental work can cause heart problems. But,

your lack of other symptoms does not seem to support that.

If the pain at night is caused by acid a simple antacid like Tums should

stop the pain.

notan

[Guest guest]

Hi , Im not an expert but think that - 75mcg is still a pretty low dose and will need increasing and that you might have an adrenal problem - a lot of people do better if they treat the adrenals (start off with the nutri adrenal extra).

Having said all that - even if we were optimally treated with thyroid and adrenal meds this situation would be enough for anyone to feel stressed! Even though you know they have made a mistake its still stressful to know that you have to sort it out, and when you arent feeling 100% this feels like a major issue!

Ive always reacted badly to stress and this sort of thing would have been enough to make me ill. However, I did try NAE and didnt think it made any difference, but I have noticed recently that I dont react so badly - e.g. Ive been a poor passenger and back seat driver for years (!) but had a long trip with someone else driving recently and felt fine. I put this down to my thyroid getting sorted out.

Try to find ways to relax until you can sort this out - and look forward to getting better and stopping reacting like this - but do think about the NAE if you havent already.

Gill

This morning I was shocked to receive a letter from the Council threatening me with eviction for non-payment of rent. I have had chest pains, palpitations, feeling nauseous and faint ever since. It was all provoked by that blooming letter! Even though I know that the council is wrong as I DID pay the rent and I CAN provide records to prove it, I am surprised by the strength of how ill I suddenly feel.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Gill.

You have summed it up exactly!

I was interested in your comment about your changed rection to

stress now your thyroid is sorted out. I had been experiencing a

similar positive change and was really appreciating it. I suppose

that is why my stress reaction today seemed to turn everything on

its head.

For the last few years I'd became quite jumpy if someone suddenly

popped up behind me. I'd put this down to my hearing impairment

(since 2002) and having lost the ability to hear if someone was

approaching me from behind. However, I found it quite embarrassing

to almost jump out of my skin every blooming time. My kids thought

it was hysterical and would creep up behind me deliberately as a

laugh. Well, that " boo! Arggghh! " reaction simply doesn't happen any

more much to their disappointment and my delight ;o)

In fact I am very surprised by how much of my stress response HAS

damped down since being on thyroxine. It does seem to be very much a

physical thing rather than something controllable by mind power or

thinking calm thoughts!

Tracey

> Having said all that - even if we were optimally treated with

thyroid and adrenal meds this situation would be enough for anyone

to feel stressed! Even though you know they have made a mistake its

still stressful to know that you have to sort it out, and when you

arent feeling 100% this feels like a major issue!

>

> Ive always reacted badly to stress and this sort of thing would

have been enough to make me ill. However, I did try NAE and didnt

think it made any difference, but I have noticed recently that I

dont react so badly - e.g. Ive been a poor passenger and back seat

driver for years (!) but had a long trip with someone else driving

recently and felt fine. I put this down to my thyroid getting

sorted out.

[Guest guest]

Hi

Interesting - I was the same, really jumpy and would, as you say, jump out of my skin! This has settled since Ive been on thyroid meds. Im sure yours is doing and will get even better when you are on the right dose. But we will still react to stresses - we need to dont we - its the fight or flight response and we wont lose it completely and dont want to either!

Sounds to me as though you are on the right road so dont let this blip upset you.

Gill

I was interested in your comment about your changed rection to stress now your thyroid is sorted out. I had been experiencing a similar positive change and was really appreciating it. I suppose that is why my stress reaction today seemed to turn everything on its head.

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[Guest guest]

Hi tracey,

This dreadful stress could be made worse by adrenal insufficiency

making it harder to cope at the moment. Have you done the adrenal

questionnaire ?

Subject: Chest pain

I have not had any palpitations for approximately 3 months, the

period of my thyroxine trial. In the last few weeks I have been

taking 75mcg each evening and have still been feeling OK. I still

have a lot of my longstanding hypoT problems but expect that after

10 years of non-treatment they won't exactly vanish in weeks.

Although I have done everything right and my MP and CAB are aware of

the case, I am dreading being dragged into court as I know I just

cannot handle any more stress. From past experience I know this has

the potential of making me ill for a very long time.

I'm assuming that it is the stress making me feel like this but

could it also be not enough or too much thyroxine? I am not mentally

worried as I know I am in the right but why is my body telling me

different?

Tracey

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[Guest guest]

Just spotted your comment about this one . I always score very

highly on the adrenal questionnaire but haven done it recently

knowing that my score would still be pretty bad.

Apart from the Council, the weekend was the anniversary of my

sister's death and also coincided with the funeral of a lovely

friend from my dance class who died following a year of illness.

Ironically the funeral was rather therapeutic as it felt calming to

be amongst so many other good friends and remembering good times

together.

A few weeks ago I had a session with the Guys Hospital psychiatrist

as part of the carbon monoxide poisoning assessment. He picked up on

the huge amount of terrible things which have happened in my life,

one after another, without pause for a break and explained that it

wasn't surprising that I was manifesting physical symptoms. I hadn't

really acknowledged the extent of it before then as I had managed to

remain pretty mentally stable and thersfore had talked myself into

believing I was coping quite well.

Certainly I had been feeling a lot less physically stressed than

before I started the thyroxine.

Tracey

>

> Hi tracey,

> This dreadful stress could be made worse by adrenal

insufficiency

> making it harder to cope at the moment. Have you done the adrenal

> questionnaire ?

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I wonder if somebody have such problems or experience palpitation

>with chest pain?

>

I have both, but they do not seem not connected. I get palpitations

one day and then on another day I get some chest pain/pressure and it

feels hard to breathe, but that might be panic anxiety for me or

retracing of all my previous panic attacks.

[Guest guest]

Hi , Yeah, I wasn't getting enough potassium, vitamin 'D' or calcium. That

gave me palpitations and intense pain. I thought I was having a heart attack! I

also had dizzy spells, headache and nausia.

I went to fitday.com and put in my foods and suppliments for the few days before

it happened and I was low in potassium, calcium and vitamin 'D'.

You'd think an old timer like me would know better. I was only eating like that

for a coupla weeks but it was enough to really scare me. I just got caught up

with trying to fix up the house and forgot. lol

Nan

>Posted by: " imsinfo " imsinfo@... imsinfo

I have chest pain from time to time usually after palpitation and when

I am heated at night under warm cover.I thought it is perimenopause

symptoms.But somethimes I have palpitation and chest pain after

stressful event.

I had check with docs and they said my heart is not bad though some

tachicardia and murmurs present. One of them said there is small

change of mitral valve but it is not a big deal.

Later I have seen another doc who said I have very strong noise there

and need more exams. She said yeast infection can cause even prolapse

of mitral valve.

I wonder if somebody have such problems or experience palpitation with

chest pain?

[Guest guest]

If a yeast infection can cause a prolapse of mitral valve, does that

mean that the yeast is now in the blood (systemic) rather than

remaining solely in the digestive tract? Which type of antifungals

would be best to treat yeast problems in the heart? I'm assuming

Nystatin would not even affect that area.

(I have been having weird pains in my heart area that radiate up the

front of my neck, and one doctor detected a heart murmur last month,

but none of my symptoms concerned her. She doesn't beleive in yeast

overgrowth.)

>

> >Posted by: " imsinfo " imsinfo@... imsinfo

>

> I have chest pain from time to time usually after palpitation and

when

> I am heated at night under warm cover.I thought it is

perimenopause

> symptoms.But somethimes I have palpitation and chest pain after

> stressful event.

> I had check with docs and they said my heart is not bad though

some

> tachicardia and murmurs present. One of them said there is small

> change of mitral valve but it is not a big deal.

> Later I have seen another doc who said I have very strong noise

there

> and need more exams. She said yeast infection can cause even

prolapse

> of mitral valve.

> I wonder if somebody have such problems or experience palpitation

with

> chest pain?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just had an episode of this last night. I was in my bed under a warm cover

when I started having chest palpitations. It kind of felt like heart burn/sharp

pain. I only had it for about 3 minutes then it went away. This happens to me

every now and then. I'm convinced it's because of candida.

 

From: imsinfo <imsinfo@...>

Subject: Chest pain

candidiasis

Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 11:06 AM

I have chest pain from time to time usually after palpitation and when

I am heated at night under warm cover.I thought it is perimenopause

symptoms.But somethimes I have palpitation and chest pain after

stressful event.

I had check with docs and they said my heart is not bad though some

tachicardia and murmurs present. One of them said there is small

change of mitral valve but it is not a big deal.

Later I have seen another doc who said I have very strong noise there

and need more exams. She said yeast infection can cause even prolapse

of mitral valve.

I wonder if somebody have such problems or experience palpitation with

chest pain?

[Guest guest]

>

> If a yeast infection can cause a prolapse of mitral valve, does

that

> mean that the yeast is now in the blood (systemic) rather than

> remaining solely in the digestive tract? Which type of antifungals

> would be best to treat yeast problems in the heart? I'm assuming

> Nystatin would not even affect that area.

+++. Please do not be alarmed by other member's posts like this

one. In order for anyone to get mitral valve prolapse from candida

they would already be in intensive care, since only systemic candida

could cause it. Systemic candida is rare, and can happens in people

who already have cancer and are dying, or have recently had extensive

surgery, etc.

>

> (I have been having weird pains in my heart area that radiate up

the front of my neck, and one doctor detected a heart murmur last

month, but none of my symptoms concerned her. She doesn't beleive in

yeast overgrowth.)

+++There are " healthy " heart murmurs, which I have too, so don't be

concerned. That kind of pain is usually caused by digestive problems.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thanks for putting my mind at ease, Bee! :-)

> > If a yeast infection can cause a prolapse of mitral valve, does

> that

> > mean that the yeast is now in the blood (systemic) rather than

> > remaining solely in the digestive tract? Which type of

antifungals

> > would be best to treat yeast problems in the heart? I'm

assuming

> > Nystatin would not even affect that area.

>

> +++. Please do not be alarmed by other member's posts like

this

> one. In order for anyone to get mitral valve prolapse from

candida

> they would already be in intensive care, since only systemic

candida

> could cause it. Systemic candida is rare, and can happens in

people

> who already have cancer and are dying, or have recently had

extensive

> surgery, etc.

> >

> > (I have been having weird pains in my heart area that radiate up

> the front of my neck, and one doctor detected a heart murmur last

> month, but none of my symptoms concerned her. She doesn't beleive

in

> yeast overgrowth.)

>

> +++There are " healthy " heart murmurs, which I have too, so don't

be

> concerned. That kind of pain is usually caused by digestive

problems.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I just started the diet about a week ago.

>

> I know I have Hashimoto's that is uncontrolled because I cannot take

> my Armour Thyroid because my adrenal function is so low. I have many

> other problems and have been bed-ridden for almost 7 years. I

cannot seem to get my adrenals " up " .

+++Hi Heidi. Welcome to our group. This program will normalize

thyroid and adrenal function, which is caused by candida. That is

because candida toxins (and other toxins as well) cause all of the

body's cell membranes to become rigid/stiff. This means many organs

throughout the body aren't able to function well, and also any

hormones produced aren't as able to get into rigid cell membranes

where they are needed to do their job. Also see this excellent

article on Adrenal & Thyroid Malfunction:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu4_7_1.php

> I have an almost constant chest pain on the left (and sometimes

right) side of my chest. It seems a little bit worse at night and

sometimes hurts bad enough to wake me up, usually from 3:00-5:00 AM.

I was in the emergency room lately with chest pain. They felt it was

probably due to my thyroid, but couldn't prove it without more tests

(I won't get the tests because I can't afford them as I don't have

insurance. Regular doctors have done almost NOTHING for me anyway

despite their good intentions). I'm a little scared. Will the chest

pain go away?

+++Many people with candida have chest pains, but have found a

definite cause cannot be confirmed by doctors and tests. Since they

aren't concerned about your liver, heart or vascular system, and you

do not have constant increasing pain I wouldn't be worried about it.

They certainly aren't concerned that you have an emergency situation.

There are many things that can cause such chest pains, and since they

happen mostly at night I suspect it could be caused by detoxification

and/or digestive issues.

Most people who have experienced such symptoms have found they

eventually stopped as they progressed on this program. So I

recommend you continue changing over to this diet, and ensure you

take all of the supplements - see " Curing Candida, How to Get

Started " so you don't change over too fast, which will create more

symptoms: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I just started the diet about a week ago.

> >

> > I know I have Hashimoto's that is uncontrolled because I cannot take

> > my Armour Thyroid because my adrenal function is so low. I have many

> > other problems and have been bed-ridden for almost 7 years. I

> cannot seem to get my adrenals " up " .

>

> +++Hi Heidi. Welcome to our group. This program will normalize

> thyroid and adrenal function, which is caused by candida. That is

> because candida toxins (and other toxins as well) cause all of the

> body's cell membranes to become rigid/stiff. This means many organs

> throughout the body aren't able to function well, and also any

> hormones produced aren't as able to get into rigid cell membranes

> where they are needed to do their job. Also see this excellent

> article on Adrenal & Thyroid Malfunction:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu4_7_1.php

>

> > I have an almost constant chest pain on the left (and sometimes

> right) side of my chest. It seems a little bit worse at night and

> sometimes hurts bad enough to wake me up, usually from 3:00-5:00 AM.

> I was in the emergency room lately with chest pain. They felt it was

> probably due to my thyroid, but couldn't prove it without more tests

> (I won't get the tests because I can't afford them as I don't have

> insurance. Regular doctors have done almost NOTHING for me anyway

> despite their good intentions). I'm a little scared. Will the chest

> pain go away?

>

> +++Many people with candida have chest pains, but have found a

> definite cause cannot be confirmed by doctors and tests. Since they

> aren't concerned about your liver, heart or vascular system, and you

> do not have constant increasing pain I wouldn't be worried about it.

> They certainly aren't concerned that you have an emergency situation.

>

> There are many things that can cause such chest pains, and since they

> happen mostly at night I suspect it could be caused by detoxification

> and/or digestive issues.

>

> Most people who have experienced such symptoms have found they

> eventually stopped as they progressed on this program. So I

> recommend you continue changing over to this diet, and ensure you

> take all of the supplements - see " Curing Candida, How to Get

> Started " so you don't change over too fast, which will create more

> symptoms: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

Bee:

Thank you so much for your excellent advice! I will read the articles

you suggested. (By the way, even after a week on your program I don't

have any more pain in my intestines, so I know I am beginning to heal

for the very first time).

Thanks Again,

Heidi

[Guest guest]

> Bee:

>

> Thank you so much for your excellent advice! I will read the articles

> you suggested. (By the way, even after a week on your program I don't

> have any more pain in my intestines, so I know I am beginning to heal

> for the very first time).

+++That's wonderful Heidi! Congratulations!

May I please ask that you " trim your messages " properly; you were

emailed the instructions when you joined, and they are also posted on

the group every 2 weeks.

Bee

[Guest guest]

My daughter has a rapid heart rate when she has (tachycardia), but she is

only 2 years old, so I don't know if she actually has any sort of chest pain

that accompanies it.

[Guest guest]

my son has always had chest pain. I was told it is from the inflammation. but it

does happen with pfs.  

[Guest guest]

Hi.

My daughter has had a rapid pulse with episodes. Sometimes it feels like her

heart is going to burst out of her. She never mentioned chest pains

specifically but I know her heart racing wakes her up at night.

[Guest guest]

Hi.

My daughter has had a rapid pulse with episodes. Sometimes it feels like her

heart is going to burst out of her. She never mentioned chest pains

specifically but I know her heart racing wakes her up at night.

[Guest guest]

I was once very worried about my son's high heart rate when he fevered(I was new

to the fevers at that point) and was told that it is very normal for anyone-

child or adult- for their heart rate to increase with a high fever. The dr's

that treat my son are well respected pediatricians and have helped calm many of

my fears/questions! After 3 years of dealing with my son's fevers- I feel as

though I have gained so much knowledge and confidence in dealing with this

illness- but each time my son fevers- there is still that bit of anxiety!

Regards,

Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

[Guest guest]

I was once very worried about my son's high heart rate when he fevered(I was new

to the fevers at that point) and was told that it is very normal for anyone-

child or adult- for their heart rate to increase with a high fever. The dr's

that treat my son are well respected pediatricians and have helped calm many of

my fears/questions! After 3 years of dealing with my son's fevers- I feel as

though I have gained so much knowledge and confidence in dealing with this

illness- but each time my son fevers- there is still that bit of anxiety!

Regards,

Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry

[Guest guest]

Yes, tell the liver doc and he may have you see a specialist! Definitely let a

medical professional know.

Best Wishes,

Scarlet

>

> It happened again yesterday, I just looked up the definition of chest pain and

I guess that is definitely what I went through while I was at the food store

with my mother in law she was so scared after about the longest 10 minutes or so

of my life it passed. I didn't call the Dr. didn't go to the ER I guess stupid

me is this something I tell the liver specialist today though? Yes, right?

>