Thyroid

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> Long time. at least over 20 years.

>

+++Hi Jeanne. I assume you mean you've had thyroid problems for 20 years - if

you include the part of the previous message that relates to your answer it

help.

Since it takes 1 month of natural healing for every year, so you will want to be

off thyroid meds after being on this program 20 months.

You should start getting tested every month to 6 weeks after being on this

program 15 months so your doctor can lower your meds accordingly.

Bee

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> Thanks Bee;

>

> Can u believe he's an Osteopath, they are suppose to treat the whole body, but

I think He's just in it for the $$. He doesn't accept insurance, He doesn't even

know my whole story or that I haven't slept in a year.

>

> I'm donating as soon as I can to u for all the help; I should have paid u not

him, LOL, at least u act like u care. Last time I saw him I was too weak to even

sit up and he said, " see ya in 4 months! " I thought will I be alive in 4 months?

I can't even drive......There are no good doctors in this town.......dif no

homeopaths or naturapaths....My family doctor said it was " menopause. "   LOL

+++Hi Jean. Unfortunately many others have also discovered that Osteopath,

Naturopaths, Nutritionist and many other alternative health practitioners are

" in it " for the money. Also many go along with main-stream theories that are

false.

One of my friends goes to an Osteopath who is vegetarian. He had her on

bio-identical estrogen hormones for 4 years. Can you believe this was long

after menopause since she was in her late 60s? Menopause is not a disease, but

she had hot flashes, which are caused by many other malfunctions, not just due

to menopause. I warned her not to take them because they mess up the body too,

even if they aren't considered drugs.

So at 71 years old she started to bleed and went to her nurse practitioner (in

the US) to find out why. She had a thickened uterus, a polyp in her uterus and

a cyst on her ovary. She eats very well, according to the Weston A. Price

Foundation. She found out her Osteopath " forgot " to give her progesterone too.

It took her a few months off of it for her body to adjust itself, and testing

showed the uterus had normalized and she had no polyp or cyst. Duh? Now she

doesn't take any hormones and is doing well.

The best, Bee

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Bee;

I'm about 80-85% on the diet and supplements and already feeling better. I

felt " wired " on my thyroid medicine and iodine pills so I cut back and the

" wired " feeling went away. I've been on both since September.

Will my next thyroid test be accurate? I'm afraid of losing the " half "

thyroid I have left. The nodules on it are shrinking and my goiter is shrinking.

The doctors scared me into cutting half out, I have Hasimotos. I'm finally

sleeping again after a year. Is it possible to have a bad test but feel better?

Afraid of the test;

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

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> Bee;

>

> I'm about 80-85% on the diet and supplements and already feeling better.

I felt " wired " on my thyroid medicine and iodine pills so I cut back and the

" wired " feeling went away. I've been on both since September. Will my next

thyroid test be accurate?

++Hi Jeanne. If your next thyroid test is done 2 months after you changed the

dose it will be accurate for the lower dose, but you must advise your doctor

since he/she will think you are still on the dose recommended.

I'm afraid of losing the " half " thyroid I have left. The nodules on it are

shrinking and my goiter is shrinking. The doctors scared me into cutting half

out, I have Hasimotos. I'm finally sleeping again after a year. Is it possible

to have a bad test but feel better?

+++A bad test? You will have a bad test since you don't have a whole thyroid.

Bee

[Guest guest]

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> I've been on the diet for about 7 months (started Aug. 2009) and I have

hypothyroidism. I was diagnosed 8 1/2 years ago. On Sept. 9, 2009 I was tested

for TSH levels and they were .80. I was tested again on Feb. 18, 2010 and my

TSH levels were 1.57. What is the general experience with people and their

thyroid improving? I have not changed my medication level so I would have

guessed that my TSH would get smaller, hence more towards .40 (or

hyperthyroidism). At what level will I be able to get off meds? .40?

+++Hi Collete. TSH of 1.57 is in the normal range, and so is .80, according to

Dr. Rind:

http://www.drrind.com/therapies/thyroid-scale#intro2

+++What was the normal range given on your test results?

+++Also see Shomon's Thyroid site, where they say the US changed normal

ranges to .3 to 3.0, but some labs may not have changed to this new standard:

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/testsforthyroid/ht/interpretresult.htm

I realize that I may have had hypothyroidism longer than 8 1/2 years, but I

would have thought that my TSH values would improve slowly over time. Perhaps

this is part of the retracing? I was pregnant in the last 8 1/2 years which

would alter the TSH levels.

+++I think you should stop taking any thyroid meds. It is possible your thyroid

is trying to recover now, because of the time you've been on my program.

> Perhaps I'm doing something wrong on the diet- I'm not sure exactly how much

sea salt I get, but I put some on all my food and I usually have the electrolyte

drink. I currently have about 4 tbsp of CO.

> One complication- I live in California and can't get my thyroid tested

whenever I want- my doctor has to authorize it and she is unaware of my diet.

+++You could start measuring your sea salt so you know how much you are getting.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

How exciting Cheryl! I am so glad that your husband is feeling better. Stories like this are what keep me doing this. My thyca had become RAI resistant too. I had three of them (100 mCi's 150 mCi's and 250 mCi's). When they suggested external beam I ran knowing this would kill me. I was completely iodine deficient when I started. I was very toxic in bromide too. Mercury toxicity was part of the issue as well. It took a family practitioner that used alt med therapies to get me on the road to health. So sad that they pile on more and more toxins onto a person already toxic.

How much is your husband taking of iodine?

Thyroid

Hi Steph,I just took the survey. I'm not sure what good it will do. But it sure felt good to vent a little. I'm new to this website and have been thoroughly absorbed in all the wonderful links provided. Interestingly, I first found the thyca website and have been part of their forum for the last 2 years. Despite numerous surgeries and an RAI treatment, my husband's throid cancer has been becoming more and more aggressive. It now is nonavid for RAI. Also it does not produce thyrogobulin. We were at our wits ends. We've been dabbling in alternative complementary treatments for the last year or so. So far Tom is feeling much better despite his tumor. In fact, the hot spot in his lung is no longer visible. I was very excited when I stumbled onto this group/website. Looking back, I can see that it's very likely his condition was caused or minimally worsened by a lack of iodine. Thank you so much for all the work that you do here.Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Bee!

I started to check how much sea salt I was getting each day and it's usually

around 1 tsp. To make sure I get enough I will start setting aside 1 1/2

tsp sea salt each day.

On my lab results they said that normal TSH levels are .40 - 4.50.

Thanks for your help! Collette

[Guest guest]

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> Thanks, Bee!

> I started to check how much sea salt I was getting each day and it's usually

around 1 tsp. To make sure I get enough I will start setting aside 1 1/2 tsp

sea salt each day.

+++Hi Collette. That's good.

> On my lab results they said that normal TSH levels are .40 - 4.50.

+++Do you have a questions about your thyroid? I can't go by just the normal

ranges; what were your tests, questions, etc.?

I don't remember everyone's situation since I deal with at least 50 different

people every day.

All the best, Bee

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[Guest guest]

Bee;

What test do u trust for your thyroid levels and TPO levels of thyroid.

Thanks;

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee and everyone,

This old post is so inspiring!!! I have Hashimotos with a TSH of 102 before

meds. I stopped taking meds a year ago to allow my body to heal itself. I

can't wait for Bee's plan to be the reason my body rebalances and heals.

There's hope!!!!

Love,

>

> Bee,

>

> I know you say that treating candida will help normalize thyroid function, but

does that apply to Hashimoto's? I am thinking it does, because my labs have

improved a bit since I have changed my diet... still not on 100% but I too am in

moving mode and intend to get on board once I have completed my move in June.

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> Bee;

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> What test do u trust for your thyroid levels and TPO levels of thyroid.

>

+++Hi Jeanne,

What is TPO ?

I have to go along with the medical field no matter what. Otherwise I couldn't

get any thyroid meds, and would have to eat raw pig's thyroid, if I could get

it. lol!

Bee

[Guest guest]

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> Hi Bee!

>

> I still can't believe how much everything you are saying is aligning to what I

have discovered on my own. Thank you for saving me many more years of fine

tuning if I had to do it the rest of it on my own!

+++Hi Kim. That's wonderful my friend!

>

> I used to be on armour thyroid (1 grain) and when they switched the

formulation, I all of a sudden had high blood pressure which was never an issue

for me before, ever. I then went on naturethroid, but it was hard to find and

my levels were a little low. Then my doctor quit practicing so I went to a TCM

physician that I had seen before. He prescribed me a compound of 68/2

microliters of T4/T3. I've been on it since June, but it is very expensive and

then I think that it is pretty much the same as being on synthroid with

additional T3, which would be cheaper, except that I don't have insurance at the

moment and new patient doctor visits are even more expensive. Since I am only

taking one grain, could I go off for a few months and see what happens? Or do

you have to wait until your thyroid catches up so you can decrease the

medication? I've been on thyroid replacement for 10 years now.

>

> I've been on your diet for a month, maybe? But I had eliminated most

processed foods prior to this.

+++I think it is safer to go off thyroid meds than to wait until your thyroid

catches up, but many people are too scared, thinking they will be worse off. I

don't think they will be worse off.

+++There are very good reasons your thyroid decided to lower its hormone output,

and eventually it will normalize like everything else will. Also many symptoms

that are attributed to low thyroid functioning aren't only because of it.

Go for it and keep me posted.

Luv & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee and others

,

Several years ago I went off my thyroid meds. At that point I changed my diet.

I was eating a lot of raw broccoli and cabbage and other foods that are

goitrogenic raw.

I started to ferment veggies with the guidance of Sandor Katz's book " Wild

Fermentation. " I sent him an email asking if fermenting deactivates the

goitrogens and he said it actually increases it. This is the link he sent me:

http://wolfrivernaturals.com/chris-masterjohn-special-reports.htm

> >

> > What about onions? I love all of them! Don't like them cooked

>

> ==>Onions are fine!

>

> Bee

> P.S. Please trim your messages.

>

[Guest guest]

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> Hi Bee and others

> ,

> Several years ago I went off my thyroid meds. At that point I changed my

diet. I was eating a lot of raw broccoli and cabbage and other foods that are

goitrogenic raw.

>

> I started to ferment veggies with the guidance of Sandor Katz's book " Wild

Fermentation. " I sent him an email asking if fermenting deactivates the

goitrogens and he said it actually increases it. This is the link he sent me:

>

> http://wolfrivernaturals.com/chris-masterjohn-special-reports.htm

>

+++Hi ,

That isn't a link to any article about fermentation. I know Masterjohn,

who writes articles for the Weston A. Price Foundation, and he has his own

website.

However, I do not agree with isolating some substances in foods and claiming

they cause health issues.

People who have low thyroid these days is not because of lack of iodine anyway.

They are lacking good saturated fats and other oil soluble vitamins that are

necessary for minerals to be absorbed and utilized which Dr. Price called " the

mineral activators. "

It is also because their adrenals are over stressed so they aren't able to

handle normal thyroid hormone production. When the thyroid senses the adrenals

are over stressed it automatically down regulates its hormone output in order to

protect the adrenals.

Avoiding foods that contain goitergens doesn't help either one of these

important issues.

Bee

P.S. , why are you responding to a message dated April 7, 2006?

[Guest guest]

a,

I had my thyroid blown away years ago, so I've been following several groups devoted to thyroid issues.

In many cases thyroid problems can be handled by supplementing with iodine. Lugols or Iodarol(SP) internally, or even simply applying some on the skin can help. I think I'd try that before trying to electrify the thyroid, if you haven't already done so. Electrifying couldn't hurt, but if it's just a matter of the gland being undernourished, it wouldn't help.

The other issue is that the adrenal gland is sometimes the cause of the "low thyroid function" diagnosis, and I think iodine would help it as well.

You might visit the site http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com There's a wealth of knowledge there.

Bernie

Thyroid

Has anyone had low thyroid function gegin to improve after zapping their thyroid?

Is the 6 volt lantern battery probably safe for this?

Thanks , a

[Guest guest]

Or on the flip side in assisting a

hyperthyroid condition (Grave’s disease)? I’ve got a small nodule…dr.

wanted to zap it and I said no. Would LOVE to get my thyroid functioning

properly…would using a germkiller do it?

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of a s Anthis

Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010

10:34 AM

b G

Subject: Thyroid

Has anyone had low thyroid function gegin to improve

after zapping their thyroid?

Is the 6 volt lantern battery probably safe for

this?

Thanks , a

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the input about iodine. I have joined the Iodine Group and am

tryong to assimilate the wealth of information there. Maybe it was there that I

read for the first time that toxins accumulated within the thyroid gland can

lead to hypothyroidism. And the good news is --- that when properly detoxed,

the thyroid has the ability to recover. I guess that gave a me a hope that I

had not had previously. It was interesting that this info came as we are getting

involved in so many alternative healing avenues. I had been having small

windows of feeling had more thyroid on board in my body and was tring to

determine what was going on. It truly feels my thyroid is trying to wake up and

I waa just recognizing that that wa even a possibility. New info and new

mindset with amazing change in emotions accompanying!

I have already zapped the thyroid for short periond when I am zapping that still

healing root canal...so wonder if that could be a part of it. I am also using

activated MMS1 (only up to 10 drops, once daily), and H2O2 once daily with some

rather amazing detoxifications gong on there at those small doses. I know when

I am zapping my tooth, nose, sinus areas, jay joint, and under ear lymph glands

and over my carotids that I get some Herx reastions so There is definately

something foreign there that is reacting and slowly being cleared.

Just my present eperience.....said with a great thankfulness for this group's

sharing and support!

Blessing from a

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> Or on the flip side in assisting a hyperthyroid condition (Grave's disease)?

> I've got a small nodule.dr. wanted to zap it and I said no. Would LOVE to

> get my thyroid functioning properly.would using a germkiller do it?

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> s Anthis

> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:34 AM

> b G

> Subject: Thyroid

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> Has anyone had low thyroid function gegin to improve after zapping their

> thyroid?

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> Is the 6 volt lantern battery probably safe for this?

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[Guest guest]

, we " in the know " about thyroid problems, know that docs shouldn't

go by TSH numbers AT ALL.......for instance, most people with thyroid

problems have low TSH, while I had total collapse and had high TSH....I'm now

doing great.....

here's a great website for you to look around on as it is the " definitive "

book/website on thyroid.....there's a direct link on the site for why TSH

numbers don't mean anything.......You definitely do not want a doc who goes

by TSH numbers.....there is also a GREAT thyroid group on that you

can get to through the STTM link.......

_http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/_

(http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/)

Blessings, Margaret

[Guest guest]

I second this, I was gonna mention this website too. Unfortunately it's hard to

find a good doctor who can take all these things into account, they generally

just check the TSH and that's all.

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From: " margretdzn@... " <margretdzn@...>

candidiasis

Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 1:28:24 PM

Subject: Re:thyroid

, we " in the know " about thyroid problems, know that docs shouldn't

go by TSH numbers AT ALL.......for instance, most people with thyroid

problems have low TSH, while I had total collapse and had high TSH....I'm now

doing great.....

here's a great website for you to look around on as it is the " definitive "

book/website on thyroid.....there's a direct link on the site for why TSH

numbers don't mean anything.......You definitely do not want a doc who goes

by TSH numbers.....there is also a GREAT thyroid group on that you

can get to through the STTM link.......

_http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/_

(http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/)

Blessings, Margaret

[Guest guest]

,

This group has been recommended as a great place to get relevant

information on the kind of question you asked:

NaturalThyroidHormones

By the way, have you been tested for Adrenal Fatigue (Saliva test)?

It is my understanding that the Thyroid Numbers will not improve until the

Adrenals are supported. (if AF is present). These 2 glands seem to work very

closely together. I was tested and found to be in mild Adrenal Fatigue. I am

following both the Candida and Adrenal Fatigue protocols. Additionally, I take

Armour Thyroid Extract.

I do believe that Candida and AF are synergistic. One definitely affects the

other, and the toll on the body is intensified when both are present. Not sure

which came first in my case, but I am addressing both. Hope this helps.

Carolyn

>

> Guys,

> Im just wondering if anyone knows what an ideal tsh number is. In the midst

> of this candida diet and treatment, my doctor has been treating my thyroid

> which he thought was slightly underactive. It was 3.56 and now after 3

> months of armour it's 1.4. I think it's going too low- I dont want to be

> overactive. He wanted my to increase my dose too. I think it's not a good

idea.

> anyone know about this?

>

> thanks

> tiffany

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for your responses. I did have ALL the thyroid levels

checked.

In July, it was:

TSH: 3.56 (.27-4.2)

Free T4: 1.32 (.93-1.7)

Free T3: 3.7 (2.57-4.43)

Now, 3 months after taking Armour, it seems the T4 and T3 are going down

which I dont understand.

The numbers just recently were:

TSH: 1.46

Free T4: .95

Free T3: 2.8

Im not feeling well, but again, Im on support for candida (diflucan,

nystatin, diet) and adrenals (cortef and adrenal glandulars) so I have no idea

what's causing what. Im just trying to figure out what's going on with the

thyroid because im not sure why the numbers are going down and I dont want

to cause myself worse problems. If anyone has any experience let me know.

Thanks again for the help,

In a message dated 11/2/2010 5:25:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

carolynmil@... writes:

,

This group has been recommended as a great place to get relevant

information on the kind of question you asked:

NaturalThyroidHormones

By the way, have you been tested for Adrenal Fatigue (Saliva test)?

It is my understanding that the Thyroid Numbers will not improve until the

Adrenals are supported. (if AF is present). These 2 glands seem to work

very closely together. I was tested and found to be in mild Adrenal Fatigue.

I am following both the Candida and Adrenal Fatigue protocols.

Additionally, I take Armour Thyroid Extract.

I do believe that Candida and AF are synergistic. One definitely affects

the other, and the toll on the body is intensified when both are present.

Not sure which came first in my case, but I am addressing both. Hope this

helps.

Carolyn

>

> Guys,

> Im just wondering if anyone knows what an ideal tsh number is. In the

midst

> of this candida diet and treatment, my doctor has been treating my

thyroid

> which he thought was slightly underactive. It was 3.56 and now after 3

> months of armour it's 1.4. I think it's going too low- I dont want to be

> overactive. He wanted my to increase my dose too. I think it's not a

good idea.

> anyone know about this?

>

> thanks

> tiffany

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

[Guest guest]

, someone mentioned the thyroid group on ---very good

group.....what you do is join that, and post your thyroid numbers you

gave to us and ask for their recommendations...

NaturalThyroidHormones/

<NaturalThyroidHormones/>

it's an excellent group---I''ve been a member for couple of years, the

owner of the group (Val) has more knowledge than most endos......it's

the group that's mentioned on the STTM website......give them your

numbers and they'll give you advice on what they mean.....there is also

their sister group, the adrenal group which can give you advice on

adrenal support........if you go to the thyroid group website, all their

sister sites are on there....

Blessings, Margaret

>

> Thank you all for your responses. I did have ALL the thyroid levels

> checked.

>

>

> In July, it was:

> TSH: 3.56 (.27-4.2)

> Free T4: 1.32 (.93-1.7)

> Free T3: 3.7 (2.57-4.43)

>

> Now, 3 months after taking Armour, it seems the T4 and T3 are going

down

> which I dont understand.

> The numbers just recently were:

> TSH: 1.46

> Free T4: .95

> Free T3: 2.8

>

> Im not feeling well, but again, Im on support for candida (diflucan,

> nystatin, diet) and adrenals (cortef and adrenal glandulars) so I have

no idea

> what's causing what. Im just trying to figure out what's going on with

the

> thyroid because im not sure why the numbers are going down and I dont

want

> to cause myself worse problems. If anyone has any experience let me

know.

>

> Thanks again for the help,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Margaret, I joined. Let's see what they say.

In a message dated 11/3/2010 9:20:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

margretdzn@... writes:

, someone mentioned the thyroid group on ---very good

group.....what you do is join that, and post your thyroid numbers you

gave to us and ask for their recommendations...

_NaturalThyroidHormones/_

(NaturalThyroidHormones/)

<_NaturalThyroidHormones/_

(NaturalThyroidHormones/) >

it's an excellent group---I''ve been a member for couple of years, the

owner of the group (Val) has more knowledge than most endos......it's

the group that's mentioned on the STTM website......give them your

numbers and they'll give you advice on what they mean.....there is also

their sister group, the adrenal group which can give you advice on

adrenal support........if you go to the thyroid group website, all their

sister sites are on there....

Blessings, Margaret

>

> Thank you all for your responses. I did have ALL the thyroid levels

> checked.

>

>

> In July, it was:

> TSH: 3.56 (.27-4.2)

> Free T4: 1.32 (.93-1.7)

> Free T3: 3.7 (2.57-4.43)

>

> Now, 3 months after taking Armour, it seems the T4 and T3 are going

down

> which I dont understand.

> The numbers just recently were:

> TSH: 1.46

> Free T4: .95

> Free T3: 2.8

>

> Im not feeling well, but again, Im on support for candida (diflucan,

> nystatin, diet) and adrenals (cortef and adrenal glandulars) so I have

no idea

> what's causing what. Im just trying to figure out what's going on with

the

> thyroid because im not sure why the numbers are going down and I dont

want

> to cause myself worse problems. If anyone has any experience let me

know.

>

> Thanks again for the help,

>

>

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