Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Hi Cheryl, take a look at the list. The files section is an open section as well as the messages. There is a lot of information there. If you search Binstock in the messages, I think she just posted something in the last couple of weeks. It was damming to the government, because they knew about this long before the recommendations went out. /?yguid=37183817 PS: Can't help you with the Math, I'm just horrible at it!! > > My two year old (three next month) has had some unacceptable and difficult > behaviors that we've been working through. He had next to no language, was > always escaping (scaling a four foot chain link fence and starting up and > driving the car at 26 months!), running naked, pooping in corners, hitting > people with sticks to get them to chase him...things that made it so only I > (and sometimes his father) were able to interact peaceably with him. I > took him to our homeopath (classical, practicing 30 years) who prescribed > Hyoscamus six weeks ago, and now again 200C each week for one month. When > she looked in his eyes she was shocked because in all her years of practice > she had NEVER seen a child with such inflamed nerve rings and especially > such plugged lymphatic system who was NOT autistic and vaccinated. (She > knows I'd never vaccinate and has even referred some of her clients to me > for vaccine information.) She sent me home with the homeopathic and some > supplementation advice (A, C & LOTS of zinc) and urged my husband and I to > reflect on my pregnancy to see what could have accounted for his > state. (She figures the hyoscamus layer was due to my zinc deficiency in > pregnancy.) > > Upon reflecting I can only figure the water may have had some agricultural > run off BUT I also ate a couple cans of tuna each week for part of my > pregnancy. I was trying to keep my protein levels up per Tom Brewer's > diet. I searched the web for information on mercury in tuna and only found > a few references. One said 17 mcg per 6 oz can, another 58 mcg per 12 oz > can and another showed a range from non-detectable to 1.30 parts per > million with an average of 0.32 ppm. > > This is my math for converting ppm to mcg Hg in a 6 oz can: > > (6 oz/1can) (1 lb/16 oz) (1 kg/2.205 lb) (1000 g/1 kg) (1000 mg/1 g) (1000 > mcg/1 mg) = 170,000,000 mcg tuna per regular sized can > > Average Hg concentration = 0.32ppm: > (170,000,000 mcg/1 can) (0.32 Hg/1,000,000 tuna) = 54.4 mcg Hg/ can of tuna > > Highest Hg concentration tested = 1.30 ppm > (170,000,000 mcg/1 can) (1.30 Hg/1,000,000 tuna) = 221 mcg Hg/ can of tuna > > When I calculated the Hg based on PPM, my results (avg-54 mg, max- 221mcg) > were far higher than the amounts given per can (17 mcg & adjusted to 29 mcg.) > > My questions are: > Does anyone have *reliable* numbers on mercury in tuna? > Can anyone show me an error in my math? > Considering my pre-pregnancy weight was 155 lbs (70 kg), does this seem > like a probable cause of my son's current health issues? > > I thought the EPA said max *safe* exposure to Hg was 0.1 mcg Hg/ kg of body > weight. Did I get the rate right? If it is I figure my maximum *safe > exposure* is (70 kg body weight) (0.1 mcg Hg/ kg body weight) = 7 mcg Hg > per day. If this is correct (please tell me if I am in error) it seems NO > pregnant woman should eat ANY tuna. > > You can call me naive but it seems there should be a FAR greater outcry > about the tuna situation and WIC should be sued for supplying free tuna to > pregnant and nursing moms. Is there a big outcry and I'm just out of the loop? > > Any input, reflections, corrections would be greatly appreciated. As my > account is rather screwy, please reply to the group and also to me > personally (cheryl@n...) > > Thank you, > Cheryl Overley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Do you have silver (mercury) fillings in your mouth? There is no safe level of mercury even though epa gives some arbitrary number. Also Rh neg? Rhogam? Also other issues could have contributed - not just mercury. Did you have MMR or Rubella vax? Did he have antibiotics as an infant? What is family history? Sheri > >My two year old (three next month) has had some unacceptable and difficult >behaviors that we've been working through. He had next to no language, was >always escaping (scaling a four foot chain link fence and starting up and >driving the car at 26 months!), running naked, pooping in corners, hitting >people with sticks to get them to chase him...things that made it so only I >(and sometimes his father) were able to interact peaceably with him. I >took him to our homeopath (classical, practicing 30 years) who prescribed >Hyoscamus six weeks ago, and now again 200C each week for one month. When >she looked in his eyes she was shocked because in all her years of practice >she had NEVER seen a child with such inflamed nerve rings and especially >such plugged lymphatic system who was NOT autistic and vaccinated. (She >knows I'd never vaccinate and has even referred some of her clients to me >for vaccine information.) She sent me home with the homeopathic and some >supplementation advice (A, C & LOTS of zinc) and urged my husband and I to >reflect on my pregnancy to see what could have accounted for his >state. (She figures the hyoscamus layer was due to my zinc deficiency in >pregnancy.) > >Upon reflecting I can only figure the water may have had some agricultural >run off BUT I also ate a couple cans of tuna each week for part of my >pregnancy. I was trying to keep my protein levels up per Tom Brewer's >diet. I searched the web for information on mercury in tuna and only found >a few references. One said 17 mcg per 6 oz can, another 58 mcg per 12 oz >can and another showed a range from non-detectable to 1.30 parts per >million with an average of 0.32 ppm. > >This is my math for converting ppm to mcg Hg in a 6 oz can: > >(6 oz/1can) (1 lb/16 oz) (1 kg/2.205 lb) (1000 g/1 kg) (1000 mg/1 g) (1000 >mcg/1 mg) = 170,000,000 mcg tuna per regular sized can > >Average Hg concentration = 0.32ppm: >(170,000,000 mcg/1 can) (0.32 Hg/1,000,000 tuna) = 54.4 mcg Hg/ can of tuna > >Highest Hg concentration tested = 1.30 ppm >(170,000,000 mcg/1 can) (1.30 Hg/1,000,000 tuna) = 221 mcg Hg/ can of tuna > >When I calculated the Hg based on PPM, my results (avg-54 mg, max-221mcg) >were far higher than the amounts given per can (17 mcg & adjusted to 29 mcg.) > >My questions are: >Does anyone have *reliable* numbers on mercury in tuna? >Can anyone show me an error in my math? >Considering my pre-pregnancy weight was 155 lbs (70 kg), does this seem >like a probable cause of my son's current health issues? > >I thought the EPA said max *safe* exposure to Hg was 0.1 mcg Hg/ kg of body >weight. Did I get the rate right? If it is I figure my maximum *safe >exposure* is (70 kg body weight) (0.1 mcg Hg/ kg body weight) = 7 mcg Hg >per day. If this is correct (please tell me if I am in error) it seems NO >pregnant woman should eat ANY tuna. > >You can call me naive but it seems there should be a FAR greater outcry >about the tuna situation and WIC should be sued for supplying free tuna to >pregnant and nursing moms. Is there a big outcry and I'm just out of the loop? > >Any input, reflections, corrections would be greatly appreciated. As my > account is rather screwy, please reply to the group and also to me >personally (cheryl@...) > >Thank you, >Cheryl Overley > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 When I was talking to the CDC one day the doctor there told me the mercury content in tuna was 17 micrograms per can. He also said there is mercury in grain. He said the average woman 110 pds should not exceed 5 micrograms per day. Then he recomended a flu shot that has 25 micrograms. Insane. That's our tax dollars at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 At 06:38 PM 8/14/2002 +0100, Sheri Nakken wrote: >Do you have silver (mercury) fillings in your mouth? I had a mercury filling in a baby tooth for about three years before it fell out and was replaced by an adult tooth. I have a bridge that is white on the outside but shows up on x-rays. Would that have mercury inside? >There is no safe level of mercury even though epa gives some arbitrary number. >Also Rh neg? Rhogam? I'm rh+ and had no drugs during pregnancy. >Also other issues could have contributed - not just mercury. >Did you have MMR or Rubella vax? My last vaccine was MMR in March of 1990. Enoch was conceived January 4, 1999. I had two pregnancies in between with apparently unaffected children. >Did he have antibiotics as an infant? The only *drugs* he's ever had were frequent doses of homeopathic arnica 30x, aconite 30x for croup, aconite , spongia tosta & hepar sulph (all 30x) for croup, and hyoscamus 200c recently per our homeopath. Oops! I just remembered I treated his older sister's mouth and my areola with gentian violet for thrush. (It was before I learned about homeopathy) As he was nursing at the time he received a second hand exposure. >What is family history? Everyone on my husband's side says Enoch is just like he was as a child. He has no autistic traits now. I think they just meant his being impulsive, extremely active, not in tune with adult ways...basically what they call " being a handful " . I have a vaccine-free nephew who seems to be " on the spectrum " . Even with being on the high functioning end of things it's apparent to anyone paying attention that there is definitely something going on with the way he perceives, interprets, and processes things and people around him. Unfortunately his parents don't acknowledge it and get him help. :-( My sister is also rH+ . I think my husband's nephew is also on the high end of the spectrum. His mother was up to date on all her shots as she was military. He got all his shots twice as the military lost his records and insisted he repeat and complete each series before going overseas. He was 21 months at the time. Thank you for asking about the family history. I never thought about it until now. Of the six males in his generation, three have many characteristics of high functioning autism, two even vaccine-free! >Sheri Thank you so much for responding. I appreciate your learned input. :-) Have you heard of moms' taking the MMR and having it apparently skip a few pregnancies and then show its effect? ~Cheryl Overley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2002 Report Share Posted August 14, 2002 Have you ever heard of an " Indigo child " ? Check out this website: http://www.indigochild.com/ " They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it) They have a feeling of " deserving to be here, " and are surprised when others don't share that. Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents " who they are. " They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice). They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them. They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought. They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like " system busters " (nonconforming to any system). They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially. They will not respond to " guilt " discipline ( " Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did " ). They are not shy in letting you know what they need. www.ChestnutHillCurlies.com Re: mercury in tuna > At 06:38 PM 8/14/2002 +0100, Sheri Nakken wrote: > >Do you have silver (mercury) fillings in your mouth? > > I had a mercury filling in a baby tooth for about three years before it > fell out and was replaced by an adult tooth. I have a bridge that is white > on the outside but shows up on x-rays. Would that have mercury inside? > > >There is no safe level of mercury even though epa gives some arbitrary number. > >Also Rh neg? Rhogam? > > I'm rh+ and had no drugs during pregnancy. > > >Also other issues could have contributed - not just mercury. > >Did you have MMR or Rubella vax? > > My last vaccine was MMR in March of 1990. Enoch was conceived January 4, > 1999. I had two pregnancies in between with apparently unaffected children. > > >Did he have antibiotics as an infant? > > The only *drugs* he's ever had were frequent doses of homeopathic arnica > 30x, aconite 30x for croup, aconite , spongia tosta & hepar sulph (all 30x) > for croup, and hyoscamus 200c recently per our homeopath. > Oops! I just remembered I treated his older sister's mouth and my areola > with gentian violet for thrush. (It was before I learned about > homeopathy) As he was nursing at the time he received a second hand > exposure. > > >What is family history? > > Everyone on my husband's side says Enoch is just like he was as a > child. He has no autistic traits now. I think they just meant his being > impulsive, extremely active, not in tune with adult ways...basically what > they call " being a handful " . > > I have a vaccine-free nephew who seems to be " on the spectrum " . Even with > being on the high functioning end of things it's apparent to anyone paying > attention that there is definitely something going on with the way he > perceives, interprets, and processes things and people around > him. Unfortunately his parents don't acknowledge it and get him > help. :-( My sister is also rH+ . > > I think my husband's nephew is also on the high end of the spectrum. His > mother was up to date on all her shots as she was military. He got all his > shots twice as the military lost his records and insisted he repeat and > complete each series before going overseas. He was 21 months at the time. > > Thank you for asking about the family history. I never thought about it > until now. Of the six males in his generation, three have many > characteristics of high functioning autism, two even vaccine-free! > > >Sheri > > Thank you so much for responding. I appreciate your learned > input. :-) Have you heard of moms' taking the MMR and having it > apparently skip a few pregnancies and then show its effect? > > ~Cheryl Overley > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 so what did he say about the 25 micrograms in the shot? or has he not put 2 and 2 together? Kathy When I was talking to the CDC one day the doctor there told me the mercury content in tuna was 17 micrograms per can. He also said there is mercury in grain. He said the average woman 110 pds should not exceed 5 micrograms per day. Then he recomended a flu shot that has 25 micrograms. Insane. That's our tax dollars at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Toxicity-A Modern Review from a Dental Perspective How much is really Dangerous? By Dean Swift The Canadian Journal of Dental Technology July 1999 http://www.micrylium.com/toxart.htm The links between Personal Health Issues & the Environment may not seem obvious at first glance, but we must realize that we are incredibly linked through food and water chains. This article is written to improve our understanding of toxics that come in contact with Dental Staff and their patients. We have poisoned our Environment Everyday, we, in a personal and collective way, may have realized that there are many among us who have health situations of which our grandparents had never heard. Bottled water - Imagine- paying for water! Skin allergies, asthma, higher cancer rates. Fertility Clinics - who would have believed 20 years ago that this would be a booming industry? We all have known someone who has had some difficulties with pregnancy. Many of the problems that we are encountering today did not exist before the widespread use of DDT, PCB's and NPE's. How is Toxicity measured? Toxicology is the study of poisons. One of the first compounds regarded as a poison was arsenic. It was the chief agent of poisoning crimes from the middle ages right up to the 20th century. In 1849, a toxicology program was begun at the University of Ghent in Belgium as a small part of pharmacy and chemistry studies. Since WW2 with the explosion of synthetic materials such as pesticides and detergents, it has necessarily grown as a scientific endeavour and is now its own discipline. Instruments of Measure The oldest and most crude instrument of toxicity is the LD50 (Lethal Dose 50%). This is the amount of a substance that can be eaten or ingested before 1/2 of the animals in the group die. Although the concept has been around for a century, it is not a very realistic representation as few people will ingest a large quantity of a toxic substance, no matter how hungry they may be. Occupational Health inspectors use a toxicity indicator called TLV (Threshold Limit Value). By monitoring the air in certain industries, and linking the statistics of their workers' health compared with the general public, they can determine the risk limits of personal exposure by inhalation. A recent example tracked use of the industrial solvent Ethylene Glycol in the circuit board production at IBM where the rates of miscarriage were dramatically greater than average. The most recent advance in toxicology measurement is the concept of Lethal Concentration 50% (LC50) In a cubic metre enclosure, animals are exposed to different concentrations of the studied compound. The risk level is then determined by the concentration that kills 50% within 4 hours. The lungs are truly the greatest entry route into the body as we exchange (>30L/min) air gases & volatiles into our circulatory system. Future measurement will be done without killing animals by using molecular techniques to identify specific cellular disruption. One of the best ways to determine the relative safety of a product is to read recommendations on its MSDS describing how it should be disposed of. If, for example, there is a declared fine from a state or provincial environmental body (Sewer Laws) for dumping the product down drains - then it is probably acutely toxic. As examples, a disinfectant containing the synthetic o-phenyl-phenol (OPP) is only permitted at a maximum of 1 ppm (part per million) and for detergents containing NPE's (nonyl phenol ethoxlate) it is only 0.04 ppm. If a product label says " Domestic Disposal " , you can then feel comfortable. Hormone Disruptors Carson warned us in Silent Spring (1962) about the rapid ecological upheaval that was being caused by the widespread use of synthetic chemicals, especially in agriculture and forestry. The latest understanding in toxicology is about the ability of some chemicals to mimic hormones in living organisms. This field of study is about subtle genetic changes brought on by hormone disrupters. This is in contrast to the widely held notion that if a compound is toxic it will knock you out with a heavyweight punch. Hormonal activity in animals is regulated by the endocrine system. These hormones act like messengers relaying information to cells about how and when to grow, divide or die. When disrupted by chemicals, transgenerational genetic damage can occur. In-utero exposure to toxic compounds may sometimes cause birth defects, but will be more likely to emerge later in life at the time of maturity and reproductive prime. Synthetic compounds such as NPE's (Nonyl Phenol Ethoxylates) mimic hormonal structure and function, blocking important receptor sites in cells. What is especially amazing about these detergents (which have been banned by ALL European countries) is that it takes only one tenth of a part per million to cause reproductive damage in Salmon. The Salmon stocks are low due to intense pesticide use in agriculture and detergent use in the pulp and paper industry. Plastic Toxics Many man-made products have entered the marketplace with little or no toxicity testing. This is particularly true of plastic materials. In Dentistry, the most serious toxics (hormone disrupters) are the phthalates (DBP Dibutyl phthalate and DOP DiOctylPhthalate). These have been used as plasticizers for denture and soft lining materials. Over time they leach out into the oral cavity. It is advisable to obtain an MSDS on the products used in the laboratory to ensure these plasticizers are not part of your prosthesis. Composite resins have recently been noted to contain toxics. BisPhenol A, the core of the Bowen resin, along with Triethylene Glycol Dimethacrylate are mostly inert when fully polymerized, yet the uncured resin could have serious toxic effects. Heavy Metals Industrial sources have added three major metal toxics - Lead, Cadmium and Mercury to our rivers and lakes. These metals and their salts have been shown to be hormone disrupting and also cause neurological damage. Cadmium has been the raw material for yellow and red pigments used in porcelains and Denture Bases. Newer, safer pigments have been available for over 15 years, yet there are still some manufacturers who persist in using Cadmium. Almost 1/3 of the Mercury found in the Great Lakes basin can be traced to Dental origins. Because of this there will be increasing pressure on Dental Clinics to retrieve amalgam before it enters the wastewater. Finally, attention should be paid to minimize, replace or recycle any lead found in X-ray films and in older plumbing solder joints. Carcinogens / Teratogens The most common carcinogen that Dental staff have been exposed to, other than Cigarette smoke, is Formaldehyde. It is the most toxic and carcinogenic of the aldehyde family and is found in many Chemical Vapour sterilizer solutions. Many companies have taken steps to eliminate it from their formulae, and most Dental offices vent the sterilizers outside. Vapours from o-phenyl-phenol have been linked to throat cancer. The most common teratogen found in Dentistry is Ethylene Glycol, an industrial solvent that makes up about 5% of many spray disinfectants or the equivalent of 50,000 ppm. What can you do? If you are concerned about long term health issues, ask for an official letter from your product supplier confirming that their product does not contain any hormone disrupting chemicals, specifically Nonyl Phenol Ethoxlyate (NPE) or teratogens (Ethylene Glycol) or carcinogens (o-phenyl-phenol). Insist on a current (<3 years) Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS). Both the EPA and Health Canada have placed these chemicals on their priority list for rapid reduction in the marketplace. 1-800-489-8868 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 , I heard the same thing about light tuna but saw a story the other day saying that albacore had a lot b/c they're big (I think) In Ken Blanchard's book " Hypothyroidism, what your Dr. may not tell you " His fish facts for safe amounts to eat of canned tuna per week - based on body weight is: _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 i also read somewhere recently that albacore tuna is higher in mercury than the other canned tuna. sheila K a r e n P <karlynn17@...> wrote:, I heard the same thing about light tuna but saw a story the other day saying that albacore had a lot b/c they're big (I think) In Ken Blanchard's book " Hypothyroidism, what your Dr. may not tell you " His fish facts for safe amounts to eat of canned tuna per week - based on body weight is: _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 I don't have a link, but I can tell you from personal experience that when I stopped eating fish (and I ate mainly non " mercury " fish) my blood mercury levels dropped to almost nothing. Previously, I had eaten fish a couple times a week and they were close to the limit of whats considered normal. I was told this level is " normal " for a fish eater, but I honestly don't think any measurable level of mercury in your blood is " normal " . I have now not eaten fish for over a year, and my blood and hair mercury tests have normalized. Tuna is considered high in mercury because its a large predator fish. YMMV > > When I posted re my mystery illness/mystery cure and said I eat a lot > of tuna for protein. I was told of a possible mercury link. With > respect and appreciation to all I have not been able to substantiates > such claims in my research. I was told in several places that the risk > is so small as to be notworth concern, except for pregnant women and I > think, young children, may be wrong on the children. If someone can > produce evidence myresearch is wrong please post link > Thanks all > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Hi, Ribepeix is an interactive software program (Microsoft Access) that allows us to know risks (pollutant levels) and benefits (Omega-3 fatty acids) through our ingestion of fish and seafood. You can see more information on http://www.fibrofatiga-unidos info/content/view/617/1/ and use google translator Greetings -------Mensaje original------- De: bannerthehulk Fecha: 06/12/2007 13:07:12 Para: Asunto: Mercury in tuna When I posted re my mystery illness/mystery cure and said I eat a lot of tuna for protein. I was told of a possible mercury link. With respect and appreciation to all I have not been able to substantiates such claims in my research. I was told in several places that the risk is so small as to be notworth concern, except for pregnant women and I think, young children, may be wrong on the children. If someone can produce evidence myresearch is wrong please post link Thanks all avast! Antivirus: Mensaje entrante limpio. Base de datos de Virus (VPS): 071205-2, 05/12/2007 Comprobado el: 06/12/2007 15:30:47 avast! - copyright © 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 " bannerthehulk " <bannerthehulk@...> wrote: > > When I posted re my mystery illness/mystery cure and said I eat a lot > of tuna for protein. I was told of a possible mercury link. With > respect and appreciation to all I have not been able to substantiates > such claims in my research. > I was told in several > places that the risk is so small as to be not worth concern, > except for pregnant women and I > think, young children, may be wrong on the children. I would think that children, with their developing nervous systems, would be negatively impacted by excessive mercury from fish. >If someone can > produce evidence myresearch is wrong please post link > Thanks all > Calculate the mercury you're getting: http://www.gotmercury.org/ My sense is the upper limits are set about 3x too high, but even if you go with what's given here, mercury can add up. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 > If someone can > produce evidence myresearch is wrong please post link ***Hi - Have you had a blood test to check your mercury levels? There have been a few people here in Canada lately who have been found to have high levels of mercury after consuming tuna on a daily basis for long periods of time. These were news items so I don't have anything to back up my claims. One was a woman who went to her doctor complaining of constant fatigue. Another was a man who was eating three to four cans of tuna a day and had heard about the possibility of too much mercury. He had his blood tested and was found to be over four times the safe limit for mercury. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Hi , I have to second Bernie's post below from my own experience. Before my sudden flu-like onset of CFS, I ate tuna every day for a couple of years at least, I always had it for lunch. I was huge into working out and eating lots of protein to be fit back then. I didn't know much back then about the concern of mercury in fish and if I did read about it, I thought, I'm still healthy, it can't be a big deal. Well, finally 2 yrs after my crash an FFC doc tested my mercury level and it was 16, and the acceptable limit is <4. I took one bottle of DMSA not knowing you had to do more than that to treat it. I tested again this past September and my level was 10, still more than double the acceptable limit. Since I've never had any amalgam fillings, I am certain that my mercury toxicity is due to eating tuna daily for 3-4 yrs prior to my CFS crash. I am putting this as my top priority to treat now and am meeting with a doctor in a week to discuss the proper treatment. Good luck to you and let me know if I can help further! ~Stacey ***Hi - Have you had a blood test to check your mercury levels? There have been a few people here in Canada lately who have been found to have high levels of mercury after consuming tuna on a daily basis for long periods of time. These were news items so I don't have anything to back up my claims. One was a woman who went to her doctor complaining of constant fatigue. Another was a man who was eating three to four cans of tuna a day and had heard about the possibility of too much mercury. He had his blood tested and was found to be over four times the safe limit for mercury. Bernie --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 > > I am certain that my mercury toxicity is due to eating tuna daily for 3-4 yrs prior to my CFS crash. I am putting this as my top priority to treat now and am meeting with a doctor in a week to discuss the proper treatment. ***Hi Stacey - If the tuna is your only source of mercury, then keeping tuna out of your diet should eventually get your mercury levels back to a normal level within a years time. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 -Bernie If you accept what Rich says about PWCs having a methylation cycle block that prevents them detoxing, then what you say isnt' true. Stacey would have to chelate, or reinvigorate her methylation system, to unload the mercury. Louella -- In , " bernieanneca " <TigerLilea@...> wrote: > > > > > > I am certain that my mercury toxicity is due to eating tuna daily for > 3-4 yrs prior to my CFS crash. I am putting this as my top priority to > treat now and am meeting with a doctor in a week to discuss the proper > treatment. > > > > ***Hi Stacey - If the tuna is your only source of mercury, then keeping > tuna out of your diet should eventually get your mercury levels back to > a normal level within a years time. > > Bernie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Fish was the only source I KNEW of, but I wonder about daily sources in the environment, that'd be my only concern, which would indicate a possible ongoing exposure though I'm not sure how it'd be identified. ~Stacey > > > > I am certain that my mercury toxicity is due to eating tuna daily for > 3-4 yrs prior to my CFS crash. I am putting this as my top priority to > treat now and am meeting with a doctor in a week to discuss the proper > treatment. > > > > ***Hi Stacey - If the tuna is your only source of mercury, then keeping > tuna out of your diet should eventually get your mercury levels back to > a normal level within a years time. > > Bernie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 > > When I posted re my mystery illness/mystery cure and said I eat a lot > of tuna for protein. I was told of a possible mercury link. With > respect and appreciation to all I have not been able to substantiates > such claims in my research. I was told in several places that the risk > is so small as to be notworth concern, except for pregnant women and I > think, young children, may be wrong on the children. If someone can > produce evidence myresearch is wrong please post link > Thanks all > > I;'ve seen lots of cases of people who got toxic eating tuna a lot. While the only thing the public health departments talk about is not feeding it to pregnant or breastfeeding women (for whom more than one can a week is potentially toxic to the baby) a reasonable person would not assume that this means eating it daily was safe if they weren't pregnant! The easier way to decide is to read the signs and symtoms of mercury problems and maybe get a relevant test. A relatively good list of these is given on the web site for my book - www.noamalgam.com - and you can read the signs and symptoms for free on the web without buying the book. A description of how to use a hair test can be found in the files section of the autism mercury list on , or in my book on hair test interpretation (described at www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html - interpretive material for free on the group). Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 This discussion of the methylation cycle is a psychotic delusion. In mammals it has nothing to do with mercury, and in addition it doesn't work as described. For reasons unrelated to this kind of discussion, methylating supplements will help some people and in fact may be profoundly helpful, a lot of others will experience very long lasting angry aggressive agitation which can get them in a lot of trouble. If you have mercury and you want it gone you first stop getting exposed, then chelate properly. Proper chelation is determined by the basic chemical properties of the agents in question and is governed by the laws of nature. Unfortunately many doctors are liberal arts majors and don't appreciate this, so unless people are willing to take some responsibility to try to figure out for themselves how to do it right I would suggest not doing it at all. Andy > > > > > > I am certain that my mercury toxicity is due to eating tuna daily > for > > 3-4 yrs prior to my CFS crash. I am putting this as my top > priority to > > treat now and am meeting with a doctor in a week to discuss the > proper > > treatment. > > > > > > > > ***Hi Stacey - If the tuna is your only source of mercury, then > keeping > > tuna out of your diet should eventually get your mercury levels > back to > > a normal level within a years time. > > > > Bernie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 > > -Bernie > If you accept what Rich says about PWCs having a methylation cycle > block that prevents them detoxing, then what you say isnt' true. > Stacey would have to chelate, or reinvigorate her methylation system, > to unload the mercury. ***Hi Louella - I have a mouth full of amalgam fillings. My blood tests came back with mercury very low in the normal range so I'm guessing that I detox mercury without any problems even though my GSH test showed I have very low levels. Take care Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Bernie, which blood test/lab did you use that determined your mercury levels were normal? I did my test through doctorsdata and my mercury levels were highly elevated despite only 2 amalgams. Nat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 > > Bernie, which blood test/lab did you use that determined your mercury > levels were normal? > Hi Nat - My test was done through the lab at BC Children's Hospital. They are the only lab here in British Columbia that do mercury testing. My result was 8 (ref range <29). Take care. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Andy, I don't believe I'm either psychotic or delusional. I'm perfectly willing to participate in a discussion about chelation and methylation cycle theories but I don't much care for being insulted. I agree that some people may be helped by the supplements in a " methylating " protocol for reasons that may not be directly related to methylation. However, I've read Rich vanK's papers, and studied Dr Yasko's work, and find the biochemistry involved to have a lot more to recommend it than a lot of other goose chases I've been on trying to improve my health. I have a brain (which even works sometimes) and I've been spending a lot of time studying. I've tested positive for 12 genetic mutations that are related to how my body's methylation cycle functions. I can even tell you which ones, and, for most of them, which biochemical reactions are affected. I look forward to hearing in more detail about what, specifically, you disagree with regarding methylation cycle protocols. Sincerely, Marcia on in Salem, Massachusetts > > > > > > > > I am certain that my mercury toxicity is due to eating tuna daily > > for > > > 3-4 yrs prior to my CFS crash. I am putting this as my top > > priority to > > > treat now and am meeting with a doctor in a week to discuss the > > proper > > > treatment. > > > > > > > > > > > > ***Hi Stacey - If the tuna is your only source of mercury, then > > keeping > > > tuna out of your diet should eventually get your mercury levels > > back to > > > a normal level within a years time. > > > > > > Bernie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 I dont buy the mercury in fish theory there are other sources besides the main one of mercury /silver fillings which include possibly in crowns or root canals passed from mother into fetus, there is research in this , one in particular on a study of a dead fetus with mercury in the brain (this may mean if mother had fillings child would get some mercury) in the environment. maybe someone could comment on this thanks, Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 As I understand it (having been told this by Dr. Cheney), there are different kinds of mercury found in human bodies, one is the type found in mercury dental amalgams and the other kind is the type found in seafood. When Dr. Cheney tested me for mercury, he was able to tell that I had high levels of the seafood-type mercury and no measurable mercury from dental amalgams. Re: Mercury in tuna I dont buy the mercury in fish theory there are other sources besides the main one of mercury /silver fillings which include possibly in crowns or root canals passed from mother into fetus, there is research in this , one in particular on a study of a dead fetus with mercury in the brain (this may mean if mother had fillings child would get some mercury) in the environment. maybe someone could comment on this thanks, Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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