Probiotics

[Guest guest]

> > Bee: can you tell me what is Malto dextrin. I have rice Malto dextrin in my

probiotics too. Thank you!

+++Hi Star. Maltodextrin is a sugar additive used in many products - see this

list of sugars: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/sweetslist.php#a5

Bee

[Guest guest]

Dear Bee,

So can I take this probiotic if there's rice maltodextrin?

Last time I asked you about extremely high amount of carotene and your reply was

that it's a sign of vitamin A deficiency...however, carotene is pre-vitamin A.

Would it be a conflict if I have too much pre-vitamin A and still took vitamin A

supplements? Are there other candida sufferers with similar symptoms to mine?

Also, I will not have any bowel movement without using a lot of

probiotics...what's your advice on this problem?

Thank you very much,

Star

> > > Bee: can you tell me what is Malto dextrin. I have rice Malto dextrin in

my probiotics too. Thank you!

>

> +++Hi Star. Maltodextrin is a sugar additive used in many products - see this

list of sugars: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/sweetslist.php#a5

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Dear Bee,

>

> So can I take this probiotic if there's rice maltodextrin?

> Last time I asked you about extremely high amount of carotene and your reply

was that it's a sign of vitamin A deficiency...however, carotene is pre-vitamin

A. Would it be a conflict if I have too much pre-vitamin A and still took

vitamin A supplements?

+++Hi Star. Yes, you can take that probiotic, but ensure you aren't taking them

too soon, since they are the last step of my program for very good reasons, as

written in my main candida article.

There is no conflict since your body isn't converting carotene so it is high,

which is not vitamin A, while " true " vitamin A (retinol) could be low or

lacking. All of the fats and nutrients work together, including vitamin A, D, &

E, omega 3, butter, coconut oil, etc. and protein, minerals, vitamins, etc. so

your body will become able to re-balance any nutrients that are too high or too

low.

>Are there other candida sufferers with similar symptoms to mine?

+++What symptoms are you referring to?

> Also, I will not have any bowel movement without using a lot of

probiotics...what's your advice on this problem?

+++If you changed over to this program too fast you will get constipated since

it takes time to increase your good fats up high enough because they are

antifungal. Also if you've ever been constipated in the past your body will

" retrace " each and every episode in order to heal the area completely - see

Hering's Law of Cure on my website.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Dear Bee;

Do you notice other candida sufferers also have problem with excessively high

carotene and very low vitamin D and very low EFC.Do you know what causes this

symptom?

I needed to use probiotic to get my bowel movement for 2 years already. Do I

still use probiotic while staring your program? Otherwise I will not have any

bowel movement.

Star

> >

> > Dear Bee,

> >

> > So can I take this probiotic if there's rice maltodextrin?

> > Last time I asked you about extremely high amount of carotene and your reply

was that it's a sign of vitamin A deficiency...however, carotene is pre-vitamin

A. Would it be a conflict if I have too much pre-vitamin A and still took

vitamin A supplements?

>

> +++Hi Star. Yes, you can take that probiotic, but ensure you aren't taking

them too soon, since they are the last step of my program for very good reasons,

as written in my main candida article.

>

> There is no conflict since your body isn't converting carotene so it is high,

which is not vitamin A, while " true " vitamin A (retinol) could be low or

lacking. All of the fats and nutrients work together, including vitamin A, D, &

E, omega 3, butter, coconut oil, etc. and protein, minerals, vitamins, etc. so

your body will become able to re-balance any nutrients that are too high or too

low.

>

> >Are there other candida sufferers with similar symptoms to mine?

>

> +++What symptoms are you referring to?

>

> > Also, I will not have any bowel movement without using a lot of

probiotics...what's your advice on this problem?

>

> +++If you changed over to this program too fast you will get constipated since

it takes time to increase your good fats up high enough because they are

antifungal. Also if you've ever been constipated in the past your body will

" retrace " each and every episode in order to heal the area completely - see

Hering's Law of Cure on my website.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Dear Bee;

> Do you notice other candida sufferers also have problem with excessively high

carotene and very low vitamin D and very low EFC.Do you know what causes this

symptom?

+++Hi Star. Any imbalances are caused by a depressed immune system, which is

caused by lack of proper nutrients, toxins, foods and drinks that feed candida,

bacteria and cancer, etc., etc.

>

> I needed to use probiotic to get my bowel movement for 2 years already. Do I

still use probiotic while staring your program? Otherwise I will not have any

bowel movement.

+++It won't hurt to take probiotics if you are already on them.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee, I want to pass this by you.

>

> When I was very very sick, I'm sure with yeast overgrowth,to the point that I

had parasites, my digestive tract was a mess. My nuropath recommended Dr.

Ohhira's probiotics. I took them for 2 years and they helped make me get real

strong so that I could get my life back. Then I started eating like just about

everyone else eats,while taking the probiotics. I knew I had candida because I

couldn't stay away from the sugar and breads. I stopped taking them 1 month

before I started this diet.

> I don't know if you are familiar with these probiotics. The ingredient list is

pretty lenghty. I don't want to write it down, it would take to much room. Could

you possibly check these out and let me know if they would be alright to take

with the diet?

+++Hi Angie. Yes I am very familiar with Dr. O's probiotics. On my program you

add probiotics last. It won't hurt you to take them sooner, but they also kill

off candida which increases die-off symptoms, so it is more important to start

on the diet, take all supplements and take unrefined coconut oil as the only

antifungal.

Ensure you read this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Also read Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee, this is Angie, thank you for you quick reply.

>  

> My first attempt to make probiotics with the recipe using cabbage came out

bad.

>  

> That's the reason I asked if I could use Dr. O's probiotics, I guess I could

try your recipe for probiotics one more time.

>  

>  I read on the forum that I should leave the lid off the quart jar is that

correct?

>  

> I live in phoenix and it is about 85 degrees in my house at different times of

the day. 

>  

> The recipe says to put it in a room about 70 degrees, should I put it in the

fridge because of the heat here in Arizona may cause it to spoil? Or is it ok at

85 degrees?

>  

Hi Angie Portillo. Like I advised previously probiotics are very unimportant

compared to " proper nutrients " anyway, so why bother with them?

In fact probiotics are so unimportant that I am considering deleting them my

program. That is because your body is very capable of producing the proper

probiotics it requires when it is healthy enough to do so.

It is too cold in the fridge to allow proper fermentation to occur, so you need

to find a location that is close to room temperature, i.e. basement? No, 85

degrees is too warm, which will make it ferment too fast and spoil it.

All the Best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> > Hi Bee, my name is Sascha.

> >

> > I feel like I am through the anti-fungal/cleansing part of the diet. I do

not crave sugar or carbohydrates and my die off symptoms are gone.

> >

> > I have taken the supplements and have strictly adhered to your diet since

March. I definitely feel better than I have in a long time...

> >

> > I don't understand how my body will plant probiotics by itself. In the link

you gave me to " Curing Candida, How to Get Started " it says the final step is to

plant beneficial bacteria in the intestines. I think I am a bit confused. How

do I go about doing this if the probiotics I've been using aren't taking?

+++Hi Sascha. Welcome to our group. Congratulations for being on my program

and feeling better!

+++I'm considering deleting taking probiotics since the human body is smart

enough " to create any beneficial bacteria " it requires if you give it what it

needs to get healthy, which is mainly " proper nutrients. "

> >

> Also I haven't had a period in about five months. Not sure if this is candida

related. Curious on your opinion.

+++It is very common for periods to stop for some time when on this program,

since your body needs to attend to more important aspects of health.

>

> One other question....are Shirataki noodles okay on the diet? I found this

website www.miraclenoodles.com.

+++No, please do not have those noodles! If it seems too good to be true, it

IS! My diet is " back to nature " so all processed food are not included. Those

noodles are not " real food " my friend.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

I find mine at Earth Fare, and it is near the herbs but in a refrigerated

section.  My LLMD prefers the refrigerated probiotics.  I hope that helps.

From: Bratt <memawbratt@...>

Subject: [ ] Probiotics

Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:13 PM

 

My Lyme doc told me to get Milk Thistle and Probiotics to take along with

the Doxy. Can someone please explain to me what the Probiotics are? We

looked in several stores for it, but looked in the herb section. Are we

looking in the wrong section or looking for the wrong thing? Any help would

be appreciated. Thanks.

n

[Guest guest]

Yes, antibiotics kills off the healthy as well as the unhealthy bacteria.

Probiotics is putting back the healthy and will help with the possible side

effects of nausea, diarrhea, yeast infections, etc. Look in the

refrigerator section at a health food store.... just ask one of the clerks

at any health food store and they can get you situated.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Bratt <memawbratt@...> wrote:

>

>

> My Lyme doc told me to get Milk Thistle and Probiotics to take along with

> the Doxy. Can someone please explain to me what the Probiotics are? We

> looked in several stores for it, but looked in the herb section. Are we

> looking in the wrong section or looking for the wrong thing? Any help would

> be appreciated. Thanks.

>

> n

>

>

[Guest guest]

Probiotics aren't herbs. They're bacteria. The doxy will kill off all

the good bacteria in your gut that are necessary for digestion and

proper immune function, leaving you at risk for some very serious

complications with lifelong implications. Probiotics, taken at least

an hour away from your antibiotics, will replace those lost bacteria.

The best probiotics will be found in the refrigerator case of a health

food store. (Whole Foods has a great selection.) There are shelf-

stable varieties, but they're not as effective as the ones that must

be kept cold. In addition to two different probiotics (one of which is

a " hospital formula " specifically aimed at c. difficile), I also take

a daily dose of probiotic yogurt, which is available in any grocery

store. Activia is one popular brand. Kefir, a probiotic yogurt drink,

also works.

Sara

On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Bratt wrote:

> My Lyme doc told me to get Milk Thistle and Probiotics to take along

> with

> the Doxy. Can someone please explain to me what the Probiotics are? We

> looked in several stores for it, but looked in the herb section. Are

> we

> looking in the wrong section or looking for the wrong thing? Any

> help would

> be appreciated. Thanks.

>

> n

>

>

[Guest guest]

My dr recommended Jarro-Dophilus. It is enteric and doesn't have to be

refrigerated and seems to work great. Carol

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Sara

<srobinson@...>wrote:

>

>

> Probiotics aren't herbs. They're bacteria. The doxy will kill off all

> the good bacteria in your gut that are necessary for digestion and

> proper immune function, leaving you at risk for some very serious

> complications with lifelong implications. Probiotics, taken at least

> an hour away from your antibiotics, will replace those lost bacteria.

>

> The best probiotics will be found in the refrigerator case of a health

> food store. (Whole Foods has a great selection.) There are shelf-

> stable varieties, but they're not as effective as the ones that must

> be kept cold. In addition to two different probiotics (one of which is

> a " hospital formula " specifically aimed at c. difficile), I also take

> a daily dose of probiotic yogurt, which is available in any grocery

> store. Activia is one popular brand. Kefir, a probiotic yogurt drink,

> also works.

>

> Sara

>

>

[Guest guest]

I take one called I Flora. I get it from a nutritionist.

Dara

>

> OK-New topic. What type of probiotic do you take? My doctor recommended

> Florastor, but then I read that if you have Candida (which I probably do),

> it's only 60 to 70% effective. I know we need a strong probiotic, and I

> usually like the ones I get from the health food store that have at least 10

> billion units. Curious to know what you are all taking.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Janet

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

VSL #3 which has 225 billion organisms per two capsules. There is also

prescription variety called VSL #3 DS with yucky tasting powder that you

blend with juice or water. (still yucky!)

http://shop.vsl3.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=vsl3 & StoreType=BtoC & Count1\

=404445827 & Count2=321586251

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Janet Ring <janet.ring@...> wrote:

>

>

> OK-New topic. What type of probiotic do you take? My doctor recommended

> Florastor, but then I read that if you have Candida (which I probably do),

> it's only 60 to 70% effective. I know we need a strong probiotic, and I

> usually like the ones I get from the health food store that have at least

> 10

> billion units. Curious to know what you are all taking.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Janet

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

GR-8 was recommended to me by a candida specialist. I can order it at a nice

price or pay local retail at $17 which is too much. Doug

From: Janet Ring <janet.ring@...>

Subject: [ ] Probiotics

Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 2:43 PM

 

OK-New topic. What type of probiotic do you take? My doctor recommended

Florastor, but then I read that if you have Candida (which I probably do),

it's only 60 to 70% effective. I know we need a strong probiotic, and I

usually like the ones I get from the health food store that have at least 10

billion units. Curious to know what you are all taking.

Thanks,

Janet

[Guest guest]

I am taking Theralac. I take two a day - each two hrs after/before taking

antibiotics

Here's the website:

http://theralac.com/Default.aspx

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Janet Ring <janet.ring@...> wrote:

>

>

> OK-New topic. What type of probiotic do you take? My doctor recommended

> Florastor, but then I read that if you have Candida (which I probably do),

> it's only 60 to 70% effective. I know we need a strong probiotic, and I

> usually like the ones I get from the health food store that have at least

> 10

> billion units. Curious to know what you are all taking.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Janet

>

>

[Guest guest]

i make kefir, which they say is 10 times stronger than Yogurt, and much better

than any capsule you can take. I am on two different antibiotics, (for 3 months

so far) and will be for another year at least...

I have yet to have any yeast infections or any stomach upsets because of the

kefir, I also give it to my dogs and my guinea birds.. it helps tremendously

with my colitis and acid reflux (actually eliminated it!)

I would NOT live without it for sure...

here is a good link to learn about it, all you need to do is buy some grains,

and make your own fresh kefir everyday with milk. Its VERY SIMPLE and so good...

http://www.kefir.org/kefir_manual.htm

Terri

WI

[Guest guest]

Where do you order the GR-8?

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:40 PM, douglas richey <dglsrichey@...>wrote:

>

>

> GR-8 was recommended to me by a candida specialist. I can order it at a

> nice price or pay local retail at $17 which is too much. Doug

>

>

>

> From: Janet Ring <janet.ring@... <janet.ring%40comcast.net>>

> Subject: [ ] Probiotics

>

> < %40>

> Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 2:43 PM

>

>

>

>

> OK-New topic. What type of probiotic do you take? My doctor recommended

>

> Florastor, but then I read that if you have Candida (which I probably do),

>

> it's only 60 to 70% effective. I know we need a strong probiotic, and I

>

> usually like the ones I get from the health food store that have at least

> 10

>

> billion units. Curious to know what you are all taking.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Janet

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy, I forget, I just put in GR-8 on the web search and picked the cheapest. I

think by buying 2 or more I got it for 8-9 $. Doug

>

> >

> >

> > GR-8 was recommended to me by a candida specialist. I

> can order it at a

> > nice price or pay local retail at $17 which is too

> much. Doug

> >

[Guest guest]

terri,

systemic yeast causes a ton more symptoms than just yeast infection and/or

stomach issues. one could have overgrowth of yeast but not necessarily have

those two symptoms so please be careful as in my opinion just kefir is

definitely not enough.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:56 PM, terri <kent@...> wrote:

>

>

> i make kefir, which they say is 10 times stronger than Yogurt, and much

> better than any capsule you can take. I am on two different antibiotics,

> (for 3 months so far) and will be for another year at least...

> I have yet to have any yeast infections or any stomach upsets because of

> the kefir, I also give it to my dogs and my guinea birds.. it helps

> tremendously with my colitis and acid reflux (actually eliminated it!)

> I would NOT live without it for sure...

> here is a good link to learn about it, all you need to do is buy some

> grains, and make your own fresh kefir everyday with milk. Its VERY SIMPLE

> and so good...

> http://www.kefir.org/kefir_manual.htm

>

> Terri

> WI

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Where do I access information on your site re not taking probiotics now.Also I

see that when you reach 5 tablespoons of co eventually you will reduce it back

to three. When do you do that?

+++Hi there. What is your name please?

I haven't written it up on my website yet, since I have to re-write most of my

candida article to also remove taking any antifungals other than unrefined

coconut oil. I also have to re-write how candida occurs in the body, since it

doesn't happen because good bacteria are wiped out - that theory is based upon

the germ theory of disease which is totally false.

To understand why I do not recommend taking probiotics go to Message #79316

where I explain it.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Where do I access information on your site re not taking probiotics now.Also

I see that when you reach 5 tablespoons of co eventually you will reduce it back

to three. When do you do that?

>

> +++Hi there. What is your name please?

>

> I haven't written it up on my website yet, since I have to re-write most of my

candida article to also remove taking any antifungals other than unrefined

coconut oil. I also have to re-write how candida occurs in the body, since it

doesn't happen because good bacteria are wiped out - that theory is based upon

the germ theory of disease which is totally false.

>

> To understand why I do not recommend taking probiotics go to Message #79316

where I explain it.

>

> The best, Bee

Okay. Name Grainne. Was posting from another e mail address until now. Again

when do you know to reduce coconut oil back to three tablespoons. Obviously I'm

not ready yet. Have only just worked my way up to 5 tablespoons this week.

Re. Vaginal thrush. Have had a lot of what I believe to be retracing, weak legs,

sluggish bowel and sinus trouble. Worked through them all but the one thing that

does not seem to have improved at all is the vaginal thrush. Did your douching

program and following all diet and supplement.

[Guest guest]

>

> Okay. Name Grainne. Was posting from another e mail address until now. Again

when do you know to reduce coconut oil back to three tablespoons. Obviously I'm

not ready yet. Have only just worked my way up to 5 tablespoons this week.

+++Hi Grianne. After you are completely healthy you can take the maintenance

dose of 3 tablespoons per day, which is what I do.

+++It takes 1 month of natural healing for every year you've been unhealthy, and

for most people today that is since before they were born.

> Re. Vaginal thrush. Have had a lot of what I believe to be retracing, weak

legs, sluggish bowel and sinus trouble. Worked through them all but the one

thing that does not seem to have improved at all is the vaginal thrush. Did your

douching program and following all diet and supplement.

+++It took me 2 1/2 years to cure my vaginal thrush because I had it for about

30 years, in spite of doing douches, etc., so curing it depends upon how long

you've had it too. In the meantime it will come and go because your body has to

" retrace " each and every episode with it while healing itself - see this

article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Bee has removed probiotics from her program. So there is no need to buy any.

Jackie

(group moderator)

>  

> I would like to purchase some probiotics and was wondering which brand

you might recommend. 

[Guest guest]

I take Culturelle.  It has 10 billion cells of Lactobacillus GG. It's available

everywhere. Online @ Culturelle.com,etc.  At drugstores you'll find it with

products for digestion.  It's also available Gluten free.

 

Can anyone tell me what I can take for nausea and gastrointestinal problems

while taking antibiotics?

 

Thanks,

Shirley

>

>

> OK-New topic. What type of probiotic do you take? My doctor recommended

> Florastor, but then I read that if you have Candida (which I probably do),

> it's only 60 to 70% effective. I know we need a strong probiotic, and I

> usually like the ones I get from the health food store that have at least

> 10

> billion units. Curious to know what you are all taking.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Janet

>

>