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Hi Peggy...

I haven't had Hyperbaric treatment very recently, but here's a link

to a previous message I posted to this board about my past

experiences.

/message/97177

I had IV Vitamin C (45 grams) before each session in the chamber.

It certainly detoxifies chemicals! At one point after pesticide

exposure I couldn't see (my optic nerves are a weak point due to

previous toxoplasmosis infection) and I had to be accompanied on an

airplane to another city for an urgent treatment. I had my eyesight

fully restored by the following morning. I was monitored by an eye

specialist at a nearby hospital by request of my general practice

doctor and neither of them could believe the speed of recovery.

My understanding is that HBOT increases superoxide dismutase by many

hundreds of percent in the liver for the duration of the treatment

and the chemicals are " flushed " out. I could taste them and smell

them coming out.

There's more than one superoxide dismutase enzyme system. One is

copper/zinc superoxide dismutase. Zinc is often low in cfs and mcs at

least. (In my case copper is high also so I have an imbalance of the

two.) Another is dependant on manganese. All are, I believe,

dependant on glutathione.

I think the treatment is very, very effective, in the short term at

least, when it comes to dealing with chemical poisoning. But as I

mentioned in the post I linked to, I think the ideal long term

solution for recovering health lies in getting these enzyme systems

working again permanently.

I hope you'll feel better for some treatment. Perhaps you could some

Vitamin C, if you're not already, before the oxygen. (I took massive

doses as mentioned above.)

Anne (CFS/FMS for 21 years)

PS I'm sorry I can't help with the claustrophobic aspect of it. I

think the chamber I was treated in was fairly big....the doctor told

me it fit four good size firemen! Except for my emergency treatment I

was usually treated along with one other patient.

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have recently acquired a home hyperbaric chamber (either for a

couple of months or

> permanently) and I'm beginning to use it but finding the whole

experience pretty

> claustrophobic/weird/difficult. I would love to hear any *updates*

from people who have

> done HBOT -- either short-term or long-term -- especially those

with severe CFIDS and

> CFIDS with accompanying MCS. Any information on protocols that

worked, etc., would also

> be helpful. The reason I decided to try HBOT finally is that I had

a significant carbon

> monoxide poisoning incident over a year ago, and then, this past

August, I had an episode of

> methemoglobinemia (blackish blood) from a pesticide exposure.

Since HBOT is a standard

> treatment for both of these, and since my CFIDS is so bad at this

point, I decided to give it a

> go.

>

> Any information would be appreciated.

>

> Peggy

>

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Peggy,

If you watch Cheney DVD you'll see that he thinks HBOT can be bad for CFIDS

and potentially dangerous. Also, Dr. J. Goldstein halted an HBOT study he began

in the 1990's because he though it was too dangerous. Steve B.

peggomatic <Peggomatic@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have recently acquired a home hyperbaric chamber (either for a couple of

months or

permanently) and I'm beginning to use it but finding the whole experience pretty

claustrophobic/weird/difficult. I would love to hear any *updates* from people

who have

done HBOT -- either short-term or long-term -- especially those with severe

CFIDS and

CFIDS with accompanying MCS. Any information on protocols that worked, etc.,

would also

be helpful. The reason I decided to try HBOT finally is that I had a significant

carbon

monoxide poisoning incident over a year ago, and then, this past August, I had

an episode of

methemoglobinemia (blackish blood) from a pesticide exposure. Since HBOT is a

standard

treatment for both of these, and since my CFIDS is so bad at this point, I

decided to give it a

go.

Any information would be appreciated.

Peggy

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Hi Peggy,

Here's the person you should chat it up with about the HBOT. I have a home

chamber and love it. I use it for lyme, but found I felt much better all around

from it's use. I want to use it the rest of my life. I think oxygenating

oneself has no downside and quite a few upsides. Don't let it go. Lance is a

very good source for info. You might even want to visit his site.

From: Lance Brubaker [mailto:lance@...] On Behalf Of

lance@...

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:14 PM

'edyfields@...'

Subject: HBOT

Good talking to you today.

For treatment info go to www.hbotreatment.com

For chamber specifications go to www.genoxinc.com

Prices are below.

Lance Brubaker

NetPhysician, Inc.

Office: 678-957-0156

Cell: 770-560-2676

Fax: 678-935-3994

lance@...

Hyperbaric (HBOT)

Hi all,

I have recently acquired a home hyperbaric chamber (either for a couple of

months or

permanently) and I'm beginning to use it but finding the whole experience

pretty

claustrophobic/weird/difficult. I would love to hear any *updates* from people

who have

done HBOT -- either short-term or long-term -- especially those with severe

CFIDS and

CFIDS with accompanying MCS. Any information on protocols that worked, etc.,

would also

be helpful. The reason I decided to try HBOT finally is that I had a

significant carbon

monoxide poisoning incident over a year ago, and then, this past August, I had

an episode of

methemoglobinemia (blackish blood) from a pesticide exposure. Since HBOT is a

standard

treatment for both of these, and since my CFIDS is so bad at this point, I

decided to give it a

go.

Any information would be appreciated.

Peggy

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To perhaps shed some light on the oxygen thing, although I don't know

anything about hyperbaric, I just saw Dr. Cheney and he give me some

oxygen, 28% mixture, through nose clips after a certain point in the

echo test. We'd already established I had a PFO hole, grade one,

smallest size. So I had the remnants of a migraine and generally felt

like shit that day, and that oxygen felt great. I loved it.

However, the PFO hole increased to a grade two while on it. Then five

minutes after taking me off the oxygen, the hole enlarged to grade

three.

He said my diastolic function first improved, then went south on the

oxygen. He reckoned the increase in pulmonary pressure blew the PFO

hole wider and also caused vasoconstriction.

So things that feel good are not always good for us. He said I was

probably at my threshold and perhaps would have had a positive

experience with a lower mix of oxygen but we didn't try that.

> Hi all,

>

> I have recently acquired a home hyperbaric chamber (either for a

couple of months or

> permanently) and I'm beginning to use it but finding the whole

experience pretty

> claustrophobic/weird/difficult. I would love to hear any *updates*

from people who have

> done HBOT -- either short-term or long-term -- especially those

with severe CFIDS and

> CFIDS with accompanying MCS. Any information on protocols that

worked, etc., would also

> be helpful. The reason I decided to try HBOT finally is that I had

a significant carbon

> monoxide poisoning incident over a year ago, and then, this past

August, I had an episode of

> methemoglobinemia (blackish blood) from a pesticide exposure. Since

HBOT is a standard

> treatment for both of these, and since my CFIDS is so bad at this

point, I decided to give it a

> go.

>

> Any information would be appreciated.

>

> Peggy

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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For those of you that are interested in hyperbaric (HBOT) treatments. I

went through 34 in a mono-chamber. I had just finished Rocephin IV

with no major herx. About half way through I had a major herx involving

my sinus and lungs after starting HBOT. I attribute getting well to the

benefit of HBOT working sinergestically with meds. HBOT is the only

thing that will sufficiently cross the blood brain barrier. Meds on

their own can only enter the spinal cord and brain in very small

amounts. For some that may be all that is needed. I have had Lyme for

20 years and so it was pretty well disseminated throughout my brain and

body. And yes, you can have Lyme for many years then some serious event

takes place in your life (as in my case shingles 7 years ago) the

bacteria become active and overpower your immune system.

There are a lot of different chambers out there. If you do decide to do

HBOT only do a mono-chamber. Lyme patients need to go down deeper and

for longer periods. My treatment was for 90 minutes at 2.8 ATA. The

facility that I used was in San Diego, CA called Healing Chambers of

America http://www.hboinfo.com. I was fortunate to go there as they are

extremely Lyme literate and compassionate. They have been treating Lyme

patients for many years. They charged me a discounted rate because I

was a Lymee of $176 per treatment. The number of treatments that you

might need is not a set number but, dependent on your personal needs.

When children have treatments they allow a care-giver to be in the

chamber with them. The chambers allow you to sit up or lay down and

have windows. I am extremely thankful that I had the treatments. I am

still on meds and my doctor is rotating every seven days between three

antibiotics as he says to take care of any stragglers.

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