Healing

[Guest guest]

Hi candace,

I forgot to mention eggs. So beef and eggs are in for me. I react

badly to all forms of soy. I've cut out mushrooms since they are mold.

Do what is right for you.

I've also noticed that eating smaller quantities of food less

frequently has helped.

I want to emphasize that the diet has only helped me control my symptoms.

Sue.

> > > > Hey everyone,

> > > > This is a very general question. I was just

> > > > wondering how people have felt that the candida diet,

> > > > etc. have helped them, i.e. which symptoms have

> > > > cleared up, what has gotten worse, has anyone

> > > > " recovered " from their problems and eliminated the

> > > > yeast. If it never goes away, and all this treatment

> > > > is so costly, time consuming and irritating, it is

> > > > almost better sometimes to just live with the

> > > > symptoms.... What does everyone think?

> > > > Thanks a bunch,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > =====

> > > > Wolfe

> > > >

> > > > _________________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I agree, right now it is helping me get better.  I don’t really have any other problem

though – I mean other than Leaky gut – that cause

my problems.  So I assume that once I get

my stuff balanced internally – I should be good… just a matter of

when I get it there.

Thank you for the information Sue!

Candace

From: candidanomore

[mailto:candidanomore@...]

Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004

8:07 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: healing

Hi candace,

I forgot to mention eggs. So beef and eggs are in

for me. I react

badly to all forms of soy. I've cut out mushrooms

since they are mold.

Do what is right for you.

I've also noticed that eating smaller quantities

of food less

frequently has helped.

I want to emphasize that the diet has only helped

me control my symptoms.

Sue.

> > > > Hey everyone,

> > > > This is a very

general question. I was just

> > > > wondering how people have felt

that the candida diet,

> > > > etc. have helped them, i.e.

which symptoms have

> > > > cleared up, what has gotten

worse, has anyone

> > > > " recovered " from

their problems and eliminated the

> > > > yeast. If it never goes

away, and all this treatment

> > > > is so costly, time consuming

and irritating, it is

> > > > almost better sometimes to

just live with the

> > > > symptoms.... What does

everyone think?

> > > > Thanks a bunch,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > =====

> > > > Wolfe

> > > >

> > > >

_________________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

,

For once I can say I think I'm in absolute

agreement.

Cheers,

--- jcgre <johngrellner@...> escribió:

---------------------------------

-

no problem, my messages can be vague and hard to

follow. What I mean

by that is I don't avoid carbs and natural sugars. I

don't believe

that trying to starve candida will solve the health

issues of people

on this list. I turn the problem on its head. I want

to cure the

underlying problem that leads to candida overgrowth

the candida my

cause some health problems, but the biggest problems

are what caused

the candida.

That is not to say I eat the typical american diet.

to the contrary,

I avoid processed foods as much as possible, don't eat

refined sugars,

and try to eat a healthy whole foods diet that will

help heal my body.

the key to recovering from candida while eating fruit

and natural

carbs is to cleanse the liver, cleanse the colon,

cleanse the kidney,

eat a " healthy " (see Moritz, " key to health and

rejuvenation " ) and

make certain lifestyle changes relating to sleep,

exercise,

meditation, stress ect. In short, become a whole

person again.

anyone can do it.

I have even read and believe that trying to starve

candida without

addressing a persons underlying issues can lead to

serious long term

complications, none the least of which is a miserable

life where food

is seen as the enemy.

johng

> > Hey everyone,

> > This is a very general question. I was just

> > wondering how people have felt that the candida

> diet,

> > etc. have helped them, i.e. which symptoms have

> > cleared up, what has gotten worse, has anyone

> > " recovered " from their problems and eliminated the

> > yeast. If it never goes away, and all this

> treatment

> > is so costly, time consuming and irritating, it is

> > almost better sometimes to just live with the

> > symptoms.... What does everyone think?

> > Thanks a bunch,

> >

> >

> > =====

> > Wolfe

> >

> >

>

_________________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

What is all this about mercury in the mouth? Is that

fillings?

Cheers,

--- jcgre <johngrellner@...> escribió:

---------------------------------

Hey Penny-

I still vividly remember when it first dawned on me

that candida too

was just a symptom. a powerful moment not to be

forgotten. Be

careful with the mercury, taking them out can put a

powerful load on

the body, which may not be ready to deal with.

Seriously think about

some real cleansing first, clean you out and make you

strong in

preparation.

johng

> Hi:

>

> I guess I've read every post on this site for the

past three months

or more.

> What I've learned in that time has

been...........well, astounding.

>

> I've been battling Candida for 15 years. And

completely agree with

jcgre,

> if you don't try to get yourself well, it will only

get worse.

>

> In my latest battle with Candida, I have not

touched wheat, dairy,

corn,

> sugar, yada, yada, yada for four and a half months

(except, I

confess, four

> cookies and a mincemeat tart on Christmas day) I

also take

supplements out

> the wazoo. And Udo's oil and inulin and whey. And

on and on.

>

> Then, two weeks ago today, I had mouth surgery and

have since slowly

slipped

> downhill. Yesterday, I was at the bottom of the

barrel. Today, enough

> energy to sit in front of the computer but not much

else.

>

> It occurred to me that this should not be happening.

I have done

nothing to

> encourage the Candida and have kept my mouth

scrupulously clean as

far as

> infection goes.

>

> A lightbulb is dawning. I am beginning to see what

jcgre and the

others are

> saying. For some of us at least, Candida may be a

symptom of an

underlying

> problem and not THE problem per se.

>

> I have an appointment tomorrow to see about having

the mercury

removed from

> mouth, etc. And I am " hyped " (as someone 1/4 my age

would say). Maybe

> there is a light at the end of the tunnel!! Oh

please oh please oh

please.

>

>

>

> Re: healing

>

>

> symptoms will get worse probably, as will underlying

problems, ending

> in serious chronic disease. I agree the diet does

not work, but

> throwing in the towel could have a very high cost.

[Guest guest]

Jennny,

That is yet another area I have to look into. ie the amalgam.

I had the dentist fill out three of my teeth with silver stuff. Is that amalgam.Other than amalgam is there anything the dentists ever use. I was meant to call up the dentist who did my teeth but I yet have to find the number or go there physically. Oops am so lazy when it comes to going places.

How do I know if it is really amalgam that they used. What is the difference between mercury and amalgam.

thanks

Yo Africa friend.

Ag.

[Guest guest]

I think the idea is that mold and yeast are both fungi that if you have a yeast

over growth your body may react to all sorts of

fungi and this taxes the body at a time when it needs its energy and resources

to throw off the yeast infection.

Bruce

From: " M. "

> Hi Sue,

>

> You may want to do more research on the mushrooms... I

> personally haven't looked into it very much as I know

> just to avoid peanuts. But I did ask my ND and she

> told me that there is no scientific evidence to

> conclude that mold helps yeast... but again, try and

> read up on it to make your decision.

[Guest guest]

The silver colored fillings are a metal amalgam (mixture) made of about 50% mercury with silver and other metals in lesser amounts. Alternatives to mercury fillings are a white plastic which many dentists use and ceramic or gold, that I know of.

Regards, Bruce

http://www.testfoundation.org/toxicteeth.htm

"The modern silver amalgam (amalgam meaning mixed with mercury), traditionally known as a "silver" filling, has been employed as the principal tooth restorative material for over 180 years and presently accounts for 75-80% of all tooth restorations. These "silver" fillings contain approximately 50% mercury by weight, 35% silver, 13% tin, 2% copper and a trace of zinc. Each tooth restoration has a mercury mass of about 750-1000 mg and should more properly be called a mercury filling. They have a functional life of approximately 7-9 years, after which they are usually replaced with another mercury filling. Hundreds of metric tonnes of mercury are placed into teeth world wide each year and some of this material, as particulate waste from the dental office, finds its way into the sewerage and refuse systems."

http://user.icx.net/~drherb/mercury.html

"According to the American Dental Association's (ADA) code of ethics, a dentist who discusses the toxicity of mercury amalgams ('silver' fillings) or who advocates for their removal for health reasons may have acted unethically. Based on the ADA's position, dental boards across the nation have taken disciplinary action against dentists who oppose mercury fillings."

Can you believe that? :|

http://www.mercola.com/2001/apr/21/mercury.htm

http://www.testfoundation.org/toxicteeth.htm

----- Original Message -----

From: Agnes Namala

Jennny,

That is yet another area I have to look into. ie the amalgam.

I had the dentist fill out three of my teeth with silver stuff. Is that amalgam.Other than amalgam is there anything the dentists ever use. I was meant to call up the dentist who did my teeth but I yet have to find the number or go there physically. Oops am so lazy when it comes to going places.

How do I know if it is really amalgam that they used. What is the difference between mercury and amalgam.

thanks

Yo Africa friend.

Ag.

[Guest guest]

My son has been on Peptizyde for 10 days. He had loads of energy by day 7, seems

more alert and more involved with life. Now he has been sick today and has a

red ear. He had red ears years ago when his bowel was due to play up usually

after eating the wrong thing. So he has not eaten at all today having been sick

and now the red ear. Wonder if anyone else has had this? Is it like the body

healing itself?

Sally

[Guest guest]

My son also had red ears when he has a food he " doesn't tolerate " . I put

that into parenthesis because I used his red ears as a marker to look for

what he'd eaten that was a known no-no. Plus his red ears were a cue that

other bad things were to come. Now, however, I think it may just be a

reaction, but perhaps I shouldn't qualify it as " doesn't tolerate " so much

as " challenging " to his system. What I mean is, I'm beginning to remove the

negative connotation to the food. Red ears were one of the first things we

experienced with the cellulose version of the enzymes. His behavior went

downhill, as did his health, and motor skills, speech, bowels, etc. We were

very excited to go back to the rice based enzymes. However, we no longer

need OoO or GSE. I don't Officially Know this, but we get negatives from

them and no positives, and no recurrence of the negatives having gone

without. The break in rice based enzymes and dosing difference ( we went not

only to cellulose but bulk version also) may have been the break my son

needed somehow. All I know is, it's wonderful not to have to throw in the

GSE or OoO into empty capsules. A couple less things to give him. There is a

lot about rice and yeast, and then there is (amalayse?) that is in rice I

believe he needs and then the cellulose versions were more potent, and

because it was bulk he was probably getting more than a capsules worth on

average per use. Anyhow red ears are a definite indicator for us that

something is up, I'm just not sure how to classify it, other than to say the

body is " reacting " . Good or bad, I don't know anymore. But that is why I am

going back to school. I'm tired of not knowing. UC has a Food Science

major with a biochemistry and microbiology emphasis. Maybe after this

schooling I still won't " know " , but at least I'll be able to say what is

what, instead of going by my gut.

Re: Healing

> My son has been on Peptizyde for 10 days. He had loads of energy by day 7,

seems more alert and more involved with life. Now he has been sick today

and has a red ear. He had red ears years ago when his bowel was due to play

up usually after eating the wrong thing. So he has not eaten at all today

having been sick and now the red ear. Wonder if anyone else has had this?

Is it like the body healing itself?

> Sally

>

>

[Guest guest]

That is so fantastic! And I know what you mean about wanting

to " know " . I've always gone through school/college doing quite well

but hating every minute of it. Now with this whole area, it is so

intriguing for the first time in my life I would love to actually

LEARN about.

Good luck,

Kari

Good or bad, I don't know anymore. But that is why I am

> going back to school. I'm tired of not knowing. UC has a Food

Science

> major with a biochemistry and microbiology emphasis. Maybe after

this

> schooling I still won't " know " , but at least I'll be able to say

what is

> what, instead of going by my gut.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the encouragement. I have to complete a years' worth of Calculus,

Physics, Chemistry, some organic chemistry and biology prior to applying to

their program. All courses I avoided when I got my BA as an English major.

Re: Healing

> That is so fantastic! And I know what you mean about wanting

> to " know " . I've always gone through school/college doing quite well

> but hating every minute of it. Now with this whole area, it is so

> intriguing for the first time in my life I would love to actually

> LEARN about.

> Good luck,

> Kari

>

>

> Good or bad, I don't know anymore. But that is why I am

> > going back to school. I'm tired of not knowing. UC has a Food

> Science

> > major with a biochemistry and microbiology emphasis. Maybe after

> this

> > schooling I still won't " know " , but at least I'll be able to say

> what is

> > what, instead of going by my gut.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Patty,

Thank you for a sensitive post. When I first found out I had ruptured implants,

I was

frantic. Then I became depressed, as I was being diagnosed with one autoimmune

illness

after another. I read an email to Dr. Kolb I wrote shortly before surgery, and

it made me

remember how depressed I was. For a time, I was feeling suicidal. I did not

find this

forum, then, but I found explantation.com. Without the women there (like many

of you

here), I don't know if I would have made it. I truly felt my life was over.

I didn't know where to go or how to begin this journey.

I didn't know what a capsule was -- I thought it was part of the implant. Heck,

I didn't

know what an 'explant' was. I never considered my implants to be a problem,

until a man

whom I had not even met in person asked me if I had implants. I had told him I

was too

sick to continue researching for him, and he asked me why. When I told him what

was

going on, he asked " Do you have breast implants? " Talk about being floored. It

was then

that I told my internist and she ordered MRIs that showed rupture. By then I

was

diagnosed with mulitple sclerosis, Hashimoto's thyroiditis, diabetes, peripheral

neuropathy

in all my extremities, connective tissue disease/lupus and fibromyalgia.

My heart goes out to women who come in here scared, because that is exactly

where I was.

I desperately needed to hear about what steps I could take to find a doctor,

what explant

meant, how I could begin recovery and talk to other women who felt the fears I

felt. It was

truly a lifesaver for me. What I liked about this forum was the focus on

healing...how we

can begin to recover from such horrible toxins...

What you described about the different stages women go through describe the

stages of

grief. We lose something of ourselves when we face explant, and serious

illness.

These stages include denial, depression, anger, and finally acceptance. I may

have left

something out, but this is much of what I have experienced. And sometimes I

vascillate

still between those stages... After a year and a half, I am better but still

have a long way to

go. My life was upended when I became ill and found out my implants were

ruptured.

There are other forums that talk about botox, plastic surgery etc etc...

Those are not forums that interest me, but they may interest others. I didn't

think that

was what this forum, or other explant-related forums, are about.

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > I guess I need to just come right out and ask you

> > > since I'm being asked about you.

> > >

> > > Are you shilling for anyone? . . . i.e. the plastic

> > > surgery industry? . . .

> > >

> > > I hope not! However your posts are sounding more like

> > > advertising for cosmetic procedures than support for

> > > women sick from their implants.

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thank you for sharing your story!

I am new to this, self-diagnosed (but it's OBVIOUS)

and would like to ask you a couple of questions...

How much Three-Lac were you taking when you felt so

terrible? (I've recently begun it; am up to 3 doses

per day, and don't feel markedly different yet, though

some minor things are happening which are not that

terrible.)

Were the tests you mentioned done through a GP, GE, or

ND?? (I'm trying to determine which doc to use;

financial constraints are a MAJOR concern...)

Thank you so very much!!

--- ~susan w~ <peacefulmeow@...> wrote:

> A couple of people have asked me to re-post how I

> got better - and I will try to remember everything

> so I can describe it, but I am sure I will leave out

> some things, so bear with me.

>

> It took me about 18 months to get over candida.

> It would have been shorter if I had had more

> information, but I had to do a lot of trial and

> error. I made a lot of mistakes. One was that I

> tried Three-lac and it just made me very ill. In

> fact I thought I was going to die, like the worst

> flu imaginable.

>

> history - I had been on antibiotics for acne for

> 10 years. I got a vaginal bacterial infection which

> then led to a vaginal yeast infection that simply

> would not go away. I also had MANY candida symptoms

> such as insomnia, body pain, urinary pain, skin

> problems, yeast strands in my stool, etc. (Turns out

> I didn't have acne after all, which is ironic. It

> was all yeast-related. NAG has basically cured my

> seborrheic dermatitis.) I finally got OFF of the

> antibiotics, even though the doc said I didn't need

> to!.

>

> I finally found the Whole Approach program and

> Walt Stoll's website, and I incorporated ideas from

> both of those. I used the WA diet and

> psyllium/bentonite/caproyl shakes religiously. I

> used rotating anti-fungals INCLUDING prescription

> ones like powdered nystatin, which Walt Stoll

> recommends because it only acts on the intestines,

> which is usually the source of the candida

> overgrowth. I used probiotics including SBO's and

> VSL#3. I used Skilled Relaxation to heal my gut,

> as well as TONS of supplements, including aloe and

> L-Glutamine. I alkalized through diet and juicing.

> I didn't completely avoid vinegar, pickles,

> sauerkraut, dietary yeast, tamari etc. because those

> things do not harm all candida sufferers. You MUST

> individualize for your body! It is not a one-diet

> fits all proposition. The Whole Approach diet did

> not have enough carbs for me, so I added in one

> serving per day and was fine (healthy carbs of

> course!!).

>

> The biggest thing I learned and would do

> differently is get tested sooner, so you know

> exactly what you status is! I wish I had done my

> testing soon after diagnosing myself, and then after

> I was better. Get the lactulose/mannitol test for

> leaky gut, the Vaginosis profile (if you are a

> woman!) and the Comprehensive Digestive Stool

> Analysis. These test are SO helpful in assessing

> the magnitude of your problem and your healing.

> They are expensive but WORTH EVERY PENNY.

>

> I hope this helps someone - feel free to ask

> questions. I now eat a healthy diet but I can enjoy

> things like red wine and an occasional cookie

> without worry.

>

> www.wholeapproach.com

> www.askwaltstoll.com

>

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[Guest guest]

The doctor that worked with my daughter, Dr. Gunthrie, from Detroit Receiving

Hospital and his team have talked about the benefits of using HBOT post surgery

and pre-surgery (if they were part of a trama.) I'll be praying for your son's

quick healing and reduction of pain!

Tami

LEANNE ANTAYA <leanneantaya@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

Just a quick question. My son had emergency surgery on Sunday morning. The

doctors placed a rod into his fractured femor. Has anyone had experience

with hbot and healing. I'm considering giving him some hbot to help to aid

the healing process quicker. Man, is he in a lot of pain.

Thanks.

>From: " judith burkholder " <judith_burkholder@...>

>Reply-medicaid

>medicaid

>Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Truth about HBOT - according to Bella

>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:27:36 -0500

>

>,

>We got our first reimbursement for a cp diagnosis. sorry, it wasn't Bella's

>but at least it is a start.

>Judy

>

>

> >From: " moscarello8 " <moscarello8@...>

> >Reply-medicaid

> >medicaid

> >Subject: [ ] Re: Truth about HBOT - according to Bella

> >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:22:08 -0000

> >

> >Jill,

> >

> >Thank you for taking the time to reply.

> >

> >I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas and that the

> >year 2007 is finally the year that HBOT for our children, our loved

> >ones - finally starts to truly materialize.

> >

> > Ann Moscarello

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Thank you for your input. Beautiful insight not only for

> >HBOT but for

> > > brain-injured children everywhere and for those parents who are

> >fighting

> > > to make a difference.

> > >

> > > Jill

> > > Cleveland, TN

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >__________________________________________________________

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> > >

[Guest guest]

I have a number of files, about a dozen, on wound healing with HDOT. May I send

them to you?

Yours

[ ] Re: Truth about HBOT - according to Bella

> >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:22:08 -0000

> >

> >Jill,

> >

> >Thank you for taking the time to reply.

> >

> >I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas and that the

> >year 2007 is finally the year that HBOT for our children, our loved

> >ones - finally starts to truly materialize.

> >

> > Ann Moscarello

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Thank you for your input. Beautiful insight not only for

> >HBOT but for

> > > brain-injured children everywhere and for those parents who are

> >fighting

> > > to make a difference.

> > >

> > > Jill

> > > Cleveland, TN

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >__________________________________________________________

> >___

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[Guest guest]

yes please do. please send to leanneantaya@... thanks!!!

>From: " Fox- " <xristlin@...>

>Reply-medicaid

><medicaid >

>Subject: Re: [ ] healing

>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:13:09 -0000

>

>I have a number of files, about a dozen, on wound healing with HDOT. May I

>send them to you?

>

>Yours

>

>

> [ ] Re: Truth about HBOT - according to Bella

> > >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:22:08 -0000

> > >

> > >Jill,

> > >

> > >Thank you for taking the time to reply.

> > >

> > >I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas and that the

> > >year 2007 is finally the year that HBOT for our children, our loved

> > >ones - finally starts to truly materialize.

> > >

> > > Ann Moscarello

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your input. Beautiful insight not only for

> > >HBOT but for

> > > > brain-injured children everywhere and for those parents who are

> > >fighting

> > > > to make a difference.

> > > >

> > > > Jill

> > > > Cleveland, TN

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >__________________________________________________________

> > >___

> > > > Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month!

> > > > Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage.

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Leanne,

I do have several scientific abstracts on file... I

will send them to you privately...

Best wishes,

Sunny

--- LEANNE ANTAYA <leanneantaya@...> wrote:

>

> Hi, everyone,

> Just a quick question. My son had emergency surgery

> on Sunday morning. The

> doctors placed a rod into his fractured femor. Has

> anyone had experience

> with hbot and healing. I'm considering giving him

> some hbot to help to aid

> the healing process quicker. Man, is he in a lot of

> pain.

> Thanks.

>

> >From: " judith burkholder "

> <judith_burkholder@...>

> >Reply-medicaid

> >medicaid

> >Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Truth about HBOT

> - according to Bella

> >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:27:36 -0500

> >

> >,

> >We got our first reimbursement for a cp diagnosis.

> sorry, it wasn't Bella's

> >but at least it is a start.

> >Judy

> >

> >

> > >From: " moscarello8 " <moscarello8@...>

> > >Reply-medicaid

> > >medicaid

> > >Subject: [ ] Re: Truth about HBOT -

> according to Bella

> > >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:22:08 -0000

> > >

> > >Jill,

> > >

> > >Thank you for taking the time to reply.

> > >

> > >I hope you and your family have a wonderful

> Christmas and that the

> > >year 2007 is finally the year that HBOT for our

> children, our loved

> > >ones - finally starts to truly materialize.

> > >

> > > Ann Moscarello

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your input. Beautiful

> insight not only for

> > >HBOT but for

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>

> I thought I had been having allergic reactions to my wifes soups.

When

> we cook a whole chicken or a pork roast she makes soup from the

juices

> and fat. When I eat the soups my nose runs like a faucet has been

> turned on. But none of the soups all have a common ingredient so it

> didn't make sense. It just dawned on me that the good fats and other

> stuff in those soups must be creating some kind of healing reaction.

> Very interesting if true.

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==>Andy, yes good foods would cause healing symptoms like increased

mucus in your nose. Good for you on spotting it.

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Sue, the comment is correct for systemic infections generally but

immune response has little to do with bowel infestations.

Duncan

>

> does anyone know if this is true. Candida grows when

> your immune system is out of balance. Once you get the

> balance in check, the candida will die.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Pippa! Welcome to the group. I hope you find healing for you and your family

here.

I don't know where you started, or where you've been or how you came to be here,

but I can tell you about my experience.

The food approach that changed my life was Nourishing Traditions (a cookbook

that is as much like a textbook) by Sally Fallon who is with the Weston A. Price

Foundation. Knowing that you have gut dysbiosis, you may need a more strict

approach such as that outlined in Gut and Psychology Syndrome or The Body

Ecology Diet, but I think NT is a good place for everyone to start.

Of course I believe everyone needs to eliminate white flour and white sugar AND

hydrogenated fats and high fructose corn syrup AND fake foods and food colorings

and preservatives...

I also think everyone needs to add some raw, organic foods to their diet and to

include some fermented foods such as kombucha, kvass, live sauerkraut, kimchi,

kefir, yogurt etc.

Those with sensitivity may also need to remove dairy (casien) and gluten (found

in some grains). I myself, really need to watch the carbs as I am very carb

sensitive.

I wish there WAS one RIGHT approach that worked for everyone. But you are right

that we are all different and have different needs. Luckily, we are also much

the same and so can identify with each other and help each other on the path to

wellness.

Kathy BSN, RN

Optimal Health Connection

Interim Moderator

[Guest guest]

I am on a very restricted diet, www.healingnaturallybybee, probiotics, supplements and have been for several years. The clue for me was Slippery Elm Bark in homemade green juice. I used a tbsp per day. I took it for 6 months and have just recently gone down to a tsp a day and then none. I haven't been without the bark for very long, but am doing fine.

[Guest guest]

I think a comprehensive stool analysis by a naturopath is essential. It's helpful to understand what gut bacteria are lacking and what parasites might be present. My son really battled with yeast and after a year and half of natural supplements trying to get rid of it, we opted to put him on a 2 month course of Nystatin which has made all the difference. The yeast was causing chronic inflammation in his gut and his gut wouldn't heal with the supplements until the yeast was eradicated. I have found the following supplements to be helpful: slippery elm bark, L-glutamine, probiotics (Klaire Labs Therbiotic Complete), cod liver oil by Nordic NaturalsI also think that the book Gut And Psychology Syndrome offers good guidance for understanding Leaky Gut, what supplements are helpful, offers recipes and specific dietary instructions. Nourishing Traditions is a helpful cookbook loaded with nutritional info. The chicken bone-in broth from Gut and Psychology Syndrome really seems to be crucial for my son. I can literally see color come into his cheeks following a bowl. He's usually pasty white. He loves to eat the broth with lots of cooked chicken skin in it and I understand that animal fat (from organic meats) are also vital to healing the gut.Patience is crucial too. Even when your extended family thinks you're nuts for doing all the natural supplements and restricted diet! It's been about a year for my family but the changes in my 5 year old are remarkable. Good luck.On Apr 20, 2009, at 4:54 AM, pippacragg@... wrote:Hi everyoneWe are new to the group. My daughter, son and I all have gut dysbiosis, and would love to connect with other families who are trying to heal. It has been an incredible tricky journey, the 'usual' approach has hardly ever worked for us, and my children have been unable to tolerate even probiotics.My first question is to find out if anyone can recommend a supplement/food/drink/ approach etc that really catapulted their healing process into a new phase or was the real turning point for them in terms of healing. I know how unique we all are, but thought it was worth asking what had really worked for everyone else.thanks.Pippa=

[Guest guest]

Hi KathyThank you so much for your response.  I have bought Nourishing Traditions but have not yet had a chance to look at it, I must do.   My daughter and I are following a mostly GAPS diet, although I cannot eat nuts or eggs (my 11 month old son is breastfeeding and gets badly affected), and my daughter after a year and a half still has problems with fruit and nuts.  I still cannot eat grains, but my daughter can now eat a small amount of gluten free grains.  My 11 month old son is unable to tolerate any food as yet.  He wakes constantly throughout the night whenever I try give him purees or tiny amounts of probiotics.  Our lives are complicated!PippaOn 21 Apr 2009, at 13:12, realfoodie2003 wrote:Hi Pippa! Welcome to the group. I hope you find healing for you and your family here.I don't know where you started, or where you've been or how you came to be here, but I can tell you about my experience.The food approach that changed my life was Nourishing Traditions (a cookbook that is as much like a textbook) by Sally Fallon who is with the Weston A. Price Foundation. Knowing that you have gut dysbiosis, you may need a more strict approach such as that outlined in Gut and Psychology Syndrome or The Body Ecology Diet, but I think NT is a good place for everyone to start.Of course I believe everyone needs to eliminate white flour and white sugar AND hydrogenated fats and high fructose corn syrup AND fake foods and food colorings and preservatives...I also think everyone needs to add some raw, organic foods to their diet and to include some fermented foods such as kombucha, kvass, live sauerkraut, kimchi, kefir, yogurt etc.Those with sensitivity may also need to remove dairy (casien) and gluten (found in some grains). I myself, really need to watch the carbs as I am very carb sensitive.I wish there WAS one RIGHT approach that worked for everyone. But you are right that we are all different and have different needs. Luckily, we are also much the same and so can identify with each other and help each other on the path to wellness.Kathy BSN, RNOptimal Health ConnectionInterim Moderator

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your reply .  I am going to take a look at that website.PippaOn 21 Apr 2009, at 20:20, Murray wrote:I am on a very restricted diet, www.healingnaturallybybee, probiotics, supplements and have been for several years.  The clue for me was Slippery Elm Bark in homemade green juice.  I used a tbsp per day.  I took it for 6 months and have just recently gone down to a tsp a day and then none.  I haven't been without the bark for very long, but am doing fine.