Intro.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for writing Jacki. I am confused as to what I should join. I don't

quite understand this onelist site yet. I've tried to locate archives but am

not sure how to do it. Is there one place I join or many? I appreciate any

help you can offer. Marcie

[Guest guest]

Dear marcie,

My name is Jacki and I manage the vaccineinjuriesonelist list.

I urge you to join and have your husband go through the archives and read

the stories about our children. Once he reads these stories I am sure he

will want to learn the truth about vaccine damage. Hope this helps and your

making the right decision.

love, Jacki

Intro.

>From: Dlfnluvr@...

>

>Hello, my name is Marcie and I live in a small town in NY state. I am a

>special education teacher and am currently working with an autistic

student.

>After starting a support group here, I am hearing a great deal about the

>possibility of vaccinations causing disabilities. I have a 1 year old son

>and I no longer want him to receive vaccinations. My husband is completely

>against me on this and I want to continue to research to see if this is

what

>I should do. I want to learn more about herbs, minerals, and vitamins and

>also how to stay away from dairy products as much. I have a great deal to

>learn and I hope you can all aide me in my searches.

>

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[Guest guest]

Marcie,

My cousin in Hopewell Jnct., NY has an autistic son. Are you near there?

I'll email you a couple of articles I wrote.

Be Well,

gary

Coalition For Informed Choice. Krasner, Director

PO Box 230426, Hollis, NY 11423

fax/phone: 718-479-2939, email: gk-cfic@...

" Protect your rights! Become an advocate and inform others "

On Sat, 15 May 1999 12:27:48 EDT Dlfnluvr@... writes:

>From: Dlfnluvr@...

>

>Hello, my name is Marcie and I live in a small town in NY state. I am

>a

>special education teacher and am currently working with an autistic

>student.

>After starting a support group here, I am hearing a great deal about

>the

>possibility of vaccinations causing disabilities. I have a 1 year old

>son

>and I no longer want him to receive vaccinations. My husband is

>completely

>against me on this and I want to continue to research to see if this

>is what

>I should do. I want to learn more about herbs, minerals, and vitamins

>and

>also how to stay away from dairy products as much. I have a great

>deal to

>learn and I hope you can all aide me in my searches.

>

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[Guest guest]

I am in a small town that is somewhat near Buffalo and Rochester. I am near

the Pennslyvania border.

[Guest guest]

,

Hi I am new to the list, and saw that you have a cousin in hpwll jntn. I am

in Poughkeepsie which is about 15 miles north of there. small world huh?

Katy

Re: Intro.

> From: L Krasner <gk-cfic@...>

>

> Marcie,

> My cousin in Hopewell Jnct., NY has an autistic son. Are you near there?

>

> I'll email you a couple of articles I wrote.

>

> Be Well,

> gary

>

> Coalition For Informed Choice. Krasner, Director

> PO Box 230426, Hollis, NY 11423

> fax/phone: 718-479-2939, email: gk-cfic@...

> " Protect your rights! Become an advocate and inform others "

>

>

>

>

>

> On Sat, 15 May 1999 12:27:48 EDT Dlfnluvr@... writes:

> >From: Dlfnluvr@...

> >

> >Hello, my name is Marcie and I live in a small town in NY state. I am

> >a

> >special education teacher and am currently working with an autistic

> >student.

> >After starting a support group here, I am hearing a great deal about

> >the

> >possibility of vaccinations causing disabilities. I have a 1 year old

> >son

> >and I no longer want him to receive vaccinations. My husband is

> >completely

> >against me on this and I want to continue to research to see if this

> >is what

> >I should do. I want to learn more about herbs, minerals, and vitamins

> >and

> >also how to stay away from dairy products as much. I have a great

> >deal to

> >learn and I hope you can all aide me in my searches.

> >

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>

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Marcie,

the reason i wanted you to join is you have to subscribe to the list in

order to read any mail contained in the list. once you join the list even if

its only for a few days you and your husband can go in and view all the old

mail-archives and read the stories about our vaccine injured children. my

hope is it will convince your husband to research the side effects of

vaccination more fully and hopefully back your decision. if you are still

confused e-mail me and i can send you some of the mail directly.

jacki

Re: Intro.

>From: Dlfnluvr@...

>

>Thanks for writing Jacki. I am confused as to what I should join. I don't

>quite understand this onelist site yet. I've tried to locate archives but

am

>not sure how to do it. Is there one place I join or many? I appreciate

any

>help you can offer. Marcie

>

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[Guest guest]

Katy,

Indeed it is, especially with the internet.

Unfortunately, my cousin and his wife are not sold on the idea that their

boy's autism was vaccine induced. But that's my assumption because they

don't like to talk about it. Ironically, I'm pretty close with them too.

But I can't penetrate the wall they've constructed.

You're wlcome to try. Maybe you or your husband has something in common

with them. Interested??

gary

On Sun, 16 May 1999 13:09:27 -0400 " katy puglis " <katypuglis@...>

writes:

>From: " katy puglis " <katypuglis@...>

>

>,

>

>

>Hi I am new to the list, and saw that you have a cousin in hpwll jntn.

> I am

>in Poughkeepsie which is about 15 miles north of there. small world

>huh?

>

>Katy

> Re: Intro.

>

>

>> From: L Krasner <gk-cfic@...>

>>

>> Marcie,

>> My cousin in Hopewell Jnct., NY has an autistic son. Are you near

>there?

>>

>> I'll email you a couple of articles I wrote.

>>

>> Be Well,

>> gary

>>

>> Coalition For Informed Choice. Krasner, Director

>> PO Box 230426, Hollis, NY 11423

>> fax/phone: 718-479-2939, email: gk-cfic@...

>> " Protect your rights! Become an advocate and inform others "

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On Sat, 15 May 1999 12:27:48 EDT Dlfnluvr@... writes:

>> >From: Dlfnluvr@...

>> >

>> >Hello, my name is Marcie and I live in a small town in NY state. I

>am

>> >a

>> >special education teacher and am currently working with an autistic

>> >student.

>> >After starting a support group here, I am hearing a great deal

>about

>> >the

>> >possibility of vaccinations causing disabilities. I have a 1 year

>old

>> >son

>> >and I no longer want him to receive vaccinations. My husband is

>> >completely

>> >against me on this and I want to continue to research to see if

>this

>> >is what

>> >I should do. I want to learn more about herbs, minerals, and

>vitamins

>> >and

>> >also how to stay away from dairy products as much. I have a great

>> >deal to

>> >learn and I hope you can all aide me in my searches.

>> >

>>

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>> >

>> >At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the

>Internet.

>>

>> ___________________________________________________________________

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>> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at

>http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html

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>>

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>

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[Guest guest]

So I have subscribed but I do not know exactly how to access the archives.

The letters A-Z come up and I'm not sure what to look under. I tried

vaccinations but it brings up the screen to sign up- and I already have. Any

suggestions?

[Guest guest]

Try juicing a carrot, slice of fresh piineapple, an orange or a grapefruit,

each morning.

[Guest guest]

Dear Marcie,

I used to live in a small town in upstate NY called Barneveld, and I have

heard that an old playmate from childhood named Marcie, now lives in a small

town in upstate NY. Could this be you? Her name was Marcie , and we

grew up in Cincinnati. Anyway, it sounds like you are on the right track

with your bowels.

This lemonade fast was helpful to me. I did it with the guidence of my

chiropractor. For 3 days only I used fresh lemons mixed with distilled water

and pure maple syrup, you shouldn't have a problem finding that in your part

of the country especially at this time of year. In addition, I was supposed

to drink all sorts of distilled water and take some herbal suppliments that

he provided to assist the liver, gall bladder, kidneys and lymph glands in

excreting their toxins. On the day I started I did a colonic treatment and

on the third day. The third day was the best!! The colonic stuff smelled

like lemons, of course, but after about half and hour, out came a huge, egg

size hunk of old stuff that must have been in there for years. It was really

a fantastic feeling. On days 4-10 I was to eat nothing but fresh fruits,

vegetables and brown rice and baked potatoes, as well as mucho distilled

water and the herbal supplements. I also continued the colonic treatments

about 3 times a week for maybe 3 weeks. I am feeling quite a bit better now,

just knowing how much gunk came out of me.

My bowels are still not what I would consider normal, but with the assistance

of enemas and colonics I am feeling like I at least have a handle on it. I

have been experience diarreaha and find that an enema will put a stop to it

for at least a day.

I don't get it, but whatever works.

Good luck to you and everyone else.

Betsy

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I'm not Marcie . Thanks for the comments. I want to learn more

about colonics. I wondered if they took out too much too fast or if they

were ok.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/02/2000 7:48:21 PM Central Standard Time,

dlfnluvr@... writes:

<< Sorry, I'm not Marcie . Thanks for the comments. I want to learn

more

about colonics. I wondered if they took out too much too fast or if they

were ok.

>>

I'm on # 9 in a series of 12. I think they are wonderful. They have cleared

up

many things for me. Norman has a couple of great books on this.

[Guest guest]

Hey Marcie and everyone else,

The place where I go do colonics is different from other places I have heard

about. I like it very much because it puts me in control. I have to freedom

to allow as much or as little water into my colon as I choose, and I can

expel it when I choose. I am in a private room with a space heater, and a

radio. I turn the lights off. You lie on the colonic table and scoot your

bum up to the hole place where the water empties into a large toilet. You

stick the little thingy inside your rectum, it goes in about 3 inches and is

smaller in diameter than a pencil, it is flexible yet stiff, if that makes

any sense. When you are all situated you ring the bell and someone comes in

to turn on the water and set the timer. It is set for 30 mins.Then you are

left to deal with it as you wish. The water is about 94 degrees and filtered

to some extent which I don't really know. It is my experience that the colon

has a mind of its own. Sometimes it is really not in the mood to allow a

fill up, and no matter how hard I try it just doesn't want to allow such an

intrusion. But on other days the water can just flow in for quite some time

before it need to expel. I picture it like this: the colon is like an old

balloon that has been inflated to nearly bursting capacity and then the air

is let out. Now the balloon has much more surface area and this is where the

debris can hide for years and even a lifetime. As the water inflates the

colon the nooks and crannies expand, allowing the debris to let escape their

hiding places. The larger the colon is inflated the more debris comes out.

But in some cases I think it is practically attached to the colon like a

growth and these are the big ones that are hard to get at. It takes patience

and work to get them to come loose. I massage my belly during the colonic

and find that does help to loosen up the trapped debris. After the " egg "

came out I could feel the spot on my colon where it came of. I can even

still feel it, if I think about it. I picture it like a skinned knee. It

causes a minor scrape in the colon that can be felt. It doesn't really hurt

at all. It is just a sensation that I have never really had before. It is a

good feeling really to know something really old and toxic has left my body.

In general, this doesn't happen on the first colonic. I suppose there are

things you can do to assist in this process, especially the lemon juice fast

and belly massage during the colonic. Look at a diagram of the colon so you

understand how it lies there in the belly and which direction it flows. It

is fascinating.

One of these days I hope to be able to get a home colonic kit for about $300.

For me the worst part of the colonic is being on the clock. I don't like

the pressure of the time constraint.

Best wishes,

Betsy

[Guest guest]

Hi Betsy,

What was this " egg " thing that came out from a colonic? J.

[Guest guest]

Drink water, water, water, water.....I've had the same problem--eating all

kinds of fiber and staying constipated makes no sense until you realize it's

got to absorb LOADS of water to make it all the way through the system. If

it doesn't get enough water, it sits like CONCRETE in your intestines. Try

drinking more water than usual--10-12 8 oz. glasses a day, and you'll be

surprised. You may think you already drink lots of water, but measure it out

and see!

Hope this helps!

[Guest guest]

The egg thing was just a hunk of garbage that I suppose had been sitting in

there for years, unfortunately I never got a look at it. Later during a

lemon juice enema another smaller egg came out, my doctor calls them " shoes, "

those are what we are after.

Betsy

[Guest guest]

can someone forward me recipes for enemas and fast..i missed them as part of

this group

thanks

tracy

[Guest guest]

Hi Stefanie,

Welcome to the list. I have a blend of patchouli and some other oils with

jojoba that my clients have found to be helpful for dandruff. As your man is

from Bangladesh he might find it appealing too ;-) - Natasha

Kamakura Garden - It's Only Natural - Japan

http://www.kamakura-garden.com

Aroma Herbal Body Beauty & Skin Care Secrets

[Guest guest]

Hi

My son has had a thing for years about his socks. They have to be the same height and go up to above his knees. Now it's not an easy task to find socks to go above his knees. You basically have to get socks that are too big. And heaven forbid if you mix up shorter socks with longer socks. We used to have terrible meltdowns about it. I never knew it was OCD. Now I realize it was. He's on zoloft now and much better. My husband and I really didn't want to go to meds but there came a time when all of his "habits" were just affecting his life and ours too much.

You are lucky to have found a good therapist. I don't know of anyone specific so I'm still looking. I found one in our area who just treats OCD but she's booked up for 2 months so I don't know if I should wait for an opening or find someone else.

Good luck.

Son 9, diagnosed with OCD in June. Probably has other things going on also.

Intro.

Well, here goes. My name is and I have a five year old son who I believe may have OCD and Anxiety Disorder. Although we have our first appointment with a well respected Child and Adolescent Psychologist in two weeks I have come here for support and education in the meantime.Our story actually starts out when our son was three (although we didn't make anything of it at the time, just thought it was normal kid stuff). The first thing I can think of that could be OCD related was his constant checking to be sure his door was closed. He would close his door and then go back 10-20 times just to be sure it was closed and jiggle the door to be sure it wouldn't open. If he came home from pre-school and found that I had opened his door he would be really angry with me. Then that eventually stopped and the next thing I remember is him having to have his shirt tucked in. And I don't just mean tucking it in once, he would tuck it in and then constantly keep tucking just to be sure no part of it had come untucked. It was amazing the things he could do while tucking his shirt in. We have had many other things between then and now, but it seems that his life is finally becoming affected by these things. Our latest is hoarding, we can't throw anything away if he is around and just yesterday I found him putting the contents of my trash can under his bed. He also seems to have something going on with his feet. It started with his socks. He couldn't stand the seems around his toes, he would scream and yell at us if we didn't get the right socks on. I finally went out and found some that work for him and then it moved from his socks to his feet itching every time we tried to put on shoes. His favorite sport is roller hockey and we have had to temporarily take him out because he won't put on his skates or pads. He says that everything is either to tight, to loose or his feet itch. I have put things on 10-20 different times trying to get it right but it never seems to help. Yesterday we were at his pre-kindergarten class and I couldn't get him to go in because he had taken off his shoes on the way to school and I couldn't get them back on. He was angry at me and I was angry at him. The teacher came out just before I picked up everything and went home. I was on the verge of tears and so completely frustrated. Thank god I have control over my own actions because all I wanted to do was pick up that darn shoe and throw it at him. I don't know how to deal with these things with him. He yells at me when I am trying to put on his shoes and says that I just want his feet to hurt and that he doesn't have to do anything if he doesn't want to (meaning go to school). In addition to the above symptoms he also suffers from major anxiety over anything new. More than most. He has a very hard time with seperation from either my husband or myself. Which is probably the reason things seem to have flared up recently, he just started back to school a couple of weeks ago. I can count the number of times on one hand that he has actually gone to a friends house. We always have kids to our house but he never wants to go to theirs. Which is okay with me but I think he is missing out on alot. I see other kids really enjoying themselves at each others houses.Anyway, I know that I have written quite a long post here and I appreciate anyone that has read on this far. If anyone has any thoughts on how to deal with these things I would be so thankful. We have two and a half weeks until our appointment and I am just trying to hang in there until then.Thanks again~You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at http://www.egoups.com/group/ . Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... .

[Guest guest]

Are there any long term side effects to the medications that they use? And how long do they stay on the medication?

Terry Migdal <zmterry@...> wrote:

Hi

My son has had a thing for years about his socks. They have to be the same height and go up to above his knees. Now it's not an easy task to find socks to go above his knees. You basically have to get socks that are too big. And heaven forbid if you mix up shorter socks with longer socks. We used to have terrible meltdowns about it. I never knew it was OCD. Now I realize it was. He's on zoloft now and much better. My husband and I really didn't want to go to meds but there came a time when all of his "habits" were just affecting his life and ours too much.

You are lucky to have found a good therapist. I don't know of anyone specific so I'm still looking. I found one in our area who just treats OCD but she's booked up for 2 months so I don't know if I should wait for an opening or find someone else.

Good luck.

Son 9, diagnosed with OCD in June. Probably has other things going on also.

Intro.

Well, here goes. My name is and I have a five year old son who I believe may have OCD and Anxiety Disorder. Although we have our first appointment with a well respected Child and Adolescent Psychologist in two weeks I have come here for support and education in the meantime.Our story actually starts out when our son was three (although we didn't make anything of it at the time, just thought it was normal kid stuff). The first thing I can think of that could be OCD related was his constant checking to be sure his door was closed. He would close his door and then go back 10-20 times just to be sure it was closed and jiggle the door to be sure it wouldn't open. If he came home from pre-school and found that I had opened his door he would be really angry with me. Then that eventually stopped and the next thing I remember is him having to have his shirt tucked in. And I don't just mean tucking it in once, he would tuck it in and then constantly keep tucking just to be sure no part of it had come untucked. It was amazing the things he could do while tucking his shirt in. We have had many other things between then and now, but it seems that his life is finally becoming affected by these things. Our latest is hoarding, we can't throw anything away if he is around and just yesterday I found him putting the contents of my trash can under his bed. He also seems to have something going on with his feet. It started with his socks. He couldn't stand the seems around his toes, he would scream and yell at us if we didn't get the right socks on. I finally went out and found some that work for him and then it moved from his socks to his feet itching every time we tried to put on shoes. His favorite sport is roller hockey and we have had to temporarily take him out because he won't put on his skates or pads. He says that everything is either to tight, to loose or his feet itch. I have put things on 10-20 different times trying to get it right but it never seems to help. Yesterday we were at his pre-kindergarten class and I couldn't get him to go in because he had taken off his shoes on the way to school and I couldn't get them back on. He was angry at me and I was angry at him. The teacher came out just before I picked up everything and went home. I was on the verge of tears and so completely frustrated. Thank god I have control over my own actions because all I wanted to do was pick up that darn shoe and throw it at him. I don't know how to deal with these things with him. He yells at me when I am trying to put on his shoes and says that I just want his feet to hurt and that he doesn't have to do anything if he doesn't want to (meaning go to school). In addition to the above symptoms he also suffers from major anxiety over anything new. More than most. He has a very hard time with seperation from either my husband or myself. Which is probably the reason things seem to have flared up recently, he just started back to school a couple of weeks ago. I can count the number of times on one hand that he has actually gone to a friends house. We always have kids to our house but he never wants to go to theirs. Which is okay with me but I think he is missing out on alot. I see other kids really enjoying themselves at each others houses.Anyway, I know that I have written quite a long post here and I appreciate anyone that has read on this far. If anyone has any thoughts on how to deal with these things I would be so thankful. We have two and a half weeks until our appointment and I am just trying to hang in there until then.Thanks again~You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at http://www.egoups.com/group/ . Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at http://www.egoups.com/group/ . Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... .

[Guest guest]

Beth~

I try to remember that this is a terrible thing for him to have to deal with at his young age. I can't even imagine what it must be like for him. And for the most part I deal with it well and he never even knows he is frustrating me. But recently it has been a real stress for both my husband and I. It seems like if we give in then it gets worse and we do it more, but if we don't give in then he gets so frustrated and angry. It's just a no win situation. But he is the most important person here and I want him to get through this with his self-esteem intact and I want him to know that no matter how difficult things get for him that his dad and I are both here for him.

Thanks for your response and your support.

Wayt <rwwayt@...> wrote:

, I've gone through the same things with the socks and the feetitching.Hang in there,I think the itching comes from the anxiety because theseams aren't right.This is so hard I know ,but remember it's hard for himtoo. Love Beth in In. Intro.>> Well, here goes. My name is and I have a five year old son who> I believe may have OCD and Anxiety Disorder. Although we have our> first appointment with a well respected Child and Adolescent> Psychologist in two weeks I have come here for support and education> in the meantime.>> Our story actually starts out when our son was three (although we> didn't make anything of it at the time, just thought it was normal> kid stuff). The first thing I can think of that could be OCD related> was his constant checking to be sure his door was closed. He would> close his door and then go back 10-20 times just to be sure it was> closed and jiggle the door to be sure it wouldn't open. If he came> home from pre-school and found that I had opened his door he would be> really angry with me. Then that eventually stopped and the next> thing I remember is him having to have his shirt tucked in. And I> don't just mean tucking it in once, he would tuck it in and then> constantly keep tucking just to be sure no part of it had come> untucked. It was amazing the things he could do while tucking his> shirt in. We have had many other things between then and now, but it> seems that his life is finally becoming affected by these things.> Our latest is hoarding, we can't throw anything away if he is around> and just yesterday I found him putting the contents of my trash can> under his bed. He also seems to have something going on with his> feet. It started with his socks. He couldn't stand the seems around> his toes, he would scream and yell at us if we didn't get the> right socks on. I finally went out and found some that work for him> and then it moved from his socks to his feet itching every time we> tried to put on shoes. His favorite sport is roller hockey and we> have had to temporarily take him out because he won't put on his> skates or pads. He says that everything is either to tight, to loose> or his feet itch. I have put things on 10-20 different times trying> to get it right but it never seems to help. Yesterday we were at his> pre-kindergarten class and I couldn't get him to go in because he had> taken off his shoes on the way to school and I couldn't get them back> on. He was angry at me and I was angry at him. The teacher came out> just before I picked up everything and went home. I was on the verge> of tears and so completely frustrated. Thank god I have control over> my own actions because all I wanted to do was pick up that darn shoe> and throw it at him. I don't know how to deal with these things with> him. He yells at me when I am trying to put on his shoes and says> that I just want his feet to hurt and that he doesn't have to do> anything if he doesn't want to (meaning go to school). In addition> to the above symptoms he also suffers from major anxiety over> anything new. More than most. He has a very hard time with> seperation from either my husband or myself. Which is probably the> reason things seem to have flared up recently, he just started back> to school a couple of weeks ago. I can count the number of times on> one hand that he has actually gone to a friends house. We always> have kids to our house but he never wants to go to theirs. Which is> okay with me but I think he is missing out on alot. I see other kids> really enjoying themselves at each others houses.>> Anyway, I know that I have written quite a long post here and I> appreciate anyone that has read on this far. If anyone has any> thoughts on how to deal with these things I would be so thankful. We> have two and a half weeks until our appointment and I am just trying> to hang in there until then.>> Thanks again~> >>> You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . Inthe body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You maysubscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List atparentsofadultswithOCD . You may access thefiles, links, and archives for our list athttp://www.egoups.com/group/ . Subscription issues,problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, atharkins@... .>>>You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at http://www.egoups.com/group/ . Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... .

[Guest guest]

HI Terry:

If you have good refs from other parents that this therapist will be able

to help with OCD make sure you put your name on their waiting list right

now. Two months may seem like ages, but you will be surprised how

fast the time will drag by. It took me over a year to get Steve set

up with the right doc. Good luck, take care, aloha, Kathy (H)

kathyh@...

At 04:39 PM 09/07/2000 -0700, you wrote:

Hi

My son has had a thing for years about his

socks. They have to be the same height and go up to above his

knees. Now it's not an easy task to find socks to go above his

knees. You basically have to get socks that are too big. And

heaven forbid if you mix up shorter socks with longer socks. We

used to have terrible meltdowns about it. I never knew it was

OCD. Now I realize it was. He's on zoloft now and much

better. My husband and I really didn't want to go to meds but there

came a time when all of his " habits " were just affecting his

life and ours too much.

You are lucky to have found a good therapist.

I don't know of anyone specific so I'm still looking. I found one

in our area who just treats OCD but she's booked up for 2 months so I

don't know if I should wait for an opening or find someone

else.

Good luck.

Son 9, diagnosed with OCD in June. Probably has

other things going on also.

[Guest guest]

Stacey--Socks have been a big issue around our house-those seams can wreck a good day anytime---we now do sandles in the summer--docksiders barefoot spring & fall...And polar fleece sox in the winter...no seam problem. The minute he is in the house he is barefoot... Josh has SID.( 11 tomorrow ) .lots of sensory issues..but we work on them with a bog therapy ball to jump on, a fidget cushion to sit on at school..build a trip down the hall to get teachers mail etc. into his day...he is on meds for his OCD.. & they help--but the sensory stuff has really helped also..there is a great book--The Out of Sync child..has lots of tips.....good luck with your appointment--I know just what your days are like..If you want to borrow the book let me know--I run a parent bresource library here in Ct ---.Joy

----- Original Message -----

From: Busch <mailto:stacybusch@...>

Well, here goes. My name is and I have a five year old son who

I believe may have OCD and Anxiety Disorder. Although we have our

first appointment with a well respected Child and Adolescent

Psychologist in two weeks I have come here for support and education

in the meantime.

Our story actually starts out when our son was three (although we

didn't make anything of it at the time, just thought it was normal

kid stuff). The first thing I can think of that could be OCD related

was his constant checking to be sure his door was closed. He would

close his door and then go back 10-20 times just to be sure it was

closed and jiggle the door to be sure it wouldn't open. If he came

home from pre-school and found that I had opened his door he would be

really angry with me. Then that eventually stopped and the next

thing I remember is him having to have his shirt tucked in. And I

don't just mean tucking it in once, he would tuck it in and then

constantly keep tucking just to be sure no part of it had come

untucked. It was amazing the things he could do while tucking his

shirt in. We have had many other things between then and now, but it

seems that his life is finally becoming affected by these things.

Our latest is hoarding, we can't throw anything away if he is around

and just yesterday I found him putting the contents of my trash can

under his bed. He also seems to have something going on with his

feet. It started with his socks. He couldn't stand the seems around

his toes, he would scream and yell at us if we didn't get the

right socks on. I finally went out and found some that work for him

and then it moved from his socks to his feet itching every time we

tried to put on shoes. His favorite sport is roller hockey and we

have had to temporarily take him out because he won't put on his

skates or pads. He says that everything is either to tight, to loose

or his feet itch. I have put things on 10-20 different times trying

to get it right but it never seems to help.

[Guest guest]

Joy~

Thank you, I am going to look into getting the book you recommended tomorrow.

"Joy C. Liebeskind" <sjsjl@...> wrote:

Stacey--Socks have been a big issue around our house-those seams can wreck a good day anytime---we now do sandles in the summer--docksiders barefoot spring & fall...And polar fleece sox in the winter...no seam problem. The minute he is in the house he is barefoot... Josh has SID.( 11 tomorrow ) .lots of sensory issues..but we work on them with a bog therapy ball to jump on, a fidget cushion to sit on at school..build a trip down the hall to get teachers mail etc. into his day...he is on meds for his OCD.. & they help--but the sensory stuff has really helped also..there is a great book--The Out of Sync child..has lots of tips.....good luck with your appointment--I know just what your days are like..If you want to borrow the book let me know--I run a parent bresource library here in Ct ---.Joy

----- Original Message ----- From: Busch <mailto:stacybusch@...> Well, here goes. My name is and I have a five year old son who I believe may have OCD and Anxiety Disorder. Although we have our first appointment with a well respected Child and Adolescent Psychologist in two weeks I have come here for support and education in the meantime.Our story actually starts out when our son was three (although we didn't make anything of it at the time, just thought it was normal kid stuff). The first thing I can think of that could be OCD related was his constant checking to be sure his door was closed. He would close his door and then go back 10-20 times just to be sure it was closed and jiggle the door to be sure it wouldn't open. If he came home from pre-school and found that I had opened his door he would be really angry with me. Then that eventually stopped and the next thing I remember is him having to have his shirt tucked in. And I don't just mean tucking it in once, he would tuck it in and then constantly keep tucking just to be sure no part of it had come untucked. It was amazing the things he could do while tucking his shirt in. We have had many other things between then and now, but it seems that his life is finally becoming affected by these things. Our latest is hoarding, we can't throw anything away if he is around and just yesterday I found him putting the contents of my trash can under his bed. He also seems to have something going on with his feet. It started with his socks. He couldn't stand the seems around his toes, he would scream and yell at us if we didn't get the right socks on. I finally went out and found some that work for him and then it moved from his socks to his feet itching every time we tried to put on shoes. His favorite sport is roller hockey and we have had to temporarily take him out because he won't put on his skates or pads. He says that everything is either to tight, to loose or his feet itch. I have put things on 10-20 different times trying to get it right but it never seems to help. You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at http://www.egoups.com/group/ . Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... .

[Guest guest]

Hi :

I am not a doc, just another OCD mom. The SSRI which are typically used

for OCD medications, have a relatively benign side effect profile. From

what I have learned the side effects disappear after the medications are

discontinued. Having said that, of course many of these meds are

relatively new on the market so very long term side effects are not yet

reported. Taking meds for OCD can be part of uncertainty exposure for OCD,

don't you think?

Perhaps you can discuss this with your child's psychiatrist. Good luck,

take care, aloha, Kathy (H)

At 05:34 PM 09/07/2000 -0700, you wrote:

Are there any long term side effects to the medications that they use?

And how long do they stay on the medication?