Contradiction in breaking cyst wall

[Guest guest]

wrote an article titled Klinghardt – A Unique Healer. The article is a

Recap of Energy Medicine 2006 Annual Meeting. This article is at

betterhealthguy. com > conferences. quoted Dietrich Klinghardt, MD:

 

“There is no effective and proven way to kill cysts. Flagyl and Tinidazole

only anecdotally work but Dr. Klinghardt does not generally find them to

be highly useful. There is some information which may suggest that the

amino acid cysteine may crack cysts better than Flagyl and Tinidazole

but not enough information at this time.”

 

Eve Greenberg also reviewed the 2006 Energy Medicine meeting in an article

titled Treating Lyme Disease, published by EXPLORE. The article is at

neuraltherapy. com. Eve Greenberg quoted , MD: “The cysts are heat,

pressure and oxygen resistant. The cysts are resistant to all antibiotics except

tinadazole, metronidazole and hydroxychloroquinin e.”

 

Neither author noted this contradiction. Which LLMD is correct?

 

Has anyone “gotten well” by taking cysteine AND an  antimicrobial such as niacin

or herbal antimicrobials? Has anyone “gotten well” by taking an antiprotozoa

drug such as flagyl, tinadazole or alinia with or without simultaneously taking

an antibiotic or herbal antimicrobial? Flagyl is a brand name of metronidazole. 

 

“Gotten well” is ambiguous as a patient may be asymptomatic but still

infectious.

Lets define “gotten well” as infection free, evidenced by a Labcorp CD 57 test

or an IgeneX follow up lyme URINE test. This is a different test than IgeneX's

lyme blood test. introduced polling as a new feature. Could we set up a

poll?

 

I cannot find literature by any other LLMD prescribing anything else to break

the cyst wall. Cowden,MD is mum regarding the cyst form.

 

I heard grape seed extract penetrates the cyst wall. However, searching this on

the internet brings nothing up.

 

Dietrich Klingardt, MD prescribed niacin as an antimicrobial. Has anyone had

success taking niacin to eradicate lyme?

[Guest guest]

I took high doses of Niacin for another reason, it was to make the blood

less coagulated. But Niacin is a B vitamin and B vitamins can really

irritate an already sensitive bladder. My cytitis symptoms worsened very

much after I was on Niacin for a while. Lyme and related co infections

can cause interstitial cystitis in lots of people. So I would stop

Niacin at the first sign of bladder irritation.

cathleen

Gaia wrote:

> wrote an article titled Klinghardt – A Unique Healer. The article is a

Recap of Energy Medicine 2006 Annual Meeting. This article is at

betterhealthguy. com > conferences. quoted Dietrich Klinghardt, MD:

>

> “There is no effective and proven way to kill cysts. Flagyl and Tinidazole

> only anecdotally work but Dr. Klinghardt does not generally find them to

> be highly useful. There is some information which may suggest that the

> amino acid cysteine may crack cysts better than Flagyl and Tinidazole

> but not enough information at this time.”

>

> Eve Greenberg also reviewed the 2006 Energy Medicine meeting in an article

titled Treating Lyme Disease, published by EXPLORE. The article is at

neuraltherapy. com. Eve Greenberg quoted , MD: “The cysts are heat,

pressure and oxygen resistant. The cysts are resistant to all antibiotics except

tinadazole, metronidazole and hydroxychloroquinin e.”

>

> Neither author noted this contradiction. Which LLMD is correct?

>

> Has anyone “gotten well” by taking cysteine AND an antimicrobial such as

niacin or herbal antimicrobials? Has anyone “gotten well” by taking an

antiprotozoa drug such as flagyl, tinadazole or alinia with or without

simultaneously taking an antibiotic or herbal antimicrobial? Flagyl is a brand

name of metronidazole.

>

> “Gotten well” is ambiguous as a patient may be asymptomatic but still

infectious.

> Lets define “gotten well” as infection free, evidenced by a Labcorp CD 57 test

or an IgeneX follow up lyme URINE test. This is a different test than IgeneX's

lyme blood test. introduced polling as a new feature. Could we set up a

poll?

>

> I cannot find literature by any other LLMD prescribing anything else to break

the cyst wall. Cowden,MD is mum regarding the cyst form.

>

> I heard grape seed extract penetrates the cyst wall. However, searching this

on the internet brings nothing up.

>

> Dietrich Klingardt, MD prescribed niacin as an antimicrobial. Has anyone had

success taking niacin to eradicate lyme?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi,

I'm curious as to how much GSE you take. Do you find that you have to keep

increasing it rather than staying at the same dose?

Thanks,

Barbara

[ ] Re:Contradiction in breaking cyst wall

It's grapefruit seed extract that is called a cyst-buster. If you google

that, you will find stuff. I take it, and I feel great from it. I don't know

why. I am on my feet, but I am not cured. I take gobs of things, but

grapefruit seed extract noticeably makes me feel well. I have come across

reports

that they will come out of cyst form when you feed them magnesium and other

things they like. I know they like gelatin too.

Heidi N

[Guest guest]

I have not been on it long enough to increase it some more (only a month).

I herxed very little, and I normally herx a lot on almost everything. I take

three 125mg capsules from _www.kirkmanlabs.com_ (http://www.kirkmanlabs.com)

twice a day of Grapefruit Seed Extract. I tried taking Grape Seed Extract

once for about a month, but I just kept feeling weird. Probably die-off, but

that was back when I didn't know much about die-off.

Heidi N

Hi Heidi,

I'm curious as to how much GSE you take. Do you find that you have to keep

increasing it rather than staying at the same dose?

Thanks,

Barbara

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[Guest guest]

I use regular niacin, specifically for the flush. I only take it to get the

flush. So, I imagine having a flush or not is a big difference. Dilating

the blood vessels is suppose to unclog them somewhat and flush pathogens and

toxins out where the immune system can get at them.

Heidi N

" 2-Would non flush niacin work like regular niacin? "

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