acid/alkaline

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Hi ! I recently found a product that was given to me by a healer in Mexico called MICROHYDRIN. He just gave me a capsule and told me to use the powder in it to brush my theeth. I was amazed to see the teeth get whiter and of course once I got here in Austin I tried to buy it, but I found out it is a MLM product distributed by Royal Bodycare Inc. I contacted a distributor I found in the Internet (Julio Costa) and he sent me quite a bit of information about it. One of the benefits of taking this suplement (it is hydrogen) is to balance the pH which is of extreme importance for good health. Please read more about it at www.rbcnow.com or call Julio at his 1-866RBC-5678 and he will send you a video, among other information, which is wonderful. The scientist who discovered this product is Dr. Flanagan; he talks extensively about water and healing waters from all over the world. What miraculous waters have in common is (H-)ions and that is what he was able to reproduce in his lab. Best regards, Fwd: acid/alkaline New discussion... does anyone remember a ways back when broughtup thepH issue? I finally did a test yesterday and it resulted in highacidity(5.5) where the ideal is something like 7.4. anyway I spent therest ofthe day taking in a lot of fruits and vegetables (more than usual)and the pHwent up to normal levels before bed and dropped a little thismorning.Anyway, I'm wondering if Dr. D took into account pH balance at allwith thediet or is it strictly based on lectin/blood type reactions?Since cancer thrives (they say?) in an acid environment I think it'simportant to keep an eye on this... (since we're prone to acid w/ ahighmeat/protein diet)Also, does anyone know if seltzer/club soda is alkaline ? food for thought!! Love, --- End forwarded message ---

[Guest guest]

how did you do the test to determine acidity/alkalinity?

thanks

crystal.

[Guest guest]

So how do I test with the strips once I get them - is it a salive test or a

urine

test?

Also which site has the cheaper products like deflect. etc.

[Guest guest]

,

You have to be very careful about doing any changes on your own to the bodies

pH because you do not want to go to the extremes on either end of the scale-

it is dangerous. There are many conditions associated with either metabolic

alkolosis/acidosis.

The best thing you can do is to find a alternative doctor who is open minded

and work with him/her.

Please don't try to alter these conditions on your own.

Tracey

[Guest guest]

Oh I forgot, something I ran accross. You cannot test the body for metabolic

alkalosis via urine sample. The nephrons in the kidneys have a compensatory

mechanism that will compensate for either condition. I don't know what is

most accurate, maybe saliva testing?

Tracey

[Guest guest]

Besides drinking vinegar or going on the keto diet, how can you make your

body more acidic? Should my son be tested for alkalinity before I try to

force him to be more acidic or should I just assume he's alkaline since he

has epilepsy? How would I test for alkalinity?

>From: Traceygrubbs@...

>Subject: Re: [ ] A bizzarre theory

>Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:38:41 EDT

>

>There is definitely a correlation. From my understanding the keto diet also

>makes the body more acidic. So there is something here, just not smart

>enough

>to figure it out.

>Tracey

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Tracey, when my daughter had her second grand mal, they did a blood test

and the pH came back as 8.00!

Apparently, the body needs to be extremely finetuned where the pH is

concerned or it will not absorb some minerals, for example iodine needs

a very accurate pH before it will be absorbed by the body. So if it is

very alkaline (often thanks to gluten) the body can become depleted of

minerals it needs, and the lack of certain minerals or an imbalance can

lead to seizures.

On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 08:32 , Traceygrubbs@... wrote:

> Oh I forgot, something I ran accross. You cannot test the body for

> metabolic

> alkalosis via urine sample. The nephrons in the kidneys have a

> compensatory

> mechanism that will  compensate for either condition. I don't know what

> is

> most accurate, maybe saliva testing?

> Tracey

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

some relatively safe, babysteps to take regarding improving the body's

pH are: gut out gluten; dairy (makes the body alkaline). And simply

just by drinking a lot of water the body's pH will move towards the

neutral 7.0. Ensure that he gets balanced electrolytes: maybe you could

give tissue salts, especially Mg. Provide adequate vitamin C, which is

ascorbic acid. (I give my daughter 2-3g of Vitamin C through the day.

Sometimes she asks for more. I don't mind because it helps detox the

liver too.)

On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 07:47 , McLauchlan wrote:

> Besides drinking vinegar or going on the keto diet, how can you make

> your

> body more acidic?  Should my son be tested for alkalinity before I try

> to

> force him to be more acidic or should I just assume he's alkaline since

> he

> has epilepsy?  How would I test for alkalinity?

>

>

>

> >From: Traceygrubbs@...

> >Subject: Re: [ ] A bizzarre theory

> >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:38:41 EDT

> >

> >There is definitely a correlation. From my understanding the keto diet

> also

> >makes the body more acidic. So there is something here, just not smart

> >enough

> >to figure it out.

> >Tracey

>

>

>

>

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I got posted a list from someone/somewhere (!!) on foods that induce an

alkaline/acidic state. From memory, it is opposite (?) to what you might think,

eg, apples, which you would think would make the body acidic, are alkaline

inducing etc....

Think I'm right on this, will dig again to try and find the website,

Hill in NZ

Re: [ ] A bizzarre theory

> >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:38:41 EDT

> >

> >There is definitely a correlation. From my understanding the keto diet

> also

> >makes the body more acidic. So there is something here, just not smart

> >enough

> >to figure it out.

> >Tracey

>

>

>

>

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Penny,

I have been reading "The PH Miracle" It follows a belief that acid condition is a cause of candida along with other ailments. That we are meant to be alkaline. I always thought that proteins were digested with acid and starches with alkaline..but I could be way off. That is what I thought was the theory behind not combining protein and starch because the differing digestive process neutralized each other and therefore the food was not digested but instead putrified in our system (making even more acid)

Now I know everyone has their theory so I am not implying this is accurate, but I am trying it now. Eating mostly raw veggies and never putting starch and protein together, though I eat very little starch to begin with. Since I have changed my diet I have had my rectal itching almost go away...it is only occasional now and not where it wakes me up or drives me to insanity...I also have noticed the last few weeks I have slept through the night.

I also am taking inulin and whey which I got from Duncan. I mix it in a bowl or organic whole milk yogurt. Not sure that is bad or good but have not had side effects from it. I do still have gas and not sure if it is still from the inulin or the new diet with loads of live food.

Look forward to reading other thoughts on this.

gigiPenny <penelopea@...> wrote:

HiCan someone explain to me the dynamics of the acid/alkaline chemistry in thebody. I'm having a hard time getting my head around it.I read somewhere that the stomach should be acid and when we get heartburnwe should swallow some vinegar, not antacids. And that cider vinegar isvery good for you. And yet my ND has given me some Alka Aid tablets (sodiumbicarbonate and potassium bicarb.) to take in times of a health "crisis"(yesterday and today). And I have to say that I think they help. What'sthat all about, can anyone tell me?

[Guest guest]

Gigi. Tossing a couple of thoughts back at you.

I too am taking inulin and whey from Duncan. If you look on the fine print of the whey, you'll see that it does not recommend you mix with milk. So, I don't know how that relates to yogurt, but I just mix mine with water and flax and whip it with one of those mini frothers. (I've found that the more air bubbles I can get into something "yucky", the easier it is to down).

Also, if you haven't been taking the inulin and whey for long, the gas may be from your system getting used to it. I had to work my way up to two scoops.

Glad some of your symptoms are being eased Gigi.

cheers - p

Re: acid/alkaline

Penny,

I also am taking inulin and whey which I got from Duncan. I mix it in a bowl or organic whole milk yogurt. Not sure that is bad or good but have not had side effects from it. I do still have gas and not sure if it is still from the inulin or the new diet with loads of live food.

Look forward to reading other thoughts on this.

gigi

[Guest guest]

Penny, thanks for your advice on handling stress. You made me smile

on my birthday. You sound like you've raised a wonderful young man.

This is an interesting question that you raise, one that I have just

recently figured out (in part, anyway). The stomach needs to be

acidic to digest protein, so try to avoid taking sodium bicarbonate

when you are digesting, especially protein foods. The sodium

bicarbonate can be very helpful, however, when you have gas stuck in

your intestines or have another health crisis, like an allergic

reaction. It relieves that abdominal pain and allows the gas out.

And as Gigi said, most of us are too acidic overall anyway. At

times, it becomes a judgment call whether/when to take it. Good

health to you!

> Hi

>

> Can someone explain to me the dynamics of the acid/alkaline

chemistry in the

> body. I'm having a hard time getting my head around it.

>

> I read somewhere that the stomach should be acid and when we get

heartburn

> we should swallow some vinegar, not antacids. And that cider

vinegar is

> very good for you. And yet my ND has given me some Alka Aid

tablets (sodium

> bicarbonate and potassium bicarb.) to take in times of a

health " crisis "

> (yesterday and today). And I have to say that I think they

help. What's

> that all about, can anyone tell me?

[Guest guest]

Penny,

I will try it without the yogurt. In fact I have thought of cutting milk out entirely but havent yet. I still have it in my one cup of coffee I am hanging on to. It is a reduction from drinking it much of the day. That alone might be helping as well. I have not gotten to the 2 scoops of whey yet because I get so much gas. I have tried just whey and just inulin and both seem to give me a lot of gas. Again, my diet has changed as well. It just seems I get it an hour or so after I take it. Since I work with the public I just do it when I get home...hence I havent worked up to the recommended doses. Hoping the reaction will fade. I did notice after a coffee enema it is gone. I think I need to do that more often as well.

Thanks for your thoughts on it.

Have a magical weekend.

gigiPenny <penelopea@...> wrote:

Gigi. Tossing a couple of thoughts back at you.

I too am taking inulin and whey from Duncan. If you look on the fine print of the whey, you'll see that it does not recommend you mix with milk. So, I don't know how that relates to yogurt, but I just mix mine with water and flax and whip it with one of those mini frothers. (I've found that the more air bubbles I can get into something "yucky", the easier it is to down).

Also, if you haven't been taking the inulin and whey for long, the gas may be from your system getting used to it. I had to work my way up to two scoops.

Glad some of your symptoms are being eased Gigi.

cheers - p

Re: acid/alkaline

Penny,

I also am taking inulin and whey which I got from Duncan. I mix it in a bowl or organic whole milk yogurt. Not sure that is bad or good but have not had side effects from it. I do still have gas and not sure if it is still from the inulin or the new diet with loads of live food.

Look forward to reading other thoughts on this.

gigi

[Guest guest]

Gigi, are you eating at least 1T flax seeds daily? They are

marvelous for cleaning out your small intestine and restoring the

mucus you need in there (to prevent leaky gut). They make you more

regular and less gassy (although if you take a lot at once, you may

be quite gassy as they clean you out). Best,

> Gigi. Tossing a couple of thoughts back at you.

>

> I too am taking inulin and whey from Duncan. If you look on the

fine print of the whey, you'll see that it does not recommend you

mix with milk. So, I don't know how that relates to yogurt, but I

just mix mine with water and flax and whip it with one of those mini

frothers. (I've found that the more air bubbles I can get into

something " yucky " , the easier it is to down).

>

> Also, if you haven't been taking the inulin and whey for long, the

gas may be from your system getting used to it. I had to work my

way up to two scoops.

> Glad some of your symptoms are being eased Gigi.

>

>

> cheers - p

> Re: acid/alkaline

>

>

> Penny,

>

>

> I also am taking inulin and whey which I got from Duncan. I mix it

in a bowl or organic whole milk yogurt. Not sure that is bad or good

but have not had side effects from it. I do still have gas and not

sure if it is still from the inulin or the new diet with loads of

live food.

>

> Look forward to reading other thoughts on this.

> gigi

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I second that on the flax. Wonderful stuff. My hubby suffered from

constipation for years and was always using " chemicals " . I found out about

flax and his troubles are over.

Flax seed contains lignins which are great for detoxification. So, it would

follow that the more BM's, the swifter the toxin removal. I worked up

slowly to 2T a day and have 2 BMs a day. It can only help (plus you're

getting some Omega 3's)

(Don't you sometimes find yourself typing these posts and can't believe what

you're discussing? What a wonderful place this is - we cover ALL the bases.

LOL)

Re: acid/alkaline

Gigi, are you eating at least 1T flax seeds daily? They are

marvelous for cleaning out your small intestine and restoring the

mucus you need in there (to prevent leaky gut). They make you more

regular and less gassy (although if you take a lot at once, you may

be quite gassy as they clean you out). Best,

[Guest guest]

, a belated Happy Birthday. You're a Pisces!! (So is my son - so

of course I have a soft spot for the wonderful dreamers of the world!)

Thank you so much for the info.

Have a good weekend - p

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

No I havent been eating flax. I used to eat flax seed in cereal and since I have cut that out I dont anymore. What do you eat it in? I feel like the things to add to my diet are never ending.

Thanks for the suggestion. I dont seem to need fiber. I am hardly constipated. I usually go to the bathroom 2-3 times a day. Sometimes more. I have never leaned to be constipated.

Thanks again,

gigi <kmabbadi@...> wrote:

Gigi, are you eating at least 1T flax seeds daily? They are marvelous for cleaning out your small intestine and restoring the mucus you need in there (to prevent leaky gut). They make you more regular and less gassy (although if you take a lot at once, you may be quite gassy as they clean you out). Best,> Gigi. Tossing a couple of thoughts back at you.> > I too am taking inulin and whey from Duncan. If you look on the fine print of the whey, you'll see that it does not recommend you mix with milk. So, I don't know how that relates to yogurt, but I just mix mine with water and flax and whip it with one of those mini frothers. (I've found that the more air bubbles I can get into something "yucky", the easier it is to down).>

> Also, if you haven't been taking the inulin and whey for long, the gas may be from your system getting used to it. I had to work my way up to two scoops. > Glad some of your symptoms are being eased Gigi.> > > cheers - p> Re: acid/alkaline> > > Penny,> > > I also am taking inulin and whey which I got from Duncan. I mix it in a bowl or organic whole milk yogurt. Not sure that is bad or good but have not had side effects from it. I do still have gas and not sure if it is still from the inulin or the new diet with loads of live food.> > Look forward to reading other thoughts on this.> gigi> > > > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Gigi,

I grind the flax up and make it up like oatmeal. I use 1/2 cup to 1 cup of water, boil for a minute or 2. You can add stevia and cinnamon if you want. I use to make crackers that I added it to before. I stopped making them because I had to eat them all in 1 sitting.

Debbien <nydio@...> wrote:

Hi ,

No I havent been eating flax. I used to eat flax seed in cereal and since I have cut that out I dont anymore. What do you eat it in? I feel like the things to add to my diet are never ending.

Thanks for the suggestion. I dont seem to need fiber. I am hardly constipated. I usually go to the bathroom 2-3 times a day. Sometimes more. I have never leaned to be constipated.

Thanks again,

gigi <kmabbadi@...> wrote:

Gigi, are you eating at least 1T flax seeds daily? They are marvelous for cleaning out your small intestine and restoring the mucus you need in there (to prevent leaky gut). They make you more regular and less gassy (although if you take a lot at once, you may be quite gassy as they clean you out). Best,> Gigi. Tossing a couple of thoughts back at you.> > I too am taking inulin and whey from Duncan. If you look on the fine print of the whey, you'll see that it does not recommend you mix with milk. So, I don't know how that relates to yogurt, but I just mix mine with water and flax and whip it with one of those mini frothers. (I've found that the more air bubbles I can get into something "yucky", the easier it is to down).>

> Also, if you haven't been taking the inulin and whey for long, the gas may be from your system getting used to it. I had to work my way up to two scoops. > Glad some of your symptoms are being eased Gigi.> > > cheers - p> Re: acid/alkaline> > > Penny,> > > I also am taking inulin and whey which I got from Duncan. I mix it in a bowl or organic whole milk yogurt. Not sure that is bad or good but have not had side effects from it. I do still have gas and not sure if it is still from the inulin or the new diet with loads of live food.> > Look forward to reading other thoughts on this.> gigi> > > > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Penny! Glad this group contains wonderful, loving people

like you and Gigi, among others.

> , a belated Happy Birthday. You're a Pisces!! (So is my

son - so

> of course I have a soft spot for the wonderful dreamers of the

world!)

>

> Thank you so much for the info.

>

> Have a good weekend - p

[Guest guest]

Gigi,

I like to put some butter in the toaster oven, melt it, salt it,

spread it over the tray, add about 2T flax seeds, toss them to coat

them with butter, then toast for 3 minutes. You have to stay near

the toaster, and when they start to pop, take them out immediately,

or your toaster oven will be a big mess. They taste like movie

popcorn this way! Best,

> > Gigi. Tossing a couple of thoughts back at you.

> >

> > I too am taking inulin and whey from Duncan. If you look on the

> fine print of the whey, you'll see that it does not recommend you

> mix with milk. So, I don't know how that relates to yogurt, but I

> just mix mine with water and flax and whip it with one of those

mini

> frothers. (I've found that the more air bubbles I can get into

> something " yucky " , the easier it is to down).

> >

> > Also, if you haven't been taking the inulin and whey for long,

the

> gas may be from your system getting used to it. I had to work my

> way up to two scoops.

> > Glad some of your symptoms are being eased Gigi.

> >

> >

> > cheers - p

> > Re: acid/alkaline

> >

> >

> > Penny,

> >

> >

> > I also am taking inulin and whey which I got from Duncan. I mix

it

> in a bowl or organic whole milk yogurt. Not sure that is bad or

good

> but have not had side effects from it. I do still have gas and not

> sure if it is still from the inulin or the new diet with loads of

> live food.

> >

> > Look forward to reading other thoughts on this.

> > gigi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, how do you prepare your flax seeds and where do you purchase

them? Thanks for any information, Sam.

Re: acid/alkaline

Gigi, are you eating at least 1T flax seeds daily? They are

marvelous for cleaning out your small intestine and restoring the

mucus you need in there (to prevent leaky gut). They make you more

regular and less gassy (although if you take a lot at once, you may

be quite gassy as they clean you out). Best,

[Guest guest]

,

That sounds good. Do you think the benefits are lost cooking them? Sounds yummy

gigi <kmabbadi@...> wrote:

Gigi,I like to put some butter in the toaster oven, melt it, salt it, spread it over the tray, add about 2T flax seeds, toss them to coat them with butter, then toast for 3 minutes. You have to stay near the toaster, and when they start to pop, take them out immediately, or your toaster oven will be a big mess. They taste like movie popcorn this way! Best,> > Gigi. Tossing a couple of thoughts back at you.> > > > I too am taking inulin and whey from Duncan. If you look on the > fine print of the whey, you'll see that it does not recommend you > mix with milk. So, I don't know how that relates to yogurt, but I > just

mix mine with water and flax and whip it with one of those mini > frothers. (I've found that the more air bubbles I can get into > something "yucky", the easier it is to down).> > > > Also, if you haven't been taking the inulin and whey for long, the > gas may be from your system getting used to it. I had to work my > way up to two scoops. > > Glad some of your symptoms are being eased Gigi.> > > > > > cheers - p> > Re: acid/alkaline> > > > > > Penny,> > > > > > I also am taking inulin and whey which I got from Duncan. I mix it > in a bowl or organic whole milk yogurt.

Not sure that is bad or good > but have not had side effects from it. I do still have gas and not > sure if it is still from the inulin or the new diet with loads of > live food.> > > > Look forward to reading other thoughts on this.> > gigi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Sam,

I buy them at the health foods store. Here's how I prepare them:

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> , how do you prepare your flax seeds and where do you

purchase

> them? Thanks for any information, Sam.

>

>

> Re: acid/alkaline

>

>

> Gigi, are you eating at least 1T flax seeds daily? They are

> marvelous for cleaning out your small intestine and restoring the

> mucus you need in there (to prevent leaky gut). They make you more

> regular and less gassy (although if you take a lot at once, you may

> be quite gassy as they clean you out). Best,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know how the acidic content of all these fermented foods fits into

the information we read about our bodies being too acidic and that's why there

is so much cancer and other disease? Many 'experts' are saying we should

alkalize our systems. Are we defeating that purpose with fermented foods, or is

there something else that happens in the fermentation process which counteracts

the acidic content?

Carol

[Guest guest]

Very good question, Carol. First, I have read that cancer is unheard of

in people whose intestinal microflora are balanced (I think WAPF Dr. Tom

Cowan said this). Fermented foods will certainly help in this respect.

And isn't cancer often the focus of the acid overload worries?

As far as acid balance goes, here's what Cousens, MD, says about

that concerning kefir (note: Dr. Cousens is a vegan raw foodist who

bases much of his work on Ayurvedic thought):

" The kefir grains produce right-rotating (L+) lactic acid, which is an

important constituent of the human body. It is particularly important

in the prevention of cancer and has been used experimentally with

success in the treatment of cancer. In addition, right-rotating lactic

acid may help maintain healthy functioning of the heart. According to

some researchers, the cells of the heart muscle obtain their energy

primarily from right-rotating lactic acid.

" Although many people are concerned about acidity, my experience is that

many people are actually too alkaline. Acidity from healthy lactic acid

helps bring their pH back to the normal range needed for optimal

health. The acidity of kefir is as low as a pH of 3, consisting of

..85-1.5% lactic acid. The normal healthy human pH for optimal brain

function as discussed earlier is 7.46. Many people I have tested have a

pH of 7.5-7.65, and the kefir helps to bring the pH back into the normal

range. "

- Rainbow Green Live-Food Cuisine, by Cousens, M.D. p. 394

I guess the next question is are fermented veggies producing

right-rotating LA?

Regards,

Deanna

Carol wrote:

> Does anyone know how the acidic content of all these fermented foods

> fits into the information we read about our bodies being too acidic

> and that's why there is so much cancer and other disease? Many

> 'experts' are saying we should alkalize our systems. Are we defeating

> that purpose with fermented foods, or is there something else that

> happens in the fermentation process which counteracts the acidic content?

> Carol

>

>

>