Mangosteen

August 10, 2004

My advice....

You could try it....but my own personal experience with the juice produced NO

positive results....I also had others try it for other health challenges, and

they too were unsatisfied with this EXPENSIVE and over HYPED product.

You might get better results trying a product called Total Immune Booster.

www.totalimmunebooster.com/bodypro

Hope that helps:)

Sn9845@... wrote:

I have heard there is a link between this fruit ( " mangosteen " ) and candida.

Can anyone advise if this is a good investment?

Mariko

August 10, 2004

> My advice....

> You could try it....but my own personal experience with the juice

> produced NO positive results....I also had others try it for other

> health challenges, and they too were unsatisfied with this EXPENSIVE

> and over HYPED product.

It may be a dosage issue. If a person is satisfied that the science

seems promising, the next step would be to get the best value and

potency for the dollar. New Vision International's Essentials Plus

has more than 9 times the xanthones, higher antioxidant power, aloe,

and vitamins and minerals completly absent from Xango, if that's the

one you were considering.

Here's a comparison:

http://www.newvision.com/evplusmangosteen.asp

regards,

Duncan Crow

November 9, 2004

Of course *I* know that (-: --but she is always looking for a quick cure.

Thanks, .

Gretchen

Naked Juice?

* A while back I asked for advice on Odwalla juice. Now I

would

like to hear what people think of Naked juice. I like Naked because,

unlike Odwalla, they tend not to use orange juice so much. Instead

they

use an apple and pear combination. They have some really great

ingredients and a large variety again only employing citrus juices for

a

couple of drinks. So what do you think?

O (+ sec)

March 15, 2005

Charlie:

My mother sells (network marketing) a juice product called Xango that

contains the mangosteen. They have some doctor as their " expert "

traveling the country lecturing to their distributors and hailing the

curative powers of the product, which I understand is selling quite

well. We've gone from Noni juice to Limu, to Xango, and now the latest

panacea is the acai (Ah-sigh-ee) berry (found in the Amazon), reported

to be one of most whole foods on the planet, and several companies are

hawking magic liquids containing it, such as MonaVie, a Mormon company

out of Salt Lake City. A retired major league umpire friend of mine

convinced me to order some, saying he has been cured of just about

everything that was bothering him (arthritis, etc.) after taking it.

I'll let you know my opinion after I've been on it for awhile. Of

course, as you probably know, these products work a whole lot better if

you're selling them.

Lyndon McGill, D.C.

Salem, Oregon

Dr. Charlie Caughlin DC wrote:

>Has anyone had personal experience with " Mangosteen Juice " ??? Hype... just

>anohter fad or legit????

>

>DR CHARLIE CAUGHLIN DC. CAC

>155 NW 1ST AVE

>JOHN DAY, OR 97845

>OFF-541-575-1063

>FAX-541-575-5554

>HM-541-575-1103

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>

March 16, 2005

We looked into Xango but couldn't get an assay. In our company, no assay,

no recommendation. Sunny ;'-))

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

56 Oakway Center

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541-683-5600

>From: Lyndon McGill <twogems@...>

>

>Subject: Re: Mangosteen

>Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:49:25 -0800

>

>Charlie:

>

>My mother sells (network marketing) a juice product called Xango that

>contains the mangosteen. They have some doctor as their " expert "

>traveling the country lecturing to their distributors and hailing the

>curative powers of the product, which I understand is selling quite

>well. We've gone from Noni juice to Limu, to Xango, and now the latest

>panacea is the acai (Ah-sigh-ee) berry (found in the Amazon), reported

>to be one of most whole foods on the planet, and several companies are

>hawking magic liquids containing it, such as MonaVie, a Mormon company

>out of Salt Lake City. A retired major league umpire friend of mine

>convinced me to order some, saying he has been cured of just about

>everything that was bothering him (arthritis, etc.) after taking it.

>I'll let you know my opinion after I've been on it for awhile. Of

>course, as you probably know, these products work a whole lot better if

>you're selling them.

>

>Lyndon McGill, D.C.

>Salem, Oregon

>

>Dr. Charlie Caughlin DC wrote:

>

> >Has anyone had personal experience with " Mangosteen Juice " ??? Hype...

>just

> >anohter fad or legit????

> >

> >DR CHARLIE CAUGHLIN DC. CAC

> >155 NW 1ST AVE

> >JOHN DAY, OR 97845

> >OFF-541-575-1063

> >FAX-541-575-5554

> >HM-541-575-1103

> >

> >OregonDCs rules:

> >1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to

>foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve

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>However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward,

>or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without

>his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

> >

March 16, 2005

We found that this was concentrated juice...for a very fancy price. A

person could juice the fruit themselves for a whole lot of savings. And

the company would provide no assay ..... hmmmm. Sunny ;'-)

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

56 Oakway Center

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541-683-5600

>From: " Dr. Charlie Caughlin DC " <caughlindrc@...>

>< >

>Subject: Mangosteen

>Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 14:56:55 -0800 (PST)

>

>Has anyone had personal experience with " Mangosteen Juice " ??? Hype... just

>anohter fad or legit????

>

>DR CHARLIE CAUGHLIN DC. CAC

>155 NW 1ST AVE

>JOHN DAY, OR 97845

>OFF-541-575-1063

>FAX-541-575-5554

>HM-541-575-1103

>

>OregonDCs rules:

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>foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve

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>or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

>

November 3, 2005

, Kimi, and all,

Mangosteen started out as a multilevel marketing product, with lots of

people selling it who wanted to make money, but didn't really know anything

about

it or health in general, only concerned with the health of their checking

account ;-).

It has a lot of antioxidants and proanthocyanidins, which also act like

antioxidants. Which is why it works so well for people. If you were to take

the

level of antioxidants by way of other products that you mentioned taking the

mangosteen at, you would feel much better too.

But there are other ways to get this sort of action at a lower price. I

like pomegranate juice (no financial interest in pomegranate trees!) because it

also has a lot of antioxidants, etc. but is easier and less expensive to

purchase. Give it a try. It has also been shown, in an Israeli study, to

reduce

blood pressure by about 20 points if taking a 1/2 cup or so per day.

Best wishes,

beth Buchele RSHom(NA) CCH*

Professional Homeopath

Offices in St. Louis Park, MN and Menomonie, WI

_www.healthnaturally.biz_ (http://www.healthnaturally.biz/)

*Registered with The Society of Homeopaths, North America

Certified in Classical Homeopathy

In a message dated 11/2/2005 9:23:43 AM Central Standard Time,

kwolffden@... writes:

I just heard of the stuff last week from a gal who joined my fibromyalgia

swimming exercise class. She said she started it last spring and it has made

her flares stop and she feels much better.

It does sound like good stuff but I think it is quite costly. She told me to

start out they say to do at least 7 days of drinking a whole bottle (I think

it was a qt size). The cost of the bottle is nearly $25.00! YIKES! Too steep

for my budget. Then you should drink at least one bottle a week but two is

better.

I think I will spend my money on real milk, pasture raised meats, organic

fruits and veggies, CLO, coconut oil, Umka and sprouted bread. Plus make sure I

feed my chickens right so they lay good healthy eggs.

Kimi

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Check out Amber's site: www.Jremedies.com

" I do not ask that Thou should give me some high or noble task. Give me

little hands to fold in mine. Give me little children to point Thy way, over

the strange, sweet path that leads to You. Give me little voices to teach to

pray. Give me shining eyes Thy face to see. The only crown I ask to wear is

this, that I may teach my children. I do not ask that I may stand among the

wise, the worthy, or the great; I only ask that softly, hand in hand my

children and I may enter at the gate. "

-Anonymous

mangosteen

Hello all,

I have heard a lot of chatter lately about Xango, juice from the

mangosteen plant grown in SE Asia. I trust you all and am wondering

if it is as good as it sounds. Do any of you have personal experience

with it or know others who have tried it? What, if any, impact did it

have on their health? Thanks for sharing your opinions and stories.

Pagitt

naturalhealthcoach@...

November 3, 2005

This made me smile. The last time I went to the doctor (running injury) my

blood pressure was 82 over 62. If I lost 20 points I'd be dead, now 20

pounds would be perfect.

Ann Marie

>

> t has also been shown, in an Israeli study, to reduce

> blood pressure by about 20 points if taking a 1/2 cup or so per day.

April 3, 2006

Mangosteen is rich in anthocyanidins - but expensive.

I have a feeling it should help once you have raised Glutathione levels.

Ive added some juices into my diet rich in anthocyanidins - cranberry

juice, blueberry juice, red/ purple grape juice.

Regards

CS

November 8, 2006

Mangosteen, Is that something like VIBE, advertised through Eniva? of the liquid supplements.. Sheena fruitforlife2004 <fruitforlife2004@...> wrote: I started drinking mangosteen 3 months into the Interferon. It literally took away all of the side effects. I was and still am drinking 6oz per day. I really think the key is to drink as much water as possible during your treatment. I have continued to drink 6oz per day over

the past 2 years. My 3mo, 6mo blood panels show no trace of viral load also my enzymes are back to normal. My 1yr and 2yr blood panels show NO TRACE even though I still show positive for Hep C. I believe that the mangosteen has made the difference. I also believe you have to choose a mangosteen beverage that is a whole fruit puree so that the Xanthone rich pericarp is in the beverage.I will add that I had a friend with HepC and he did not want to take the mangosteen. Three months after he finished the Interferon he viral load was back to 1million +. I believe the mangosteen made the difference. Please get in touch for more info.

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December 26, 2006

I am a Xango distributor (mostly user) here in Hong Kong. Since my health is so

good I didn't really find any improvement except that even one small mouthful

before bed increased my energy level/alertness so much that I couldn't sleep. I

am also a distributor of Tahitian Noni and been using it since 98. Not totally

regularly., but back in 98-2000 it was a major player along with another

protocol that did wonders at minimizing floaters in my eyes and also

significantly improved my aging focusing ability. Now I mostly take Xango

(Small mouthful) in the morning to wash down supplements and Noni in the

evening. Also have found that a drop or 2 of VCO has worked wonders at

eliminating my frequent situation of having my eyelids stuck to the eyeball in

the mornings. Had tried CS, which helped somewhat but the VCO has been 100% now

for 2 weeks.

The mangosteen fruit is delicious but a bit on the expensive side and is just

starting to come into season here now. The pericap (skin) is extremely bitter

and makes up almost half the fruit. It is where most of the therapeutic

constituents are. The whole fruit is blended and mixed with a small amount of 9

other nutritious/therapeutic fruit juices. I am going to experiment this year

with drying and powdering the pericap and try it in my smoothies. I love the

taste of both Xango and Noni.

If anyone has any questions about either I will try to answer them.

Cheers, Doug

Mangosteen

Do any of you drink mangosteen juice? It's like $30 a bottle You only drink a

few ounces a day but it's supposed to help a lot of ailments. I had a lady try

and sell it to me once it wasn't grape juice by any means meaning not real sweet

but it was ok. I never really felt or saw any help with it, and as soon as i

turned it down she lost contact with me. I just read a lot of stuff about it

though and wondered if any of you use it? The main thing i see in Xango juice,

but that isn't pure Mangosteen. I would like to try pure fruit.

Stuck

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December 26, 2006

Ralph Moss calls Mangosteen expensive fruit juice, and I tend to

agree. Fruit juice taken regularly does tend to help many

ailments because of the antioxidant content.

Mangosteen networkers, particularly Xango networkers, tend to

associate the product with a test tube study that showed cancer

reduction, which as Dr. Moss points out doesn't translate to real

life, in-vivo work.

There are Mangosteen juices that have 11 times the manostins that

Xango has in any case, for the same price.

The short answer it that's it's another fad antioxidant-rich

food, and you're better off with undenatured whey, which contains

NECESSARY antioxidant components and HAS been shown to reduce

cancer in humans in in-vivo studies. The data is on this page:

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html

Duncan

On 26 Dec 2006 at 8:43, Coconut Oil

wrote:

>

> Posted by: " Stuck " Sstuck@... whiteroses56

> Date: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:28 pm ((PST))

>

> Do any of you drink mangosteen juice? It's like $30 a bottle You only

> drink a few ounces a day but it's supposed to help a lot of ailments.

> I had a lady try and sell it to me once it wasn't grape juice by any

> means meaning not real sweet but it was ok. I never really felt or saw

> any help with it, and as soon as i turned it down she lost contact

> with me. I just read a lot of stuff about it though and wondered if

> any of you use it? The main thing i see in Xango juice, but that isn't

> pure Mangosteen. I would like to try pure fruit. Stuck

>

December 27, 2006

Sally: The difference between selling a fad product and a basic

one should be obvious. My approach doesn't use fad items; what I

do is ensure the basics are met.

While Mangosteen juice is no doubt good for you but you can do

without it and use less expensive juice, glutathione precursors

are essential and without them you have illness, degeneration,

and infection. This has been well-studied and is well supported;

entering only the word glutathione in PubMed nets almost 74,000

different documents. Big difference. I recommend whey because

when people are ill they need a lot of glutathione precursors,

and undenatured whey is the best source.

Yes, you can get glutathione precursors from RAW vegetables and

meat, but noting that ALL people of 100 years of age have higher

glutathione levels than average, and most people don't live that

long, you're looking at glutathione increase as a basic health-

and life-extender that most people are deficient in.

Take your immune response alone; glutathione is essential and

it's been proposed to be a crucial immunomodulator. If you're

well enough you can live out a normal life expectancy without

using concentrated glutathione precursors, but with a good

antioxidant regime that includes glutathione precursors there's

no reason to expect people not to live to 100-120; it's your

call, and it's backed by a good degree of data.

SomaLife gHP is similar in that it addresses another of the

basics; when your HGH release starts to fall you start to wither

and die, showing age-related degeneration due to lack of growth

and repair. SomaLife gHP or larger amounts of the same kind of

thing, specific amino acid secretagogues you can mix yourself if

you have the ability, is the only way other than injecting HGH

derived from genetically-spliced E. coli bacteria to increase

growth hormone and thus maintain youthful repair and vigor when

you should be degenerating.

No, Sally, you shouldn't believe me. In my opinion people should

always take the trouble to verify the facts for themselves; it's

actually their responsibility if they are to make an informed

choice rather than follow some shill for Mangosteen for example,

who says Mangosteen can reverse cancer, based on a single test

tube study that does not apply to real life. (Once you have your

cancer in a test tube you could just as well cook it in the

microwave and drink the Mangosteen juice

Other things we discuss, such as omega-3 fatty acids, are also

essential, permanently. I think people should be looking to

optimal health as a life extender and doing the basics rather

than pursuing fads, that's all. Fads are usually expensive and

usually do not provide the basics anyway.

Duncan Crow

On 27 Dec 2006 at 8:44, Coconut Oil

wrote:

> [lists]

> Posted by: " Sally " sally.hoffman@... sallyhffmn

> Date: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:34 am ((PST))

>

> > > Stuck, > Beware of " infomation " coming from people selling

> a particular product > You mean like Duncan? Every opportunity he is

> promoting SomaLife or whey. Why should we believe him over others?

> Can't you get Glutathione from eating lots of green veg? Do we really

> need to buy whey? Yet another product we would have to buy on a

> regular basis because apparently we can't do without it!

>

December 27, 2006

>Duncan

It was not me that mentioned Mangosteen

I had never heard of it before Stuck mentioned it.

And nothing is obvious.

> Sally: The difference between selling a fad product and a basic

> one should be obvious. My approach doesn't use fad items; what I

> do is ensure the basics are met.

>

> While Mangosteen juice is no doubt good for you but you can do

> without it and use less expensive juice,

March 9, 2007

This is one of a number of so-claimed " superfruits " that are out there

on the market. Others include goji, acai, and noni. Personally, I think

that ALL of them are good as far as they go -- and some of them have

been shown to have anticancer properties in vitro -- but I would

skeptcal of the claims of marketeers -- many of which tend to be

unverifiable, or can be attributed to placebo effect, OR simply to

actual positive effects of someone starting to do SOMETHING good for

themselves -- and, especially of them being a magic bullet.

Personally, for the same amount of money that a month's supply of the

network marketed products cost, I would (and do) take amrit, a rather

remarkable ayurvedic fruit concentrate (available from mapi.com). ALSO,

as previously mentioned, I eat dried goji berries, available at health

food stores at rather reasonable price, for breakfast.

Hope this helps.

RB

P.S. I've tried a couple of the network marketed products and wasn't

" blown away " .

P.P.S. If interested in " heavy-duty " anticancer supplements, they have a

veritable encyclopedia at <http://cancer-prevention.net/> .

Posted by: " Ray Simons " pascendi@...

pascendi1935 Date: Thu Mar 8, 2007 10:25 pm ((PST))

Dear Group,

A friend intoduced me to a product called mangosteen today. There are

many and varried claims for this product. If there is anyone on this

list who has actual knowledge about this product and would be willing to

share it with me I would sure appreciate it especially any information

about it's effect if any on cancer. Please understand that I am not

trying to sell anything nor do I claim any knowledge about this product.

I am only seeking valid information.

Thanks,

Ray Simons

May 25, 2008

I have not used Mangosteen myself. But I have read on

where someone bought the Mangosteen from some place

like VitaCost or someplace like that and liked it better than the

Xango group. Maybe go to the archives over at the Buhner group. I

am on herbs only, myself.

Jim.

###

>

> Hi .

> Xango IS a multi-level marketing co. I don't care much for them,

but I didn't want to spend more time and $ trying to find another

juice that may not even help me. So,I trusted Rosner's research and

took the plunge. I don't SELL the product, even though I had to sign

up to receive it. But Velma Henken sells it @ 360-384-3067.

> So I don't care if people buy the juice at Xango or not. There

MAY be another co. out there that is reputable, but I haven't come

across it in my web searches. If YOU find a good quality mangosteen

juice that you don't have to buy from a multi-leveling co., please

let me know. I'm just interested in getting healthy, not selling

someone's product.

> Best wishes,

> anne

>

August 9, 2008

Sorry to hear about your troubles-

glad you are feeling better. Can you tell how you divide up the

mangosteen during the day - Do you drink all the 8 oz at once or do

you do something else? And can you elaborate on the other alternative

treatments you are using and what each is for.

> I've tried many alternative treatments and finally built up a

tolerance for oral ABX by shaving small portions off the pill, then

increasing if I could tolerate it. I had intermuscular shots of

Rocefin, but my herx reaction was violent and lasted for weeks.

> So I've tried many different oral ABX over the past 3 years. But

what's helped me the most was a product that I never expected help from.

> I had read (it's been over a decade since I could read)

Rosner's " Top Ten Conventional and Alternative Treatments for Lyme "

and found a chapter on a product called mangosteen juice. I went

directly to the company he said offered the best product, and although

I dislike multi-level companies and the price was steep ($25 a

bottle!), I tried it. After taking 8 oz. of juice for 4 days, the

shooting pains in my arms stopped. A week later, I could lift my arms

above my head and was able to dress myself for the 1st time in a long

time. After 4 months, the swelling in all my joints was gone.

> It turns out that this juice is the most powerful anti-inflammatory

in nature. It helps inflamation anywhere in the body.

> I don't know why ABX wasn't enough to help me out. It seems that

most alternative treatments I've tried have had little effect too. But

it seems that when I use ABX in conjunction with alternative remedies,

I get better results.

> My new LLMD has me on a regimen that uses mostly alternative

treatments to eat away the mucosa that protects Lyme and co-infection

clumps, treatments to restore the lining of my stomach to good health,

and treatments to bind up the toxins and sweep them out of the body

before they can disseminate.

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