Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 I had the same experience with the antihistamines - that horrible grogginess, ugh! I would reconsider the use of low-fat anything though as we need good fats. Zinc is said to lower high cortisol if that is what you have. So you could try taking it at bedtime and see if it helps. Not convinced about this though as I read that the study that recommended it was somewhat flawed. Mo > > > > > Hi Hans, Hi Miriam, > > thank you for your replies.. > > I tried phenergan and I was in a very unpleasant 'altered' state the following day, not nice. The protein before bed was definitely helping a few months ago but not now. I've tried having low GL foods, the vit c ,the omega 3 and low fat protein every day all to help with the cortisol levels. The only thing I can think of is maybe it's a zinc thing. > > I'm still interested to know if anyone has tried the Phosphatidyl serine...... > > Also, my hair is falling out significantly again.Armour uptake not bad and adrenals feel ok. I am out of ideas. > > good energy to you, > > julia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 I did a very low carb diet for a whole year and it didn't sort out the sleep problem. I think the blood sugar control is related to my adrenal and thyroid problems and that it should be fixed when they are. Still a long way to go yet .... Miriam > The protein before bed was definitely helping a few months ago but not now. I've tried having low GL foods, the vit c ,the omega 3 and low fat protein every day all to help with the cortisol levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 For those of you not sleeping...obviously I don't know you're situations, and each of us has different ailments and different chemistry balances. But...I keep reading on here that nobody is sleeping well. I have taken melatonin and benedryl for quite some time and it works well most of the time. One thing I learned is that TOO much is something that will keep you awake. And you need to use it only about 5 straight days and do without for two days or more. Then back on it. Again, it all depends on your own body. My daughter is WIRED on both. I also noticed that if I buy my melatonin anywhere but GNC, there is always some other ingredient in with the melatonin that wires me up. The GNC has timed release Melatonin that works well for me, and sometimes I take 6 mg before bed. AFter about 5 days, I stop it, and only take benedryl, 50 mg. Also, pay attention to your caffiene intake. Not HOW MUCH, but what time! If you are consuming any FORM (chocolate is also caffiene) of it within 6-8 hours of bed time, you may find you don't sleep well. Alcohol will knock you out, but only for 3.5 hours, at which time your brain will wake up and want you to stay awake. WATER consumption is a must. Ensure you are eating lots of juicy veggies and fruits, and drinking the appropriate amounts of water for YOUR body. TOO MUCH IS NOT GOOD, but at least 8 cups per day is perfect, to balance brain chemistry, as your brain is made up of 80% water! Don't dehydrate it with too much caffiene and not enough water. EXERCISE will knock you out at night and KEEP YOU OUT, depending on whether or not you overdo it and make something hurt or not. If you start out slow, you won't feel the bennies right away. But walking 15 minutes in the a.m. and another 15 in the p.m. as a STARTING ROUTINE will help you sleep better and wake more refreshed. Of course, it all depends on your ailments. Some of us cannot walk at all. But, notice how your heart rate increases if your arms go in the air!?? Use a different exercise to increase your heart rate for 15-20 minutes each day, if your legs cannot do it for you. Ask a physical therapist what you can do to increase that heart rate safely. Just don't exercise within a couple of hours before bedtime or you'll stay awake again. Crazy huh? But all these things make a difference! I hope all of you get some good rest. I for one, am having issues with my hip causing excruciating pain about 4 hours into my night...but it's only been since the mattress decided to keep a PERMANENT DIP on my side. So, if I could win the lottery, I could buy a Tempurpedic and get a good nights sleep for once. Check your mattresses....maybe you need to replace yours as well. I remember how in the "prairie" days nobody had tempurpedics and all slept on hay bails. I can't imagine the pain they were all in. LOL! Maybe I need a hay bail. I hope this helps some of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I had a sleep disorder from about age 8. I didn't sleep well, had trouble falling asleep... and trouble with waking up too early w/o being able to go back to sleep. I would often wake up 20 times a night. Since about 3 weeks on LDN, which I started in late July 2009, I have slept better than I have since I was 8. I think I sleep normally now. I have absolutely no trouble falling asleep when I go to bed. I rarely wake up, and if I do, I'm rarely fully awake - I go back to sleep immediately. I also no longer have nightmares and disturbing dreams that interrupt my sleep. I was unable to hold a job or have a normal life. I got up between 11:00 and 1:00 un-rested and exhausted. Of course, part of my overall fatigue/sleep issue had to do with fibro/chronic fatigue, chronic torticollis, chronic/active shingles, unbalanced thyroid (Hashi's), I.C. and several other immune conditions. I get up now between 8:30 and 9:00 most days, and I hold a job that requires me to be up during the week by 10:00 to log on. LDN not only saved my life, it made my life worth living! d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I also sleep better with LDN, but I am not sure about the exact mechanism. Insomnia is one of my first clues that I am going into an MS exacerbation. Since I no longer have MS exacerbations, I no longer have insomnia. Lack of sleep VERY often predates LDN use, which is why people so fear the possibility of losing even more. They are already tired. But we have to work through that to get well enough to get a good healthy sleep. I do take melatonin and recently pleasantly discovered slow release melatonin. But that is normal, once a person ages, melatonin production does reduce and it is not embarrassing to admit it -- it just is a fact. I agree that those who are doing well with LDN do not spend a lot of time coming to the list to continually reassure newbies. They are just living their lives to the fullest. Only those who are having problems come for help. It does skew the perceived balance of success. It looks like everybody is having a problem, but it simply is not true. Francie > I also sleep better than I did before LDN and I am/was a chronic insomniac who used to be dependent on things like ambien to sleep. > > Please keep in mind that " everybody " is not really " everybody " and " nobody " is not really " nobody. " > > For most people who use the product - LDN in this case - and have few if any side effects and are going about their lives - they do NOT post - they may or may not read these emails - after all they are doing fine and living their lives. > > It tends to be the minority of people who have issues - side effects - sleep issues - etc. It just SEEMS like it happens to so many people because for the most part it is the people who have issues (by far the minority of those using LDN) who post looking for help. > > There are many thousands of people using LDN. I would suspect the vast majority of them have few if any side effects. And I would also suspect many of them no longer are on this list or read the emails. It is time consuming. Some of us stay to help others - like I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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