question

[Guest guest]

Well, if you tell that to someone on the transplant list... they would have to

disagree...and so would I.

 

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From: Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum@...>

Subject: Re: Question

spinal problems

Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 1:17 AM

The entire body will return itself to it's optimum level, if given the

opportunity to do so.

Re: Question

LFT's monitor how well your liver is working, the liver can show it's not

working to it's optimal level as well as that it is somewhat or very much

damaged. Not functioning to it's optimal level is not considered damage

until it passes a certain point

,

Considering you don't go past that certain point you are talking about in

the above sentence, does or will the liver correct itself back to that

optimal level?

Bama,

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of

sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

[Guest guest]

You can look it up online...google " normal LFT range " .

From: MysticMaidenxx@... <MysticMaidenxx@...>

Subject: Re: Question

spinal problems

Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 2:38 AM

Does anyone know what the normal range is for LFT's?

Thanks~~Donna

In a message dated 3/10/09 5:11:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tpowell1977 writes:

> Yes, if you are taking something that is tough on the liver and it starts

> to show in your LFT's, you can reverse THAt if you change or stop the med. As

> long as it has not gotten to a severe point. I personally have taken so many

> meds and high doses during a period of time that i thought for sure I was

> doing something to my liver, but my LFT's were fine. It's really only certain

> meds that carry that higher risk.---

>

>

>

>

>

>

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..yep I have taken care of too many old alcoholics with bleeding

varices that are on the transplant list waiting.......dead liver cells do

not come back to life.

Deb RN

From: spinal problems

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Babbitt

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spinal problems

Subject: Re: Question

Well, if you tell that to someone on the transplant list... they would have

to disagree...and so would I.

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From: Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum@...

<mailto:magisterium_magnum%40comcast.net> >

Subject: Re: Question

spinal problems

<mailto:spinal problems%40>

Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 1:17 AM

The entire body will return itself to it's optimum level, if given the

opportunity to do so.

Re: Question

LFT's monitor how well your liver is working, the liver can show it's not

working to it's optimal level as well as that it is somewhat or very much

damaged. Not functioning to it's optimal level is not considered damage

until it passes a certain point

,

Considering you don't go past that certain point you are talking about in

the above sentence, does or will the liver correct itself back to that

optimal level?

Bama,

The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of

sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his. Thurber

[Guest guest]

The magnesium defiency it can cause will cause all types of twitching. It's

even implicated in some studies will tourretes syndrome.

On Mar 25, 2009, at 9:52 AM, " Meredith " <mom2mytwinz@...> wrote:

Can being Hypothyroidism cause involuntary facial monements?

[Guest guest]

it does in my coworker who is untreated and very hyper. try enough quality

magnesium and lugols or Iodoral.

gracia

Can being Hypothyroidism cause involuntary facial monements?

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J have herniated disc at i believe 45 and 6. I do not want surgery, I have had 2

already and in the long run they make things worse. They are just giving me

trigger point injections, for my are as well and so far they are working. They

are to quick to cut. There are other options.

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I do know someone who was able to make his disk better through Therapy..

That does not mean you can do the same but if you are not absolutely sure you

WANT the surgery you better make the decision today..

Tom

In a message dated 4/4/2009 6:06:57 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

dianne12315@... writes:

Hi Everyone,

I have a herniated disk at C6-7 level and scheduled for surgery on

Tuesday 4/7. However, I am not experiencing the intense pain today that

I have felt for the past two months. I do have some pain in my arm and

the weakness and tingling is still happening periodically.

My question is....can a herniated disk just stop hurting and can it heal

itself eventually?

Thank you.

Dianne

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Hi Dianne,

sorry I'm late in responding! Wow, you are having surgery today! In answer to

your question, YES, herinated discs often heal on their own! I am in no way a

health professional but if you really don't want surgery please get more

opinions! I don't know if I'm too late in my response...Best of luck to you

whatever you choose!

 

Hugs,

 

 

From: Dianne <dianne12315@...>

Subject: Question

neck pain

Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 7:04 PM

Hi Everyone,

I have a herniated disk at C6-7 level and scheduled for surgery on

Tuesday 4/7. However, I am not experiencing the intense pain today that

I have felt for the past two months. I do have some pain in my arm and

the weakness and tingling is still happening periodically.

My question is....can a herniated disk just stop hurting and can it heal

itself eventually?

Thank you.

Dianne

[Guest guest]

Hi Dianne,

sorry I'm late in responding! Wow, you are having surgery today! In answer to

your question, YES, herinated discs often heal on their own! I am in no way a

health professional but if you really don't want surgery please get more

opinions! I don't know if I'm too late in my response...Best of luck to you

whatever you choose!

 

Hugs,

 

 

From: Dianne <dianne12315@...>

Subject: Question

neck pain

Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 7:04 PM

Hi Everyone,

I have a herniated disk at C6-7 level and scheduled for surgery on

Tuesday 4/7. However, I am not experiencing the intense pain today that

I have felt for the past two months. I do have some pain in my arm and

the weakness and tingling is still happening periodically.

My question is....can a herniated disk just stop hurting and can it heal

itself eventually?

Thank you.

Dianne

[Guest guest]

Sherry, you have not been battling candida for many years like you thought you

have, because you've been using an extract that does not kill candida very well

until the concentration is impossibly high.

Research illuminates the issue ...(from a PubMed

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ search on candida olive leaf extract):

" Scanning electron microscopic observations of C. albicans, exposed to 40% (w/v)

olive leaf extract, showed invaginated and amorphous cells. Escherichia coli

cells, subjected to a similar treatment but exposed to only 0.6% (w/v) olive

leaf extract showed complete destruction. These findings suggest an

antimicrobial potential for olive leaves. "

I think your symptoms are caused by candida and other gut bacteria that are not

controlled by the olive leaf extract.

Coconut oil in large doses causes many people to have gas; try taking a lipase

capsule to help you digest the oils that are not directly absorbed.

What you should be doing is feeding your probiotics by replacing the inulin that

has been missing from your diet due to modern farming methods, so the probiotics

are in a position to outcompete and kill the candida and pathogens. This method

has been practiced for 5,000 years. Here's more data on the inulin:

http://tinyurl.com/inulins

Duncan

>

> I have candida, and I've found help by using olive leaf extract. I've been on

this for many years and was doing " o.k. " but I still haven't been able to add

many carbs back into my diet.

>

> So recently I tried coconut oil. The more I took it, the more I began to feel

" hunger spells " , burping, gas, burning/heartburn " . So I've discontinued

it....yet my symptoms continue.

>

> Have I " Ruined " myself?

>

> Can anyone explain to me what causes these " hunger spells " ?

>

> I know many people with MCS/environmental illness/candida have these. But what

causes them...and what can be done to get over them.

>

> I know chemicals can set them off...also schedule eating/sleeping

irregularites...

>

> But now I'm having them almost constantly. What's going on?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Sherry

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I introduced a gal to your website. She's in the process of being tested for

Leukemia. She did your questionnaire. Here is her response and question.

Thoughts?

>

> " I did do the questionnaire and it said my score is 238, or 42%. I've been

doing some reading on Candida and although I do have many of the symptoms of it

many others are contradicting. You said there isn't really any type of test they

could do to see if one has Candida, but would a doctor be able to recognize it

internally since it is a fungus? "

>

+++Hi . Did you know that leukemia is misdiagnosed, when what the

person actually has is candida/fungus? See this article about the nurse who was

misdiagnosed with it: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cancer5.php

Also Dr. T. Simoncini, in Italy, says that cancer isn't cancer at all, instead

it is candida/fungus: http://www.cancerisafungus.com/

If you search the internet using " Dr. Tullio Simoncini " you will also get videos

he's made of candida in tumours.

My sister just retired from being a hospice nurse, and she says all cancer

patients have candida, but they don't treat it unless the obvious candida

symptoms are making a person uncomfortable. I've heard of cancer patients being

given antifungal drugs and their cancer goes into remission.

My sister said one man had terrible skin problems, so they applied extra virgin

olive oil all over, and after a 2-3 months his cancer when into remission and he

went off hospice care. She advised him to keep applying the oil, but obviously

he didn't, since over a year later he was back on hospice and eventually died.

Please note that the list of candida symptoms are the kinds that candida causes,

and most people have a few of them, but they don't have to have others even

though they do have candida.

Doctors cannot " see " candida since it is a microorganism too small for the naked

eye to see, and tests cannot be conclusive for candida for reasons explained in

this article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro3.php

All health problems are caused by the same thing that causes candida, and that

is a depressed immune system. That's why my program is just as much an overall

healing program as it is for candida.

If your friend is in an emergency sitation I recommend she first get intravenous

vitamin C treatments done by an Orthomolecular Physician or if she can find a

physician who'll do them (they can get the formula from Orthomolecular clinics),

and then she can do my program. Here's a link to find a clinic:

http://www.orthomolecular.org/

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bee!!

My husband's aunt has also been sitting in the hospital with stage 4 cancer (or

fungus) this past month (after rounds and rounds of antibodics I might add.).

Tumors in her lungs, around her heart and lymph nodes. Gave her daughter Dr.

Simoncelli's site but haven't heard anything from her. Would the vitamin c

treatments work for her?

[ ] Re: Question

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> I introduced a gal to your website. She's in the process of being tested for

Leukemia. She did your questionnaire. Here is her response and question.

Thoughts?

>

> " I did do the questionnaire and it said my score is 238, or 42%. I've been

doing some reading on Candida and although I do have many of the symptoms of it

many others are contradicting. You said there isn't really any type of test they

could do to see if one has Candida, but would a doctor be able to recognize it

internally since it is a fungus? "

>

+++Hi . Did you know that leukemia is misdiagnosed, when what the

person actually has is candida/fungus? See this article about the nurse who was

misdiagnosed with it: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cancer5.php

Also Dr. T. Simoncini, in Italy, says that cancer isn't cancer at all, instead

it is candida/fungus: http://www.cancerisafungus.com/

If you search the internet using " Dr. Tullio Simoncini " you will also get

videos he's made of candida in tumours.

My sister just retired from being a hospice nurse, and she says all cancer

patients have candida, but they don't treat it unless the obvious candida

symptoms are making a person uncomfortable. I've heard of cancer patients being

given antifungal drugs and their cancer goes into remission.

My sister said one man had terrible skin problems, so they applied extra

virgin olive oil all over, and after a 2-3 months his cancer when into remission

and he went off hospice care. She advised him to keep applying the oil, but

obviously he didn't, since over a year later he was back on hospice and

eventually died.

Please note that the list of candida symptoms are the kinds that candida

causes, and most people have a few of them, but they don't have to have others

even though they do have candida.

Doctors cannot " see " candida since it is a microorganism too small for the

naked eye to see, and tests cannot be conclusive for candida for reasons

explained in this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro3.php

All health problems are caused by the same thing that causes candida, and that

is a depressed immune system. That's why my program is just as much an overall

healing program as it is for candida.

If your friend is in an emergency sitation I recommend she first get

intravenous vitamin C treatments done by an Orthomolecular Physician or if she

can find a physician who'll do them (they can get the formula from

Orthomolecular clinics), and then she can do my program. Here's a link to find a

clinic: http://www.orthomolecular.org/

Bee

[Guest guest]

Greetings All.

I am a new member...well to tell the truth, I have been on here for a couple of

weeks,  and have just been too busy to post.

I am a 45 year old widow and I suffer from osteoporosis, osteoarthritis

and fibromyalgia (as well as numerous mental issues).  Last year I fell (as I

do a LOT ) and ended up with 2 compression fractures in my back.  I am in

constant pain, despite pain medication and Lyrica.  Over the past 2.5 years, I

have broken my arm, foot, two ribs, the back fractures and a cuncussion.  These

are all from SEPARATE falls, mind you.

My doctor had more x-rays done of my back and hip and they found 2 " foreign

masses " on my hip.  I have to go for more bloodwork and an MRI to see what the

masses might be.  I am scared about it, but trying to have faith that it won't

be serious.

As I mentioned, I have mental health issues.  I am bi-polar, have panic and

anxiety disorders, and severe depression.  These disorders are heightened by

the physical pain.  I attend a daily partial care program, see a psychiatrist

monthly, and am involved with a group called Collaborative Support Program

(CSP).  I became homeless last year after my mother and her 4th husband kicked

me out of thier house while I was in the hospital recovering from my back

injury!  This hurt a lot.  My dear husband had passed away almost a year to

the day that they kicked me out.  I ended up at the Atlantic City Rescue

Mission and was there for 6 months.  Now I am in a motel that is horrible that

welfare is paying for.  I am on the waiting list for housing with CSP and in

the meantime I am trying to survive on $74 cash per month and $200 in food

stamps.  It is hard, and I try to beg for a couple of dollars to just get ice

for my food every day.  This is NOT how I was raised.  I hate begging for food

and money.  I could walk to the Mission from my hotel and get food from the

Food Bank, but it is about a mile away, and with my physical problems this kills

me.  Not to mention I am on the 3rd floor of my hotel with no elevator! It

takes me forever to walk upstairs.  I have to stop a lot.

Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself.  I hope you all have a blessed

weekend.  (It is going to reach 88 degrees here in NJ tomorrow...I would love

to walk up to the boardwalk.  I am just 2 blocks away.  We shall see how I

feel.)

Blessings,

Lou

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[Guest guest]

>

> Thank you Bee!!

>

> My husband's aunt has also been sitting in the hospital with stage 4 cancer

(or fungus) this past month (after rounds and rounds of antibodics I might

add.). Tumors in her lungs, around her heart and lymph nodes. Gave her

daughter Dr. Simoncelli's site but haven't heard anything from her. Would the

vitamin c treatments work for her?

>

+++Hi . Vitamin C treatments may be worth a try if she has enough

time, however it doesn't look like she does.

I lost a friend to cancer, even though her own doctor administered vitamin C

intravenously, but cancer had damaged her urinary system (kidneys & tubes) so

she wasn't able to handle the vitamin C.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> congrats on the 5k members!

>

> 1)

> My hubby is concerned about giving my toddler 3 eggs everyday. He is afraid of

the cholesterol building up and causing issues later.

>

> What should I tell him?

+++Hi Correy. First, cholesterol is a non-issue when it comes to health and it

does not cause heart disease like doctors claim. Here's the real causes of

heart disease: http://westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/hd.html

+++Here's a great article Cholesterol and Heart Disease - A Phoney Issue:

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/fats_phony.html

+++This is a great article about a man who ate 25 soft boiled and had low

cholesterol: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/eggs1.php

>

> 2) How long can I give her eggs everyday for? indefinitely? Or, should I stop

giving it to her everyday after her 3 month strict Bee diet.

+++You should always give her eggs everyday, and also you and your husband

should have them too. They are nature's most perfect food.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol...

I saw Dr. Hu in the clinic last Friday.

--

>

> Have anybody heard from Dr. Serena Hu? I don't know where she is and what

she's doing?

>

> I tried to call approx. Feb. but no answer. I will call her again this

weekend.

>

> Carol Vaughan

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks!

Carol V.

> >

> > Have anybody heard from Dr. Serena Hu? I don't know where she is and what

she's doing?

> >

> > I tried to call approx. Feb. but no answer. I will call her again

this weekend.

> >

> > Carol Vaughan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Question, at what point does the fungus become detectable as cancer? Is it

mainly when the white blood cell count has skyrocketed?

+++Hi . Dr. Simoncini believes that cancer isn't cancer at all,

instead it is fungus/candida. I don't want to unduly alarm people so I don't

broadcast that fact, but I believe he is correct.

My sister is a hospice nurse and she said all cancer patients have

candida/fungus, and because the person is on the dying list, they don't treat

" what they believe are candida symptoms " unless the symptoms are making the

patient very uncomfortable. She's seen cancer go into remission when a patient

is treated with antifungal drugs (intended to only treat candida).

She had a man she treated on the hospice program who had terrible skin problems.

Because they were causing him so much discomfort he was treated by rubbing extra

virgin olive oil into his skin. After awhile (I don't know how long) he didn't

have cancer any more, so he was sent home. She advised him to keep up the

treatments, but knew he probably wouldn't. About a year later she noticed he

was back on hospice and eventually died.

We know that extra virgin olive oil is antifungal, so go figure.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Like you, I do believe cancer isn't cancer at all but fungus.

Not sure how to state my question... a relative was recently diagnosed with

" leukemia " as his white blood count was 151,000. He's not open to alternative

treatments. I know it's fungus. I have fungus as well but my white blood

count is 3,900 which is just a hair under normal. We both have fungus but at

what point does the medical establishment deem it so severe that it needs to be

treated as so called cancer?

Hopefully I'm phrasing my question right...

[ ] Re: Question

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Question, at what point does the fungus become detectable as cancer? Is it

mainly when the white blood cell count has skyrocketed?

+++Hi . Dr. Simoncini believes that cancer isn't cancer at all,

instead it is fungus/candida. I don't want to unduly alarm people so I don't

broadcast that fact, but I believe he is correct.

My sister is a hospice nurse and she said all cancer patients have

candida/fungus, and because the person is on the dying list, they don't treat

" what they believe are candida symptoms " unless the symptoms are making the

patient very uncomfortable. She's seen cancer go into remission when a patient

is treated with antifungal drugs (intended to only treat candida).

She had a man she treated on the hospice program who had terrible skin

problems. Because they were causing him so much discomfort he was treated by

rubbing extra virgin olive oil into his skin. After awhile (I don't know how

long) he didn't have cancer any more, so he was sent home. She advised him to

keep up the treatments, but knew he probably wouldn't. About a year later she

noticed he was back on hospice and eventually died.

We know that extra virgin olive oil is antifungal, so go figure.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Like you, I do believe cancer isn't cancer at all but fungus.

>

> Not sure how to state my question... a relative was recently diagnosed with

" leukemia " as his white blood count was 151,000. He's not open to alternative

treatments. I know it's fungus. I have fungus as well but my white blood

count is 3,900 which is just a hair under normal. We both have fungus but at

what point does the medical establishment deem it so severe that it needs to be

treated as so called cancer?

+++Hi . Sorry, but I don't know when the medical establishment

determines a person has cancer.

Their tests for cancer have not been proven to be accurate, nor even true.

There is a good reason for the body to produce high numbers of white blood cells

when the person is in such a poor condition. Of course medicos do not treat

" causes, " they treat and suppress symptoms with toxins and poisons.

I understand they determine some cancers by measuring the regeneration of cells.

If the regeneration is higher in that particular area of the body than

predetermined they " should be, " they say the person has cancer. That's about

all I know about it.

Here's the story about a nuse who was misdiagnosed as having leukemia, when she

actually had candida: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cancer5.php

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

I think it's God Forbid.

> > Hi..Just a question for anyone with a neck problem..my niece whos

> 20 was at

> > work yesterday and noticed her arm hurting..well she went to go

> see and it was

> > swollon and blue//she went to the hospital and they didnt take any

> xrays just

> > blood and came back and said she probably has a pinched nerve and

> gave her

> > pain meds and muslce relaxers....

> > Then she went to work today...I told my sis in law that she needs

> to

> > becareful it doesnt get worse and got forgbit she gets a herniated

> disc in her neck..

> > so what do you all think??

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm having my first one on 7/9. I pray it works for me.

>

> > i've asked this before, but i think i need to hear

> > the answer again.

> >

> > this question goes out to all you c-spine herniation

> > folks...

> >

> > i've got a bad disc in my c-spine and god-forsaken

> > pain in my shoulder blades. does

> > anyone else have this? and if so, have any of you

> > have a discectomy for it and had your

> > shoulder blade pain go away? my herniation is small

> > enough to probably be able to get

> > away with a discectomy for a few years.

> >

> > my biggest fear is that i will go though with

> > surgery of some kind and then still be left

> > with this back pain. that would be a nightmare. i

> > can't bear this shoulder blade pain too

> > much longer. i'm getting epidural injections but

> > they aren't the answer.

> >

> > it just seems so backward to wait to do surgery

> > until i've suffered more years and

> > developed nerve damage. how 'bout doing surgery

> > while i'm still kinda well, so i'm strong

> > enough to recover properly, huh?

> >

> > thanks in advance for any replies.

> >

> > -melanie

> >

> >

> >

>

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Weight is weight. Fibroids are weighty and push your organs to places

they shouldn't be.

On Jun 12, 2009, at 9:25 PM, cathy mccarthy wrote:

This is a question I have never thought to ask any doc, but seeing a

new one now, a neurologist. He seems to have a much more " open " mind.

With the weight issue being bantered around right now (and I for one

think enough has been said on THAT subject). I have uterine fibroids

that I did not go the hysterectomy rout, because surgery scares me to

death. I did a UFE (uterine fibroid embolization) where they cut off

the blood supply to the nasty things and they are supposed to die and

shrink away. I had a softball sized thing in my uterous, plus some

others, and they made my uterous enlarged as if I was 3 or 4 months

pregnant. Had it done. I ran out of money and could not afford to see

if it worked or not. I felt alot better, did not have to pee as often.

All my Docs are well aware of my medical history. I am 51 years old

and actually HOPING for menopause, cause my fibroids should go away

then. Anyway, my pain issue has gotten severely worse since I found

out I had the nasty fibroid things, in 2004.

Anyway, my question is, could an enlarged uterous be pressing or

pulling on the nerves of my spine??? I never really thought to ask any

of my Docs that. I have never had a kid or have been pregnant, so do

not know how it makes one feel. Especially, someone with back issues.

I know when I had the UFE, when they inserted the catheter into my

bladder the nurse sad my bladder was right there being pressed down by

my uterous.

I dunno. With this weight issue being talked about. I think I should

ask about that. Never thought to connect the two before....

in NH

[Guest guest]

,

My back pain got significantly worse because of pain I was having with my

uterus. I was having heavy bleeding and lots of pain. I had a small

fibroid although they didn't think that was causing my pain. I had two

doctors that did not believe me well enough that the pain was difficult and

because it impacted my back, my back pain was worse. They just told me to

fix my back. I went to another doctor that had delivered my son many years

ago and she gave me the option to do a hysterectomy. I knew that would be

the only thing that would really help me, so I went for it. The surgery was

VERY easy. She did it laproscopic with one 1.5 in incision one one side and

two .5 inch incisions (one in my belly button). I had some post op pain

from the larger incision and had what we coined " swelly belly " for a bit but

I was up out of bed and interacting with my family on day 1 (it was

outpatient surgery). It really was not difficult at all and the gain was

HUGE! First, no more bleeding, which is amazing! Second, no more uterine

pain and therefore the back pain that was associated with the uterine pain

was gone. I still have the constant pain from my degenerative disc disease

but that is why I am heading into fusion surgery in 8 days. I chose to have

that done endoscopically so I am hoping for smooth sailing as I had with the

hysterectomy. My point is that I would HIGHLY recommend a laproscopic

hysterectomy of any woman with back pain that is aggravated by uterine

issues. The gain from the surgery is sooooo worth it! I did keep my cervix

and ovaries, just had the uterus taken out. If you have any questions, let

me know.

Lynne

heading into fusion surgery on 6/22

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:25 PM, cathy mccarthy

<bbhorsetack@...>wrote:

>

>

> This is a question I have never thought to ask any doc, but seeing a new

> one now, a neurologist. He seems to have a much more " open " mind. With the

> weight issue being bantered around right now (and I for one think enough has

> been said on THAT subject). I have uterine fibroids that I did not go the

> hysterectomy rout, because surgery scares me to death. I did a UFE (uterine

> fibroid embolization) where they cut off the blood supply to the nasty

> things and they are supposed to die and shrink away. I had a softball sized

> thing in my uterous, plus some others, and they made my uterous enlarged as

> if I was 3 or 4 months pregnant. Had it done. I ran out of money and could

> not afford to see if it worked or not. I felt alot better, did not have to

> pee as often.

>

> All my Docs are well aware of my medical history. I am 51 years old and

> actually HOPING for menopause, cause my fibroids should go away then.

> Anyway, my pain issue has gotten severely worse since I found out I had the

> nasty fibroid things, in 2004.

>

> Anyway, my question is, could an enlarged uterous be pressing or pulling on

> the nerves of my spine??? I never really thought to ask any of my Docs that.

> I have never had a kid or have been pregnant, so do not know how it makes

> one feel. Especially, someone with back issues. I know when I had the UFE,

> when they inserted the catheter into my bladder the nurse sad my bladder was

> right there being pressed down by my uterous.

>

> I dunno. With this weight issue being talked about. I think I should ask

> about that. Never thought to connect the two before....

>

> in NH

>

>

[Guest guest]

Alan, have a look at the Merck Manual:

[AntibioticsWhen taken during pregnancy, antibiotics can cause problems. Tetracycline antibiotics cross the placenta and are stored in the fetus' bones and teeth, where they combine with calcium. As a result, bone growth may be slow, the baby's teeth may be permanently yellow, and the tooth enamel may be soft and abnormally susceptible to cavities. The risk of tooth abnormalities is greatest from the middle to the end of pregnancy. Because several safe alternative antibiotics are available, tetracyclines are avoided during pregnancy.Taking antibiotics such as streptomycin or kanamycin during pregnancy may damage the fetus' inner ear, possibly resulting in deafness. Chloramphenicol doesn't harm the fetus but can cause a serious illness in the newborn called gray baby syndrome. Ciprofloxacin should not be taken during pregnancy because it has been shown to cause joint abnormalities in animals. Penicillins appear to be safe.Most sulfonamide antibiotics taken late in pregnancy may cause the newborn to develop jaundice, which can result in brain damage. However, one sulfonamide antibiotic, sulfasalazine, is much less likely to cause this problem.]

and

[VaccinesExcept under special circumstances, vaccines made with a live virus aren't given to women who are or might be pregnant. Rubella vaccine, a live-virus vaccine, can cause infection of both the placenta and the developing fetus. Live-virus vaccines--such as those for measles, mumps, polio, chickenpox, and yellow fever--and other vaccines--such as those for cholera, hepatitis A and B, influenza, plague, rabies, tetanus, diphtheria, and typhoid--are given to a pregnant woman only if she is at substantial risk of becoming infected with one of those microorganisms.]

Here is the full text:

The Merck Manual of Medical Information--Home Edition Section 22. Women's Health Issues Chapter 247 Drug Use During PregnancyMost pregnant women take drugs of some kind. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization estimate that more than 90 percent of pregnant women take prescription or nonprescription (over-the-counter) drugs, social drugs such as tobacco and alcohol, or illicit drugs. Drugs cause 2 to 3 percent of all birth defects; most of the others result from hereditary, environmental, or unknown causes. (see page 1223 in Chapter 254, Birth Defects)Drugs move from the mother to the fetus primarily through the placenta, the same route taken by nutrients for the fetus' growth and development. In the placenta, drugs and nutrients in the mother's blood cross a thin membrane, which separates the mother's blood from the fetus' blood.Federal Food and Drug Administration Categories of Drug Safety During Pregnancy Category Description A Human studies have shown no risk. B Animal studies have shown no risk but no human studies are available, or animal studies have shown risk but human studies have not. C No human or animal studies are available, or animal studies have shown risk but no human studies are available. D Human studies have shown risk, but use may be justified in some cases (life-threatening situation or serious disease for which there is no safer drug). X The drug should never be taken during pregnancy; known human risk outweighs any benefit. Drugs that a woman takes during pregnancy can affect the fetus in several ways:By acting directly on the fetus, causing damage, abnormal development, or death By altering the function of the placenta, usually by constricting blood vessels and reducing the exchange of oxygen and nutrients between the fetus and the mother By causing the muscles of the uterus to contract forcefully, indirectly injuring the fetus by reducing its blood supplyHow a drug affects a fetus depends on the fetus' stage of development and the potency and dose of the drug. Certain drugs taken early in pregnancy--before the 17th day after fertilization--may act in an all-or-nothing fashion, either killing the fetus or not affecting it at all. During this stage, the fetus is highly resistant to birth defects. However, the fetus is particularly vulnerable to birth defects between days 17 and 57 after fertilization, when its organs are developing. Drugs reaching the fetus during this stage may cause a miscarriage, an obvious birth defect, or a permanent but subtle defect noticed later in life, or they may have no noticeable effect. Drugs taken after organ development is complete are unlikely to cause obvious birth defects, but they may alter the growth and function of normally formed organs and tissues.Anticancer DrugsBecause the fetus' tissues are growing quickly, their rapidly multiplying cells are very vulnerable to anticancer drugs. Many such drugs are teratogens, which are drugs that cause such birth defects as stunted growth in the uterus (intrauterine growth retardation), underdevelopment of the lower jaw, cleft palate, abnormal development of the skull bones, spinal defects, ear defects, clubfoot, and mental retardation. Some anticancer drugs cause birth defects in animals but haven't been shown to do so in humans.ThalidomideThis drug is no longer prescribed to pregnant women because it causes major birth defects. The drug was first introduced in 1956 in Europe as a remedy for influenza and as a sedative. In 1962, thalidomide taken by pregnant women when the fetus' organs were developing was found to cause birth defects, including severely underdeveloped arms and legs and defects of the intestine, heart, and blood vessels.Skin TreatmentsIsotretinoin, used to treat severe acne, psoriasis, and other skin disorders, causes major birth defects. Among the most significant are heart defects, small ears, and hydrocephalus--sometimes called water on the brain. The risk of birth defects is about 25 percent. Etretinate, another drug used to treat skin disorders, also causes birth defects in humans. Because this drug is stored in fat beneath the skin and released slowly, it can continue to cause birth defects for 6 months or longer after a woman stops taking it. Therefore, women who use this drug are advised to wait at least 1 year before becoming pregnant.Sex HormonesAndrogenic (masculinizing) hormones, used to treat various blood disorders, and synthetic progestins taken during the first 12 weeks after fertilization may masculinize a female fetus' genitals. The clitoris, a small protrusion analogous to the penis in the male, may be enlarged--a condition that is permanent unless corrected with surgery--and the labia minora, which surround the openings to the vagina and urethra, may be fused together. Oral contraceptives don't contain enough progestin to produce such effects.Diethylstilbestrol (DES), a synthetic estrogen, can cause vaginal cancer in adolescent girls whose mothers took this drug during pregnancy. These girls may later suffer from an abnormal uterine cavity, menstrual problems, a weakened (incompetent) cervix that can cause miscarriages, and an increased risk of having an ectopic pregnancy or having a baby who dies shortly before or after birth. Boys exposed to diethylstilbestrol as fetuses may have penis abnormalities.MeclizineMeclizine, frequently taken for motion sickness, nausea, and vomiting, causes birth defects in animals, but the same effects haven't been seen in humans.Anticonvulsant DrugsTaken during pregnancy by a woman who is epileptic, some anticonvulsant drugs may cause the baby to have a cleft palate and abnormally developed heart, face and skull, hands, or abdominal organs. The baby may also be mentally retarded. Two anticonvulsants are particularly likely to cause birth defects; the risk is about 70 percent with trimethadione and about 1 percent with valproic acid. Carbamazepine, another anticonvulsant, is thought to cause a significant number of minor birth defects. The anticonvulsant phenytoin was previously blamed for a variety of birth defects, but similar defects occurred in babies of epileptic women who didn't take anticonvulsants.Newborns exposed to phenytoin and phenobarbital (a barbiturate as well as an anticonvulsant) before birth may bleed easily because these drugs can cause a deficiency of vitamin K, which is needed for clotting. This side effect can be prevented if a pregnant woman takes vitamin K by mouth every day for a month before delivery or if the newborn is given an injection of vitamin K soon after birth. During pregnancy, women who have epilepsy are given the smallest effective dose of anticonvulsants and are closely monitored.Women who have epilepsy, even if they don't take anticonvulsants during pregnancy, are more likely to have babies with birth defects than women who don't have epilepsy. The risk is greater in those who have frequent, severe convulsions or complications of pregnancy and in those in low socioeconomic groups, who tend to receive inadequate health care.VaccinesExcept under special circumstances, vaccines made with a live virus aren't given to women who are or might be pregnant. Rubella vaccine, a live-virus vaccine, can cause infection of both the placenta and the developing fetus. Live-virus vaccines--such as those for measles, mumps, polio, chickenpox, and yellow fever--and other vaccines--such as those for cholera, hepatitis A and B, influenza, plague, rabies, tetanus, diphtheria, and typhoid--are given to a pregnant woman only if she is at substantial risk of becoming infected with one of those microorganisms.Thyroid DrugsRadioactive iodine given to a pregnant woman to treat an overactive thyroid gland (hyperthyroidism) can cross the placenta and destroy the fetus' thyroid gland or cause severe underactivity of the thyroid gland (hypothyroidism). Propylthiouracil and methimazole, drugs also used to treat an overactive thyroid gland, cross the placenta and can cause the fetus' thyroid gland to become abnormally enlarged; when needed, propylthiouracil is usually used because it's tolerated better by both the woman and fetus.Oral Hypoglycemic DrugsOral hypoglycemic drugs are given to lower blood sugar (glucose) levels in people who have diabetes, but they often fail to control diabetes in pregnant women and may cause newborns to have very low blood glucose levels (hypoglycemia). Therefore, insulin is preferred for treating diabetes in pregnant women.Narcotics and Nonsteroidal Anti-inflammatory DrugsNarcotics and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), such as aspirin, can reach the fetus in significant amounts if taken by a pregnant woman. Babies of women who are narcotic addicts can become addicted before birth and may show withdrawal symptoms 6 hours to 8 days after birth. Taking large doses of aspirin or other NSAIDs during pregnancy may delay the start of labor and may also cause the connection (ductus arteriosus) (see illustration, page 1227) between the aorta (the large artery that carries blood to the body) and the pulmonary artery (the artery that carries blood to the lungs) in the fetus to close before birth. This connection normally closes immediately after birth. Closure before birth forces blood to flow through the lungs, which haven't expanded yet, overloading the fetus' circulatory system.When used late in pregnancy, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs may reduce the amount of amniotic fluid (the liquid surrounding the developing fetus, contained in the amniotic sac)--a potentially dangerous effect. Taking large doses of aspirin may cause bleeding problems in the mother or the newborn. Aspirin or other salicylates may increase bilirubin levels in the fetus' blood, causing jaundice and occasionally brain damage.Antianxiety Drugs and AntidepressantsAntianxiety drugs may cause birth defects when taken during the first 3 months of pregnancy, although this effect hasn't been proven. Most antidepressants appear to be relatively safe when used during pregnancy, but lithium can cause birth defects--mainly of the heart. Barbiturates, such as phenobarbital, taken by a pregnant woman tend to reduce the slight jaundice newborns commonly have.AntibioticsWhen taken during pregnancy, antibiotics can cause problems. Tetracycline antibiotics cross the placenta and are stored in the fetus' bones and teeth, where they combine with calcium. As a result, bone growth may be slow, the baby's teeth may be permanently yellow, and the tooth enamel may be soft and abnormally susceptible to cavities. The risk of tooth abnormalities is greatest from the middle to the end of pregnancy. Because several safe alternative antibiotics are available, tetracyclines are avoided during pregnancy.Taking antibiotics such as streptomycin or kanamycin during pregnancy may damage the fetus' inner ear, possibly resulting in deafness. Chloramphenicol doesn't harm the fetus but can cause a serious illness in the newborn called gray baby syndrome. Ciprofloxacin should not be taken during pregnancy because it has been shown to cause joint abnormalities in animals. Penicillins appear to be safe.Most sulfonamide antibiotics taken late in pregnancy may cause the newborn to develop jaundice, which can result in brain damage. However, one sulfonamide antibiotic, sulfasalazine, is much less likely to cause this problem.Ingrid

This is a good time to pose an important question. These vaccs for my wife were mostly antibiotic shots (penicillin, I think, have to look at the records), but I do NOT know for certain that they contained Thimerosal or anything else in the early 50s. I did do some searching and concluded that they likely did, but how does one know? Does anyone have a clearer pictures of what these antibiotic shots had in them? A lot of them were for ear "infections," but many of the ear inflammations I've seen have clearly been toxin related. Some of my inlaws children had hearing damage as infants, and I personally felt that this was neurological and caused by vaccinations. Anyone?

From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>Subject: Re: Good IDEAno-forced-vaccination Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:00 AM

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