Re: Re: Tinctures-how to take

March 2, 2011

i am not on these right now but i do take tinctures such as teasel and

smilax and a different lyme formula all given to my by my naturopathic llmd

and i take them all with a little juice. have i been doing it wrong by not

using only water for these 2 years?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:51 PM, KP <kmpelley@...> wrote:

>

> Tammy,

>

> My LLMD told me that A-BART is a homeopathic and herbal tincture. For that

> reason, it cannot be taken with anything but water. It is interesting that

> the label does not have the usual homeopathic information on it, but

> apparently, the company has told MD's that they have homeopathic

> ingredients.

>

> One of my fellow lyme support group members was told that it was

> " potentized " . Having had some herbal medicine training, I know there is no

> such thing as a " potentized' herbal tincture. Somehow they get around

> labeling the tincture with the homeopathic ingredients. However, the way my

> LLMD taught me to take the tincture was typical of how you would handle a

> homeopathic medicine. In addition to shaking the bottle, you need to hit it

> on the bottom at least six times. That, I believe, is standard handling for

> liquid homeopathic meds. You also can only take it in water and cannot take

> any food or drink [other than water] 20 minutes before and 20 minutes after

> you take A-BART.

>

> Kathleen

> Eureka CA

>

> Are these homeopathic tinctures?

>

March 2, 2011

Everyone is different ..... some can't be taken with anything.....only some we

could take with water but nothing else....you need to ask who you get it from as

each is different ......

On Tue Mar 1st, 2011 7:23 PM CST le Handy wrote:

>i am not on these right now but i do take tinctures such as teasel and

>smilax and a different lyme formula all given to my by my naturopathic llmd

>and i take them all with a little juice. have i been doing it wrong by not

>using only water for these 2 years?

>

>On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:51 PM, KP <kmpelley@...> wrote:

>

>>

>> Tammy,

>>

>> My LLMD told me that A-BART is a homeopathic and herbal tincture. For that

>> reason, it cannot be taken with anything but water. It is interesting that

>> the label does not have the usual homeopathic information on it, but

>> apparently, the company has told MD's that they have homeopathic

>> ingredients.

>>

>> One of my fellow lyme support group members was told that it was

>> " potentized " . Having had some herbal medicine training, I know there is no

>> such thing as a " potentized' herbal tincture. Somehow they get around

>> labeling the tincture with the homeopathic ingredients. However, the way my

>> LLMD taught me to take the tincture was typical of how you would handle a

>> homeopathic medicine. In addition to shaking the bottle, you need to hit it

>> on the bottom at least six times. That, I believe, is standard handling for

>> liquid homeopathic meds. You also can only take it in water and cannot take

>> any food or drink [other than water] 20 minutes before and 20 minutes after

>> you take A-BART.

>>

>> Kathleen

>> Eureka CA

>>

>> Are these homeopathic tinctures?

>>

>

March 2, 2011

Tinctures and homeopathic remedies are two very different preparations, although

they often (though not always) start with similar ingredients.

Tinctures are created by putting a lot of the mashed or macerated herb in a jar,

and covering the mess with alcohol or oil. You leave it (usually) for a period

of days or weeks, gently shaking it daily to mix it up. (Wildcrafters do it for

2-4 weeks, usually according to the moon cycle.) This soaks out the active

ingredients, which are transferred to the alcohol or oil -- which, in turn,

preserves them. (If you've ever made rosemary vinegar or garlic-flavored oil in

your kitchen, the process is much the same.) Tinctures have been considered

solid medicine for a very long time: as recently as 1927, over two-thirds of the

US Pharmacopia (the official government book on useful medicines) was made up of

herbal preparations, mostly tinctures. Many of these are still in daily use.

Homeopathic remedies start with a process that's like tincturing -- but then

they're " potentiated " , which is to say, cut with 10% solution to 90% water, then

shaken several thousand times (to release their energies), then cut with water

again, and shaken again, and so on. Homopathic practitioners believe that the

more often you repeat this dilution/percussion cycle, the more potent the remedy

is. One that's diluted six times is considered less potent than one that's been

cut 30 times. Of course, by the time you've diluted the original tincture a few

dozen times, it's quite likely that there's not a single molecule of it left. No

matter: in homeopathy, it's thought that there's some kind of energetic aura

that's being released, and that's what matters.

Homeopathy is complicated for me. The remedy-making method doesn't pass the

scientific smell test (my bar on this is pretty high, as long-time members

know); yet the basic principles -- that a little of what made you sick can also

make you well -- are sound enough to be the basis of both vaccination and

allergy treatment as we currently know them. And I had a daughter whose life was

in danger, and who made an immediate recovery with homeopathy, so I can't refute

what I saw with my own eyes. So all I can say is: if it doesn't make sense for

you, go with that. If it does, well -- nothing to lose but a few bucks.

Most tinctures are strong enough that a little juice isn't going to mess them

up, though I'd be careful with highly acidic juices like cranberry or citrus.

Homeopathic remedies are typically taken with nothing or water, because they're

so much more fragile (if, in fact, there's any real curative property to them at

all).

Sara

On Mar 1, 2011, at 5:23 08PM, le Handy wrote:

> i am not on these right now but i do take tinctures such as teasel and

> smilax and a different lyme formula all given to my by my naturopathic llmd

> and i take them all with a little juice. have i been doing it wrong by not

> using only water for these 2 years?

>

> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:51 PM, KP <kmpelley@...> wrote: