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I am a late stage Lymeee but three of my family members had tick bites and

produced the EM bulleye rash with in hours to days..They were prescribed the

same dose of doxy as your doc recommended. They have to Lyme symptoms THANK GOD~

My first signs were stiff neck then joint pains...along with flulike symptoms

and intense fatigue...that was fall2008....I am now on a two yr triple abx mega

dose plan with herbs and all kinds of potions..I hope your daughter is ok...Dar

From: oakridge@...

Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:03:55 -0800

Subject: [ ] Help -

My daughter had a tick embedded in her shoulder on Saturday. I suggested

she see a doctor and ask for antibiotics as a precautionary measure. She had to

wait until today to see a doctor. The doctor prescribed 100 mg of doxicilin

twice a day (28 pills total). I don't believe this is a proper dose. Does

anyone have any suggestions. Her neck is stiff and her entire shoulder hurts

from the bite. The doctor started telling her how to stretch her neck when she

sleeps in a bad position.

What does one do in a situation like this. Please. I don't want her to be

another lyme victim.

[ ] Tooth issues

Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for pain in

one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back of my

tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has been

seen

December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and in

severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe tooth

pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started after

the

tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still have no

relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the joint

pain.

I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem next

week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

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you get into a LLMD..ASAP>>I am under the impression 400 doxy a day..but you

need to consult an expert right away....your doc has no clue of the seriousness

of lyme

From: oakridge@...

Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:03:55 -0800

Subject: [ ] Help -

My daughter had a tick embedded in her shoulder on Saturday. I suggested she see

a doctor and ask for antibiotics as a precautionary measure. She had to wait

until today to see a doctor. The doctor prescribed 100 mg of doxicilin twice a

day (28 pills total). I don't believe this is a proper dose. Does anyone have

any suggestions. Her neck is stiff and her entire shoulder hurts from the bite.

The doctor started telling her how to stretch her neck when she sleeps in a bad

position.

What does one do in a situation like this. Please. I don't want her to be

another lyme victim.

[ ] Tooth issues

Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for pain in

one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back of my

tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has been seen

December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and in

severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe tooth

pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started after the

tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still have no

relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the joint pain.

I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem next

week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

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If she were diagnosed with Lyme, I'd agree, but remember, this is

*prophylactic*. I don't know if the dose is high enough; I do think the

length of time is probably enough.

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:50 PM, K M <leemo555@...> wrote:

>

> you get into a LLMD..ASAP>>I am under the impression 400 doxy a day..but

> you need to consult an expert right away....your doc has no clue of the

> seriousness of lyme

>

>

>

>

> From: oakridge@...

> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:03:55 -0800

> Subject: [ ] Help -

>

>

>

>

>

>

> My daughter had a tick embedded in her shoulder on Saturday. I suggested

> she see a doctor and ask for antibiotics as a precautionary measure. She had

> to wait until today to see a doctor. The doctor prescribed 100 mg of

> doxicilin twice a day (28 pills total). I don't believe this is a proper

> dose. Does anyone have any suggestions. Her neck is stiff and her entire

> shoulder hurts from the bite. The doctor started telling her how to stretch

> her neck when she sleeps in a bad position.

>

> What does one do in a situation like this. Please. I don't want her to be

> another lyme victim.

>

> [ ] Tooth issues

>

> Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for pain

> in

> one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back of

> my

> tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has been

> seen

>

> December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and in

> severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

> tooth

> pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started after

> the

> tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still have

> no

> relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the joint

> pain.

>

> I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem next

> week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

>

>

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100mg Doxycycline twice a day for acute Lyme is the standard recommendation. An

MD who is not Lyme Literate probably won't prescribe more than 2 weeks, but from

my experience that isn't always enough time. The second time I had acute Lyme

(with EM rash) I got only 2 weeks. The first time I got 3 weeks (I think

because the rash was larger). Anyway I ended up with chronic Lyme which took 6

years to diagnose. All my symptoms went away with each treatment. It took 1

1/2 years and then I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I never felt 100% after

that.

How old is your daughter? Doxycycline is not used with children. They are

usually given Amoxicillin.

The good news is if she's been infected. It's in an early and very treatable

stage.

Best wishes,

Kim

[ ] Help -

>

>

>

>

>

>

> My daughter had a tick embedded in her shoulder on Saturday. I suggested

> she see a doctor and ask for antibiotics as a precautionary measure. She had

> to wait until today to see a doctor. The doctor prescribed 100 mg of

> doxicilin twice a day (28 pills total). I don't believe this is a proper

> dose. Does anyone have any suggestions. Her neck is stiff and her entire

> shoulder hurts from the bite. The doctor started telling her how to stretch

> her neck when she sleeps in a bad position.

>

> What does one do in a situation like this. Please. I don't want her to be

> another lyme victim.

>

> [ ] Tooth issues

>

> Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for pain

> in

> one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back of

> my

> tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has been

> seen

>

> December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and in

> severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

> tooth

> pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started after

> the

> tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still have

> no

> relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the joint

> pain.

>

> I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem next

> week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

>

>

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My daughter is 40. I want to make sure that it is treated now and not after

she's down the horrible road of chronic lyme, which I've been on for 20 years.

[ ] Tooth issues

>

> Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for pain

> in

> one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back of

> my

> tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has been

> seen

>

> December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and in

> severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

> tooth

> pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started after

> the

> tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still have

> no

> relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the joint

> pain.

>

> I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem next

> week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

>

>

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How long has she had lyme - how did she find out?

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From: Bonnie and Dennis White <oakridge@...>

Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 8:53:41 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Help -

 

My daughter is 40. I want to make sure that it is treated now and not after

she's down the horrible road of chronic lyme, which I've been on for 20 years.

[ ] Tooth issues

>

> Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for pain

> in

> one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back of

> my

> tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has been

> seen

>

> December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and in

> severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

> tooth

> pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started after

> the

> tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still have

> no

> relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the joint

> pain.

>

> I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem next

> week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

>

>

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Kim...I'm taking 400 mg Doxy, 1200 mg omnicef (cefdinir) and 200 mg plaquenil

DAILY...I have developed HYPOthyroidism and taking 60 mg

Armour thyroid daily...addon Cortsol manager for high cortisol level and hormone

replacement too..Ill be 50 in a few weeks...Happy bday to me...RIIiiiiight~I was

wondering how this treatment compares to others. Im 5'3 " @ 155lbs...fyi..Dar

From: KTOvrutsky@...

Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:29:01 -0500

Subject: Re: [ ] Help -

100mg Doxycycline twice a day for acute Lyme is the standard

recommendation. An MD who is not Lyme Literate probably won't prescribe more

than 2 weeks, but from my experience that isn't always enough time. The second

time I had acute Lyme (with EM rash) I got only 2 weeks. The first time I got 3

weeks (I think because the rash was larger). Anyway I ended up with chronic

Lyme which took 6 years to diagnose. All my symptoms went away with each

treatment. It took 1 1/2 years and then I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I

never felt 100% after that.

How old is your daughter? Doxycycline is not used with children. They are

usually given Amoxicillin.

The good news is if she's been infected. It's in an early and very treatable

stage.

Best wishes,

Kim

[ ] Help -

>

>

>

>

>

>

> My daughter had a tick embedded in her shoulder on Saturday. I suggested

> she see a doctor and ask for antibiotics as a precautionary measure. She had

> to wait until today to see a doctor. The doctor prescribed 100 mg of

> doxicilin twice a day (28 pills total). I don't believe this is a proper

> dose. Does anyone have any suggestions. Her neck is stiff and her entire

> shoulder hurts from the bite. The doctor started telling her how to stretch

> her neck when she sleeps in a bad position.

>

> What does one do in a situation like this. Please. I don't want her to be

> another lyme victim.

>

> [ ] Tooth issues

>

> Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for pain

> in

> one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back of

> my

> tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has been

> seen

>

> December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and in

> severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

> tooth

> pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started after

> the

> tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still have

> no

> relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the joint

> pain.

>

> I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem next

> week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

>

>

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Please see a LLMD DR quickly as they will take this seriously! I was actually

diagnosed by my Naturalpathic Dr. after 8 years of suffering. No mainstream

medical dr. even considered Lyme. If you can't find a LLMD, maybe look into

seeing a Naturalpathic, they may be able to refer you to a LLMD. Hope this

helps, praying for daughter. I hate to think of anyone else suffering with this

horrible disease.

(notlovinlyme@...)

>

> My daughter had a tick embedded in her shoulder on Saturday. I suggested she

see a doctor and ask for antibiotics as a precautionary measure. She had to

wait until today to see a doctor. The doctor prescribed 100 mg of doxicilin

twice a day (28 pills total). I don't believe this is a proper dose. Does

anyone have any suggestions. Her neck is stiff and her entire shoulder hurts

from the bite. The doctor started telling her how to stretch her neck when she

sleeps in a bad position.

>

> What does one do in a situation like this. Please. I don't want her to be

another lyme victim.

>

>

>

>

> [ ] Tooth issues

>

>

> Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for pain

in

> one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back of

my

> tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has been

seen

>

> December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and in

> severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

tooth

> pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started after

the

> tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still have

no

> relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the joint

pain.

>

> I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem next

> week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

>

>

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Your doctor is doing the right thing as best we've heard it - for now. The rule

of thumb is that antibiotics taken two or three times a day for about two weeks

should kill the Lyme bug IF TAKEN WITHIN ABOUT TWO WEEKS OF INFECTION. (The

co-infections may be trickier.)

If taken more than two weeks after infection, things get more risky.

I would keep your doctor advised of her symptoms and level of pain every three

days or so. You should keep a diary yourself of her symptoms and pain level.

I hope you kept the tick (in a plastic container) - it can be diagnosed.

If the occurrence of symptoms persists for a month, definitely keep your doctor

informed and ask his/her opinion about your consulting an LLMD. You may not

need an LLMD - but you certainly don't want her developing Chronic Lyme Disease.

>

> My daughter had a tick embedded in her shoulder on Saturday. I suggested she

see a doctor and ask for antibiotics as a precautionary measure. She had to

wait until today to see a doctor. The doctor prescribed 100 mg of doxicilin

twice a day (28 pills total). I don't believe this is a proper dose. Does

anyone have any suggestions. Her neck is stiff and her entire shoulder hurts

from the bite. The doctor started telling her how to stretch her neck when she

sleeps in a bad position.

>

> What does one do in a situation like this. Please. I don't want her to be

another lyme victim.

>

>

>

>

> [ ] Tooth issues

>

>

> Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for pain

in

> one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back of

my

> tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has been

seen

>

> December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and in

> severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

tooth

> pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started after

the

> tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still have

no

> relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the joint

pain.

>

> I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem next

> week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

>

>

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Man are u wrong. My LLMD keeps me on 4 wks of doxy and sometimes 6 wks to get

rid of infection.

[ ] Tooth issues

>

>

> Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for pain

in

> one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back of

my

> tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has been

seen

>

> December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and in

> severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

tooth

> pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started after

the

> tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still have

no

> relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the joint

pain.

>

> I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem next

> week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

>

>

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I think Steve's advice is good. Also, the stiffness etc is probably not

from lyme disease per se -- I don't think anyone develops lyme symptoms that

quickly (i.e. within 24 hours). I've been bitten by ticks and felt nothing;

however, when my children have been bitten they also have had pain. My

oldest had shoulder pain when he was bitten under his arm, and he did not

develop lyme disease (and he wasn't even on preventative antibiotics).

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:04 PM, SteveH <steveh_19@...> wrote:

>

>

> Your doctor is doing the right thing as best we've heard it - for now. The

> rule of thumb is that antibiotics taken two or three times a day for about

> two weeks should kill the Lyme bug IF TAKEN WITHIN ABOUT TWO WEEKS OF

> INFECTION. (The co-infections may be trickier.)

>

> If taken more than two weeks after infection, things get more risky.

>

> I would keep your doctor advised of her symptoms and level of pain every

> three days or so. You should keep a diary yourself of her symptoms and pain

> level.

>

> I hope you kept the tick (in a plastic container) - it can be diagnosed.

>

> If the occurrence of symptoms persists for a month, definitely keep your

> doctor informed and ask his/her opinion about your consulting an LLMD. You

> may not need an LLMD - but you certainly don't want her developing Chronic

> Lyme Disease.

>

>

> >

> > My daughter had a tick embedded in her shoulder on Saturday. I suggested

> she see a doctor and ask for antibiotics as a precautionary measure. She had

> to wait until today to see a doctor. The doctor prescribed 100 mg of

> doxicilin twice a day (28 pills total). I don't believe this is a proper

> dose. Does anyone have any suggestions. Her neck is stiff and her entire

> shoulder hurts from the bite. The doctor started telling her how to stretch

> her neck when she sleeps in a bad position.

> >

> > What does one do in a situation like this. Please. I don't want her to be

> another lyme victim.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [ ] Tooth issues

> >

> >

> > Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for

> pain in

> > one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back

> of my

> > tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has

> been seen

> >

> > December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and

> in

> > severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

> tooth

> > pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started

> after the

> > tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still

> have no

> > relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the

> joint pain.

> >

> > I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem

> next

> > week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

> >

> >

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, you've missed that this doxycyline is because she was bitten by a

tick -- it is to *prevent* lyme disease. She has not been diagnosed with

lyme disease. If she had been then that's a completely different story and

she'd need at least 6 weeks and probably more of the doxycycline. But this

is ONLY because she was bitten by a tick. Actually, I think 14 days of

prophylactic doxy is at the longer end of treatment time.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, fsmfarms <fsmfarms@...> wrote:

>

>

> Man are u wrong. My LLMD keeps me on 4 wks of doxy and sometimes 6 wks to

> get rid of infection.

>

>

> [ ] Tooth issues

> >

> >

> > Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for

> pain in

> > one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back

> of my

> > tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has

> been seen

> >

> > December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and

> in

> > severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

> tooth

> > pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started

> after the

> > tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still

> have no

> > relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the

> joint pain.

> >

> > I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem

> next

> > week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

> >

> >

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My husband was bit by a tick, found it within a few hours (he had been raking)

and took 100 mg 2x/day for 2 weeks preventatively. Within 2 months, he was very

sick, and tested positive for lyme. Once he saw an LLMD, he was told that 6

weeks of abx after a tick bite is what he recommends.

> > >

> > > My daughter had a tick embedded in her shoulder on Saturday. I suggested

> > she see a doctor and ask for antibiotics as a precautionary measure. She had

> > to wait until today to see a doctor. The doctor prescribed 100 mg of

> > doxicilin twice a day (28 pills total). I don't believe this is a proper

> > dose. Does anyone have any suggestions. Her neck is stiff and her entire

> > shoulder hurts from the bite. The doctor started telling her how to stretch

> > her neck when she sleeps in a bad position.

> > >

> > > What does one do in a situation like this. Please. I don't want her to be

> > another lyme victim.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [ ] Tooth issues

> > >

> > >

> > > Before I went to the DR for pain in joints, I went to the dentist for

> > pain in

> > > one of my teeth. As he proceeded to drill the existing filling the back

> > of my

> > > tooth cracked off, he then informed me I needed a root canal. This has

> > been seen

> > >

> > > December of last year. The following week I was diagnosed with lymes and

> > in

> > > severe pain , the tooth has still not been sealed and I am having severe

> > tooth

> > > pain in that tooth. If I think about it the joint pain really started

> > after the

> > > tooth was worked on. Even being on dyciclymine for 12 days now I still

> > have no

> > > relief in the tooth. Finally the MD gave me Relifin and it stops the

> > joint pain.

> > >

> > > I will be going back to the dentist and addressing this tooth problem

> > next

> > > week. I pray I don;t loose my tooth.

> > >

> > >

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