Re: Re: anti-candida diet to kill lymes bacteria

March 17, 2011

can you send me Bees website...i very ill with lyme but i believe what you

are saying...makes so much sense..thank u i will talk to you more later pretty

sick right now..mornings are the worst for me...as far as my horrid

symptoms...im also in a very verbally and mentally abusive marriage..its been so

hard on me and my boy...thanks you your help...love can you tell me

your story..

Subject: [ ] Re: anti-candida diet to kill lymes bacteria

Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 5:46 PM

thank-you so much for responding. I was beginning to wonder if any-one would. I

believe diet plays a major part in all illnesses. The immune system has to be

weakened by something for an illness, even like Lymes, to cause major issues. I

guess what causes the weakened immune system is individual to each person, but I

do know diet plays a major part. I thought I was eating healthy, but something

this past fall caused me to feel really sick. It affected my muscles with a

strange weakness that left me feeling fluish. My alternative care doctor , who

is Lyme literate, believed I had Lymes, even though I never saw a tick bite and

never had a postitive test. I have through the years had fatigue, foggy

thinking, and the symptoms you described. It wasn't until I found bee's website

that I realized how similar candida and lymes symptoms are. My doctor gave me

very strong herbs that he said would cause die=off with any bacteria or fungi.

They must have worked for

immediately I began having die-off symptoms.When reading bee's website I

realized candida could be being fed by even the raw dairy I had been eating and

properly prepared grains. I guess I then began to wonder about the candida Lymes

connection. If we have candida, very common in about 80% of people today, then

our immune system also suffers, and Lymes can take hold of us, along with other

things. I do know that for me ,giving up even natural sugars, along with dairy

and grains have caused me to have die-off and I am still there, but I do know

that I will get better. God designed our bodies to heal given the proper

nutrients and supplements. Glad to hear you are feeling so much better. Just out

of curiosity, why did you not go with Bee's whole approach? I have had some

negative thoughts about some of the things she believes, but her success stories

seem so positive.

> Hi Just wanted to reply and say that yes, diet / lifestyle changes and

supplements have absolutely helped, if not eradicated my Lyme symptoms! I don't

follow Bee's exact candida diet but since reading her website a few months ago I

have followed the " common sense " approach of cutting out coffee, refined sugar,

any foods with chemicals (at least as much as possible) and eating far more

vegetables and whole grains and my symptoms have nearly gone! The sugar was the

most important thing to cut out, and I start to feel worse again if I start

eating it! The other important thing is breathing more deeply and slowly (this

almost completely eradicated my lifelong muscle pain- I wish I had developed

some more sense earlier!). Basically, if you create a less toxic environment for

the bacteria and preserve as many nutrients as you can instead of destroying

them with much of the unhealthy food we eat, the bacteria cannot thrive, and

your immune system is

strengthened! There is no treatment as effective as the immune system, which

after all is designed to fight anything, as long as we keep it in good order! I

am strongly against long term drugs due to their toxicity and the fact that in

99% of cases that I have heard about, they just make things worse! I would love

to write a longer post about my improvements on Lyme Aid or Eurolyme but have

got some aggressive / abusive responses in the past from people who are not able

to tolerate another point of view, so I try to stay away from support groups

now. Anyway, I believe we are all responsible for our own health and we can keep

Lyme bacteria under control, just like we do with all the other bacteria we are

carrying around all the time.. Just to be clear, this is is not about finding a

" cure " , as bacteria cannot be completely eradicated, just controlled so that it

does not affect us badly! I may not have been suffering from the very worst case

of Lyme, but

I went from completely exhausted, head fuzzy, bad concentration and memory,

extremely painful muscles and generally feeling awful all the time, to 99%

normal in 3 months, from following some basic logic with diet and lifestyle! I

hope that has helped..? Best wishes and good luck!

March 22, 2011

thank u for your kind words and help...you are so right..but the bad

thing is theres no one i can change the situation...i have no were to go..my

parents are elderly and its to hard on them..and the rest of my family...sisters

and bother wont help me..im told them how serious it is...and how sick i am and

they just ignore me..they have even called in years to check on me..my husband

will never believe i have lyme...its a battle i will be fighting on my own...hes

just evil and doesnt care at all about me...hes trying to make things

miserable...i already live in misery every minute of every day...i feel like

this lyme is killing me..it hurts me so much to know he doesnt even care at

all...i tried to show him some sights on the internet last night and nothing

mattered to him...he was just cold and heartless..i just gotta ignore him its

all i can do...i did nothing to deserve this treatment..just got bit by a

tick...and now my life is misery..and

my husband is gonna take me down the rest of the way and i have no one to help

or stop it from happening..and i think my son has lyme to ...i wanna get him

checked but my husband said he would take me to court if i take our son to any

of my lyme quacks..its misery...and i dont know what to do or where to

turn...ive reached out to family, churchs with no help...say a prayer for us

ok...thank u for caring..im having so many stomach problems i cant tell if its

the lyme or stress..i homeschool my son and some days its so hard...i struggle

cause im so sick..but cant put him in school cause schools are bad here...hes

the only one who has helped me make it thru this horrible time with lyme...hes

prayed for me..and been there when no one else was...thank u for

listening...will talk more later...feel real nauseas...love cynthia

Subject: [ ] Re: anti-candida diet to kill lymes bacteria

Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 4:48 PM

Hi ! I just wanted to add to Chris's response about Bee's website-

the diet is great and has helped lots of people, but stress is really the

biggest cause of the immune system weakening, so no amount of herbs, supplements

or diet changes will help as much as trying to eliminate the stressful situation

you are in. Stress also raises your acidity levels, another thing that bacteria

thrives on. Is there any way you could have a trial seperation and stay with

family for a while or anything that gives you a chance to recuperate..? That, as

well as changing your diet and taking extra supplements could make a big

difference!

One other thing, apparently 95% of us do not breathe properly (even children

by the age of 6 are often already shallow breathing due to stress) so try

taking several slow, relaxed, deep breaths in (through your nose) and out. My

favourite breathing exercise when I've been in severe pain, or very stressed, is

taking one long breath in to one count, and then very slowly out to 5. Make sure

you breathe out completely, as again, most people never do, causing stale air to

build up. Repeat a minimum of 5 times. You would be surprised how much a simple

thing like that can help, as many of us only ever take short, shallow breaths

which causes you to feel very tired and makes your muscles seize up.

I wish you the best of luck and do try to at least take a break, if you can't

get away from your home situation altogether, and see if the rest does you (and

maybe all of you) good! Abusive relationships are usually something that you

look back on in the future and can try to understand, but it's very important to

distance yourself to get a new perspective, and to give you a rest, whenever you

can! Good luck again!

March 24, 2011

This is entirely possible. Those of you who are familiar with methylation theory

know that, according to that theory, our symptoms are caused because the

infection triggers a breakdown in a key biochemical pathway. The specifics of

that breakdown -- and hence the specifics of our symptoms -- are determined by

our own individual genetics. Some of us are more genetically programmed for

methylation breakdown than others, which may be why some of us get sicker than

others.

In my case, my genetic peculiarities made me *very* sick when I went on Salt/C.

It basically sent me into low-grade congestive heart failure (I ended up in the

ER twice), because the genes governing some key adrenal functions created

biochemical misfirings in how my heart worked. And that created a cascade effect

that caused a lot of other problems as well. When I got off Salt/C, it took me

about eight months to recover from the damage done.

This protocol is *not* for everybody. If it's making you weak -- and

particularly if you're having specific CHF symptoms -- you probably need to get

off of it, if only for a few months to see if you start feeling better.

Sara

On Mar 23, 2011, at 6:48 05PM, wrote:

> Hi , I just wanted to say, I think you said you are on the salt /

vitamin C diet..? Have you thought that maybe the extreme amounts of salt could

be causing you to feel very sick? Excess salt can damage / destroy your liver

and kidneys, both of which will cause nausea... Even small amounts of excess

salt can make you ill- I had too much salt last night and felt terrible, and was

still feeling sick when I woke up this morning! I would really warn you against

too much salt, garlic etc, as these things can be very harmful if taken in

excess! It is all very well to want to kill the Lyme bacteria, but you may be

doing yourself some serious harm in other ways!

> It is not possible to kill all the Lyme bacteria you have (if you definitely

do have it), so the only real way to feel better seems to be to control it, just

like we do with all the bacteria we are carrying around. I always feel worse if

I start doing anything extreme, ie taking too many supplements, but fine if I

stick to a sensible diet of plenty of vegetables, no refined sugar / flour etc,

and try to reduce stress and sleep properly (not easy!!)

> I think there must be a way our of your home situation somehow- Isn't there

an organization in your area that can help you? Make as many enquiries as

possible and I'm sure there will be help out there as there are so many people

in your situation and there are people whose job it is to help! Maybe even your

local doctor can suggest something..? Don't focus just on the Lyme, focus on

yourself and getting into a healthier situation where you can stop feeling so

stressed and give your system a chance to recover! In the meantime, try to be as

calm and rational as you can (do the deep breathing exercises I suggested!) as

your husband may be feeling out of his depth and not know how to relate to what

you are going through, and if you can explain it to him in a calm and detached

way he may be more inclined to listen and support you! Best wishes and good luck

again

March 25, 2011

ive tried for years to explain it to him and hes evil...makes me suffer and

doesnt even show any remorse at all..hes horrible...ive had to call police on

him before...restraining order...and he was even madder after that..its a bad

situation...and being this sick its hard for me to fight ive had problems thru

the years with him..even when i didnt have this horrible debilitating lyme

disease...most days i truly feel im dying...im on the waiting list to see Dr.

jemsek in Washington...but i dont know how i will get the money...we are just a

few months away from loosing our house...cause he hasnt worked in almost 2

years..cause he is angry with me..says im making this all up and im not

sick...its so hard to deal with the horrific symptoms and him too...thanks for

all the help here....cynthia